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The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

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Pseudo Stu Suddenly Surfaces at Disinformation Site

Mysteriously missing in action from his own blog, where he’s already censored at least four posts from people pressing him on his refusal to test Billy Meier’s WCUFO photo, and thereby unavoidably authenticating it for himself (as many people have already done worldwide), Pseudoscientist Stuart Robbins has popped up as a “regular panelist” on ATS Live, an online radio show connected to the largest disinformation site, AboveTopSecret.

Now if one thinks that it’s an exaggeration, I suggest joining their forums and to start posting about the Billy Meier case. In fact, go right to the heart of the matter and invite people to not only check out Prof. Rhal Zahi’s extensive research but to also go ahead and test the nighttime WCUFO photo themselves.

Most likely, true to their name, they’ll keep it…above top secret from anyone who visits their site. If you aren’t gone before you get started, you can also inform them about this. See just how far you get with any of that.

Progress with MUFON

I resumed my communications, at the end of last week, with Jan Harzan pertaining to expanding MUFON’s participation in opening up the Meier case to it’s members, as well as its Science Review Board, board of directors, etc.

Regarding my impressing upon Jan that Meier has the best, most abundant, scientifically corroborated evidence and information, Jan suggested that I try and get some scientists interested in coming together to review it. The problem, he said, was that MUFON receives literally thousands of reports of UFO sightings every month and that they can barely keep up with that.

I suggested the obvious solution to Jan, which is to actually…reverse the priorities. Since the Meier case not only has the best, clearest UFO evidence, and all the other “UFO cases” to date – all of them­ – are merely more of the endless reports of lights in the sky, MUFON should begin telling Edna in Iowa, Kenny in Kansas and all of those people who report their sightings to “get some scientists interested in coming together to review it” and, of course, to get MUFON’s personnel to hop to it on the Meier case which, after all, is still ongoing.

Since we don’t want MUFON itself fall prey to the “I Don‘t Want to Find What I’m Looking For” syndrome, which one of its own obviously very confused personnel has already succumbed to, I encouraged Jan to consider my logical, sensible approach over the weekend. We are scheduled to resume our communications this week and, since many MUFON members read this blog, I encourage them to endorse this approach as well. By prioritizing the investigation into the evidence in the Meier case, including of course Prof. Zahi’s new, ironclad analyses, MUFON can make its own definitive determinations if the case is a “hoax”, thereby ending the discussion. Or, if they determine that it’s authentic, it may end other (and so far proven futile) aspects of their work. But either way it’s a win for all concerned since, certainly, the truth is what we’re all searching for, right?

New Age Blues

Pertaining to my recent blog about being censored by some hyper-happy, Orwellian, New Age types I thought I’d at least share my more lyrical viewpoint on the “New Age”, as penned by me back in…1986. Gosh, I’ll bet a lot of those pie-in-the-sky, come-and-save-me-space-brothers types may not have even arrived on Earth back then and, though perhaps physically present now, many of them obviously still haven’t gotten back into their bodies and put their feet on the ground. (You can hear some of the songs here.)

Such a satirically satisfying target as it may be, the fact that all the New Age psychobabble still attracts people with its various vacuous, kooky claims and delusional, escapist content is really no laughing matter. And while I didn’t even get the chance to specifically critique the four presenters who followed me, despite accusations that I singled any out for special (and probably well deserved criticism, if not derision) I’m presenting their promo material as it appeared on the now defunct poster/page for the event. See if you can find any indication of, and/or links to, verifiable, credible, substantiation for any of the claims made by these four people. Please keep in mind that I was censored for “stating beliefs and not facts”:

Dolores Cannon:
Throughout the mid to late 1980s, Dolores work slowly began taking her in a completely new direction of exploration. She was introduced to the area of UFO and ET investigation in 1985 when she attended her first annual meeting for MUFON (Mutual UFO Network), one of the largest and most respected investigative UFO organizations in the world.
http://www.dolorescannon.com/

(NOTE: Dolores Cannon, “sweet, smart older lady” that she may be, is referred to in the FIGU publication titled: Those Who Lie About Contacts, on pg.5)

Inelia Benz:
This is Inelia’s first incarnation on any planet, so she was born free from self-importance, attachments, personal agendas, personal evolution, or a desire for soul advancement. She arrived knowing only that the planet needed to vibrate at a higher level in order to undergo a global ascension. What she did not know was how to assist in raising the vibration and how to communicate the need for a higher vibration to others. Initially, Inelia tried emulating other people’s actions by getting married, having children having problems, and learning about human suffering. Although this gave her a deeper understanding of what others considered important, it did not assist in reaching the aim of global ascension.
https://ascension101.com/

Robert Potter:
Using Advanced ET Technologies for Healing our Planet and Ourselves Rob will be sharing the latest developments and plans for the liberation of planet from Inter dimensional Galactic Federation of Light and the Ascended Masters. Rob will share his Star Gate portal technology to help people actually develop and experience their own spiritual bodiesor Merkahbah conscious field. This “Promise Healing System” will actually help you understand quantum physics of how to integrate feeling and thought to accelerate the manifestation. This process of manifestation is sometimes called the secret and Rob will explain this in great detail.
http://thepromiserevealed.com/

