The real price of the cover-up of the Billy Meier case will be paid by humankind for a very long time to come, which bothers the shills and hucksters not one bit
In my presentations and interviews I’ve been emphasizing the very overlooked fact that the confirmed existence of extraterrestrial life forms would be the single most important discovery in all of human history…exceeded only by contact between them and a person on Earth.
Nonetheless, the UFO field is filled with one unsubstantiated claim after another from people popping out of the woodwork in an attempt to reap some kind of bounty from the delusional, distracting, disinformation rich circus.
To the Rescue
Yet another “UFO investigator” has popped up to proclaim how he’s gonna follow, find and reveal the truth no matter what – and also help anyone else who has real, verifiable evidence and information to get it out there too.
Right. Meet self-proclaimed “UFO Road Warrior”, Jeremy Corbell*, a nice fellow I’m sure who thinks he’s just discovered the equivalent of sliced bread. Worse yet is that it appears that some veterans of the UFOCI are encouraging him to take his kindergarten approach to UFOs very seriously.
George Knapp, a veteran TV reporter who’s done tons of pieces on UFOs – and who interviewed both Wendelle Stevens and me extensively so that he knows the Meier case is singularly authentic – seems to be a driving force behind Jeremy’s rather naïve but slick venture.
I emailed Jeremy to introduce the Meier case and myself to him but got no response, despite his gushy, “If you can prove or document compelling evidence in support of your story, I will amplify your case to the public, and help you expose the truth.”
I tried again a couple of days later, with a more in-your-face approach. Still nothing. So I don’t know if he’s sitting around in shocked silence now that he knows his whole approach is rather banal and irrelevant, or simply doesn’t care because he’s created a nifty persona that he wants to capitalize on.
You may wonder just why Knapp and some of the other people associated with this thing are out there pushing it. Familiar as I am with the cynical, deceptive, disinforming idiocy from the UFOCI, I find it even more troubling now that we’re so undeniably deep in exactly what Meier and the Plejaren have been warning about for decades. Whatever the perceived profit, the real price of the cover-up of the Meier case will be paid by humankind for a very long time to come, which bothers the shills and hucksters not one bit.
How It Works
Jacobus recently posted this on the blog, which helps to explain some of how this essentially suicidal process of manipulation works:
“The secretive GCHQ and JTRIG training manual which was leaked via Glenn Greenwald and Ed Snowden says:
‘Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.’
According to these latest documents, there are paid government agent/contractor persons on social media posing as someone they are not, whilst on the payroll of the government. Their job is to befriend members of the alternative media, embed themselves in the ebb and flow of day-to-day communications, and then to engage in elaborate subterfuge – by any means necessary. The training exercise uses terms like ‘befriend’, ‘infiltrate’, ‘mask/mimic’, ‘ruse’, ‘set-up’, ‘disrupt’, ‘create cognitive stress’, ‘use deception’, ‘ruin business relationships’, and ‘post negative information on appropriate forums’ – all of which is not only illegal and morally bankrupt, but also runs completely contrary to the very fundamental ‘values’ and indeed founding principles, of a modern free democratic society or constitutional republic.”
When Orphans Beg the Court for Mercy
If one wants to see a glaring example of en masse participation in such stuff, take a look here. You may notice that this thread started in 2009 with negative comments about the Meier case, me, etc., setting the tone. I started posting there a month ago to respond to a challenge by someone named John Razimus who’s been busy defaming the case, Meier and me for years. This particular coward kept up his attacks, claiming that he’d substantiate them and debate me anytime…while steadfastly running like a scared rat. (Radio host Dr. J just agreed to host that debate later in August…no word from Razimus yet.)
While the thread is filled with one anonymous loser and shill after another, it’s noteworthy to point out that “astroguy” is none other than the cowardly, long defeated, pseudo-scientist…Stuart Robbins. He apparently feels at home as a skeptic and debunker on the forum of Art Bell, who for the most part has been the champion of promoting all things paranormal, UFO, alien and pseudo-scientific. (Robbins is predictably not only cowardly in trying to attack from this blog, shunning any direct debate with me but he also exudes a seething jealousy that his go nowhere blog doesn’t get a fraction of the interest and participation as this one. Whose fault is that?)
In case you don’t have the interest or stomach for perusing page after page of attacks in this cesspool, another quaint aspect of the way it works – and I imagine it would be true on any thread there where anyone would present facts to counter the vicious attacks – is the way the snarling dogs take exception to being “insulted”, e.g. “You have time to insult but not enough time to answer questions.”, “All you seem to do is pout and insult us.”, “Lashing out with personal attacks, etc., etc.”
This reminds me of another joke. A man is being tried for killing his parents and in his own defense he pleads the court to spare his life because…he’s now an orphan.
