The Plejaren reveal the true and false conspiracies over the last 1,000 years
Ptaah
49. Which I can understand very well.
50. But now I want to mention the list you copied from “Wikipedia,” starting with the oldest – up to the latest – officially known conspiracy theory.
51. Those that effectively correspond only to illusory theories, I will simply label FALSE, while one thing must be labeled and explained as TRUE that corresponds to the facts.
52. So the following applies to the conspiracy theories listed below:
This list lists conspiracy theories of recent centuries. It contains confirmed and refuted but also unclear theories that deal with religious, political, cultural or everyday-cultural conspiracies. This list is not intended to be exhaustive.
12th Century
Blood libel: 1144 is the first time it was claimed that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child in order to murder it on Passover in a secret ritual.
53. FALSE
14th Century
Well poisoning: Particularly during the great plague epidemics of the 14th century, social marginalized groups, mostly Jews, were accused of having caused the epidemic to destroy Christianity by poisoning the public wells.
54. FALSE
15th Century
Witchcraft: The popular belief that natural disasters and illnesses are actually caused by black magic spellcasters (witches) was accepted by theologians in the 15th century and developed into an imagination of a secret witch sect in covenant with the devil, which led to persecution of alleged witches for centuries.
55. FALSE
16th Century
Exeter conspiracy: King Henry VIII. was supposed to be murdered to undo the Reformation.
56. FALSE
17th Century
Popish Plot: Catholics allegedly wanted to murder King Charles II.
57. FALSE
17th/18th Century
Man in the iron mask: Person close to King Louis XIV.
58. TRUE
59. The mysterious prisoner was the twin brother of the’ Sun King’, Louis XIV, born secretly in 1643 and deceased in 1703.
19th Century
1. Dunkelgrafen: Among the mysterious inhabitants of Eishausen Castle was allegedly the daughter of the executed French king Louis XVI.
60. FALSE
2.Flat-Earth-Society-hypothesis: The Flat Earth Society’s hypothesis still propagates today that the Earth is a disc.
61. FALSE
3. The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser: The foundling Kaspar Hauser, who was born in 1812, was the hereditary prince to the Grand Duchy of Baden.
62. FALSE
4. World Jewry: Jews allegedly want to seize world domination.
63. FALSE
5. Conspiracy of the Bahai: As Zionists or spies, Bahai want to destroy either the state of Iran or the entire Islam.
64. FALSE
6. Conspiracy theories around Jack the Ripper: The search for the true identity of Jack the Ripper left room for speculation; for example, that he was a secret child of Queen Victoria.
65. FALSE
66. Jack the Ripper was a man named Thomas Neill Cream, a trained physician who, after several murders, was arrested, accused, sentenced to death and hanged in 1892.
67. At the same time, a second man, who came from the royal house of Queen Victoria, was also involved in the same mischief, but was never caught because he ended his murders again.
7. Taxil hoax: Alleged eyewitnesses reported of Satanic rites of the Freemasons.
68.FALSE
8. Know Nothing Party rumors: Catholic immigration had served the Pope to undermine the values of the United States, so that a papal army could land in America and found a new Vatican in Cincinnati.
69. FALSE
20th Century
1. Agent theory: Adolf Hitler’s actions were guided by the economy.
70. FALSE
2. HIV/AIDS denialism: Allegedly there is no causal connection between HIV viruses and the immunodeficiency disease AIDS.
71. FALSE
3. AIDS from the US laboratory: HIV is said to have been developed by the US and been exposed or escaped.
72. FALSE
73. AIDS is attributed to the species of monkey Chlorocebus, which were abused by irresponsible and deviant people through sodomistic actions, which enabled the transmission of the immunodeficiency epidemic to humans on Earth.
74, However, the plague already existed on Earth 11,000 years ago in the case of the Chlorocebus, whereby in later millennia the plague was transmitted on the chimpanzee subspecies “Pan troglodytes troglodytes” (Note: central chimpanzee).
4. Amero: The governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico are said to be planning a North American monetary union.
75. FALSE
5. Area 51: The facility deals or communicates with extraterrestrial life forms.
76. FALSE
6. Doctors’ Plot: Soviet Union physicians allegedly planned attacks on high-ranking representatives of their country; see also Rooted Cosmopolitan.
77. FALSE
7. Assassination of Martin Luther King: The assassination of Martin Luther King was carried out or planned by the US government.
78. FALSE
8. Nijvel Gang conspiracy: The attacks carried out by the Nijvel Gang were a preventive strike against communism in Western Europe.
79. FALSE
9. Barschel affair: Former Prime Minister Uwe Barschel was found dead after an unusually tough election campaign against his rival.
80. TRUE
10. Bilderberg conference: The participants of the Bilderberg conference are said to be planning a world dictatorship or are the masterminds behind events steeped in history, such as the Iraq war.
82. FALSE
83. The Bilderberger conferences are not aimed at a world dictatorship, but at economic, political, military and secret service planning and machinations that are absolutely informal and are described as private and, as far as possible, kept secret.
84. The meetings bring together influential people from business, military, politics, media, academia, universities, high nobility, secret services and Christian churches.
85. At the conferences, they exchange views on current political, economic and social issues, as well as make decisions on political, military, intelligence, economic and Christian-religious leadership, etc. – some of which will be detrimental to the populations of the countries concerned – but also on the population and the economy of the countries concerned, etc.
