The Plejaren reveal the true and false conspiracies over the last 1,000 years
Ptaah
49. Which I can understand very well.
50. But now I want to mention the list you copied from “Wikipedia,” starting with the oldest – up to the latest – officially known conspiracy theory.
51. Those that effectively correspond only to illusory theories, I will simply label FALSE, while one thing must be labeled and explained as TRUE that corresponds to the facts.
52. So the following applies to the conspiracy theories listed below:
This list lists conspiracy theories of recent centuries. It contains confirmed and refuted but also unclear theories that deal with religious, political, cultural or everyday-cultural conspiracies. This list is not intended to be exhaustive.
12th Century
Blood libel: 1144 is the first time it was claimed that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child in order to murder it on Passover in a secret ritual.
53. FALSE
14th Century
Well poisoning: Particularly during the great plague epidemics of the 14th century, social marginalized groups, mostly Jews, were accused of having caused the epidemic to destroy Christianity by poisoning the public wells.
54. FALSE
15th Century
Witchcraft: The popular belief that natural disasters and illnesses are actually caused by black magic spellcasters (witches) was accepted by theologians in the 15th century and developed into an imagination of a secret witch sect in covenant with the devil, which led to persecution of alleged witches for centuries.
55. FALSE
16th Century
Exeter conspiracy: King Henry VIII. was supposed to be murdered to undo the Reformation.
56. FALSE
17th Century
Popish Plot: Catholics allegedly wanted to murder King Charles II.
57. FALSE
17th/18th Century
Man in the iron mask: Person close to King Louis XIV.
58. TRUE
59. The mysterious prisoner was the twin brother of the’ Sun King’, Louis XIV, born secretly in 1643 and deceased in 1703.
19th Century
1. Dunkelgrafen: Among the mysterious inhabitants of Eishausen Castle was allegedly the daughter of the executed French king Louis XVI.
60. FALSE
2.Flat-Earth-Society-hypothesis: The Flat Earth Society’s hypothesis still propagates today that the Earth is a disc.
61. FALSE
3. The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser: The foundling Kaspar Hauser, who was born in 1812, was the hereditary prince to the Grand Duchy of Baden.
62. FALSE
4. World Jewry: Jews allegedly want to seize world domination.
63. FALSE
5. Conspiracy of the Bahai: As Zionists or spies, Bahai want to destroy either the state of Iran or the entire Islam.
64. FALSE
6. Conspiracy theories around Jack the Ripper: The search for the true identity of Jack the Ripper left room for speculation; for example, that he was a secret child of Queen Victoria.
65. FALSE
66. Jack the Ripper was a man named Thomas Neill Cream, a trained physician who, after several murders, was arrested, accused, sentenced to death and hanged in 1892.
67. At the same time, a second man, who came from the royal house of Queen Victoria, was also involved in the same mischief, but was never caught because he ended his murders again.
7. Taxil hoax: Alleged eyewitnesses reported of Satanic rites of the Freemasons.
68.FALSE
8. Know Nothing Party rumors: Catholic immigration had served the Pope to undermine the values of the United States, so that a papal army could land in America and found a new Vatican in Cincinnati.
69. FALSE
20th Century
1. Agent theory: Adolf Hitler’s actions were guided by the economy.
70. FALSE
2. HIV/AIDS denialism: Allegedly there is no causal connection between HIV viruses and the immunodeficiency disease AIDS.
71. FALSE
3. AIDS from the US laboratory: HIV is said to have been developed by the US and been exposed or escaped.
72. FALSE
73. AIDS is attributed to the species of monkey Chlorocebus, which were abused by irresponsible and deviant people through sodomistic actions, which enabled the transmission of the immunodeficiency epidemic to humans on Earth.
74, However, the plague already existed on Earth 11,000 years ago in the case of the Chlorocebus, whereby in later millennia the plague was transmitted on the chimpanzee subspecies “Pan troglodytes troglodytes” (Note: central chimpanzee).
4. Amero: The governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico are said to be planning a North American monetary union.
75. FALSE
5. Area 51: The facility deals or communicates with extraterrestrial life forms.
76. FALSE
6. Doctors’ Plot: Soviet Union physicians allegedly planned attacks on high-ranking representatives of their country; see also Rooted Cosmopolitan.
77. FALSE
7. Assassination of Martin Luther King: The assassination of Martin Luther King was carried out or planned by the US government.
78. FALSE
8. Nijvel Gang conspiracy: The attacks carried out by the Nijvel Gang were a preventive strike against communism in Western Europe.
