This show, which pertains to issues about the criteria reasonable people use to determine the truth about UFOs, extraterrestrials and real contactees, as well as MUFON and other elements of the UFOCI, was actually recorded several weeks ago, so many of you may already know about the information in it. There will be an update on all of this coming fairly soon…with some further conclusions about MUFON and its investigation of – and its agenda pertaining to – the Billy Meier UFO case.
P.S. Speaking of “aliens”, it seems that new research confirms what Meier was told by Ptaah – nine years ago – about the benefits of walking as fulfilling the essential human needs for exercise and being quite sufficient.
Gorge Knapp had a couple of guest on c2c last night discussing the UFO coverup by thje FBI and CIA with Bruce macabee and a reporter from Sarasota,Fla who likes to include UFOs in his reports. I didn`t bother to listen to Knapp knowing that he ruffled MH`s feathers besides I thought it would just be another one of those lights in the sky thing since Noory sometimes brings Peter Davenport on to report guess what,more lights in the sky! After all we all by now know the REAL truth behind all those UFO reports thanks to our friend Billy and the Plejarens! Salome.
Yes, that is true and that is why Michael and the Billy Meier case are kept out of the UFO industry as much as possible. They bring him in from time to time, when it’s convenient. When he talks about certain subjects though, suddenly “the music” starts and they have to go into a commercial break or there are “technical problems” or the connection is just gone completely. Jimmy Church for example didn’t call him back after he had lost connection several times and afterwards suggested that Michael didn’t want to come back on, because he wanted to dodge questions or something, very fishy. Shortly after that Church commented on youtube:
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Horn got turned down because his ‘material’ is way way way too far out there (real or fake) and even believers have problems with the case – so the hard truth is this case would only hurt the whole disclosure movement. Stephen Bassett is just trying to get the basics ‘out in the open’ – Step 1 – They are real and let’s all agree on that – including the govt,.
Who or what they are/why they are here..etc all that comes later but you have to have mass acknowledgment first.
And Jimmy.. you are one super nice guy. Can’t say I would have been as cordial.
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And Jimmy.. it’s very clear.. there are other prophets.ZZ Top.. HELLO.
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I was as cordial as I could be…I was one step away from throwing a computer through the studio glass…as for ZZ…I have an autographed copy of Deguello around here somewhere…all the best, Iron!!!
The last comment is from Jimmy Church himself. “I was as cordial as I could be…I was one step away from throwing a computer through the studio glass.” That happens to people who are not ready for the truth when confronted with it. And it’s pretty funny that the same guy argued on the show, that it wouldn’t be a problem for people if ETs landed on the White House lawn. He would be one of the first to shit his pants, I guarantee you that. 😉
For most of these people, apparently Church included, this is mere entertainment, distraction, diversion. They are part of that group that truly doesn’t want to find what they say they’re looking for. They couldn’t handle the truth and, as you suggest, would need to have industrial strength diapers on should they be confronted by such encounters.
You are absolutely correct, Michael.
Hi Michael, in regards to the Meier information about exercise. Does that mean that lifting weights is also bad for the body? I am not a body builder but I do about 20 minutes of weight training. I feel good and loose weight with this style of exercise. Supposedly there’s alot of scientific evidence that lifting weights helps keep the body younger and healthy. To restate my question, is lifting weights good or harmful in your opinion, Michael?
I think that Ptaah is speaking about any kind of extreme or excessive exercise/sports, which could mean that any form of exercise that isn’t extreme and excessive, that respects the constitution and structure of the body, etc., isn’t intrinsically harmful.
Could you dumb down the generalisation and get to the specifics please Michael
Thanks
This Meier explanation about human beings without work can BEAM more light on this subject of exercise and the dangers of idleness…http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1247DEB6ACB21BCA.
Hi David,
I am into exercise and I study the spiritual teaching. I think it is an individual thing. MH puts it nicely, “…that any form of exercise that isn’t extreme and excessive, that respects the constitution and structure of the body, etc., isn’t intrinsically harmful.” So normal weight training might fall into this category. Something interesting, the Ps recommend walking for the human being because they do not recommend running for exercise. It is hard on the knees for one thing. Does this mean that chasing a frisbee in the park, for example, is now dangerous to the human being? No I don’t think so. I think Ptaah is talking about extremes. Remember the goal of the human being is to be equalised or balanced. The excessive jogger might be pounding miles and miles on pavement, bringing shock to the skeletal and joint structure; whereas a human running, in short to medium sprints, on a soft grassy field would not be producing the same harm, for example. The goal is to be self aware and self responsible.