86. The conference was initiated in May 1954 at the invitation of Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.
87. At that time, the conference was held at his own hotel “de Bilderberg” in Oosterbeek in the Netherlands, after which the name Bilderberg was adopted for these conferences.
88. The original and first reason for the first meeting was based on the fear that Western Europe and North America would not cooperate as closely as they urgently needed.
89. At least at that time this was the opinion, which has apparently been preserved to this day, that secret decisions are being thought up and made again and again, which are also directed against Russia, among other things.
90. And since everything is secret, the’ Bilderbergers’ are surrounded by various conspiracy theories.
11. Chemtrails: Condensation trails allegedly contain chemicals that affect the population.
91. FALSE
92. Condensation trails are visible long white stripes, which are caused by water vapor and other exhaust gases, especially in the wake of aircraft. These white stripes are formed especially behind high-flying jet planes when the humidity in the aircraft exhaust gases condenses.
93. These long “strip clouds” or condensation trails have nothing to do with the conspiracy theory regarding “chemtrails,” which are also referred to as “chemical strips,” “poison strips” or “toxic clouds,” and which are intended to correspond to the deliberate release of chemicals into the atmosphere.
94. According to the nonsensical conspiracy theory, airplanes are said to spray chemicals on behalf of states in order to change the weather and climate, poison people or otherwise influence world events, which is nothing more than absolute nonsense.
12. Chronology criticism: Certain sections of the historiography or calendar were erroneous or deliberately falsified.
95. FALSE
13. Chronovisor: The Vatican is or was allegedly in possession of a time machine.
96. FALSE
14. Stab-in-the-back myth: The defeat of the German military in World War I was caused by opposition civilians.
97. FALSE
15. Estonia conspiracy: Estonia’s demise was the result of an assassination attempt.
98. FALSE
16. Rumor of Orléans: In the French city of Orléans, 28 young women were allegedly kidnapped and forced into prostitution.
99. FALSE
17. Greater Israel conspiracy: According to the doctrine, Israel plans to extend Jewish sovereignty to the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
100. FALSE
18. GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen: The GSG-9 mission in Bad Kleinen, in which the RAF terrorist Wolfgang Grams was killed, gave rise to numerous conspiracy theories.
101. FALSE
102. All conspiracy theories regarding this have no truth content.
19. HAARP conspiracy: The US-American research program HAARP is said to have been used to manipulate thoughts or to artificially induce natural disasters.
103. FALSE
104. TRUE is however:
105. The HAARP can have many harmful effects on living beings through vibrations, cause electromagnetic and weather-related disturbances, bring military benefits in a variety of ways, as well as negative atmospheric influences, but in absolutely no way manipulate thoughts.
106. The large antenna system of HAARP shoots energy rays at the sky, which are reflected back by the ionosphere as electric waves of an extremely low frequency (ELF), whereby these waves can then be transformed into an insidious weapon, which is officially denied however.
20. Holocaust denial: The National Socialists’ Holocaust never existed.
107. FALSE
21. Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870 conspiracy: The plane was shot down by French or US planes, all the passengers died. The unknown attackers allegedly assumed that the plane was an aircraft in which Muammar al-Gaddafi was traveling.
108. FALSE
22. Mount Yamantau conspiracy: Russian mountain Yamantau is said to have a gigantic underground complex that is being used for military purposes.
109. FALSE
23. Assassination of John F. Kennedy: The assassination is not the work of a single perpetrator but of a conspiracy; the mafia, the CIA or Fidel Castro are postulated as its mastermind.
110. TRUE
111. Harvey Oswald, who was under the influence of several groups, was not the direct assassin but only one of three other men who were controlled by an interest group involving the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, a pro-Cuban group, oil barons and the military-industrial complex.
24. Alternative theories for Korean Air Lines flight 007: An aircraft, which was accidentally shot down by the Soviet Union, was classified as a threat according to official information. Theories say that Soviet air traffic control should be tested. Other assumptions suggest that survivors of the accident are imprisoned.
112. FALSE
25. Leningrad affair: Supporters of the Leningrad party system of CPSU were allegedly involved in criminal machinations.
113. FALSE
26. Phantom time hypothesis: Larger periods of medieval history were invented.
114. FALSE
27. Death of John Paul I: John Paul I had been poisoned because he probably wanted to uncover the Vatican’s internal machinations.
115. TRUE
116. John Paul I died of poisoning, causing the heart to stop functioning, which then gave the impression of heart failure.
117. He was murdered because he shocked the noble rule of the Vatican and because his behavior and way of life in the Vatican provoked an impulse.
28. Lusitania conspiracy: The sinking of the ship by a German submarine is said to have been deliberately brought about in order to stir up resentment against Germany towards the US population.
118. FALSE
29. Majestic 12 Committee: The US Secret Committee is concerned with the work of UFOs and extraterrestrials.
119. FALSE
30. Men in Black: Secret US government officials dressed in black ensure that mysterious sightings do not produce testimonies.
120. FALSE
121. Men in Black’ have nothing to do with US government officials, because this is a pure fantasy, unlike the’ Black Men’ who belonged to a group of people who were anxious to destroy the FIGU mission, including assassination attempt at that.
31. Moon landing conspiracy theories: NASA allegedly never landed on the moon between 1969 and 1972, and it was only faked.
122. FALSE
123. Apart from the allegedly first moon landing of Apollo 11 in 1969, which was fraudulently staged on Earth as a “real moon landing” and in the execution of which the participants were hypnotized and deceived, all other moon flights and moon landings actually took place.