79. FALSE
9. Barschel affair: Former Prime Minister Uwe Barschel was found dead after an unusually tough election campaign against his rival.
80. TRUE
10. Bilderberg conference: The participants of the Bilderberg conference are said to be planning a world dictatorship or are the masterminds behind events steeped in history, such as the Iraq war.
82. FALSE
83. The Bilderberger conferences are not aimed at a world dictatorship, but at economic, political, military and secret service planning and machinations that are absolutely informal and are described as private and, as far as possible, kept secret.
84. The meetings bring together influential people from business, military, politics, media, academia, universities, high nobility, secret services and Christian churches.
85. At the conferences, they exchange views on current political, economic and social issues, as well as make decisions on political, military, intelligence, economic and Christian-religious leadership, etc. – some of which will be detrimental to the populations of the countries concerned – but also on the population and the economy of the countries concerned, etc.
86. The conference was initiated in May 1954 at the invitation of Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.
87. At that time, the conference was held at his own hotel “de Bilderberg” in Oosterbeek in the Netherlands, after which the name Bilderberg was adopted for these conferences.
88. The original and first reason for the first meeting was based on the fear that Western Europe and North America would not cooperate as closely as they urgently needed.
89. At least at that time this was the opinion, which has apparently been preserved to this day, that secret decisions are being thought up and made again and again, which are also directed against Russia, among other things.
90. And since everything is secret, the’ Bilderbergers’ are surrounded by various conspiracy theories.
11. Chemtrails: Condensation trails allegedly contain chemicals that affect the population.
91. FALSE
92. Condensation trails are visible long white stripes, which are caused by water vapor and other exhaust gases, especially in the wake of aircraft. These white stripes are formed especially behind high-flying jet planes when the humidity in the aircraft exhaust gases condenses.
93. These long “strip clouds” or condensation trails have nothing to do with the conspiracy theory regarding “chemtrails,” which are also referred to as “chemical strips,” “poison strips” or “toxic clouds,” and which are intended to correspond to the deliberate release of chemicals into the atmosphere.
94. According to the nonsensical conspiracy theory, airplanes are said to spray chemicals on behalf of states in order to change the weather and climate, poison people or otherwise influence world events, which is nothing more than absolute nonsense.
12. Chronology criticism: Certain sections of the historiography or calendar were erroneous or deliberately falsified.
95. FALSE
13. Chronovisor: The Vatican is or was allegedly in possession of a time machine.
96. FALSE
14. Stab-in-the-back myth: The defeat of the German military in World War I was caused by opposition civilians.
97. FALSE
15. Estonia conspiracy: Estonia’s demise was the result of an assassination attempt.
98. FALSE
16. Rumor of Orléans: In the French city of Orléans, 28 young women were allegedly kidnapped and forced into prostitution.
99. FALSE
17. Greater Israel conspiracy: According to the doctrine, Israel plans to extend Jewish sovereignty to the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
100. FALSE
18. GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen: The GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen, in which the RAF terrorist Wolfgang Grams was killed, gave rise to numerous conspiracy theories.
101. FALSE
102. All conspiracy theories regarding this have no truth content.
19. HAARP conspiracy: The US-American research program HAARP is said to have been used to manipulate thoughts or to artificially induce natural disasters.
103. FALSE
104. TRUE is however:
105. The HAARP can have many harmful effects on living beings through vibrations, cause electromagnetic and weather-related disturbances, bring military benefits in a variety of ways, as well as negative atmospheric influences, but in absolutely no way manipulate thoughts.
106. The large antenna system of HAARP shoots energy rays at the sky, which are reflected back by the ionosphere as electric waves of an extremely low frequency (ELF), whereby these waves can then be transformed into an insidious weapon, which is officially denied however.
20. Holocaust denial: The National Socialists’ Holocaust never existed.
107. FALSE
21. Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870 conspiracy: The plane was shot down by French or US planes, all the passengers died. The unknown attackers allegedly assumed that the plane was an aircraft in which Muammar al-Gaddafi was traveling.
108. FALSE
22. Mount Yamantau conspiracy: Russian mountain Yamantau is said to have a gigantic underground complex that is being used for military purposes.
109. FALSE
23. Assassination of John F. Kennedy: The assassination is not the work of a single perpetrator but of a conspiracy; the mafia, the CIA or Fidel Castro are postulated as its mastermind.