Enter the Law of Causality
These particular orphans who shamelessly slash and stab, while paradoxically being so filled with shame they dare not mention their own names, who fancy themselves wizards, can only hide behind the curtain for so long before it’s pulled back by that dependable equalizer, the Law of Causality. Whether paid shills or simply empty, self-loathing, envious, misanthropic losers, they too are as Meier says, smiths of their own destiny. As Meier also points out, one cause can have many…effects. To say more would be superfluous.
Paying the Piper
The subject of UFOs, extraterrestrials, etc., has been deliberately and effectively marginalized into a tabloid topic through the efforts of the intelligence agencies and their willing paid and unpaid shills in the UFOCI, as well as the media. While the original purpose wast to hide any evidence of the existence of actual extraterrestrial life forms, the Meier case soon became the main reason for the UFO cover-up. There is nothing left of things like the crash at Roswell, which while authentic can’t any longer be proved, as is the case with other crashes.
The government can’t be forced to reveal what doesn’t exist, what it may not even know, etc. So of course the various “disclosure” events, hearings and other variations on the farce likewise serve the disinformation agenda. And the most willing disseminators of all of the disinformation and distraction are associated with the UFOCI, a fertile field for those looking for a safe haven with the least scientific standards for credible “research” of any subject imaginable. No doubt this too is deliberate, or at the very least a possibly unforeseen “benefit” of letting every lunatic and their claims have more than equal exposure than is accorded the only authentic, still ongoing UFO contact case.
As stated, the real cost of this is anything but insignificant and fictional. An ever-growing portion of the world’s population is being turned into techno toy toting dummies who can’t conduct a coherent conversation with another human being, who willingly give up their own identities as well as conscience and consciousness for momentary celebrity, while at the same time anonymously eviscerating anyone who reminds them of their own unbearable and empty worthlessness.
Through their willing complicity they have helped to assure the fulfillment of the long foretold prophecies, the specific, pointed, non-allegorical warnings of the man made environmental destruction, the wars, terrorism and devastation that could have largely been averted had not humanity willingly descended into greed motivated, religiously and politically fueled, degeneracy and denial.
How’s about all that, UFO Road Warrior, chaser of lights in the sky, imaginary aliens and a quick buck?
NOTE: My Canadian trip was a success. I ended up doing three presentations at ACE instead of one, because of audience demand (two were standing room only) and a presentation at the Lillian Smith Library in Toronto. I did four interviews as well and hopefully they’ll be posted soon, including the one in a car where I was partially asleep.
*It’s possible that circumstances prevented him from responding, so I gladly await correction of any inaccuracies, etc., should Jeremy care to clarify them.
David Icke is a charlatan because he thinks that global warming is a scam.
Dear Daniel Zamon,
Why don’t you want to be friends? I mean, me and my friends say nasty things to each other all the time. It is almost like saying, silly biscuit. Besides, the word “moron” is just a couple of pixels on your computer screen, hardly anything to be offended by… I didn’t even know the real meaning of the word, until you gave the dictionary definition .I am sure you have forgiven a friend or family member for a lot worse. Why take exception with me? We’re all just human, with the same genetic flaws, are we not? I hope you register the sincerity of my apology. For some strange reason, the more you reject my friend request, the more I want to be your friend.
Best friends forever? Come on, what do you say? Let go to the pub and have a nice beer old chap!
You’ve never said you want to be my friend, Jake.
Grow up, your speaking to a fully grown man. In light of what you’ve said to Dyson I suggest you quickly get to the contact reports that explains a large quantity about human beings, because you’ve embarrassed yourself several times here now on Michaels forum unnecessarily, and you may look back and regret it, being so silly with people. The contact reports reveals behaviour of all human beings like a bright light being shone in the dark, very illuminating. I could probably embarrass you, but I’ve already made it very clear that I am not going to do that, that your behaviour is somewhat depraved, but that you have the right to do the right thing, a generous right to do that, we know who you are and where you are, Grow up.
Please stop the depraved behaviour its completely unnecessary. What just because the governmental and educational regime has personally deceived you, All men go through that when they realise the extent of the world and its parameters, its not like your a unique man going solo, we all realise it independently. Just because we come from the same ur-ur-human species stock does not mean anything, we are not animals, it all gets very much more complicated with the human, we must absolutely be responsible and reasonable.
What you think the Plejaren got as advanced as they have been able to get by behaving, {enacting the same level of discipline and conviction to progress} as the Earth human behaves enacts, haha!, that was a real poor evaluation of the facts.
Daniel, I don’t blame you for being reluctant to befriend Jake. You’re an earnest truth-seeker, but Jake and I are just a couple of twits.
You should really just speak for yourself there Moshe…mister don’t cry for me because I’m leaving…and here you are back again? Oh Moshe why did you lie about such a thing?
“Jake and I are just a couple of twits.”
A little more self-respect were, please, gentlemen.
Thank you.