124. The first and fraudulent and alleged lunar expedition, which was broadcast worldwide by television, was carried out for political reasons in order to put Russia behind the USA in terms of space technology and so-called space travel.
32. Death of Marilyn Monroe: Marilyn Monroe is said to have been killed by an American secret service because she had an affair with John F. Kennedy.
125. FALSE
126. Marilyn Monroe was murdered by Monroe psychiatrist and therapist Dr. Ralph Greenson on behalf of the brothers John Fitzgerald and Robert Kennedy in the night from August 4 to 5,1962, with an injection of chloral hydrate into the anus, which is why a puncture wound was not found anywhere on the body.
33. Montauk Project: In the Montauk project, the US military tried to control or influence the thoughts of civilians between 1970 and 1990.
127. FALSE
34. Elvis Presley’s afterlife: Elvis Presley did not die in 1977, but continued to live under exclusion of the public.
128. FALSE
35. New world order: Secret societies allegedly attempt to seize world domination.
129. FALSE
130. In modern times from 1844 onwards, there was no known or unknown organization apart from the USA and Hitler that tried to seize world domination.
131. Even today, apart from the USA, there is no state and no secret or well-known organization that claims world power.
36. Oklahoma Connection: The bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was supported by Islamists.
132. FALSE
37. Paul is dead: Paul McCartney of The Beatles died in 1966 and was then replaced by a doppelganger.
133. FALSE
38. Attack on Pearl Harbor: The US government or the US military allegedly knew about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor, but did nothing, in order to be able to lead a public cause of war.
From the translator: “So in whole, the sentence states that the US knew about the attack, but they decided not to do anything to prevent it, so that they would be able to give the public a reason to justify a war (and therefore push forward their own hidden agenda).”
134. FALSE
39. Philadelphia Experiment: A US military experiment allegedly led to the disappearance of a warship and its teleportation to another location.
135. FALSE
136. Such an experiment has never been carried out in the United States or anywhere else on Earth.
137. A book writer by the name of Berlitz only wrote a fantastical story in this regard, based on the fraudulent allegations of a man named Kal Allen.
40. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: The protocols pretend to be secret documents of Jewish world conspirators.
138. FALSE
41. Coup d’état against the government of Mossadegh: The coup against the Iranian government of Mossadegh was long regarded as a conspiracy theory until it was admitted by the US government in 2013 (Operation Ajax).
139. TRUE
42. Nazi UFOs: The Third Reich owned a futuristic aircraft.
140. TRUE
141. The Nazi Reich developed disc-shaped aircraft that went around 2000 km/h (1243 mph) and reached an altitude of over 12500 meters (1.24 miles).
142. These flying discs, however, were single-wing aircraft of a completely different nature than normal winged aircraft.
43. Reichsbürgerbewegung: The German Reich continues to exist legally to this day, whereas the Federal Republic of Germany is illegal. A provisional Reich government would exercise jurisdiction over the German Reich within the borders of 1937.
143. FALSE
44. Reptiloids: Reptiloids are human-like intelligent beings derived from reptiles or reptilian extraterrestrials. They had infiltrated the earth and were part of a secret pyramid-like organizational structure.
144. FALSE
45. Roswell UFO incident: A UFO crashed in Roswell, New Mexico.
145. TRUE
146. This crash actually took place, but for state security reasons it was declared a state secret, as a result of which all facts, reports, records and factual reports were locked up and largely lost over the decades.
46. Black Volga: Between 1960 and 1980, occupants of a black car of the brand Volga are said to have abducted and tortured children after they had asked about the time of day.
147. FALSE
47. Controversy over the seal of the United States: The seal refers to the Illuminati.
148. FALSE
48. Conspiracy for the murder of Robert F. Kennedy: The murder of the US Senator Robert F. Kennedy shows some inconsistencies with respect to the alleged perpetrator Sirhan Sirhan.
149. TRUE
150. There are indeed some inconsistencies in relation to the person of Sirhan Sirhan as a result of careless investigations, but it is undoubtedly clear that he was the true perpetrator.
49. Support of the Bolsheviks by the economy of the German Empire: The Sisson documents allegedly prove that the German Empire supported Russian revolutionaries financially.
151. TRUE
152. For years the Empire supported the Bolsheviks with money, weapons and logistics.
50. Skull & Bones: The student fraternity is not only concerned with occultism and Satanism, but also has contacts with the CIA.
153. FALSE
51. Slav Legend: Slavs in the east of today’s Germany were supposedly Germans from the Middle Ages onwards who decided against Christianization.
154. FALSE
52. Order of the Solar Temple conspiracy: The radical organization of the Sun Templars was allegedly infiltrated by right-wing extremism.
155. FALSE
53. Death of Lady Di: The accident that led to Diana’s death was caused by the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).
156. FALSE
54. 1999 Russian apartment bombings: The perpetrator of the bomb attacks is unclear and leaves room for speculation.
157. FALSE
158. The bomb attacks were the work of the Russian secret service FSB.
55. Sinking of the RMS Titanic: Allegedly not the Titanic, but her sister ship Olympic sank.
159. FALSE
56. Vril Society: The Vril Society was able to revive National Socialism with supernatural methods.
160. FALSE
57. Fire at the Waco siege: The FBI was responsible for a fire caused during the siege of a Branch Davidians compound. The fire killed a double-digit number of people, including children.
161. FALSE
58. Tupac Shakur’s death: Tupac Shakur is said to have been killed by the US government; alternatively, his death is only faked.