110. TRUE
111. Harvey Oswald, who was under the influence of several groups, was not the direct assassin but only one of three other men who were controlled by an interest group involving the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, a pro-Cuban group, oil barons and the military-industrial complex.
24. Alternative theories for Korean Air Lines flight 007: An aircraft, which was accidentally shot down by the Soviet Union, was classified as a threat according to official information. Theories say that Soviet air traffic control should be tested. Other assumptions suggest that survivors of the accident are imprisoned.
112. FALSE
25. Leningrad affair: Supporters of the Leningrad party system of CPSU were allegedly involved in criminal machinations.
113. FALSE
26. Phantom time hypothesis: Larger periods of medieval history were invented.
114. FALSE
27. Death of John Paul I: John Paul I had been poisoned because he probably wanted to uncover the Vatican’s internal machinations.
115. TRUE
116. John Paul I died of poisoning, causing the heart to stop functioning, which then gave the impression of heart failure.
117. He was murdered because he shocked the noble rule of the Vatican and because his behavior and way of life in the Vatican provoked an impulse.
28. Lusitania conspiracy: The sinking of the ship by a German submarine is said to have been deliberately brought about in order to stir up resentment against Germany towards the US population.
118. FALSE
29. Majestic 12 Committee: The US Secret Committee is concerned with the work of UFOs and extraterrestrials.
119. FALSE
30. Men in Black: Secret US government officials dressed in black ensure that mysterious sightings do not produce testimonies.
120. FALSE
121. Men in Black’ have nothing to do with US government officials, because this is a pure fantasy, unlike the’ Black Men’ who belonged to a group of people who were anxious to destroy the FIGU mission, including assassination attempt at that.
31. Moon landing conspiracy theories: NASA allegedly never landed on the moon between 1969 and 1972, and it was only faked.
122. FALSE
123. Apart from the allegedly first moon landing of Apollo 11 in 1969, which was fraudulently staged on Earth as a “real moon landing” and in the execution of which the participants were hypnotized and deceived, all other moon flights and moon landings actually took place.
124. The first and fraudulent and alleged lunar expedition, which was broadcast worldwide by television, was carried out for political reasons in order to put Russia behind the USA in terms of space technology and so-called space travel.
32. Death of Marilyn Monroe: Marilyn Monroe is said to have been killed by an American secret service because she had an affair with John F. Kennedy.
125. FALSE
126. Marilyn Monroe was murdered by Monroe psychiatrist and therapist Dr. Ralph Greenson on behalf of the brothers John Fitzgerald and Robert Kennedy in the night from August 4 to 5,1962, with an injection of chloral hydrate into the anus, which is why a puncture wound was not found anywhere on the body.
33. Montauk Project: In the Montauk project, the US military tried to control or influence the thoughts of civilians between 1970 and 1990.
127. FALSE
34. Elvis Presley’s afterlife: Elvis Presley did not die in 1977, but continued to live under exclusion of the public.
128. FALSE
35. New world order: Secret societies allegedly attempt to seize world domination.
129. FALSE
130. In modern times from 1844 onwards, there was no known or unknown organization apart from the USA and Hitler that tried to seize world domination.
131. Even today, apart from the USA, there is no state and no secret or well-known organization that claims world power.
36. Oklahoma Connection: The bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was supported by Islamists.
132. FALSE
37. Paul is dead: Paul McCartney of The Beatles died in 1966 and was then replaced by a doppelganger.
133. FALSE
38. Attack on Pearl Harbor: The US government or the US military allegedly knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor, but did nothing, in order to be able to lead a public cause of war.
From the translator: “So in whole, the sentence states that the US knew about the attack, but they decided not to do anything to prevent it, so that they would be able to give the public a reason to justify a war (and therefore push forward their own hidden agenda).”
134. FALSE
39. Philadelphia Experiment: A US military experiment allegedly led to the disappearance of a warship and its teleportation to another location.
135. FALSE
136. Such an experiment has never been carried out in the United States or anywhere else on Earth.
137. A book writer by the name of Berlitz only wrote a fantastical story in this regard, based on the fraudulent allegations of a man named Kal Allen.
40. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: The protocols pretend to be secret documents of Jewish world conspirators.
138. FALSE
41. Coup d’état against the government of Mossadegh: The coup against the Iranian government of Mossadegh was long regarded as a conspiracy theory until it was admitted by the US government in 2013 (Operation Ajax).
139. TRUE
42. Nazi UFOs: The Third Reich owned a futuristic aircraft.
140. TRUE
141. The Nazi Reich developed disc-shaped aircraft that went around 2000 km/h (1243 mph) and reached an altitude of over 12500 meters (1.24 miles).