Thank you MH for an informative talk. I have always valued your opinion on matters UFO because of your extensive experience, involvement, research. (You know what you are talking about, and also know what others are talking about. You’ve been to their rubber-chicken get-togethers, you’ve been a featured guest. I think I’ve lost count of the presentations and interviews I’ve seen you do. That credibility is also a preponderance of the evidence of the Meier case, although you constantly challenge people to look into the case and decide for themselves.
In this crazy world today we even choose our sources for what passes as “news.” We can go to different networks / platforms and find the slanted version of reality that suits the bent of our nature (or fancy). So it is no surprise that people choose their UFO cases based on the level of titillation they want.
It is often been suggested by visitors to this blog that people simply don’t want to be bothered with the truth. Especially if it might be challenging to their world view. (Most are stuck on one or two news channels that tell them what they expect to hear.)
So it may be that ‘most people are stuck on stupid.’
What is frustrating is that so few can SEE and HEAR the integrity of a Wendell’s Stevens or Michael Horn. To me that reveals an absence of integrity in them, or just plain laziness. And did I mention stuck on stupid and pretty apt to stay that way?
Paul, I don`t watch the news on tv and now I don`t even bother to read the news on the internet unless there is a specific cause my other organization is protesting etc. As I read years ago on Planet Erra the people there avoid any and all negativity due to the fact that the peple on Erra are extremely spiritual people. They probably do quite abit of meditiating to clear there minds of any thing that is negative sinister and hurtful. I may be wrong about this but from what I read that is why they are so way above us lowly primitive humans who are still in the youngster adolesant stage of evolution. Most of the people of Earth don`t know how to think and behave morally and ethically,that is why we still have wars, crimes, diseases,racism etc,etc,etc.
Michael,
When are you going to ditch that bland white apartment background and do your shows inside a beamship? I would imagine that the TV screens might provide some nice flashing lights for those with limited attention spans.
On a serious note, I think you might be mistaken about there not being any toys in the 1970s that looked like the laser pistol. Here is an eBay auction for a ray gun toy made in the ’71 that could be a model for the laser pistol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-KO-FRICTION-SPARKING-JUNIOR-JET-RAY-SPACE-GUN-MADE-IN-JAPAN-/201152753121?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed5a36de1 Notice the red tip. This red tip apparently was used quite a lot in these vintage ray gun toys. Please I am not saying that that Billy Meier’s laser gun photo is a fake; but rather there are, strangely, many examples of toy ray guns from the 1970s that have the same red tip as the Meier pistol.
The Poster Formerly Known by Many Names,
I’d be glad to relocate to a more hi-tech environment but it hasn’t been within my budget to do so…or my evolutionary compatibility with those who possess the ideal facilities.
As far as the laser gun goes, I think we’ve long acknowledged the close-but-no-cigar nature of the existing toys. Every one that we’ve found had something about it that didn’t match the Meier/Alena laser gun.
It was a another case of the devil being in the details, as well as “homework” for earthlings who might otherwise settle for the similarities and overlook the distinct differences. It could remind one of the “garbage can lid” theory about the WCUFO which, upon careful examination, renders the theory itself to the garbage can.
“…close-but-no-cigar nature of the existing toys…”
This is NOT true. These ’70s Japanese made ray guns could easily be mocked up, with paint and a few extras, to look like the Meier laser pistol. I find it very interesting that the Meier pistol has this same red tip as MANY of the ray gun toys of that era. The shape of these toy guns are also similar to the Meier pistol. This has to be the work of the Bawwi or even impulses.
Btw – my name has never changed. It is still Anthony. What has changed is my user name. There is no rule that an internet user name is to be a birth name. I am creative, ya see.
“Could be”, “similar”, “has to be”…ah, the joys of speculation.
You are missing the point. Why all the similar ray gun toys from the ’70s with red, tapered barrels? Why red? Don’t you at least find this interesting?
I forgot, Figu does NOT encourage “speculation.” You people are a bunch of librarians for Billy Meier… getting it “word for word.”
Regarding the gun; have you ever seen higher res images of it? There seems to be a fair bit of machined detail on it rather than smoother moulded plastic detail that toys of the 1970’s would have. The distance from the grip to the trigger would surely be too far for a childs hand.