162. FALSE
59. Zionist Occupied Government: A right-wing extremist conspiracy theory states that all important government posts are occupied by Jews.
163. FALSE
21st Century
1. 9/11 conspiracy theories: The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 are alleged to have been either knowingly allowed by US intelligence agencies or executed by the US secret services themselves.
164. FALSE
165. The US president and secret services had only speculations and vague statements about imminent attacks on the US by anti-American Islamic terrorists, but had no knowledge of how, when and where they would take place.
2. MASCAL conspiracy: In 2000, an exercise called Project MASCAL dealt with the accident in which a plane crashed into the Pentagon. One of the participants then worked for American Airlines.
166. FALSE*
3. Death of Jürgen Möllemann: It is not proven whether the politician killed himself, but there was also speculation about a murder.
167. FALSE
168. Jürgen Möllemann committed suicide.
4. Conspiracy theories on the 2004 Madrid train bombings: The Basque terrorist organization ETA is said to be behind the attacks.
169. FALSE
170. The train attacks in the Spanish capital Madrid were attributed to Islamic terrorist acts.
5. Death of Jörg Haider: The Austrian politician is said to have been murdered.
171. FALSE
6. 2016 Turkish coup d’état attempt: One theory says that the Gülen movement and the “Deep State” carried out the coup attempt.
172. FALSE
Another theory says that the coup attempt was staged by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
173. TRUE
174. This, Eduard, is so far as the facts that Penta and I have been able to find with regard to the conspiracy theories listed in the list for the period from the 12th to the 21st century.
Billy This is more than I expected, and besides, many of these conspiracy theories were unknown to me, not even that there have been conspiracy theories dating back to the 12th century. Only by a reference over the phone did I become acquainted with the fact of this list.
Ptaah
175. We never talked about old conspiracy theories either.
Billy We didn’t, no. And now, as I said, I have only found the list because someone told me something about it.
*16 Years Later – It WAS a Plane
Recently released photos appear to corroborate what Billy Meier was told by the Plejaren regarding the object that crashed into the Pentagon. It was a plane.
Some people were very upset by what Meier said, to the point that they thought it brought the whole case into question. While the more conspiratorial approach was/is more popular, it doesn’t accord with the information from the Plejaren.
Thanks to Stefan Mitterdorfer for the translation.
It’s good that the P’s cleared up some of these conspiracy theories (even if I do not agree with 9/11 WTC7 being left out). I appreciate it and hope they would do more.
The primary attack targets were the WTC and the Pentagon, which were hit by the planes. Building7 wasn’t, to the best of my knowledge.
As is almost always the case, the Plejaren pretty much stick to answer the direct question directly, only occasionally adding more information if it’s extremely relevant to the answer.
MH, conspiracy theorists say that WTC7 is the smoking gun that 9/11 was an inside job. Even if WTC 1&2 and the Pentagon was caused by terrorists/planes but WTC7 was brought down by the US government, CIA, ect, then part of 9/11 should be regarded as an inside job because WTC7 was part of 9/11. That’s why I feel the question should be asked to Billy or the P’s “what brought down WTC7”.
Don’t you think them answering more of these conspiracy theories is pretty much a waste of time? What benefit does it give you in the longrun, really? I stick to the opinion that this was a gracious, unnecessary gesture on their part. Heck, even a question about Tupac got shoved in there. Gracious imo.
Like a few others here, I find some of Ptaah’s answers in this entry confusing and at odds with prior contact information. In a few areas, namely answers re things Kennedy, I find the responses rather incredible. (Disclosure: having studied both men considerably over the years, I find both rank very high in my estimation both as public servants and as ethical human beings.)
On the RFK assassination: Sirhan was shooting, but did not fire the fatal shot; impossible from where he was standing, thus he could not be the sole perpetrator. Strong evidence also suggests he was under hypnotic influence that night. Strange, but that’s where the evidence leads.
Re the JFK assassination: It’s false and ridiculous to state a “pro-Cuban group” was involved, if that means pro-Castro. No such groups would have been in league with entities like the CIA and FBI and military, all very hostile to Castro. Was “pro-Cuban” intended to mean “anti-Castro Cuban exiles”? That would make more sense. Most of them hated Kennedy from the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
Re Hitler: Wouldn’t the more important conspiracy theory to address, out there for many years, have been whether he and Eva and a small inner circle were allowed by our security services (OSS) to escape from Berlin? When you read the actual record, far more evidence suggests a successful escape to South America than the scant and suspect evidence — mostly from Hitler loyalists with strong motives to lie — suggesting he died in the bunker. See for instance the intriguing book Gray Wolf, by Gerrard Williams.
Would Ptaah be willing to stop by at this site for a Q & A session to clarify some of these matters?
Again, our study of public figures may be only partially correct because we may not be, in fact most certainly are not, in the possession of the full facts of their very carefully protected, often rewritten lives.
If Sirhan was “under hypnotic influence” and still shot RFK, then the answer seems correct…absent actual proof to the contrary.
The Plejaren long ago confirmed that Hitler and Eva died in the bunker. Let’s remember that he was addressing a number of “conspiracy theories”. We are free to accept or reject his viewpoint…but relying on conspiracy theories – which by definition are NOT proven facts – isn’t productive.
