Not to be outdone, the very confused leftists are also authoritarians in their own right (or left), arrogantly pushing their peculiar secular hallucinatory gospel
As previously discussed a number of times, the “go forth and multiply endlessly” crowd doesn’t cotton to anything they decide offends their imaginary Guy-in-the-Sky. The Georgia Guidestones contained, among other things, the notion that the human population should be limited to around 500,000,000 million people, which is viewed by fanatics on the religious right, i.e. the American Taliban, as an endorsement of eugenics and nefarious depopulation efforts. So, as I pointed on Twitter:
In addition to their acts of sabotage, book-burning and destruction, the voices of the American Taliban can be heard in every pandering, polarizing, politically partisan ad, evoking “God” in their appeal for votes. A whole new crop of religiously deluded, overly-ambitious, power-crazed, fearful, “true American”, sectarian fanatics, new dictators-in-waiting, are anxious to “do God’s will”, i.e. wage various kinds of war on those they view as heretics, unbelievers, blasphemers, and defilers.
They’re in a hurry to bring about the long-awaited Armageddon. But instead of a Disney version of triumph and glory, where they flutter heavenward with their non-existent Saviour, hordes of radiation-ravaged, living dead will vainly seek respite from the burning and poisoning that engulfed them, when the hurricanes, firestorms and fire cylinders also purge the earth.
And in This Corner
Not to be outdone, the very confused leftists are also authoritarians in their own right (or left), arrogantly pushing their particular secular hallucinatory gospel. (BTW, I probably should have said “two sexes” below, though they’d argue with that too.):
The insanity and hypocrisy of the left/Democrats has reached new depths of depravity, as the shameless, warmongering, Nazi-supporting, Dementia-in-chief meets Murderer-in-chief:
Politics and religion, need we say more?
AboveTopSecret Disinfo Site Still Afraid of Billy Meier!
There are plenty of shovels available to those at ATS who want to continue to dig their own, truth-avoiding graves
I recently stumbled on a link to an article about the Billy Meier contacts, on the well-known disinformation site, ATS, or AboveTopSecret. Many people familiar with the site know it’s a front for some intelligence operation that peddles disinfo, conspiracies, etc., with a particular penchant for doing all it can to try to suppress and discredit the Meier contacts.
I have a little history pertaining to some previous dealings with this site. In 2006, I was interviewed by David Burd, a reporter for Washington, D.C. radio station WTOP.
That interview resulted in some ruffled feathers at ATS, as I reported here:
“I should mention that the Above Top Secret (ATS) forum thread, in which all of the hot and heavy debating has gone on, was initiated by one, an attorney (http://www.mofo.com/attorney/individual.asp?Jaeschke8646) with the prestigious and powerful Morrison & Foerster law firm. Jaeschke initially started the thread in response to my being interviewed on WTOP news radio in Washington, D.C. and then, in a relatively short time, he suddenly accused me of not having been interviewed on the show and of submitting false proof that I was! Jaeschke went so far as to slander/libel me in an email to WTOP radio host David Burd claiming that I had “…quite a long track record of fabricating evidence, witnesses, and stories.”
(I was kicked off of the forum after I published Jaeschke’s email, with his real name and contact information there, just as he included it in his email to Burd. I didn’t know at the time that it was unacceptable but even if I had I would have still outted a slime ball who hides behind an anonymous name and slanders me, apparently with the blessing of the ATS forum itself.)
Of course, being the competent professional that he apparently is, Jaeschke failed to provide one bit of substantiation for his charges. I inquired of ATS if Jaeschke represented them in any legal capacity but they failed to reply. It appears then that, for some unknown reason, Morrison & Foerster has some interest in attempting to discredit me regarding the Meier case. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the interests of any of their rather impressive corporate clients (http://www.mofo.com/about/clientlist.html) or if it’s just a case of a guy, who should be working in the law firm’s mailroom (if at all), getting a little crazy on company time.”
It’s been many years since I was active on ATS, battling skeptics and quite accidentally outing an attorney, who was working for the site while masquerading as a UFO fan. (As I recall, Morrison & Foerster also represented some major defense industry companies, like General Electric, etc). Shortly after this bit of drama, I learned that Jaeschke was no longer working at the appropriately nicknamed MoFo law firm. Perhaps MoFo, and their clients, didn’t appreciate the unwelcome publicity.
I re-joined ATS expressly to engage with the author of the article. The fact that it somehow survived the censors, even with a link to one of my older press releases, was a minor – and temporary – miracle.
