First it was concern for the environment, then people overbreeding like bunnies, now Pope Frankie has apparently seen the light on…pets:
According to the Pope, the worst problems in the world today are poverty, corruption and human trafficking. He also expressed his astonishment when he read about what people spend money on. “After food, clothing and medicine,” he said, “the fourth item is cosmetics and the fifth is pets. That’s serious.”
In fact, for an “environmental pope,” Francis seems to think that people pay altogether too much attention to pets.
“Care for pets is like programmed love,” he said. “I can program the loving response of a dog or a cat, and I don’t need the experience of a human, reciprocal love.”
The Pope said this kind of trade-off is “worrisome.”
Now if the Pope would just fess up to the whole thing, acknowledge where these “new” ideas are coming from, take off the Halloween costume and simply tell people that they’d be much better off studying the spiritual teaching and Billy Meier’s information, etc., it wouldn’t take another 800 years to turn this mess around.
What`s a BS meter David?
Terry a BS meter is innate knowing when something isn’t right. B=bull and S=s**t, I won’t put the two together, you will get the meaning.
Arie, Peter Gersten who was a layer from new York City now in Arizona used to have a wesite PAG-E-News. Gersten used to write articles about the holographic universe too. Very often he would write a lot of articles explaining that he like Philip K Dick also believed in a holographic universe of which I tried to avoid reading because I don`t think we are living in a holographic universe otherwise how else can we exist as human beings?
Ok, here is one curious fact about Obama that I am sure noboddy here knows about.
There is currently a chandelier, designed by homosexual artists, hanging in Obamas bedroom in the White House. Is this just a coincidence or what?
It may just be a…chandelier.
Agrees with MH. Its just a chandelier.
My opinion is gay people have the exact same rights as anyone else on Earth.
President Obama is in lame duck mode. Any attempts on belittling him is absolutely pointless yammering.
Anywho.. Did anyone hear about the several earth quakes off the West coast ? Looks like Mother Earth is getting tired of being plundered.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
NOTE: This comment was way off topic so I’m exercising my editorial rights. Please let’s stay on topic.
MH
Interesting
http://www.meiersaken.info/black_hole.html
Speaking of Popes, has Meier ever explained the math he did to arrive at the exact date and time Pope Paul VI would die? (CR 108)
Search for it and see what you find.
Nothing. Hence the question. Anyone else?
Moshe,
Perhaps you would consider posting your question in the Questions and Answers section located here:
https://theyflyblog.com/2014/08/25/billy-meier-ufo-case-questions-answers
since the question does not relate to the topic of this thread.
The short answer to your question is NO, as far as I know.
That CR was interesting for me to read Moshe, lotsa rage that was counter act by humor and passed off into the wild blue yonder with warmth and friendliness. I am always open to impulses, however I think it is good that I cannot hear people think because it perhaps would only reinforce my thoughts.
@ Terry, thanks for the note…I on the other hand have been a fan of Philip K Dick’s work….I posit the Universe is like a computer and to meet almost a technology, an organic technology that whilst not holographic per se, maybe more like virtual? When I think of the governing laws of the universe and how they overlap with the spiritual teachings, i can’t help but think of how computers work and the way consciousness could very well be compared to a virtual reality game inside a computer system. Of course it may not matter much really, given that our individuated consciousness seems to be inside the Absolute Absolutum’s Creations Consciousness – from which we cannot get out….so if there is no way to see/confirm what contains what contains us, then to me its moot….albeit very entertaining, stimulating and it ex[ands my imagination in ways that generate joy and help me imagine better realities for the future. My thanks for your comment~!! Cheers, Arie
We are not inside that we are that and a part of that.
The real conspiracy is not the pendulum motion of the ufos, what billy meiers wife said or the similarities to other cults (without closer inspection), the real conspiracy is why the plejaren have lived along side us with their one thousand year lives against our one hundred year lives, but the real real conspiracy part is the length of time that has been going on for.
I’ve said all I need to say here now. Respect to Michael horn for investigating all the extensions and sub-conspiracies and putting up with the front of house position for plenty of decades, too bad you’ll have to develop that great brain of yours yet again in possibly under 50 years, as an ongoing injustice, as I said. Bye
Probably a good question to ask is what sort of help are the alleged PJs and Billy doing with regards to Earth Humanity? While it isn’t exactly obvious but one has to wonder if Billy or the PJs have such a seemingly negative view of Christianity/Vatican and the good old US of A where the effort is being placed. Then one must ponder why exactly there was a plan thousands of years in the making for Billy to discover the Talmud Jmmanuel, translate it, then submit it to the masses when in all probability since Billy was going to teach the spiritual teachings anew anyway like in Kelch der Wahrheit.