RFK: “but it is undoubtedly clear that he was the true perpetrator.” This implies he was the proximate cause for Kennedy’s death, the one who fired the fatal shot. Again, he was shooting, but none of the witnesses in the pantry (dozens) put him close enough to RFK or in the right position. The coroner conclusively concluded Kennedy died as a result of a shot from contact/near contact range (2 inches at most) behind the right ear. Sirhan was off to the side 6-8 feet away when firing, facing Kennedy to his right. No witness stated his gun was extended closer than 3 feet from the victim — impossible to shoot him behind the right ear from his front/side position. Autopsy professionally done — confirmed as such by an outside expert brought in (Dr Cyril Wecht) by the LA coroner to avoid any doubts like those which occurred in the JFK autopsy.
Sorry, but I disagree w/Ptaah here, based on the known facts, and I hope Ptaah doesn’t take it personally.
Ditto for the Hitler bunker theory, again based on established fact not speculation, as detailed in the Gray Wolf book I cited. The evidence for Hitler and Eva suicide is actually very weak once all facts are considered, and as there is no physical evidence, we are left to rely on his loyalists’ testimony. I don’t find Nazis and the SS very credible and they all had a strong motive to lie as Hitler and entourage escaped. Eisenhower, Stalin and his military adviser, our FBI director and Truman’s top military aide also believed he got out of Berlin. The rather thin book quickly written by Hugh Trevor-Roper, a young MI6 officer who spoke no German, was very short on facts but long on a desire to convince the public of the suicide story, and it was sold rather effectively. HT-R, btw, also believed in the authenticity of the so-called Hitler Diaries of the early 80s, an embarrassing hoax he endorsed as fact.
No doubt the Plejaren and Billy have an outstanding track record in predictions/prophecies, but as they themselves acknowledge, they sometimes make mistakes. I’m putting a few of these conspiracy answers into the 1-2% of material in this case which I reserve judgment on pending further clarification from the Ps.
Well, it’s entirely possible Adolf could have escaped but chose not to and accept the fate that he felt destined to live in the end to. After all, the Bafath, which you’re not going to find in any book detailing the life of Adolf Hitler, influenced the man in such a way he became a world craving man that would lead to the destruction of Germany. Even to the very end the man was unwavering until all hope was lost.
Also, one must also consider the roving science lab experiments we call “foo fighters” or U-F-Ohs didn’t win Hitler’s war in the end.
“pending further clarification from the ps”
Dont forget these space-traveling-dimension-shifting friends of ours most likely have far more important duties to attend to.
J/s
Never hurts to ask. Plus I figured Ptaah might get the occasional few hours off, maybe on a weekend, and decide to pay us a visit here.
Anyway thx to Michael for bringing the prior Hitler bunker info to me, which I wasn’t aware of. In MH’s honor as an excellent rep for this case, and in honor of Billy, Ptaah and his colleagues, I’m going to move the Hitler suicide case from my Escaped box into my ? box.
You can also consider a possible confusion of Hitler with one of his dopplegangers. IF there is any evidence of someone escaping the fuhrer bunker that’s also a possibility that people largely forget about or don’t consider. It’s like when someone mentions thermite they toss everything else out and become distracted. Or, if they focus on trails on a plane they throw everything else out about the atmosphere and the junk we’ve polluted over the last century.
It’s harder today to see things for what they are as someone is telling you the truth from speculation rather than let the evidence speak for itself. I also mention UF-Ohs as folks generally are interested in such a curious piece of technology without realizing such a device in the context of WW2 did, quite frankly, nothing to win Adolf’s war. Additionally, if what the P’s say is correct (in that they had to correct their mistake and remove their impulses for the type of craft they though would bring world peace) then the craft people are curious over is really a lemon.
One of Hitler’s dopplegangers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Weler
Some folks care way too much about conspiracies and not enough about spiritual truth 🙁
Ptaah’s clarifications are sufficient I would say, they were matter of fact, so about 87% of the “officially known conspiracy theory” are false. What are unofficial conspiracy theories?
Ptaah 175.We never talked about old conspiracy theories either.
My theory respectively on the “old conspiracy theories”…are perhaps in reference to past Epoch’s conspiracy theories in older star systems.
the conspiracies of our time, small time window, then a new folk will rise up and into the new arrangement of conspiracies after the genetics have changed back and the space age started, hotels on asteroids etc. They will have a different arrangement of variety in their conspiracies than we have in ours. I suppose if we were brutally critical of ourselves we could call our conspiracies basic compared to theirs but we should not be so harsh on ourselves we are just working with the arrangement of events characteristic of our time.
I’ll speak briefly on behalf of those which were upset by what Ptaah explained about various events surrounding 11/9/01 and say ‘we’ are still disappointed, even though I have personally no interest in this anymore, the documentaries were thorough, it will not satisfy everyone we must understand. However if the truth is far too much credit was given to the abilities of the authorities then that is the truth we ought respect because it will give us further access to the wider truth knowing that. If one were to watch these video clips back with a clear mind, I will regretfully admit the conspiracy theorists may, probably because of the new Internet we’ve never had before, have over, way over-inflated and deluded the whole event into utter oblivion and into abyss of what the reality was on that day, sorry I just had to say that.
Thank you Michael for translating this.
Actually the translation was by Stefan Mitterdorfer.
That’s one of if not the biggest issues with conspiracies and conspiracy enthusiasts. They bloat it to fantastical and over complex, over imaginative ideas that the truth itself is too boring to accept over their beliefs.
I remember reading somewhere and correct me please if I am mistaken, but didn’t Billy say that the Americans had to let this happen or they would be using their money to roll cigarettes with.