Hi Stephen,
You bring up some great points. But even the ’70s toy ray guns would have to be modified. I have thought about buying one of these ray guns and then hacking it into an Alena laser pistol. Here is how I would do it. I would cut the red, tapered barrel off the toy. And extend the barrel with PVC pipe. And use the original toy body. I would find grips from a handgun to extend the reach for an adult. I would use wood for the long curved guard that extends from the barrel to the grips. Paint everything a nice metallic silver. And then put in the finishing details like the yellow cylinder on top.
Please people, I am not doing this to try and prove that the Meier laser pistol is a toy ray gun. All I am saying is that it is incorrect for Figu people to say that no toys exist that could account for the Alena laser gun. Just like the beamships, models COULD have been used. Just like a model laser gun is NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION.
Oh of course. I agree absolutely. All of the ‘physical’ evidence is just here to push us gently in the right direction. Which is why, after hundreds of years of Earth humans arguing, the ultimate proof for all will come from the Spiritual teachings themselves. The ultimate undeniable truth.
Hi Anthony, I actually played with the exact same one that is for sale on e-bay. Go ahead and order it, you will be sorely disappointed. Not even close to Alena’s. You obviously don’t remember how fake the plastic looked back in those days? That’s why police never mistook them for a real gun like they can sometimes do with modern day air guns. And that could also be the reason for the red barrel, so everyone would know it was a toy. Hmm that makes me think that Alena may have wanted people to think it was a toy so it didn’t cause fear because if everyone knew it was a real laser gun, think of the panic that could have caused if someone other than those at SSSC saw it?
Hi Sheila,
I have no intention of buying one. It was just a mental exercise. I have thought about the red barrel too. Perhaps the Bawwi sent impulses to toy manufacturers to familiarize that generation for the Alena gun? Or it could be just as simple as to identify it as a toy, as you say. But western or military guns from the 1970s did not have red (safety) barrels. This feature came later in the 80s. My contention is that the toy barrels are soooo similar to the Alena barrel tip. And the body of the toy gun is the same as the Alena gun if you look closely. This reminds me of the trash can lids that ended up looking similar to the WCUFO. This was because of impulses. This toy similarity can’t be just by chance either. There could be a connection.
Cheers!
If you look closely you’ll see the chambers that they mention on the top pf the gun, not like any toy either.
See:
The Laser Gun Controversy
http://theyfly.com/Special-Evidence-Research.htm
Hi Michael, checked out your link and you theorize that Alena’s two chamber laser gun may have something in common with the COIL developed a year later. Interesting.
I was thinking about this last night and I remember how all those toy guns had lots of screws holding the plastic pieces together. I could almost guarantee that Alena’s gun did not have screws in it like the toy guns.
Michael, I would like to suggest coming up with a FAQ for skeptics. The biggest whiners always ask about the wedding cake ship, the pendulum demonstration flight, the laser gun, why they can’t show their face, why just Billy and not everyone else….etc. We should make these Q&As available to people BEFORE they start looking into the case, and it will save a lot of time and aggravation. I’d be happy to help with it..
~Greg
Greg,
Great idea. It could also be something I could do in one of these presentations.
Michael I just thought of an idea, Have you ever heard about the technology of facial reconition for exploited and missing children? What they do is use a lazer printer to devel ope what the child will look like when they get older are when they are all grown up. You can even use this technology to develop what an adult will look likeas they age and grow older.wouldn`t this lazer technology be used to develop realtime facial discriptions of these Plejarens from Erra and other Plejaren worlds besides Asket and Nara too. That way wecan really see fiorourseves the these people from other worlds really DO EXIST.
Oh please don’t crush my Alena / ray gun fantasy : ) I know its real and the gold jacket would cost a few thousand at that time . NASA used the gold film for protection from ubridaled space irradiation . Alena has an open invite for dinner and a movie here . No way that was a joke or spoof/stunt. Lastly we as hunters use brifh orange as a sign of be careful message firstly so that jive , we enacted in kids toys way way later just because it makes sense. Cap gun? Pow pow , son your gonna get killed ? No ? Dugh , stupid human . Damn that gold jacket was soôo hot . If my gf learned of it she would wan one . Geez, what 3k? Ouch
Oh BTW , gold mylar was not available back then , go ahead and check it and Billy’s purchase of such. Non existing . Duh.
This is a simple and hugely important point.