WHY BOTHER?
The solution insofar as I can determine is actually to help the most unfortunate, rather than travel thousands of years to complain and do nothing, on this planet and that is why the Talmud Jmmanuel is there to help folks remove their religious delusion and turn the “Christianity” ship around towards what was originally spoken of by the Prophet Jmmanuel (who is alleged to be half-PJ from the Meier material). Much like the heavy criticism of the US of A is there to help the folks from the USA turn their ship around so to speak rather than provide excuses for Russian and China to act belligerent because it’s the US or promote very silly conspiracy theories that have largely came about after the Soviet Union collapsed and after Bob Lazar spoke of Area 51 coming real close to what the PJs have stated since the 70s. That is also why Meier ends up debunking the much ado conspiracy failures that travel to people’s ears as the “truth” when the real truth has been covered up and ignored because the truth is too plain spoken.
Consider, the alleged PJ have been alleged to help the Nutzees develop their own flying saucers. This was changed after it was realized such technologies in the hands of Earth Humanity would cause more ill than gain, but that didn’t stop the Bafath from “aiding” Earth Humanity with their less-than-ideal UFO tech that is prone to crashes, unstable, very vibratory, toxic, and overall meant to fail against the real source of this recent dilemma. Imagine the clean way the PJs would have presented to Earth Humanity, in the days before sending a letter to one nation over all of the nations of the planet, for a real exchange if you can consider such things (more like help as the PJs don’t have much to gain).
There is a lot in the Meier material and one must WONDER why if such a country with a bad reputation as the US goes, why did Meier with the Plejarans bother to have a deal made with the US government? Et cetera.
Though, if the good will was actually noticed to those it was thrust upon, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pope journeyed to Switzerland to see Meier as a possibility of things turning for the better. Frankie is the Pope after all so it is well within his power to make such a journey if some folks will politely see the times they are living in. They don’t have anything to lose!
This is the way it is, earth, the way it is, will be, continue to be, reality.
You still have not conquered what I said though, “the plejaren have lived along side us with their one thousand year lives against our one hundred year lives, but the real conspiracy part is the length of time that has been going on for.”
Until one of you learned people can give a clear answer of why the plejaren helped Einstein leading to the atom bomb, the nazi’s develop an isolated batch of disk devices etc etc etc. YET, did not 130 thousand years ago or whatever the number, correct the genetic problem we still have to this day, until that is answered, and answered properly and clearly, the real conspiracy is finally conquered, then I cannot even spare the time for your many weak conspiracies, until you bump up the gain on the understanding and tackle the real conspiracy as I have explained.
That is interesting. Where can the information be found about Plejaren’s helping Einstein and the Nazi’s you mentioned?
Put some effort into Rob you lazy bugger.
That piece of info is not something I would have forgotten after reading.
A cursory check on Einstein on the various BEAM related sits does not reveal anything new that would support your claim. However, your reasoning and the resulting “blame” to the Plejarens is hardly logical, if it is entirely by inference. Knowledge can always be used for good or its opposite. The impulse(s) sent by the P’s to Einstein, unless you have actual “proof” that it was intended for the construction of the atom bomb, or the degenerative progress of humanity, which is why I asked the question, is akin to saying “person A” handing a hammer to “person B” and that “person B” using it to kill another life form instead of using it for strictly constructive purposes, and then blaming the “person A” for handing the hammer in the first place.
My understanding is that this is the time (Aquarian Age) of technological advancements, and the knowledge about the atoms (and the other natural forces) is inevitable, only a matter of “who” is evolutionarily ready to comprehend and pursue it to its logical conclusion — technological evolution. A reading about Einstein’s personality (biography) would be able to answer the question if he intended to do harm to other human beings with this knowledge.
A side note:
It is interesting how many people like to just tell fellow persons to go “find the answer” themselves, when they themselves are often the ones to instigate a certain “claim” directly or inferentially. Somewhere along the line I think the teaching is misunderstood. Perhaps I did not understand it myself, but let’s recap in brief:
1. One is to help another human being when help is solicited. Specifically in this context, at this place (the blog), this is in the form of knowledge-sharing. Otherwise, it becomes “proselytizing.”