In around 2006, Meier said that the US-Iraq war was fundamentally about the US dollar, not oil per se, and if things went a certain way, we may as well roll cigarettes with our paper money.
About HAARP; it is not the same thing they said about it in 1998:
http://www.theyfly.com/Unknown_Dangers_of_HAARP.htm
Back then they said natural desasters can be and are caused by it.
The answer is pretty much the same, though the damage by now is worse:
105. The HAARP can have many harmful effects on living beings through vibrations, cause electromagnetic and weather-related disturbances, bring military benefits in a variety of ways, as well as negative atmospheric influences, but in absolutely no way manipulate thoughts.
Thank You!
But what I meant is that in 1998 they have also said this:
“Presently, the HAARP installation is only being used for modest testing yet climatic disturbances are already occurring worldwide which can no longer be disregarded. These facts do not seem to greatly trouble those people, or their followers, who are in charge of the HAARP program. They even deny that natural disasters now occurring on a global scale have anything to do with their dangerous experiments. The Pleiadians/Plejarans insist, however, that there is indeed a direct link between the environmental pollution and destruction, and the global warming. Even though the HAARP tests are still at a low level, the program is already triggering floods, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and stormy weather conditions.”
And Now they are saying this:
“”101. FALSE
102. All conspiracy theories regarding this have no truth content.
19. HAARP conspiracy: The US-American research program HAARP is said to have been used (to manipulate thoughts or) to ARTIFICIALLY INDUCE NATURAL DISASTERS.
103. FALSE”
Which one is it?
In 1998 they have said it can and does, now they are saying it can not.
So, can HAARP cause natural disasters or not?
Thank You!
It looks like the Plejaren are referring to the intent of HAARP scientists to manipulate the weather.
Perhaps the natural disasters are a consequence of HAARP and not its intended purpose?
Hi Michael
Interesting, thought provoking piece. I was going to raise with you the apparent contradiction on Pearl Harbour with previous contact notes, but I see the issue has already been raised.
It’ll be good to have that cleared up.
Kind regards
Jonathan
I am trying to get clarification now.
I think it has to do with how literal the questions are being read. With that in mind I don’t see a contradiction but rather specific answers to specific questions even if the questions themselves have “US government or the US military” which paints a very large net and folks are assuming general responsibility for actions through the office or seat of power itself. It’s like asking if the office itself is responsible in which case it would be no.
It’s also why the answers to the other questions have people thinking (which is good). This one is another good example:
“17. Greater Israel conspiracy: According to the doctrine, Israel plans to extend Jewish sovereignty to the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
100. FALSE”
It should be pretty clear under the same logic the questions being answered why the majority of these are false.
Now the real tosser is this line:
“43. Reichsbürgerbewegung: The German Reich continues to exist legally to this day, whereas the Federal Republic of Germany is illegal. A provisional Reich government would exercise jurisdiction over the German Reich within the borders of 1937.”
I agree with you again Ned. Here is a translation of what Ned just said for anyone who didn’t understand him.
I sat on the bench
FALSE
Actually it was just hovering my bottom over it which was quite an uncomfortable position to hold for that minute while the world was watching but it looked like I was sitting from a distance even though actually technically I wasn’t, so I said false, and without this extra detail you would not ask any more questions would you. That is why when I worded the initial paragraph I omitted all the details so you got the history not the histories.
You can believe what you want and quite frankly it’s your responsibility (not mine). I don’t know why you take what Ptaah says personally but that’s not a problem I’m going to solve for you.
Yes that’s what we have both agreed there Ned
MH,
Do you know if there is anything mentioned in the contact reports about who actually had shot and killed the former US president John F. Kennedy? And if the answer is “no” then could you please ask Billy about this?
Michael,
There isn’t anything to me knowledge and I don’t think that Meier would answer that now, if he even knows.
I have to disagree with the 9/11 prior knowledge thing. Building 7 definitely came down under controlled demolition, something that requires months of planning. After repeatedly watching videos of the towers coming down, it also seems clear to me that thermite and explosives were used. Not to mention the rushed site cleanup and the botched investigation. I have no doubt that planes crashed into the buildings, but they were not the cause of the collapsing buildings.
I have been and avid follower of the Meier case for approximately 9 or 10 years now and only 2 things have lead me to doubt the case (9/11 conspiracy being one of them). I would like to know what Ptaah’s explanations are for building 7 collapsing and why the steel cores of the towers also collapsed at close to “free fall” speeds?
You mention that the 9/11 info is one of your “doubts” and you seem to have made an academic exercise out of this one item. My premise is that if the Meier case is authentic, it’s the single most important event/true story in human history (and certainly not anything about 9/11).
Joe, the OSI investigator pointed out that the Meier case is actually…ironclad. I’ve had this article up for years, which he used to consider and research the information.
Yet the concerns about building 7, etc., and even all the answers answers about the conspiracies – which are only interesting because they are the opinion of an extraterrestrial! – are focused on, as if: “Well, of course there are tons of ETs everywhere giving their opinions on everything and here’s what I think of these, etc.”
Anyone who has any doubts about the historical significance of the singularly authentic Meier case should try to debunk the India evidence.
If they can’t, they really should be shouting about it from the rooftops, instead of focusing on far, far, far less important matters in the real and greater scheme of things.