142. These flying discs, however, were single-wing aircraft of a completely different nature than normal winged aircraft.
43. Reichsbürgerbewegung: The German Reich continues to exist legally to this day, whereas the Federal Republic of Germany is illegal. A provisional Reich government would exercise jurisdiction over the German Reich within the borders of 1937.
143. FALSE
44. Reptiloids: Reptiloids are human-like intelligent beings derived from reptiles or reptilian extraterrestrials. They had infiltrated the earth and were part of a secret pyramid-like organizational structure.
144. FALSE
45. Roswell UFO incident: A UFO crashed in Roswell, New Mexico.
145. TRUE
146. This crash actually took place, but for state security reasons it was declared a state secret, as a result of which all facts, reports, records and factual reports were locked up and largely lost over the decades.
46. Black Volga: Between 1960 and 1980, occupants of a black car of the brand Volga are said to have abducted and tortured children after they had asked about the time of day.
147. FALSE
47. Controversy over the seal of the United States: The seal refers to the Illuminati.
148. FALSE
48. Conspiracy for the murder of Robert F. Kennedy: The murder of the US Senator Robert F. Kennedy shows some inconsistencies with respect to the alleged perpetrator Sirhan Sirhan.
149. TRUE
150. There are indeed some inconsistencies in relation to the person of Sirhan Sirhan as a result of careless investigations, but it is undoubtedly clear that he was the true perpetrator.
49. Support of the Bolsheviks by the economy of the German Empire: The Sisson documents allegedly prove that the German Empire supported Russian revolutionaries financially.
151. TRUE
152. For years the Empire supported the Bolsheviks with money, weapons and logistics.
50. Skull & Bones: The student fraternity is not only concerned with occultism and Satanism, but also has contacts with the CIA.
153. FALSE
51. Slav Legend: Slavs in the east of today’s Germany were supposedly Germans from the Middle Ages onwards who decided against Christianization.
154. FALSE
52. Order of the Solar Temple conspiracy: The radical organization of the Sun Templars was allegedly infiltrated by right-wing extremism.
155. FALSE
53. Death of Lady Di: The accident that led to Diana’s death was caused by the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).
156. FALSE
54. 1999 Russian apartment bombings: The perpetrator of the bomb attacks is unclear and leaves room for speculation.
157. FALSE
158. The bomb attacks were the work of the Russian secret service FSB.
55. Sinking of the RMS Titanic: Allegedly not the Titanic, but her sister ship Olympic sank.
159. FALSE
56. Vril Society: The Vril Society was able to revive National Socialism with supernatural methods.
160. FALSE
57. Fire at the Waco siege: The FBI was responsible for a fire caused during the siege of a Branch Davidians compound. The fire killed a double-digit number of people, including children.
161. FALSE
58. Tupac Shakur’s death: Tupac Shakur is said to have been killed by the US government; alternatively, his death is only faked.
162. FALSE
59. Zionist Occupied Government: A right-wing extremist conspiracy theory states that all important government posts are occupied by Jews.
163. FALSE
21st Century
1. 9/11 conspiracy theories: The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 are alleged to have been either knowingly allowed by US intelligence agencies or executed by the US secret services themselves.
164. FALSE
165. The US president and secret services had only speculations and vague statements about imminent attacks on the US by anti-American Islamic terrorists, but had no knowledge of how, when and where they would take place.
2. MASCAL conspiracy: In 2000, an exercise called Project MASCAL dealt with the accident in which a plane crashed into the Pentagon. One of the participants then worked for American Airlines.
166. FALSE*
3. Death of Jürgen Möllemann: It is not proven whether the politician killed himself, but there was also speculation about a murder.
167. FALSE
168. Jürgen Möllemann committed suicide.
4. Conspiracy theories on the 2004 Madrid train bombings: The Basque terrorist organization ETA is said to be behind the attacks.
169. FALSE
170. The train attacks in the Spanish capital Madrid were attributed to Islamic terrorist acts.
5. Death of Jörg Haider: The Austrian politician is said to have been murdered.
171. FALSE
6. 2016 Turkish coup d’état attempt: One theory says that the Gülen movement and the “Deep State” carried out the coup attempt.
172. FALSE
Another theory says that the coup attempt was staged by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
173. TRUE
174. This, Eduard, is so far as the facts that Penta and I have been able to find with regard to the conspiracy theories listed in the list for the period from the 12th to the 21st century.