Here’s what I posted:
…and just as quickly they disappeared it:
We are reminded of Meier’s saying:
“There aren’t enough shovels to bury the truth.”
Of course, that doesn’t keep the dummies from trying, decade after decade. And there are plenty of shovels available to those at ATS who want to continue to dig their own, truth-avoiding graves.
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Yes the extremist left have lost it. When pointing out the adverse effects of the vaccine, they automatically wish sickness and death upon anyone opposing the ineffective vaccines. When mentioning the broken promise of the West regarding Russia, you are labeled a Russian bot. The US mindset has seemingly gravitated to you are either with us or against us.
Well George, I guess you might as well call me a Russian bot too:-)))
So the wolf overtakes the fox making a mess in your home. Do you invite a tiger in to solve the problem?
odd to use an animal analogy when regarding human matters. The key difference is that humans should be capable of reasoning and logic to come to a conclusion.
Odd not to understand human matters with animal references, especially one as old as I’ve referenced that is based on Earthly experiences especially with regards to matters of state craft. I don’t know why you care in the last several thousand years of Earthly government whether or not a fatuous promise is kept or not from a behind close door unofficial agreement. You should be more concerned by incompetent rulers that call for the Tiger to come in and set things in order.
You used a parable involving animal nature. The Talmud Jmmanuel is brimming with parables.
I’d be the first to admit I don’t get some of the old sayings, sorry first gen-american here.
Let’s compare some Tigers within the context of human mis-management in governance.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-09-28/milley-confirms-efforts-to-contain-chaos-in-trumps-waning-days
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/esper-new-book-milley-trump-resignation-protests-cnntv/index.html
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In contrast to Tacitus with regards to Nero:
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Tacitus/Histories/1A*.html
“Although Nero’s death had at first been welcomed with outbursts of joy, it roused varying emotions, not only in the city among the senators and people and the city soldiery, but also among all the legions and generals; for the secret of empire was now revealed, that an emperor could be made elsewhere than at Rome.”
Or, with a little more asian flair, Dong Zhuo’s similar situation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Zhuo
“Following the death of Emperor Ling of Han in 189, General-in-Chief He Jin ordered Dong Zhuo to lead troops into Luoyang to aid him in eliminating the eunuch faction known as the Ten Attendants
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In 189, Dong deposed Emperor Shao and replaced him with the Emperor Xian of Han. Dong declared himself chancellor, and became the head of the imperial court in Luoyang.”
Or this Tiger:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-authorises-military-operations-donbass-domestic-media-2022-02-24/
Thanks for the information, it clarifies your analogy.
They’ve had the “with us or against us” attitude since George dub-yah announced it when going to war with iraq.
I think it was blown up by the same people in the deep state that put it up for entertainment or something.
Also, among the Guide-Stones:
“Unite humanity with a living new language.”
Hmm…
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Yes, that is an interesting one, Rex. What amuses me most about these ex-Guidestones, or rather the conspiracy theorists who claimed they were the work of “the New World Order,” is how
numbers 5, 6, 7 and 9 would have been anathema to any wannabe world dictator or controlling bureaucratic elite — not that dark controlling human elements or a Dark Order do not exist. People are not only becoming incapable of thinking, they are becoming unable of understanding what they read and what it means.
Of course, now we know that they were created by an eccentric guy, whose name I don’t recall, and a couple of others with ties to Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry who doubtless put them up as their personal fantasized solution to the apocalypse their partly religiously deluded minds imagined.
I saw the video of the guide stones exploding, it looked more like a lightning strike to me than a chemical explosion, there is a blue hue on the frames before the rocks split apart. The people responsible would have to drill a hole in the stones to get them to fracture like that, and why choose the top? The obvious place to demolish anything would be the base, they would also be on video drilling and planting the explosive. There is videos of TNT being placed on top of a rock and detonated resulting in nothing more than a pop in open air. I have personally witness parts of buildings exploding and the debris traveling several hundred meters from a powerful lightning strike.
I think this could be clarified by checking the weather records for that date and time.
https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ga/elberton/KGSP/date/2022-7-6 At the exact time they exploded 4.03am there was thunder in the vicinity followed by a heavy thunderstorm, although there is apparently a video of someone entering and leaving the site. Either could be coincidence, if it was high explosives with a fast enough detonation time, they could certainly do the damage to granite, if they bothered to do an investigation it would become apparent through chemical traces, apparently they just bulldozed them to the ground within hours, seems odd.