Sheila, I can’t quit ya. That and it seems like MH is again allowing viewpoints that don’t agree with his.
Hey Moshe , I am still here , reading with some hot popcorn . Just soaking it all up . My brain is growing and just trying to figure it all out . No shortage of information , learning and absolute riveting discoveries and realizations. I guess if anything I have a front row seat and just humbled by the idea that I am on an NSA ‘radar’ and I had a hacked ‘ponder yonder’ weirdo post in my name here is a bit weird. I was series when I told of being ‘swat teamed’ at my home and followed home from work by Blackhawk helicopters in the beam. I stripped down my footprint and prefer not to say much at this time. I still research every day , meditate , spend as much time in nature as possible , grow my own food , treat my body right and just try to figure this all out. I feel for Dyson so much , not knowing he was put through so much . I learned from that and slowly I disappear into a harmless footprint to just enjoy every day as if a gift and help where ever I can. I just mean well and seek the solutions like we all do. I try not to be dumbed down , filter my water , control my intake of pollutants as much as I can for now and meditate on better things to come. This is a marathon , not a race and I can feel being among intelligence I have gravitated with my further development , I am humbled and understand those that have reached out to mend fences and I would be one of them too. I called out a few comments myself in poor taste and posted serious life topics that may not mean much in the grand scheme of things , not to imply fear but awareness. But what is awareness if you have not understanding ? Just remember anger is a byproduct of fear. So when we get sensitive its close to a concern and caring we have . I have offended Andy , and Daniel and others , not meaning too of course . But just a percolating fear of things I thought were urgent. Thought we could change things with awareness. But time is the great healer , and sometimes we perceive the clock as being slow. Just in deep thought Moshe , thanks for the ponderance.
You probably shouldnt worry about that Terry 🙂
Everyone who gets to the most premium information in the entire world and then does not take it seriously to the point of having all their own questions answered, offends me. I’m offended by most people who think they’re interested in this information. Its nothing personal, I do try and prevent myself from saying anything at all.
Well, you are missed. There are a lot of comments lately that it’d be good to hear your pov on.
Sorry, my last comment was meant for David.
The Judas-lineage Matthew
Could you please tell me in which contact report does it say that Billy’s next incarnation is in 2075? I’m asking because I don’t remember reading anything about this in the contact reports, unless maybe this was mentioned fairly recently. Of course it’s possible I might have forgotten about this or I might have missed it.
Sorry for the rudeness but if you have not read something already, that is quite understandable, there are thousands of pages of information. Dont ever ask for information from someone without first being willing to put in some of your own research, there is a very important reason for this, so that you are not A: deceived, or B: susceptible to a half attempted explanation. The philosophy ensures you only receive the very rich full cream information, and it ensures that you take life into your own hands.
If its the case that know categorically that information is wrong and your intention is to catch the person out, or in the act of deception, then be very clear and strong about that, exercise some conviction and tell people what you really think about them and what they are saying, so that we know, everything is clear.
Joe, this was recently discussed here:
https://theyflyblog.com/2014/08/25/billy-meier-ufo-case-questions-answers/comment-page-10/#comments
You may find some additional information interesting on that same page.
I’d like to share with you all an openly concealed secret.
This barely if at all is a UFO community. The reason its this way is because once the individual realises its a piece of fabricated metal flying around, thats the end of it. The real questions people have is who is it, from where, if human then are we similar etc, worlds, history, future etc. So if its not obvious now then this is why so so much information has been given, the human is a very complicated being and deception, psychosis as well as all the rest of the various things comes into the equation. And so anyway to get down to answering that question “Who is in the UFO’s” all of that, very steep learning curve is a necessary requisite. The humans on Earth, some of us atleast are more than capable of understanding, some of us capable of doing something profound with our brains and going much further, again thats why there is so much information.
Conspiracy theories confuse and delude people, and thats another aspect of the situation, so this is why its been done this way, so that noisy idiots dont come along and do exactly what they’ve always done-which brings us to the study of Earth its humanity, religions belief the spirit, fringe sciences and various other things. Also Earth has no leadership regime, its still at the very beginning of yet another globalisation.
Cheers 🙂
Hi Dyson,
One question?
Are you really Dyson Devine?
Is there a way for you to prove the authenticity of who you are claiming to be? Is there a way to contact Dyson through another means to determine weather he is actually posting here at the moment? If not, then we have a problem.
The reason why I am starting to doubt the trustworthiness of “Dyson”, is because of his condescending and scathing remarks.
If you are a troll, then I have to confess, you had me there for a moment. But this fish, unfortunately, got away, Adios Amigos!
Dear “Jacobus” (if you are really Jacobus!) (Joke)
We have people here from all over this planet (at least!) and one thing I learnt in my long travels is that a sense of humour is very culturally influenced, so I have to say, whether it was intended as such or not, I think your entire thrust is as hilarious as the guy’s here who said mine was obviously a fake screen name. Hardly. I had to fight my way out of a violent childhood with that name.