Thanks for your reply. My use of the word “doubts” was probably a little strong (I’m not very good at expressing myself). I have been following the Meier case for some time, and from everything that I have read/ watched has lead me to believe that the Meier case is definitely genuine. But I do occasionally read some things in the contact reports that I don’t necessarily agree with or think otherwise. I guess my mistake is to assume that the “opinions of an extraterrestial” are the “be all and end all” 🙂 Mind you, because I am frustrated with the amount of social engineering that we are currently enduring, I have been reading far too many books about the “deep state” and the “shadow government” which has probably the caused me to look at too much conspiracy material. However, being a mechanical engineer, and having experience with conducting many RCA’s (Route Cause Analysis) as part of my job (far from a guru), examining the 9/11 material has made it clear to me that it was an inside job. Thanks again for your reply, and keep up the good work!
“Root cause”… My spelling is shocking…..
Hello Daniel Tope,
Ptaah was honest when he explains there was only a small prior knowledge which wasnt enough to do anything with, he is probably talking about the data collection centres which Edward Snowden took a great risk to reveal. We don’t necessarily want criminals to know that they are like a needle in a haystack and will get away with anything they want and that we rely on post event analysis and detective work as a preventative. We don’t have any fancy Plejaren style time technology or sci-fi precog crime abilities, unfortunately all we have is the reality of deterring individuals from doing it again with a hard response. They basically had to hammer down on someone the finger had to be pointed at someone and a severe punishment had to be televised for all to see, we saw that in the form of the war in the middle east of course. Yeah unfortunately the powers we have are what they are and we go to great efforts to not reveal that too much to criminals and terrorists and that is the right thing to do for the vulnerable in society.
Thanks Daniel.
It’s interesting to me that some here are upset that one or two conspiracies didn’t pan out according to their preconceived notions and/or beliefs. Early on in my research of the Meier Case, I ran into things that challenged many preconceived notions & beliefs of mine…and even today whenever something new in the case is revealed that challenges me, I see it as an opportunity to open new lines of thinking and self-discovery. I’m glad everything in the Meier Case doesn’t just reinforce my old ideas and beliefs…it helps me evolve and for that I’m grateful:)
Your first line to the full stop. That is a strange thing to admit Matthew if you think back carefully over it. Conspiracies don’t just plop out of the wind in the sky, typically they’re supported by the resulting body of alternative evidence. Second line, which you already knew, ok. They are upset because WTC7 is the first ever skyscraper to ever collapse due to some moderate office fires alone, which are typically less hot than residential fires, Ptaah has just stepped forward who these folk here have a lot of respect for and not said even one word about it, even though from now on their families lives are in danger either directly or indirectly from a normal fire which we always normally thought we’d be safe from. So now you know why they are upset.
The owner of building 7 said that they “pulled” the building, meaning deliberately demolished it.
I don’t understand what this means: “even though from now on their families lives are in danger either directly or indirectly from a normal fire which we always normally thought we’d be safe from”
The official report declares it collapsed due to fire not demolition. So if one steel frame building can, they all can, I meant that residential steel skyscrapers with families living in them, once thought very safe even if a fire burns for several days even because of the natural laws, steel the building material preference and we use for that reason can withstand even a large aircraft collision, now have to fear a fire on any floor can weaken the steel in ways we never knew were possible despite world wide testing over generations can now cause the entire building to come down, and all because Ptaah didn’t say anything about it, which is why some of them were prepared to write Billy Meier case off completely even though there was that integrity of respect there. They have to fear that a fire could in some of them go undetected if say the fire alarm was not working somewhere in the world and they sleep peacefully on the upper floors until it just comes down like WTC7, where they never had to before.
WTC7 Is the same principle as Ufos, Prophets, Extraterrestrials, Ghosts (spirits if you prefer), aliens wandering around in the dimension that makes them invisible to us etc, Any phenomenon that is apparently occurring naturally, if it happens once it can happen again, I think there is a long wordy scientific principle which explains this how if something can happen then it can be repeatable.
Actually, the owner was saying to “Pull it” in response to on-the-ground reports from fire officers about the building looking like it was coming down, i.e., pull the operation now. Seek out the full interview.
There’s also loads of info online that fully explains the “thermite”, the so-called “explosions” and what many consider “facts” are just edited excerpts of video and commentary that mislead them to a popular, sellable, idea.
If anything the above shows us that most conspiracies are hyped-up and always have been and as they make money as the idea is attractive – just not the truth. Please no-one respond and expect a response re. the “facts” about 9/11 you claim to be in possession of. Terrorists love that s**t.
A good short from John Cleese on Stupidity which applies to a lot of things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU
And another good thing on religion from a man that has no exposure to Billy Meier but just his life experience with Earth Humanity (which we all can do on our own to come to our own conclusions):
lol Ned
Thank You for those links.
Very funny and true.
lol…
Matt so you are essentially saying that osama was responsible am i correct?
Matt Lee,
No …er, what? That’s a big jump. I don’t know who was behind it.
Daniel,
I didn’t say you or I have to accept everything the Plejaren say, simply that their point of view offers a path to new ideas for ourselves, which is a good thing in my opinion. However, anyone who doubts the Meier Case based on a disagreement over something un-provable to begin with seems strange to me.
Hello, I agree with you Matthew, to me I see they’ve carefully, very meticulously laid out two side by side the Billy Meier Case and the Eduard Meier collection. Almost identitical but there’s a few little trinkets and bits, pieces such as this conspiracy document about the man made conspiracies as if we need to hear their opinion on the subject. And then another one which Michael horn doesnt deal with so often the Eduard Meier collection, a slightly different cases argueably, where they have much more far reaching controversies, such as information that can aid any individual in developing their own farsight so they no longer need to ask such questions because they can answer it themselves. It’s clear Michael has the higher quality medicine, yet he delivers the low vein narratives from time to time, but to be fair that is where the audience is, it’s where the consciousness if of 90% of the world.