This most likely supports the bomb theory:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-guidestones-blown-up-explosion/
Its pretty obviously a bomb, I hadn’t seen that footage, they are talking about 20 years imprisonment without parole, seems a little harsh considering the sentence for murder and the fact that granite was the only casualty. I would like to know what they thought they could accomplish by destroying it.
Chris, a lighting strike would have bleached the entire area with white light immediately preceeding even accompanying the explosion. That would have lit up the entire surrounding landscape like daylight.
The only anomalous burst of light was immediately post explosion.
Their was a light source focussed on the stones before the blast and it looks like the smoke illuminated in a bluish hue.
Their are a lot of people who wanted those guidestones gone.
Yes you are right there it was hard to see from the footage I saw but it did look very blue leading me to think it was a strike, also a storm is the perfect cover for an explosion anyone would think it was thunder. Why do they want them gone exactly?
There’s a big anti secret society public out there and with good reason.
We know they’re into eugenics and depopulation for power consolidation and control, so even though 500,000,000 people is reasonable for the planet, its the methods and objectives associated with their ideas that are creating suspicion and resistance.
Yes could be their HAARP weather weapon. Like how george floyd grave was struck by lightning. I think it was done by the deep state but I cant figure out why.
Im not sure HAARP could do this that’s more about heating the ionosphere in the upper atmosphere and we cant just blame it for everything. If there is a storm about it is possible to direct lightning with a conductive medium such as a plasma generated by a UV laser or a kite string etc.. Why would anyone bother to do that? Anyway the footage is out and someone is planting a bomb and running away, its an open and shut case.
Maybe to make those into conspiracies their beliefs stronger so they act on it
A blast from the past. AboveTopSecret is how I found out about Billy Meier, in around 2005 I think. Someone posted a few photo’s and later a few short paragraphs written by Billy. I haven’t visited that site since.
Perhaps I’m just simple-minded but it seems to me, with all the disinterest of the P’s to come forward OBVIOUSLY and truthfully to the world about all this religious warfare having been CAUSED by THEIR ancestors, they’re as feckless and dishonest as our politicians! If they’re not willing to input as much effort and energy as their ancestors took in creating all this religious misinformation, it will never balance out the equation. Maybe a lot of us are better off knowing more of the truth of the universe than we would be otherwise, but for the vast majority of humanity who doesn’t know anything about the P’s, they might as well not be here. If people don’t know, what does it matter? They’re not going to do anything anyway! As we’re told, we’re on our own. What will be, will be. Whose going to make it otherwise?
Time and again we see comments that reflect a disconnect-deflect-and-project attitude towards life situations.
In this classic example, the focus – and blame – is immediately on the Plejaren and their ancestors. Consider also the rhetorical questions and one might get the impression that the comment is coming from someone far removed from, and unaffected by, the matter.
It’s a perfect example of how people’s thinking has been influenced politically and religiously, pointing away from self-responsibility to place the blame, or seek help from, outside sources.
It’s a great mode for tea time, or tee time, conversations but utterly useless otherwise.
“I couldn`t agree more with you MH:-))) DITTO:-)))
To reconsider the energy of your words, if the teachings of religions we currently have worked then the sages of old would have ruled the world long ago by themselves. Yet, when the prophets of old were around they were painted as crafty villains in their day. And, there was nothing those sages could do against the supposedly crafty villains sprouting their inconvenient interruption of blind devotion or virtue signaling that occurs in our backyard.
I just had a debate with a man who said that all ets are Demons working for Satan. The vast majority shutdown when you tell them that the ets say Jesus and God don’t exist. It’s incredible how such intelligent people lose all sense of logic and reason.
“DITTO Joe!” Yuk!:(((
I agree. What puzzles me is that for hundreds of years, thousands of years, in drawings, paintings, petroglyphs, in oral history, written history, humans around the world KNEW aliens existed and that we were connected to the stars, so why is it so difficult to reestablish that knowledge? Unless it becomes obvious somehow again, I don’t see words being enough. The truth IS out there though!
For the Jaeschke reference, you might want to swap out the link for his linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-jaeschke-10929b173/
What with everything going on in the world, and things to come which will test us all, I often sit and think about how much, if any, our governments will be prepared and be able to help the population. There will be a point where it could be a free for all, survival by your own wits and I hope that people in general will help each other. Call me an optomist but i would like to think the good in people will out shine the bad, but I have seen first hand how some people will sell their granny to get the upper hand before helping others. I for one will make sure I’m the shinning light in the darkness, no matter how dark the days are. I for one will not be waiting on any sky daddy to come from on high to save us, but a little knowledge wouldn’t go amiss to help.