Michael’s been hosting my parasitic prose for the last several years or so, and the suborned FIGU US forum before that. Seek and ye shall find. And one of my apparently innate distinguishing characteristics, as described by my many enemies, is my “condescending and scathing” remarks. If you think I’m bad, you should read how Billy writes:
506. “The Earth humans think it must be just the same as, for example, the Pope comports himself, and therefore many gentleman ministers and sect leaders, who truthfully, however, do nothing other than hide their true faces and appear friendly and neighbor-loving, to thereby mislead their believers about their actual nature, and to be able to exploit them.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meierv6p379.htm
“Poor little idiots want to offset their stupidity, their lack of recognition, lack of wisdom and deficient honesty with dishonest attacks and defamations in order to thereby iron out their damaged or weak image and their underdeveloped intelligence. Truly, an effective presentation of evidence through reason and understanding is an enormous challenge that arouses all know-it-alls, antagonists, critics and eternal mischief-makers to opposition, who are the humans who already want to strike back before they have begun with their vicious, antagonistic, defamatory, mischievous, mendacious and critical attacks.” – Billy, March 2007
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.sdw142.DerfalscheWeg.htm
And the above translation tells you why I won’t try to prove myself to you.
But if you go, I’ll miss you, because your revealingly antithetical (to the teaching of the truth) stances presented me with opportunities to bang on about their corrections here, which is always valuable to others and exemplifies what Semjase said about how adversaries to it end up having to serve to truth, which is a hot kitchen just now, I’d be the fiorst to admit.
But, at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious – how did the fake “Dyson” manage to steal the still-awaiting-publication manuscript of The Way to Live from the real Dyson, and, then, why did he (or she!), as a troll and impersonator, then choose to share it with the world? Hmmm?
L O G I C. 🙂
Until next we meet, go in peace.
Dyson , I completely understand you now . The dangers the penalties served and the relentless understanding . Icke recently put his knowledge of the underworld out on the table and I was riveted. I don’t subscribe to him but I understand you have to be knowledgeable enough to get their cryptic commentary . Almost like thumbing their nose talking about things in the open and if you are not smart enough or well read enough in the depths of this scourge you are laughed at. And if you do , its a warning . I got it and am continually shocked at these monsters, what they are capable of and what they plan and have in the barrel of a loaded gun. Again I sit , soaking it up , studying each and every maneuver and I would hope others do the same . But thanks Dyson , Duke stunned me recently when he was referencing the religious history and spoke of how ‘he’ is already here and ‘has been’ speaking from the heart and the herald of the worlds news for some time . Its very exhilarating and saddening at the same time . So much resonance and so little receptors . In my studies I find such a huge open disclosure of the things to come by the narcissist power movers. Its like a pre fame victory lap to even amplify the events. Its super sick , and I just hope more awaken to see this in the open before it occurs so they can be prepared . Like waiting for the curve ball and then crushing it out of the ball park so far its in a parking lot or a river with rabid trendies chasing for the ball . It wasn’t a home run trendie , it was a crushing of the idea and now your on the news in your kayak and you represent the clue less. I know a lot of intelligent people post here and I just can only hope you all learn more about true history . A lot of false history has been pushed and we have to get away from it for the sake of truth and clarity . Its painful , but its genuine and a better foundation to build your life upon , Truth . I am still working so hard to sort it all out and build the truth in my lineage . I find Billy amazing and it makes me go back and learn the truths and exhume the fallacies from my mind , because as I said , I am not going backwards in essence I am moving forward and if its not today its a hundred years towards clarity and correction of the wrongdoings that assailed all of us to the day I stand in the presence of correction of our genetics and the lives we were supposed to lead in a world honoring a planet we love , respect and nourish with our every action, daily , forever forward teaching our children the right way to do the same .
Hi David Scott,
So, I was breezingly along until I read this:
“Duke stunned me recently when he was referencing the religious history and spoke of how ‘he’ is already here and ‘has been’ speaking from the heart and the herald of the worlds news for some time . ”
Who is this “has been” ‘Duke’ you speak of? I usually quote large passages from the Meier material to the point Mike has several times asked me to shorten it down a LOT. It used to be more lengthier! I don’t recall me saying I was here for a long time or a herald in any sense of the word considering I’m still pretty new at this gig and appreciative Mike has been very generous with me here as I’m learning each and every day, one day at a time.
Thank you Mike.
That being said, I don’t necessarily disagree with Dyson, especially considering that a good chunk of the English translations are from Mr. Devine, which some people seem to forget, so what I’m usually referring to is something … else. Sure, don’t throw the baby out of the bath water but don’t be oblivious to looking things up for yourself. I don’t know everything after all but I don’t pretend to grant other people the respect given to “all knowing powers” either like every minute of life is a religious institution.