Billy This is more than I expected, and besides, many of these conspiracy theories were unknown to me, not even that there have been conspiracy theories dating back to the 12th century. Only by a reference over the phone did I become acquainted with the fact of this list.
Ptaah
175. We never talked about old conspiracy theories either.
Billy We didn’t, no. And now, as I said, I have only found the list because someone told me something about it.
*16 Years Later – It WAS a Plane
Recently released photos appear to corroborate what Billy Meier was told by the Plejaren regarding the object that crashed into the Pentagon. It was a plane.
Some people were very upset by what Meier said, to the point that they thought it brought the whole case into question. While the more conspiratorial approach was/is more popular, it doesn’t accord with the information from the Plejaren.
Thanks to Stefan Mitterdorfer for the translation.
MH, do you have a link to this translation or a contact report to help support this topic?
No.
Why not?
“According to the 672nd contact from 3/2/17 the following is correct:
The Bilderberger conferences are not directed at a world dictatorship, rather at economic, political, military and secret service planning and machinations, which are absolutely informal and are called private, and are, as much as possible and largely, kept secret.”
au.figu.org/macron.html
So maybe this contact report is the source of this information about conspiration theories…
Well it’s confirmed, Tupac’s dead.
Wasn’t expecting the Plejaren to investigate that, also thanks MH for posting this
Earth has a civilization with people who think they are civilized. FALSE Earth has a sham civilization full of barbarians and degenerate life forms.
That’s where I am at too Darcy, the Plejaren have revealed more than enough to solidify that as legitimate premise, but I instead call it a new colonisation complicated by an exploded world. Neanderthals for half a million years were disciplining their sons not to say or do anything until the very last 5 thousand years before commercial space transport. All we have to show for the last 75 thousand years is a bunch of pyramids cut by lasers construction workers don’t even have access to today.
Whenever a question is put to the P’s or Billy about 9/11 it never includes WTC 7. Why is that? How can they explain that away??
They did explain however that on Erra they don’t any longer live in high-rise buildings, similarly not next to any body of water, presumably because history taught them that even a moderate fire can cause a steel-frame collapse, similarly that even a moderate asteroid or moderate tectonic movement or primeval-storm can cause a devastating tsunami or storm-surge or white-wall inundation, in the same way that a normal office fire can now weaken steel support columns in any city world-wide, despite being the first in history to collapse, they’re all coming down at variable intervals over the next couple of hundred years.
Not sure I’m understanding this, according to this list the attack on Pearl Harbor was not known by the US Government, but according to the contact info, it was known by the CIA, but nothing was done to prevent it?
38. Attack on Pearl Harbor: The US government or the US military allegedly knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor, but did nothing to publicly give a reason for war.
134. FALSE
Contact Block Volume 6
Contact 238-Lines 436-437
Billy to Ptaah:
Good. If I still remember correctly, you explained to me at that time, that, through their spies and through the CIA, the America government was fully comprehensively informed that the Japanese Air Force would attack the American fleet in Pearl Harbor in the early morning hours of December 7th 1941 and would certainly destroy it.
Perhaps only the “but did nothing to publicly give a reason for war” was the false part of the question?
Thanks Sheila, but it still makes no sense to me. It would seem the reason was self evident by publically declaring War on Japan as a result of the attack, which lead to the dropping of the A-Bombs which according to the information was their real intent…..
Yes confusing. I too recall an earlier contact report discussing Pearl Harbor where the Plejaren in the discussion mentioned favorably that investigative author Robert Sennett in his book Day of Deceit had been the one to finally uncover the govt/Roosevelt coverup re Pearl, namely that in fact the US govt had indeed deciphered the Japanese military code, not just the diplomatic code. FDR was looking for a way to get the US public and Congress roused sufficiently to get us into the war. A few US merchant ships sunk by the Nazis in the Atlantic, involving hundreds of Americans killed overall, had not done the trick.
the problem may be in the translation, which also comes up as “but did nothing, in order to be able to lead a public cause of war.” I think I’ll replace the way that’s translated currently.