Salome
Gordon.
Michael, you tweeted that the georgia guidestone event was brought to us by people who want to control womens bodies.
Abortion is murder isnt it?
BTW ,, ( meow ) l found a battered little crucifix on the ground when l happened to look down. It was like it was waiting for me like love & truth, which have also been discarded.
l just hung it from the rear view in my first brand new older than me car..
My earliest memory is of my grandma pressing a small gold cross into my hand.
“Do you know who this is?”,,,,
“Thats Jesus”, I remember feeling love and awe, my first conscious memory and emotion.
I knew who that was.
It must have been my first year in life, sinse we lived with grandma and grandpa that year.
Abortion should always be a choice. And especially in this overpopulation catastrophe. Here are some things to read.
Ptaah:
94. It is a malicious and high-handed presumption, insolence, arrogance and domineering domination by men over women, over their bodies and pregnancies and over their own freedom of decision, as is the case in many other matters.
95. In this way she, the woman, is degraded and debased, as she has been since time immemorial, to the status of a man’s maid and slave.
96. Even among earthly men, the state between man and woman should be such, as it is in our case, that the woman alone has to decide and determine in regard to her own concerns, including pregnancy and any necessary abortion of the same.
97. If the man does not accept this in this form, then he will interfere in the woman’s very own personal matters of body and life, depriving her of free self-determination through coercion and beating her into bondage and slavery, which is an injustice of an incredibly malicious form.
98. This is also true when the rights and freedom to which a woman is entitled in this relationship – as in all other relationships – are denied to her by cultic, sectarian and religious laws, prohibitions and machinations.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_326
The fetus is not animated at conception and doesn’t animate until 21 days after conception.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Parenthood_and_the_Desire_to_Have_a_Baby
Mellisssssa! I’m talking about abortion after 3weeks. Its murder then right?
Once the spirit enters the fetus, it would be considered murder, but I’m curious about the emergency right to prevent surplus human beings. I remember Billy or Ptaah talking in a contact report about extraterrestrials coming to earth in the future and forcing a birthing ban. They mentioned that the ET’s would not allow any exceptions and force anyone who is illegally pregnant to get an abortion, but I have to find it.
There may be some type of emergency exception when we are facing an atmospheric collapse, but I don’t know for sure.
Yuh, I remember reading the worldwide birth ban in the notes. The notes l read concerning a ban were concerning a situation under which a mass genetic reprogramming would be underway in order to eraditicate our defective dna.
I dont recall it being under ET supervision,however, the penalty for pregnancy in that situation was cited as death.
Its been a while sinse l read that though and l could never find it anyway..
There’s a couple of things I want to find because it’s not always black and white. There’s circumstances of deformity and the mother’s life and well-being that also come into play. Billy has written a good bit about it but it’s spread throughout thousands of pages of contact notes. If I can find more interesting info, I’ll post it here.
Yeah,, I wanna know!
And juss because its ET doesnt mean its in adherence to creational law.
Semjase said there are extremely barbaric races who have evolved to the highest levels of perfection.
That could mean anything from technical to spiritual.
We need more clarity on whether the Plejaren consider that a post 21day pregnancy can ever righteously be terminated.
To me it can only ever be the lesser of two evils. It is always going to be an unjust killing in the eyes of creation and will have to be atoned for no matter what the reason.
Creation doesnt wake up one day and say well OK,,, just this one time you can kill animated children in the womb because you screwed your atmosphere up..
It definitely wouldn’t mean spiritual because they wouldn’t be barbaric if they were highly evolved. It would have to mean technical. There’s also cases of self defense which includes defense of the planet. Extinguishing a life doesn’t always mean murder.
Defence of a planet cannot justify the killing of an innocent child.
If anyone is that zealously commited to reducing the population they have the opportunity to suicide in defence of their planet instead of passing judgement and seeing fit to extinguish the life of another.
I think you are looking at it the wrong way. No one is justifying murder, but there are times when it’s not against Creation.
Hi Irene,
I double-checked with Christian Frehner and abortion (after 21 days) would be considered self-defense against the overpopulation catastrophe. It makes logical sense because in order to protect the planet and the people already here from a complete planetary collapse, strong measures have to be taken to stop the massive increase in births.
There’s also the fact that we are still somewhat primitive and have not yet realized that the spirit (Creation-energy) enters the embryo at 21 days. Most women don’t even know they are pregnant until 4 weeks or later.