I still haven’t understood how that “space” suit would stop Van Allen belt radiation. I don’t think just wearing gold is simply going to stop pure radiation and energies bathing the occupants. If gold was all that was needed, why don’t we see gold clad folks dart about Chernobyl or Fukushima with such suits?
My guess is that the ships themselves protect against such things, not the suits.
As Michael wrote, the ships protect against such things. They have “protection shields” against all kinds of stuff and, unlike the shields in Star Trek, everything that hits them, is turned into energy and increases their strength. The space suits are mainly for planetary hazards and also contain communication, teleportation and other devices.
Oh , lets beat the moderm media and address it as they do …..
News flash USA bombs so and so Isis, all quid a ,novastrom , whoever all Nada , korosome , blah blah let’s prop the dollar , so what laser gun? Gold jacket . Maybe Kanye West will wear one . Next……
On demand is the operating normal . Get it? Oh a guy breached the white house and for access into the venue , beat down a guard and looked toward the blah blah room with a knife . Oh an he was a Btw he was a vet with 800 rounds in his car and a six inch knife ? Really ? I call bullshit. Diversion ? Of course dude! Hellllooooo
I have to admit some sort of deja vues whether or not the folly with which the various UFO groups go on about with their “alien” gods is known to them they have done and outdid their ancestors before them. If I may a Jeremaiad as an example of this deja vous:
(Note: I understand some corruption in the text but any reader of the Meier material can spot what was intended to be with the words and should make do as it is unlikely we will get a complete rewrite of the Book of Jeremaiah. It becomes painfully obvious the folly Earth Humanity goes about being blind of the subject matter before them)
http://www.newadvent.com/bible/jer007.htm
4 Trust never in the false assurances that proclaim this place The Lord’s temple, The Lord’s temple, The Lord’s temple.[1] 5 Will you but amend your lives and your likings, giving one man redress against another, 6 not oppressing the alien, the orphan, the widow, nor in these precincts putting innocent men to death, nor courting, to your ruin, the gods of other nations, 7 then indeed I will make my dwelling here among you, in the land which was my gift to your fathers from the beginning to the end of time. 8 You put your trust in flattering hopes, which can nothing avail you; 9 theft, murder, adultery, the false oath, libations to Baal, the courting of alien gods that are no gods of yours, nothing comes amiss, 10 if only you can come and stand in my presence, here in this house, the shrine of my name, and tell yourselves you have made amends for all these your detestable doings! 11 What, does this house, the shrine of such a name, count for no more than a den of thieves, in eyes like yours?
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18 See the children gathering sticks, the father lighting a fire, the mother kneading dough, and all to make cakes for the queen of heaven! See how they offer libation to alien gods, to despite me! 19 Yet not to me they do despite, the Lord says, rather to themselves; every hope of theirs shall fail them.
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24 And did they listen? Hearing they gave me none; their own whim, the false aim of their corrupt hearts was all the rule they lived by; still turned their backs on me, and refused to look my way; 25 so it has been since your fathers left Egypt, so it is yet. No day dawned but I was at work betimes, sending my servants to prophesy to them, 26 but still they would not listen, still hearing they gave me none; stubborn under my yoke, they outdid their own fathers in wickedness.
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And did they listen?!
Outdid is just about right.
Will you MH, be attending the ufo conference in san jose ca this october? I am interested in going. Salome, Robert.
The US is delaying the process of dismantling its old nuclear weapons over the possibility that they might be needed to defend Earth against potentially devastating asteroids, states a government report obtained by The Wall Street Journal.
http://rt.com/usa/192384-usa-nuclear-weapons-asteroids/
Ebola scare in Dallas school
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html
One foreign policy expert, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive subject, said Putin had called Xi to share his concern about the West’s role in Ukraine. Those concerns appear to have filtered down into conversations held over cups of tea in China, according to civil society group members.
“They are very concerned about Color Revolutions, they are very concerned about what is going on in Ukraine,” said the international NGO manager, whose organization is partly financed by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), blamed here for supporting the protests in Kiev’s central Maidan square. “They say, ‘Your money is coming from the same people. Clearly you want to overthrow China.’ ”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-now-admits-it-is-funding-occupy-central-in-hong-kong/5405680
Michael Dose it say how much exercise your suppose to do or suppose to be doing a week…
Armando,
Other than the figures mentioned I haven’t seen anything. I think if one pays attention to their own needs and doesn’t got to extremes in activity or inactivity they will find the right balance.