2. It has been said that if one does not have the full-knowledge (and therefore be able to backup the “claim” to it’s logical conclusion), one should not make the claim — or in my case, at least make it clear that is the case during the discussion.
There are other factors, but for now, perhaps others can chip in on their observations.
(the side note will be reposted in the Questions and Answers)
NOTE: Gabby has submitted a comment but must first answer the questions posed to him/her before it will be posted.
MH
Well, since you seen to be into entertainment, here’s a gem of a classic from Doris Day that explains how time works:
Unfortunately, the whatever-will-be-will-be philosophy has also given us, perpetuated our sense that our fate lies outside of us.
It does when it’s outside the context of the lyrics but I figured since Gabby was in some fear the PJs were out the get us that there would be a point where it would dawn on the person to consciously be aware of where they are. Gabby can’t technically see the future-self, nor does Hollywood, or the various conspiracy folks that claim to do time travel could either. The song to me I hoped would make sense that trying to divine the future of what is going to happen to you personally (like being beautiful, rich or sounding like a newly wed couple whether you will have rainbow future together) isn’t a question you can get a firm answer on by asking someone else.
What is probably missed is the evolution animals are forced to be under because Earth Humanity wants some form of companionship outside survival-evolution. The stuff this blog was originally pointing out what Earth Humanity does day in and day out apparently is A-OK to some folks. I had hoped the person at the other end would wiki Doris Day and see where I was ultimately going with it.
Here we go again, know it all Michael Horn at it again. We will be what we will be based on evolutionary prerequisites, so it is to a many great extent out of our direct control. You should know that already Michael if you have studied what the plejaren have said for this long. Otherwise those people that left earth in ancient times who went on to join the plejaren, Quetzal was one of them, would not have been such a significant loss for earth humanity. Evolution and spiritual evolution is a real thing, and that is why Einstein was selected, not at random, but based on his high level of evolution, and lives lived previously, as noted by the ancestors of todays plejaren.
Listen, you are obviously UNKNOWING of what the Plejaren and Meier have long said about how we create our own destiny, as well as other elements of the spiritual teaching, etc.
You come here to entertain yourself, feel important and carry on based on your very inadequate understanding. Further, this direction isn’t what the topic of the blog is. And I say to all that getting on topic, showing how what one is expressing relates to the topic should be adhered to.
Interesting as usual that someone must always come to our aid, clean up the mess we make though they try hard to help within being by our side in thought, consciousness.
And though the entire premise resides on our escape and ‘hiding’ from those whom have manipulated us long ago(our joint ancestry with the Plejaren). It seems that peace, harmony, freedom is something also to strive for, for some of those whom do come here from afar. Hasn’t it also been stated that the Plejaren have only known real peace for the last 50,000 or so years? That up to that point they also struggled within the degradation of war and turmoil. I am sure they had their own issues to attend to before that and now try hard to help the double faced, smile to the front/ stab the back mentality of earth ‘humans’ and their plagues within thought, consciousness. Ones again it is always made out that ‘they’ should be of the likes of superman, iron man, star wars, lord of the rings, spider man, star trek….. something beyond human and mystical in their ability’s to be other than what they are. They owe us nothing as it would seem!! So why do we continue to find conspiracy’s in just plainly trying to change and put the work where it belongs, here on earth, within us individually! We are in control of the actions we take, are we not? If they sent impulses to try and further our scientific understanding towards the good, isn’t it our fault that we didn’t go that direction with the technology? We have come a long ways in the last 100 years! The bumps will make us what we are and within the delusional beliefs and world views shared on this rock, I for one am utterly grateful for the outer view we are given.
NOTE:
This comment was off topic and therefore not approved.
MH
If any of you were right, why does the text you write not pack a revolutionary worldwide media printable attention grabbing punch?
I’m not implying your ego has the better of you, I am just asking a simple question.
You should probably do a little more research into things like:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/seti-sent-evidence-of-et-contact-by-they-fly-productions-300077115.html?tc=eml_cleartime
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_441
…and then start submitting your own, more riveting texts instead of just sitting back as an off-topic critic.
Michael your off topic comments moderation is horrifying. But Ptaah has praised you, so I suppose you must surely be right. Either that or Ptaah is wrong, and given that he is just a man after all I suppose that is a reasonable consideration.