Hello Scott Baxter,
Well spotted. They do this on many different subjects I noticed when I went to go back and check all available sources on other times. They provide the one polarity answer then reaproach and offer the other polarity answer, then sometimes we can find evidence they have really thought it through thoroughly and provide a 3rd or 4th way into the subject in another source conversation or book. My assessment of this is varied because Ptaah has claimed vivid memory of conversations they’ve had throughout Billy’s life. They are also meticulously fact checking what they allow to be known. It could be a deliberate ploy to satisfy all audiences, could also be a mistake in translation or transfer. They also explained that Apollo 11 and TWA 800 are the few conspiracies they’ve been granted permission to elaborate on by the high council. With the Plejaren technology if you think about it, they could reveal things that no one has even dreamt of yet and then to Billy word it in an interesting way which instigates the controversial interests of the audience. Thank you Bye.
Perhaps there is some misunderstanding in regards to which components of the US government had foreknowledge of the attack. Also, Billy must have misspoken since the CIA did not exist until after the war in 1947; the COI was one of it’s predecessor agencies that was founded in July 1941.
Posted the same exact thing
Lol @ that one with Tupac
Thanks Michael for compiling this.
Does anyone know what happened to that earlier translation of CR 256 that described Harvey Oswald as being the single, kill-shot, assassin? Was it removed some time ago thanks to Hugo et al’s questioning of this on the English FIGU Forum in Jan 2016?
Many of us read this years ago (Search “256” in the following link) and I remember it conflicting with my fondness for Oliver Stone’s ‘JFK’ : http://www.theyfly.com/corroboration-evidence
The statements and answers for many of those left much to be desired unfortunately. Probably the most surprising one was the murder of Monroe. So, if I understand that correctly, JFK and his brother ordered Monroe’s psychiatrist to murder her?
Very unlikely either JFK or RFK ordered her murder. And for what reason? This is silly. Perhaps Ptaah was having an off night. It makes no sense. Neither Kennedy was a saint, but neither also was a murderer.
The best investigation I’ve seen of her demise was in the Donald Spoto biography of 15-20 years ago. Almost certainly an accidental overdose from her maid/nurse administering a strong dose of sedatives via enema, which she was not licensed to do w/o a doctor present.
So far, I am unaware of any factual errors on the part of the Plejaren. And based on their track record of accuracy, I would go with their version, rather than what a biographer wrote, which conveniently shifts the blame someone who, also conveniently, “accidentally” overdosed her.
I also doubt that any of us are really in the position to say we know the full truth about ANY public figures, what they are/were capable of, the reasons, etc.
Agree on your last point, we can never fully know about public figures, but I’d add that we can at least note when behavior alleged is totally out of character from the overall consistent portrait given by friends, family, colleagues, reporters, all who knew them. Neither Kennedy was exactly known for playing extreme hardball or crossing the legal line/cutting corners, engaging in corrupt practices, and the like. This would be in stark contrast to at least a couple of dubious types who were their contemporaries — Nixon and LBJ — where we have plenty of evidence and testimony to suggest an ability to commit dark crimes.
So, pending further clarification from Ptaah, preferably in a friendly Q & A session here taking no more than an hour or two of his time, and with all due respect to his prior impressive credibility (except maybe on crop circles), I’m going to continue to remain skeptical on some of his answers in this category.
Here is more of what Ptaah told Meier about Hitler, his death, etc.:
http://www.theyfly.com/Human_Animal.html
Considering their track record, I’ll go with Ptaah’s information. And, considering the other information in this contact about genetic engineering, cloning, brain transplants, etc. – all told to Meier in the 1940s-50s by Sfath – I don’t think I’ll bother the Plejaren with an invitation for cross-examination.
They didn’t include the conspiracy that Hitler was mind influenced (controlled in soundness of mind) by a group of extraterrestrials (Bafath or Giza intelligences) and that the Plejaren had been aware of this group operating on Earth for some 70 thousand years but were not permitted to do anything about it, that the Plejaren had to allow the second world war to occur and play out exactly as it did, the further conspiracy is that the Plejaren gave the plans to the beamship to some scientists after the Bafath had offered theirs during the war but saw that they were weaponising them so had to discontinue the impulses to the scientists involved with the projects, this is where the Bafath and Plejaren stories overlap and where the ashtar command story by Ptaah comes into a conspiratorial framework. Thank you goodbye
Daniel,
It’s not like the two alleged ETs groups mentioned have an embassy we can protest in front of. How one goes about and determines accountability is vastly different than what the majority take for “evidence” and blame groups (whether they be specific people or government agencies/entities) and when the alleged Ptaah provide the above and mention folks specifically. If people want a better world they cannot take short cuts when they view history. It’s apologetic and most people are basically apologists looking to confirm or deny whether something is true or not … and not whether the reality they live in is in fact truly lived or not. Without that stumbling block surmounted people will continuously find endless ways to blame giant conspiratorial groups that in the end make no sense and lead to no certain future or progress.