Dear David,
We’re kindred souls. You’ll be OK. There are way more of “us” than “them” in this universe. Just not on this particular planet, and that’s the problem.
“Only puny secrets need protection. Big discoveries are protected by public incredulity.” Marshall McLuhan
I’ll leave you with a word about pain from The Teacher of the New Times:
346) If a human being falls into sorrow, then he/she can certainly let this become the greatest pain, but then he/she must bring an end to both pain and sorrow, because he/she cannot live thereby, and the existence demands progress, freedom and joy of life. If pain and sorrow are not overcome, then unfreedom, stagnation, resignation and destruction of life arise.
495. If the consciousness remains open during all practical and living experience, it can fathom the actual truth, which is hidden behind everything. Thus also the pain can become the teaching if the truth behind the suffering is fathomed. Therefore pain can become the best ally on one’s life-long way on the search for knowledge, love, wisdom and harmony. Therefore, whatever the human being does, may it be the case that he/she never closes his/her mind to any pain, because it is able to bring a progressive gift: cognition, cognisance, knowledge, practical experience, living experience, wisdom, love, peace and harmony. Therefore it is recommended that one never remains pain-free and inviolable, because pain must be accepted, fathomed and processed, and therefore the human being must remain violable in order to be able to be befallen by pain and suffering, because this is a section on the way of the progress. Regardless of how despairing one may be in pain and suffering, it must all be accepted as it is, in order to learn from it and to overcome it so that one is not suffocated by it and is not psychically ruined. Thus pain, suffering and sorrow become a garden of the learning and of the discovery of the evolutive values.
Hang in there, David. 🙂
Duke , I was referring to a post where you made an epic connection with Billy and his lineage . I was not trying to quote anything , but I remember in it how religions await a ‘saviour’ and how you may have been implying that he has been here all along and not acknowledged . Billy and his history and epic teachings was all I was mentioning. I can’t talk about it much because I am so blown away by what I have been reading . If people would read Billys work it would be easy to conclude who he is and that no one has ever written such a massive body of intensive writings of such importance.
Dyson , you are a man of great wisdom and I very much appreciate your words. All of them , your work , steadfast path and in this note your words of encouragement. By being still and reading and learning I am employing your words the wise as we continue . These are amazing times to be alive and I am just trying to get the most out of every moment and as you said the discomforts are learning opportunities for all of us. Personally I am proud to have found such fruitful interaction here and am finding my place and the realizations of opportunites missed . Just missed opportunities to uplift and shed light in a time where the good has a forever stronghold on the drag of the friction we look to overcome. I just continue to soak up the knowledge as it is vast and knowing we can take it with us to continue the mission we align with BEAM. Your a beacon of light and that says a lot to all of us here . Continue to be well and communicate , David
Thanks for all the flowers, David, but you’ve delivered them to the wrong address. BILLY wrote Die Art zu Leben and all we tried to do was faithfully convert his German words into relatively understandable “English” (“Figuise”) in “The Way to Live”*. Billy’s the wise man. I’m just one of his little messenger-boys, and without him, you’d be much less impressed with “my” wisdom. And don’t get too comfortable here. Unless I soon busy myself elsewhere on more long translations (which we’re starting to think isn’t a good idea anymore, with all that’s already out there evidently being ignored) history tells us that soon the trollbots will arrive again in force, and Billy’s truth is quickly buried by their synergy, and the vicious cycle can start again once they’re back on their roads-to-nowhere, or wherever Billy’s armies of trolls go when they aren’t on my back here. I customarily wait until Michael’s blog posts go back to attracting single figure comments, I return because I prefer not having Billy’s newly translated material buried by chaff, and suddenly we get 200+ comments. So make the most of it here, David, while it lasts, because it won’t unless the truth is first recognised and then effectively (vigorously) defended. And that won’t happen by/for English-only readers as Billy has said again and again. We genuine truth-seekers need a safe hangout where we can filter out the undesirable elements, IMO.
But anyway, David, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Learn German fast, meditate correctly and study the books and you won’t look back. That’s what it says and that’s what it does. And I guarantee you’ll find a lot of untranslated surprises, because it would be simply irresponsible of us translators to provide SOME things out of their required context. You may soon be living in the “BEING”, and nothing will ever be the same.
I was more than 50 years old when I discovered Billy’s texts and they do WORK. I used to be a very pissed-off person, if you search for my surviving whistle-blowing work from the ’90s. Now, even with my most basic rights of free speech denied me, I’m a big softy. Ask anyone. I’ve even had advice HERE recently that I’m being TOO soft. Strange days indeed! 🙂
Solidarity.