People can be praiseworthy in one area and not in another. Nonetheless, praise and blame are not to be taken too seriously…although blame can be more instructive if the criticism hits the mark.
Now, as was asked of you previously – though you were apparently too busy criticizing to address it – is your name Gabriel, Gabrielle (or some actual other derivation) or is Gabby the adjective you try to slip by as a noun?
NOTE: Gabby submitted posts without answering the question I posed to him/her about his/her name, identity, etc., saying it’s because, “…you MH are unable to refrain from attack.”
MH
Gabby,
I won’t speak for others, but in my opinion, you have neglected to remove yourself from the preconceived notions of religion, and conspiracies, be the conspiracies political, or otherwise, to take two of what I consider to be the most important parts of the information contained in the entire story/case of the life of the last true Herald to walk the face of this planet. First of all, we are responsible for our thoughts, feelings, and actions and we are responsible for the acceptance of anything either due to our lack of efforts to learn the truth of all things, or the willingness to accept as truth, what another tells you. And secondly, to understand that the law of cause and effect applies to every single thought, feeling, and action we have. Understanding these two basic and forever immutable facts will be greatly beneficial to our ability to find logic and reason behind the entire compilation of material in this story/case. Without these two truths, anything that flies in the face of what has been wrongly impressed upon each and every one of us through lessons taught to us by our parents, clergy, and educational system since birth, will remain a barrier to our ability to comprehend just how we have been making so many mistakes for so long. Change is rarely easy to accept, but in this case, entirely necessary in order to achieve the coarse correction needed to ensure the future of mankind in this solar system. We are our own saviors, there is nothing coming to save us from ourselves but ourselves. The nefarious actions of the visitors to this planet in the past, were just that, historical events, and none of those truly responsible for screwing with our genetics, or allowing us to revere them as creator gods will ever return, although the fact that the few remaining visitors who were working to continue this effort, were in fact removed by the Plejaren not that long ago, so in light of your position, as I understand it, the Plejaren, in effect did exactly what you would expect of them to the degree that they were allowed to. No events of the past are able to be altered now that we have moved past that time and place, and none of the Plejaren who may have been here during those ancient times, are still alive today, so they in fact are absolutely not responsible for how we have become, but because they feel any sort of relationship with us, we should be far more willing to listen, and act upon their warnings than we have shown ourselves to be up to this point. It is absolutely about the truth, and the truth in ALL things is what MUST be recognized, as we have seen the effects of life through lies and deceptions over the last several thousand years, and if we continue to expect others to come to our rescue without diligently working to save ourselves THROUGH truth and nothing but the truth, we will continue to be the cause for our own demise. Collectively we MUST stop stepping on others in pursuit of our personal gains, and understand that no single life is more important than the next.
Please let me slam dunk Gabby or its basis of disruption . First , Nikola Tesla taught Einstein everything he is famous for by way of the patent office Einstein worked for . He read all of the Tesla patents . And since the Tesla investors bought him out because of his supreme insight of good , they just killed him . So Gabby , you don’t even know enough to get caught . Try not to expand your mindset to crime , cause your already busted . Mindcrime here , who knows what your capable of . So far .. another half gallon of Blue Bell ice cream and a few more diet cokes and then I’m concerned. Hope you don’t have a concealed carry permit or a diet consisting of fluoride to dumb you down more . Go kill some weeds on your property with some Roundup and drink that well water . We will be awaiting your quality updates on science and philosophy we can bank on . Good day! Thanks for the knowledge
Phillip most of the information is laid out in the open these days. It is so far beyond collectively what we have ever expected , that is the great barrier. If you had someone in your life you trusted so immensely that their word could never in your mind be questioned and THEN you discovered unimaginable information . You, and I both , would walk around in circles , sleep on it and suffer the disclosure pain and then we would eventually be able to deal with it . We have a case now (an let me put in here that I am way beyond my disclosure comfort zone now) That many things are cooroborated regarding information that is on cave walls , acient texts and archaeological finds that supports most of the reportings . What this means is that much of the technology and information has been intentionally suppressed . Civilizations have disappeared because of their situation , however , we are stripped of knowing who they really were due to technology harboured and secured and history ‘tailored’ to either change