Unfortunately there is a market for all this stupid conspiracy nonsense! Look at Alex Jones for example, it has made him a very rich man! Does he deserve to be rich? I think the answer is no considering that he basically hypes things up, puts fear into people’s minds, spreads disinformation and misinformation, half-truths, you name it. He’ll tell you anything but the truth! He claims to be a true American patriot, but in reality he is a phony! He is really just in it to make money! Look at his estimated net worth!
http://www.thesquander.com/alex-jones-net-worth/
Of course people like Alex Jones are going to thrive with the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Also, what one must consider is that when Alex Jones interviewed Donald Trump it obviously made his radio show more popular, which obviously means more money to him!
What was so wrong with alex Jones interviewing Trump?
I think a better question is why would Trump want to be interviewed by such a character like Alex Jones?
Matthew what is so wrong with Alex Jones is my nex inevitable question?
In my opinion, Alex Jones is a performance artist who uses conspiracy theories to spread his particular brand of paranoid ideology. Are some of the things he claims true?…probably…but I think his method of delivery is disingenuous and, at times, dangerous. There’s no ultimate message of unity or progress with Alex Jones, just division and conflict.
Matt lee, I agree with Matthew reed for whatever that is worth. But I instead make my ratings judgement in terms of entertainment vs audience participation. Because the truth can never be sold for a profit because it’s too boring for commercial resale, if the audience is ever too big unfortunately there’s some entertainment in there, I have never even listened to much of Alex jones but knowing that fact alone and the audience size I know there must surely be a smear of bs to attain such an audience following, sorry, when I say sorry I mean sorry for insulting 90% of individuals in the whole world.
WTC7 came down in complete controlled demolition fashion. Fire does NOT make all supporting structures instantly give way simultaneously like WTC7 did.
No it was not a controlled demolition.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
Do you believe that garbage “Popular Mechanics” ?
First of all, you need to first learn how to think and not continue to have a stupid and stubborn mentality. Does the way that WTC 7 collapsed bear any resemblance to a controlled demolition? Yes it does. But does it necessarily mean that the WTC 7 building itself was brought down by a controlled demolition? And the answer is obviously no.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056088/Footage-kills-conspiracy-theories-Rare-footage-shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html
David hear the sound of bombs going off?
In the 90’s I read an article in Popular Mechanics (cover story) which stated that the core of the buildings would be reinforced to withstand planes flying at 700 mph, previously only 500 mph. Concerns supposedly arose after an Egyptian sheikh tried to topple the building with explosives.
I watched the broadcast of the 9/11 events live and definitely recall the reporter saying a drone or rocket had hit the Pentagon, not a plane!
We have the department store in Madrid burning all day and the steel structure remained standing. We have the recent aparment house burning completely but not collapsing.
NYFD firemen heard multiple explosions long after the “planes” hit the buildings. During the live broadcast a reporter also said that metal of cars further away was affected (never mentioned again thereafter). The plane engines are only mounted by bolt and would have fallen off upon impact. No such engines (with correct serial no.) have been found/produced.
My first thought when seeing the first plane was that it didn’t fit into the video, as if added in later from another film or video game. The second plane was not a commercial airliner, to me it looked like a military machine. Conclusion for me: Controlled demolition, faked video material.
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Thanks.
I think you’ll find that buildings do collapse from fires:
http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/2-Buildings-Collapse-During-Massive-Fire-in-Portsmouth-NH-418837014.html
Michael those buildings are no WTCs
Larry Silverstein received a double payout from the insurance company 4.55 billion X 2. Not bad for a guy who only leased the buildings. According to my research the insurance company was strong armed by the port authority which at the time was unheard of. Wasn’t it nice of these two to split the profits?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein
Insert sarcasm after nice.
Sheila howdy nice sarcasm btw
But Sheila Clark, that does not necessarily mean that Larry Silverstein himself had anything to do with the collapse of WTC 7. What you have said is only a prime example of an individual making a lot of money from the insurance. Obviously, that does not necessarily mean that he was part of a conspiracy to bring down the WTC 7 building.
David he took out the insurance with a specific clause and so damn close to the date of the collapse.
Sure it could just be a big misunderstanding and a coincidence but to me he was prewarned by his buddies.
I agree matt lee, nice (without sarcasm) seeing your comments again btw.
Terrorism is one of the basic exclusions of all insurance. It may have been a condition of the lease agreement with the port authority though and as with everything, it can be bought at a price. Commercial insurance companies do not pay out if something happens within the first 30 days. Definitely pre-warned since Silverstein and both his son and daughter who worked at the WTC did not show up that morning. Maybe the government did not know what was going on, but somebody did.
I disagree it was an insurance job if that is what your insinuating, because it took 6 years of legal battling to get that far, it wasn’t sufficiently insured apparently, so if it was some kind of ‘job’ it was the worst most amateur insurance job in history, far from water-tight insurance policy.
Try an insurance scam. There’s no such thing as watertight insurance policies. Insurance companies will always try and get out of paying. How many people do you think didn’t realize they didn’t have flood insurance during theses hurricanes or could not purchase it in their area? $9.1 billion is overcompensation considering the buildings were never replaced – insurance companies strong-armed by the port authority, so they were obviously threatened.