From Christian:
Hi Melissa
As long as we are not capable and able to definitively diagnose a pregnancy during the first 21 days, we have to accept the rightness of abortion for a period beyond that limit. It’s the same principle as with eating meat. As long as we are not capable to artificially multiply/grow real meat at all and on a grand scale, we will have to kill animals and insects etc. for our nourishment.
Should a country/government finally realise the danger and implications etc. of overpopulation and openly communicate about it, and decide strict measures to reduce the population by decreasing pregnancies, abortions can be one of the methods (but not the only one!) to reach the goal.
You may find specific information about this in my attached essay.
Salome
Christian
I highly recommend that everyone read the full essay at the link below, but here is a short excerpt regarding abortion.
“When measures against overpopulation are in force, an abortion represents an act of self-defence and is not considered as murder, which quite contrarily would be the case if, e.g., a foetus is aborted because it has an undesired (= female, as a rule!) sex/gender.”
https://theyflyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Population_Growth_Without_Limit.pdf
He says abortion is self defence when meazures are in place for a birth stop.
So until then its a “lifestyle choice” (gag) and its murder in my eyes.
I want to read what Billy himself would say. I dont trust the core members opinions.
Billy knows that it’s the correct path, he’s been talking about it for years. The Core and Passive Members learn from Billy’s high evolutional knowledge and wisdom.
We are in an overpopulation catastrophe, so the self-defense applies, unless you want all life on the planet to perish. It appears that you are basing your opinion on belief rather than logic. And the opinions of humans are irrelevant when something is logical and based on the Creational laws and recommendations.
I have a position subject to change,,, not a “belief” and until I hear something definitive from either Billy or the Plejaren, I will hold my position which is in line with creational law.
The opinion of a core member expanding his own interpretations of creational law is NOT creational law.
Its his opinion and l dont accept it.
You’re entitled to your beliefs. Logic doesn’t change because Creation is logic.
Also, I want to add that it’s impossible for Billy to do everything. That’s why he has so many people around him who have put in the work and effort to recognize the truth. He laid the foundation which in turn helped the Core & Passive Members to progress in their consciousness development. Do you think that Christian would put out a FIGU essay if it wasn’t inline with the Creational laws and recommendations? That’s a strange position to cling to. No one knows everything, but when you think about it from a neutral positive position, while leaving emotion and belief out of it, the truth becomes evident.
It’s also not an insinuation that people should use abortion as some sort of birth control measure instead of using actual birth control/contraception, but the option has to remain open for a certain amount of time. All the countries and governments need to come to an agreement on how long or how many weeks is right and make it a done deal for all women on the planet. Enough of the religious fanatics shoving their beliefs on the rest of us!
I dont assume anyone regardless of position or stature in the FIGU is immune from personal interpretation of the laws and recommendations.
Sorry if that seems “strange” to you.
Please mind your own logical processses and dont judge mine. I find it offensive and sneeky and weak.
Yeeeesh!
Um, FIGU’s mission is to spread the mission and the TRUTH, which is what I’m doing. I already said that you are entitled to your beliefs, but if you’re uncomfortable hearing the truth, hop on over to “Relying on Ignorance” at Above Top Secret. I’ll ignore your other comments since they are absurd and unfounded.
Here’s another interesting conversation between Billy and Ptaah.
The bottom line is that we mostly have the worldwide religious fanatics/conservatives to thank for the overpopulation catastrophe. It’s really sickening what’s been done in the name of religion and their precious sky daddy. These people are beyond stupid.
Billy:
Unfortunately, you are saying a true word. But this irresponsibility, which you mentioned, also prevails in other ways, e.g. among all those who should be concerned that the overpopulation on earth will be drastically, rigorously and radically restricted by a worldwide, seven-year birth stop in a decisive form, such as perhaps alphabetically ordered or in any other logical way. All those responsible for this, however, who were, for example, also at the Cairo Overpopulation Conference, are not at all suitable for it, by which I mean that they are in no way suitable for recognizing the real, evil truth of overpopulation and all its devastating consequences on the one hand, and for taking really valuable measures against all the overpopulation evil and its consequences on the other hand. No, on the contrary, they are all only interested in hoarding their own mites on the one hand, and in making a good life for themselves on the other. They also let themselves be chased into the fence and terrorized by idiotic, religious fundamentalists and conservatives etc., as happened at the overpopulation conference in Cairo, where Islamic conservatives and fundamentalists also played off their power against a birth ban and birth control as well as against effective family planning and contraception with evil threats etc., as also the representatives and defenders of the Vatican upper parasite did, whereby he, the Pope, at another time remained victorious with a hollow grin and peptating, while the terrestrial mankind and the whole world by his and his followers as well as representatives and defenders blame faster and faster fall into misery and downfall. Also the other responsible persons of this world, the rulers etc., are complicit in it, because they are not only equally invested like the Pope and his henchmen as well as the other fundamentalists and conservatives etc., but they also make false and lying statements and have false statistics compiled, by which it is to be proven that everything is not half as bad as alleged prophets of doom make public. For example, false statistics are used to falsely claim that there are currently just 5.5 billion people living on earth, whereas in reality there are already 6 billion. The claims of this kind always lag between 300 and 500 million behind the real number. That is so, isn’t it? Anyway, Quetzal, Semjase, Asket and also you have explained it this way.