the narrative or dissolve it completely . We know that the astronomy shows massive extinctions like clockwork that disappeared societies and they will happen again and in our case soon . The ones with the power control this big blue mable and they can be deferred if we change it . But its as far and wide as the mind can open up to when the wide truth is embraced. How many times must we be reminded about the force fed bull . Just look at the gold game , its like musical chairs who will be caught holding the slection of door number one , two or three and no gold is behind the curtain . When we catch them it will end. Not in a good way , however , its a lot of things on the line here that are exposed. Pre emptive is the concern , BUT follow the money . Its a great start . Research the people of power and their pasts , what motivates them . Look at it like this , who loaned Wal Mart the money to expand ? Easy , Bill Clinton with his fellow Arkansaw Sam Walton woo ing the Chinese , the only ones willing to invest . The manufacturing agreements went over sees and we saw the development of the biggest retailer and the largest shipment of jobs over seas and the decline of manufacturing . So , ‘Uncle Sam’ went from made in the USA with flags and gut American pride to a fell swoop of sellout to big overseas deals to fluff the Chinese trillions bailing out a further bankrupt USA and sending Trillions of trade deals over seas to send back to the flag flying fools that believed in Wal Mart and foreign cars . They taught the country to sell it out , buy foreign and flush your country down the tube. All our oil is sold to foreigners and all your personal data via the cloaked in secrecy TPP is now in the hands of … drum roll please … CHINA and the NWO . All your shopping habbits , phone record web and every step you take on this earth with a time stamp . Woo hoo the freedom act! Just put a chip in me , suck my bank account and assign me to my cubicle. I hope no to be one of the 250 million Americans exterminated by the remains of project paper clip before Amerika 2025 . Oh well , let me go take my fluoride, glyphosate and bask in the flicker rate of my TV hoping they don’t turn my car off , or my lights because I have been a bad human speaking out . Maybe one of those Blackhawk helicopters flying around lately have a seat for me. Fema region 6 here I come! woo hoo reprogramming can do a body good . Good slave.
With these conspiracies all over the place, they must be stepping on each other like crazy. Maybe they’ll all cancel each other out.
There is tremendous value in having a good debate, argument and rendering a powerful constructive critique in any of life’s forums. Perhaps it may help to keep focused on the effort to come from a Neutral+Positive place when doing so, so as to ensure a constructive consequence?
The law of causality is a powerful ally – its like having the entire consciousness of the universe on your side. It will unapologetically ensure that the energy with which we approach things (be it a thought, word, feeling or action) be the energy that results from it.
So, it seems logical that a neutral+positive approach to all matters discussed in this forum come from a neutral+positive place. It is indeed my everyday practice~!
Saalome,
Arie
Well said Mr Anderson. Your response was logical and to the point.
It is rather a thankless job the Plejaren are doing. Not to mention the incredible determintation from Billy and all the supporters of the Mission.
Nice comment Arie! Billy explains in “God-delusion and God-Insanity” page 37 that the universal consciousness is a love existence, that doesn’t punish or praise, it just creates natural casual laws, and the corresponding effects are given from causes. Nothing happens by accident. Each effect comes from a determined cause, and out of the effect develops a casual foreordination, and these casual foreordinations are the core of all things.
Cause and effect, the profoundness of it is astounding when you think about it logically.
Billy also explains in “Lehrschrift” page 159 that climate change is also a casual foreordination, due to the causes of human-being’s guilt of poison gases and substances in the air, hence the climate changes as an effect, which is a casual-foreordination-based sequence of greenhouse gases and climate change.
*Kudos to MH for trying to get the powers-that-be, and the masses to consider the laws of cause and effect, in regards to overpopulation (Achim Wolf’s petition), potential WWIII (ISIS petition), Henoch prophecies etc.
Very well said MH
@ Corey: thank you for the reference mentions (helpful). Indeed the simplicity of “causality” and “contrary factors” are so logical. Often wonder why this is not a subject matter taught in school every day. The difficulty is to stay focused on always keeping a neutral+positive inclination – so it helps having someone like you to remind us when we forget. Since we are students of this material, it would be powerful to lead by example, so we can BE the change we want to see in the world.
yes, thank you, there have been quite a few comments made here lately that are worth reading and this thread is one of them. I am frankly tired of the same old points of contention hashed over time and time again. Maybe these point of contention are of some value in some respect though I personally am not sure what it is? well I do know what it is but I will refrain from becoming one of those that hash over things time and time again. Michael, your endurance is remarkable.