Hello Ned, true what you say about the complexities of justice and interesting that develop an interesting analogy where you essentially say we cannot ever use the n-word because that is disrespectful unless we are talking about the countries Nigeria or Niger in west Africa where then we can providing the pronunciation has been correct.
You’re free to disagree with what Ptaah presented, but why get so defensive of your belief that the conspiracy should be so fantastical?
Line 141 should read (41,000 feet or 7.77 miles in altitude) according to my maths.
Yes, it should be 7.767 miles. Don’t know where they got the 1.24 miles from. That would only be 1995.6 meters.
Hello Michael,
In that contact report did Ptaah mention the conspiracy that we live for only a short time and so don’t enough of it to develop great ideas evidently but do however have a rapid material development, with consumerism and high competency make or break sort of rush to the top or race to the bottom and so on and so fourth, but that the old have become too old too quickly.
I don’t know.
I think this topic sucks, that’s my opinion. Is there a part 2 to this topic that actually has a link to it or at the least a report from the contacts?
Why such the sour attitude, Darcy? Based on Billy’s, Ptaah’s and Michael’s track record and MMO, I’m confident that this information is factual and free from intentional errors. Like many other things with the Plejaren, you must look at the information in a purely logical mindset. I’m sure Michael will give us more details when they become available—patience my friend.
Melissa I sound sour because I am logical and not a believer like you are.
A believer of what, Darcy? I don’t believe or blindly follow anything. I do tons of research on everything that interests me. If I find that someone has evidence to support their claim, I dig deeper. You don’t have to insult or become defensive just because I asked you a question. A simple answer to the question would have been the logical response.
Melissa the civil war is closer than it appears.
The best evidence Billy Meier has is his knowing how to use the creative natural laws in ways no other knows. The problem is however he’s too modest and sincere. So I don’t even associate Billy Meier with the ufolology community or the paranormal community either because of these qualities he has. Yet he is more qualified to form a really profound controversy than any other, yet doesn’t get the air-time everyone else gets as I said because he’s not loud enough. Also he gets angry when individuals talk good and positively about him too because he doesn’t want to be like an entertainer or and idol or zoo animal etc. Hearing Michael Horn on the Radio is an absolute treat for the North American audiences, which I know many appreciate.
Be polite and respectful towards others man. No need to become upset because someone asked you a question.
Hi Luis,
The person you are replying to has been banned from this blog. Salome
You banned Darcy? Why?
No Sheila, although the original comment was started by Darcy, Luis hit the reply button under Daniel Leech’s comment, and he has been banned from this blog. Salome
Oh so daniel leech has come back as paul slusher has he?
Just realized I was commenting on a 2017 *facepalm*
Hi Matt, no he’s a former state dept. employee under Bill Clinton so it’s imperative for him to know that the Clinton’s aren’t that bad (they are worse). Like a true lawyer he doesn’t care about facts, only information that could help his “client/former employer”. Probably an Antifa clown as well.
https://www.contactsforless.ca/paul-w-slusher-founder-ceo/
That was funny Sheila 🙂
There is just no shortage of these fly by wire spineless cowards are there.
They stir the pot, pick their noses, come out of the toilet without washing their hands, puff on a cigarette, get on their mobile phone and babble some nonsense like a bad chef.
That made me laugh, Matt. I’ve actually been seeing a lot of folks (women in my case) not washing their hands lately. Why wouldn’t you want to wash your hands after using the restroom? I just can’t find any good reason at all.
Hi Melissa in paul slusher’s case he has definitely washed his hands alright only that he has washed his hands of all responsibilities.
Hello Melissa,
if you’re into the controversial subjects they’ve already laid them all out a long time ago and in fair detail too. These controversies listed are the man-made weak ideas as Darcy say’s, compared against the really far reaching ‘controversies’ that Ptaah, Quetzal and Semjase have revealed which appear in reality normally but which have not been discovered yet by man. We’re just procrastinating our way around and into wider audiences as a community as well as blocking off the path to the weak ideas, you need not wait, its all already written down. As Billy said “besides [that], many of these conspiracy theories were unknown to me [having explored most of them already]”
Not that I agree with the topic sucks but conspiracy theories are rabbit holes, much like politics. Then again, my personal interest has even lost touch with UFOs as well. The wealth of knowledge Eduard puts in his spirit teaching books is exceptional and in my opinion, dwarves everything else.