* 493) When someone comes under the influence of misled and misleading human beings as well as of wrong points of view and false-cognitions, and so forth, he/she loses not only all of his/her merits, which he/she has achieved in his/her life, rather he/she also destroys his/her own decision-making capability and blocks his/her freedom. Therefore, may one never fall, either voluntarily or involuntarily, under the influence of those who are misled and misleading. Wrong viewpoints, misguidance and wrong convictions lead to dangerous manifestations of all terrible things from which the human being, once he/she has fallen into these, is barely able to free himself/herself again through his/her own power. To be heeded in association with this is that, as a rule, misled and misleading human beings are struck by unknowledgeness and are often devious, consequently, they cannot be labelled dull and simple-minded. Also passivity and lack of intelligence is not characteristic of them – quite the contrary; they are as slippery as eels, supple and cunning, they know every trick in the book and are downright geniuses in the game of the deception of the fellow human beings. Therefore, caution is recommended concerning them, because their misguidings are very dangerous, because they erode the truth and impede evolution. Consequently, unknowledgeness is not harmless; rather, it is a factor of the irrational guiding, of going into the unreal and of the destruction.
Hey Dyson,just wanted to say thanks for all you do (you too Mr. Horn). Although I’m not a big contributor to these posts, I read them daily along with whatever other information I can get my hands on.This question is not necessarily for you but do you have any suggestions on how to learn German? i am fairly new to this but I’m all in 100% and I’m trying to learn on my own but from my understanding there is much more than can be read if I could read German .I feel I owe it to myself and my family to do all that I can to learn as much as I can. It starts with me, and I’m itching to further evolve my conscience as much as possible before my time is up.
Hey Adrian, The best way that I know of (for any language) is to go and live in the country that speaks it (temporarily), so several geographical locations, political regimes to choose from that speak german, to drink the water, eat the food, work alongside the locals, shop at the local whatever, pay for the local services as you would, overcome the obstacles as you would etc. But there are basically 3 technical groups, the city human, the country human, the transient human (not quite either), you’re better off keeping to your own kind, which ever country you live in, though if you do move, you then become a transient human, and in that particular situation you’ll probably end up speaking to tourists etc from your own country more than any other. Its basically a rule, and also goes some way to explaining how multi-culturalism is a myth, haha, sorry for explaining it that way, but absolutely true. Probably see if you can find tourists in your local area first that speak german natively, that way your making proper use of the resources around you. If you cant find any, check to see whether your own position\temperament is aligned with the various undercurrents etc, or whether your just a local guy or whatever, important really to take that seriously, because a lot of people every year go on these wild things around the world, and end up behaving just as they did before they left, learning absolutely nothing from the experience. Like when people think they can speak german or french or whatever, and haha, can barely understand the intellectual version of their own language yet, etc, you get my points yeah, good day friend 🙂 google; duolingo community
Adrian, try Duolingo at Duolingo.com it may be a good start, and it’s free.
Dyson,
1. Is the above quote #493 also from “The Way to Live”? It appears to talk of d-evolvement.
2. You mentioned “…meditate correctly…” which I’ve been curious as I’ve tried a few myself — which form of meditation have you personally found most effective?
It’s hard to find a place to address these matters, given no local reply options.
MH wrote, July 19, 2015 at 5:29 pm:
“Acupuncture has been shown to work for other reaosns. Thermography has also validated the existence of the acupuncture meridians and points. There are other elements connected to electrical activity, the nerves, etc.”
But I recall Quetzal saying that the traditional terrestrial acupuncture points and the lines they follow are not on the right places. Didn’t he say that?
Don’t get me wrong. I had a painfully injured shoulder (badly healed torn muscles) for 30(!) years and only this year got it “unfrozen” by having very long, thin needles poked and vigorously manipulated deep into my carcass in various counter-intuitive places near the problem, by a trained professional who knows his stuff. He called it “counter trauma”, like slapping someone who’s becoming hysterical, to shock spastic cramped small muscle groups into letting go, relaxing and cooperating. It’s called “needling”.
And, since you brought up the topic of neurology, THIS will knock your socks right OFF!
http://www.heliusmedical.com/divisions/neurohabilitation/pons-device
Really good news! I want one! But not (yet) for civilians.
http://www.army.mil/article/96521/
Cheers!
Thanks Dyson, I will read that as soon as possible.
Quetzal didn’t say the current acupuncture info was wrong, only that there were many more points than currently recognized. There are now numerous community acupuncture cilincs all over the US, with low, sliding scale rstes. Come on over!
Dyson Devine,
First try the name Billy Jack for a name to have freshman year high school after the summer block bust of 1974 by the same name. Second a “Pointer Plus” made by Tens Plus Industrial company will allow you to trace a nerve to the correct spot, after seeing your last post The Future of Mankind site you should have had a phased array system back ground just make one. We have very similar back except mine is sea based., even down to VA shoulder surgery. After only finding BEAM’s info two years ago I glad Michael is slaying the UFO trolls, been sidetracked to many times by Phyops, and capitalist leaches using some else to make money. If you would like Mike has my email please reach out my home is already on here.