Ptaah:
115. That’s right.
116. At present, on the 15th of October, eleven days ago, we recorded earthly humanity with a number of 6,101,463,017 persons.
Billy:
You see, that’s how it is. And do you know what was a major concern of certain stupid elements in Cairo, rather than that they had spoken about overpopulation reduction through an appropriate worldwide birth stop? You do not believe it: women and men mistakenly believed that the world population could be reduced if women were given more rights and enlightened more. Not a word, however, about the fact that worldwide rigorous and radical action must be taken immediately with a birth ban if further evil is to be prevented. I and all other reasonably thinking people have no objection whatsoever to women all over the world finally being accorded and granted the same rights as men do. Nor can there be any objection whatsoever to good education and training for women on a worldwide basis, quite the contrary. But all this does not solve the problem of the constantly growing overpopulation in the slightest, because only immediate radical and rigorous measures to stop births can be helpful, and this also includes the possibility and the right of abortion, if this happens within the framework of creative laws. This also includes the emergency right to prevent surplus human beings. Family planning is good and right in normal times, but to talk about family planning now that the world is full of people who are already destroying everything is criminal. I am talking about family planning, as it is currently practised and is not designed to reduce humanity by means of a real, purposeful and appropriate worldwide birth ban. Instead of real and radical measures being taken, stupid and stupid talk is being made, senseless arguments and proposals are being discussed and empty straw is being threshed. But let’s not do that, it’s no use…
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_250
Just curious. How come there is no consideration for the father’s interests in your conversations with Irene? Some guys DO want children, but perhaps since the topic is abortion, it may just be it may all be about the fun, but not the consequences. Doesn’t that fall on the woman too? Perhaps mass sterilization is the more proper approach. SOME kind of birth control seems to be needed.
Because it’s the woman who is pregnant. The decision belongs to her alone. If it were the men who get pregnant, they would make the decision. That’s not to say that the man can’t give their opinion, advice, etc., but the decision is ultimately up to the woman. Birth control and a birthing ban are the best options, but we obviously aren’t living in a sane and logical world.
I guess what I’m questioning is responsibility. It’s okay for a woman to be irresponsible in getting pregnant but responsible in getting an abortion? How can more responsibility be put on both male and female to stop conception in the first place? Problem is, as you implied, humanity will never go for it.
No one said that men and women should be irresponsible, but that’s the world we live in. Maybe if parents were in the home and raising their children correctly, we wouldn’t have so many issues. The whole overpopulation catastrophe brings many other catastrophes with it.
And the answer is yes, when it’s your body, you’ll be responsible for what happens to it.
What does religion have to do with leftists, what is leftists? Your reality of sociology on the EUA is becoming ever more confusing. You’re mixing religion with the ideas of Karl Marx? What a messThe more you insist on this left/right mania, the further down The rabbit hole your Minds will go. The ideas of social reforms by Karl Marx, which the majority of the EUA citizens despise, even though 98% of them havn’t ever read Karl Marx. Left and right are political ideas created to drive you from the effective original ideas of who created them, just like religion does through sub religions like your pentecostal, more crap is added on. But sociology is the science of social understanding and evolution, thus it’s quite simple, generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on “ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism” while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on “notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism”. Get it? It’s simple, social reforms and work towards equality, or vote for nationalism and corporativism when you’re a poor MF
Study sociology otherwise foolishness will be your companion.
You may have missed some points and distinctions.
The insistence on the “left/right mania” certainly isn’t ours.
You also present generalized characterizations of the polarizing left/right divisions, which no longer fully apply anyway.
Study the non-religious, belief-free, apolitical Creation-energy teaching, or delusion, conflict, polarization, violence, aggression, and confusion will be…your companion.