I missed the conspiracy-theory about Hillary Clinton, if she should win the election she could start WWIIII.
That’s not really a conspiracy theory. It’s more like just a simple evaluation of character.
I watched that woman cackle at the deaths her administration had caused. It was played up like typical American entertainment, but a moment to think about it, if you or I were indirectly or directly responsible for the deaths of thousands or hundreds or even dozens or even a SINGLE human in order to catch some boogey criminal … well, could you or I sit on television and cackle like it was just another day at the golf course?
Damn man, if I even post too much truth information in the ‘net, I lose sleep at night afraid that the people who might find it are not ready for the truth yet.
And Obama also went totally grey-haired during his time in presidency.
The fact that Hillary Clinton still looks like a pretty posey (well, not really beautiful, but still not showing too many signs of stress-aging) despite all her errors and the crimes against humanity she has either indirectly or directly been responsible for … or signed off or simply advocated or whatever …. I just invite you to look at the discussion between Billy and Ptaah on the qualifying unvalues of a psychopath.
Alex Jones commented that Hillary and her gang are pure evil and movie actor Randy Quaid blames her for his homelessness and calls her a “Star Whacker” for other actors deaths.
Way off-topic.
Be kind.
Be on-topic.
Hello Michael Horn, please forgive me that I am off topic here but I have felt the urge to share this with you! I have recently come apon this video by the title of – “Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.” on YouTube uploaded by the user who goes by the name of “Rick Maarhuis” who degenerately and rudely claims to have “hooked up” (as awful and perverted as it sounds) with Semjase for contact spiritually, as a matter of fact it would be better if everyone on this blog including you yourself Michael to take a look at and report this video uploaded by Rick and others I’ve also added below. This video is just awful and also there is a rediculous claim within the comment section on this video (“Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.”) posted by the user of the name “Vrendus522” that is just downright unbelievably delusional and so on, my oh my wait until you see it. And I would like add that there are 2 remote viewing videos uploaded by the “Edward Riordan” conducting UNAUTHORIZED remote viewing experiments/targets into Meier’s contact meetings WITHOUT ANY consent/permission from you yourself Michael, the FIGU community and Eduard whatsoever! And my final link for this concern of Rob Potter’s erroneous imaginary claim about himself and Fred Bell having contact experiences with Semjase. This is an unbelievable and pitiful disgrace! Links below! I feel that I have an obligation to inform you Mr. Horn and FIGU to the concerns of these types of individuals.
Link 1: “Effects from Alien Remote Viewing Plejaren, Semjase.” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mkX376Bmho&t=1s
Link 2: “Remote Viewing Session: Billy Meier UFO” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dAaNL-bsWM
Link 3: “Remote Viewing Session: Alleged Energy Weapon, Billy Meier UFO” -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw93C5MtqRI
Link 4: “With Rob Potter(part 1/3)- Dr.Fred Bell, Billy Meier, Semjase, space ships;” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBP2F9vq-jk
Hi Jason,
There’s a book with a title something (or exactly) like “What You Think of Me Is None of My Business”.
People are free to do what they want. I’ll approve these two posts, however, I’ll ask you to not post links to all the nonsense that’s online, like about fake contactees, remote viewing stuff, etc. It is off-topic and doesn’t warrant discussion.
My mistake here is the full link to the “Remote Viewing Session: Alleged Energy Weapon, Billy Meier UFO” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw93C5MtqRI&t=353s
It seems at least im not the only one wondering about the info in this post. I remember Michael Horn himself saying in a video that the german nazi’s in ww2 developed a true ufo. a magnetic implosion device. Do you remember saying that in a video Mr. Horn. i can and am wondering why you did not elaborate that in this post. Is it not listed becuase it would take to much time to list every little detail. Also there does seem to be a plan by political/ religous globalists like george soros to flood western countries with third world refugees. He may be a radical zionist like billy meier warned of . A type of religous radical . The average isralei doesnt want to destroy europe or the west. But radicals like george soros are another story, isnt that what billy meier mentioned in his notes? Doesnt it seem george soros and his open border freinds are trying to have third worlders pick up and leave the middle east altogether and go to europe , U.S. etc. And at the same time I read how Rabbi’s are saying publicly , europe is lost and our people should move to israel. It’s like a radical zionist plan to expand israels influence and borders around israel by sending their muslim neighbors to europe, U.S , Canada etc. Radicals like george soros are dangerous but regualr , everyday jewish people are good. Isnt that what is said in the notes somewhere?