Wish you fair winds to you back and steady seas.
Billy Wilson
Rob,
I didn’t know you had already replied to my question. Thanks for the reply.
David Scott double spaces
Duke occasionally too many spaces
Terry either too many or too few
parva-age-Matthew one or two specific occasions leaves a double space
Adrian Martinez leaves no spaces. ~probably some other examples~whatever
Apparently there was ~a long time ago~ an article in a magazine somewhere reviewing the FIGU and it described a few people as “fruitcakes and sausages” or something like that, I cant remember the details, point is, what’s going on here with the strange punctuation in wide sections of individuals at large. Also I read something from this forum from January 2015 today and it has the same speakers talking about the same subjects, It was funny to read same bickering arguing, same social configuration year on year. Anything else that could be done, or?
Thank you, Dr Zamon – the one invariably of good health
Oh yeah apparently it could be this or whatever “Some argue that the “additional” space after a comma and full point serves as a “pause signal” for the reader.”
This is the last of those off-topic posts I’ll allow.
My lack of spaces is from my weird “smart phone”. What is shown prior to posting and what is posted isn’t necessarily the same. Why? Not sure. maybe I should wait to get home and post from my compute? Sorry… It’s not intentional or out of ignorance ….
Hi Adrian, I heard on the news this morning that your phone can be hacked while driving. CRA also warns that anything on a cell phone can be transmitted to a third party and they warn you not to divulge any personal information while on a cellphone. I never upload to the cloud either because it’s already been hacked.
..sorry I don’t mean to be off topic but I was wondering if anyone can help me find information pertaining to the flat or hollow earth theory and the Plejaren’s opinion on the subject if any..thanks guys!
Hello Eric, there is nothing like that in real life so the Plejaren have not commented on it, Billy once said something like -“the core is ‘probably’ molten iron” etc standard scientific reasoning, much evolution has gone into scientific reasoning by the way -over last hundred years etc hope that helps, do some searches on FIGU.org forums. There are big cave systems though, and many underground ancient cities, as well as many tunnels and various other “stuff”
…thanks Daniel!
I’m going to quote from Ptaah that I think would be apt with regards to the conspiratorial subject that UFOs revolve around:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_035
Ptaah
… Many of these unbelievable, stupid conspiracy theories which are spread through books are known to me.
… Viele dieser unglaublich dummen Verschwörungstheorien, die durch Bücher verbreitet werden, sind mir bekannt.
Actually it deals thereby only with absolute absurdities, which are put out into the world by irresponsible book writers and thereby make the humans who read this silliness insecure.
Tatsächlich handelt es sich dabei nur um absolute Unsinnigkeiten, die von verantwortungslosen Buchschreibem in die Welt gesetzt werden und damit die Menschen verunsichern, die diese Albernheiten lesen.
Yet the Earth humans do not have much regard for the actual truth, because, in their lack of understanding they will be deceived through untruths, through lies and defamations because, to them, the truth appears too banal or too fantastic.
Doch die Erdenmenschen halten nicht viel von der wirklichen Wahrheit, denn in ihrem Unverstand wollen sie durch Unwahrheiten, durch Lügen und Verleumdungen betrogen sein, weil ihnen die tatsächliche Wahrheit zu banal oder zu phantastisch erscheint.
…
Ptaah
But unfortunately that is not the case, because no financial profits are to be made with it and because the actual truth will not be heard.
Leider ist das aber nicht so, weil damit keine finanzielle Profite zu machen sind und weil die wirkliche Wahrheit nicht gehört werden will.
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Note the ‘and because’ part again at the end.
Dear Dyson Devine,
I apologise for doubting you.
i will quote some things you said last month.
On the 18th of July, 12:54pm, you said about David Icke ” I think in his own way, he’s sincere”
Then claiming that and I quote, “The Pleijarens – while unchallenged masters, are not the only self-debunkers out there”.
In you scathing and ‘know-it-all’ style of writing, you also say, and I quote, ” Billy and the Pleijarens reflexive and exaggerated public opposition” and further ” had the P’s not been so specific and over-the-top with their glaringly illogical criticism”
Can you be anymore obvious?
There seems to be no end to your false and damaging statements. You continue by saying, ” lets face it, almost noboddy can cope with the truth, Figu types included”
Say what??
You wrecklessly continue spewing your so called LOGIC and wisdom.
“So I credit David Icke with uniquely providing oxygen for the desperately frightened and endangered origional authors”
What a load of sentimental rubbish! Everyone kows that David Icke is a con-artist.You finish off by praising David Icke once again by saying ” he actually provides an abundance of truthful and useful historical information”
Not true, false information intended to mislead, cannot be concidered truthful. I actually feel offended that you expect me and other readers to think that you have any good intentions, when you are so openly biased towards a well known slanderer. You insult my intelligence.
I will even go so far as to say, that you, Dyson Devine, are an imposter who have been strategically placed to infiltrate the english community.
This is based on my own thinking, and through your own negligence, allowed things carelessly slip through the cracks. You are responsible for that yourself, for your own stupidity.
Dear Jacobus,
Indeed, concerning certain writers, including D.I. , information can be found here:
CR from 17 Feb. 2007
Billy: Am 17. Februar 2005 haben Quetzal und ich in privater Weise über die Verschwörungs-Bücher verschiedener Schreiberlinge gesprochen, wie z.B. Zacharia Sitchin, David Icke, Jan van Holey alias Jan van Helsing sowie Andreas von Rètyi und Konsorten. Auch wir zwei sprachen privat darüber, und zwar bei einem Schachspiel am 3. März 2005. Da wir aber die privaten Gespräche nicht aufzeichnen, ist folgedem nichts in den Kontaktberichten enthalten, weshalb ich nochmals auf das Ganze zu sprechen kommen will, damit wir etwas Schriftliches haben in bezug darauf, was von den Bücherinhalten der genannten Schreiberlinge zu halten ist.
Icke schreibt ja auch in seinen Büchern ‹Das grösste Geheimnis – Das Buch, das die Welt verändern wird› über angebliche Zusammenhänge und Blutsverwandtschaften der Regierenden auf der Erde. Auch ist die Rede von einer Sippe resp. reptiloiden Rasse, den angeblichen Anunnaki, die die Erdenmenschen «durch den Geist kontrollieren» sollen. Diese ‹Reptilienmenschen› sollen also die Welt, die Politik und die Menschheit kontrollieren usw. Laut Icke sollen die Reptiloiden aus einer anderen Dimension stammen, und zwar aus der ‹unteren vierten Dimension›, von wo aus sie angeblich kontrolliert werden. Die Unsinnigkeiten in Ickes und all der anderen Verschwörungstheoretiker Bücher sind derart unglaublich, dass einem die Haare zu Berge stehen.
Ptaah: Gesamthaft sind die diesartigen unsinnigen Schreibereien kommerziell ausgerichtet, damit der Rubel rollt, wie du zu sagen pflegst, damit also die Schreiberlinge – wenn ich deinen Ausdruck verwenden will – ihre Taschen mit Geld füllen können. Ausserdem sind diese sektiererisch-glaubensmässig und esoterisch befangen und bewegen sich in ihren Gedanken und Gefühlen sowie in ihrem Glauben in Scheinwelten und sonstig unwirklichen Vorstellungen. Das Ganze dieser Glaubensdinge und Phantastereien hat sich in ihnen zu einem Wahn entwickelt, der sich bereits in schizophrenen Formen bewegt, wodurch sie die Wahrheit und Wirklichkeit nicht mehr wahrnehmen und folglich auch nicht mehr erkennen können… “( http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2007/nr-34/interessante-auszuege?page=0,5 )
Dyson has his, also sometimes extreme views in my opinion, which however does not mean he s an impostor…. At the beginning, before the Plejaren suggested FIGU to stop translating into english, he and someone else already translated a lot of material into english including CRs and now some books with the permission of Billy… He translated ten times more material than I did at that time….. It is not perfect, because the english texts cannot always give the real or complete meanings of sentences, but thats another story… However they could give the english speaking community some ideas and basic knowledge of the Geisteslehre… I know from what I m talking, as I can speak 5 languages fluently, japanese included and I know how difficult it is to translate texts, even more so because the languages are not my main “Job”…. At the end one does not come around learning german to understand the full extend of the GL…
It is strange that so many persons fall into the traps of these writers and sometimes one does not come around to deal with them (I was also in that case), until one finds out what the reality concerning these writers are… One day also Dyson will understand that these writers are taking everything out of context and only mixing a little bit of truth in it, so that those searching for the truth get “hooked up”…. Also the pope says sometimes things that are true and which correspond to reality, which however does not speak Christianisme free of all their atrocities they did during all the years and last centuries… and these few truths spoken out (sometimes stolen from Billys writings, but not always 😉 ) does not discharge them of the fact that in the core, their religious thiking did not change and remains the same….
… only a few thoughts…
Salome
Hi Nicolas,
Please use your first and last name when posting, thanks.
…o.k
Thanks Nic, we very much appreciate your insights and comments!
Conspiracy-theorists are not dumb per se.
They are just applying a “rational” explanation to something irrational, namely collective negative cultural influences.
As Dylan Roof and James Holmes have demonstrated, an average Joe cam be as much of a “reptilian” as a power-mad politician. You won’t solve a psychological and genetic problem by chasing official or unofficial criminal organizations, not one of which is at the root of the problem.