Rob Gauthier:
“In 2007 I went to a spiritualism church. I went there because I decided to get my life back on track. I was looking into the dark for too long. Now I went there because this was the only place in the area that I could express my beliefs openly and meditate and be taught by many, many great psychics. As a child I was blessed with psychic abilities but as I digressed so did they. As I started learning from the great psychics in my area I learned many things. Including many experiences that I had as a child which were not figments of “just my imagination”. And when I had thought I met my grandmother for the first time when I was nine, after she had been dead for over twenty years, I was right. This all started making sense to me. Something made me continue. So I continued to learn more meditations and after a couple years of working with my abilities every day, and really being dedicated about them, I met Treb Bor yit-NE.”
http://www.trebchanneling.com/

Michael Horn:
UFOs: What’s the Point? In this presentation Michael Horn presents overwhelming evidence that the Billy Meier UFO case, still ongoing in Switzerland for over 70 years, is the only scientifically proven, UFO contact case and that it’s the real reason for the entire UFO cover-up Michael will show that despite any doubts or challenges, that there is zero evidence for any other claims of contacts with any extraterrestrials. Further, he will show that the actual reason for the Meier case and its spectacular, still irreproducible physical and prophetically accurate scientific information is to help us help ourselves to assure our own future survival.
http://theyfly.com/

As I say regarding my new film, the people were warned…and did they listen?

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Bruce

omg! rather, oh my Ishwisch!

I had no idea how qualified Michael’s fellow panelists were!

for the looney bin, that is ..

Duke

The Promised Convoluted Ascended Channel folks could have improved their gimmick with the Bugs Bunny Theme.

Helen

Standing for Truth will cause conflict, like when reading about Qayin and Hevel (Cain and Abel).

To speak Truth, we must know ourselves.

J. Smith

Michael,

Pseudo Stu Suddenly Surfaces at Disinformation Site:
Have you seen this nonsense [Pleiadian Meditations and Affirmations – A Very Important Messages (Listen Mandatorily!]
Links:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtgmjjZdeak&list=PL2894BEB401175936] and [http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1008643/pg1]

Straight from the “AboveTopSecret” website as you stated definitely a disinformation website I’m sure that I can find more if I dig deeper, but I won’t even bother. This nonsense has to stop.

Progress with MUFON:
I really hope Jan considers that idea. Imagine the skeptical onslaught from the “UFO Experts” in the many other UFOCI’s if MUFON agrees to do as you said and help disseminate this case. They would become outcast I have no doubts about it.

New Age Blues:
Michael as you may remember I asked you “What in the world are those other people coming to present”. I’m sure the logical thinkers like ourselves if there were any in the audience or watching at home left wondering the same thing.

J. Smith

SIL!

Jason

Hello. Again. Funny to see you here today. None of the other presenters CLAIMED that they have elusive truth, or proof for that matter, which is what you claim to offer. They ONLY state, here is my experience. If it resonates, use it. If it does not, you may feel free to turn your computer off. What is the harm in that. What you say is MUCH more dangerous. You say ” I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH TRUTH. IF YOU DO NOT LISTEN YOU ARE WRONG.” That to me is MUCH more dangerous.

Jason

I did. I sent it to you yesterday in your other blog. But because it is from a source that is not your own blog, or from Billy himself, you can’t accept it as truth. The evidence you sent me was in your OWN blog ? And that is o.k. for me. I get it, but why drag others into your own interpretation of the truth. I went to that event to see ALL of you. I understand your scrutiny of this and why you can’t believe. I would probably be right next to you if I would have not had my own experience. I am a 47 year old man who did auto mechanics for over 30 years when something happened that changed my life. If a family member would have told me it happened to them at the time, I would have been TWICE as skeptical as you. And it is people like you that make it hard for me to share my own life changing experience with the world. I shared it with a life long friend and I lost my lifetime best friend over it. I have NO CLUE if they are telling the truth, BUT one thing I KNOW is that if ONE OF THEM… If ONE of the hundreds of thousands of people that say they have had similar experiences is NOT a cynical liar (as you suggest), then I am not alone. I know this means nothing to you but it takes the weight of the world off of my shoulders. It makes me feel freer knowing that. You cant take my experience away from me. I do NOT have proof, but I DO HAVE what I KNOW happened. In my MIND, AND my heart. I know what happened to me. Your attitude triggers the part in me that makes that mechanic in me wish he never left the garage. Life is HARDER for me BECA– — — USE of what happened and I did NOT want that. I am glad now, but back then I would have given my left arm to have had it NOT. So say whatever you want about peoples hearts, guts, or experiences, but we wouldn’t have them if we didn’t need them as discernment tools.

Jason

I lost my job, my community, friends, and most of my family for sharing it. So yes, it upsets me horribly to see you say that everyone who is not Billy Meier is a liar. like Billy. I believe him. I believed you. Just not your taking away the parts of us that do not have proof, just intuition and experiences.

Simon

‘Unless and until people who make extraordinary claims can substantiate them, well, they’re liars.’

What??? That’s just absolutely 100% ridiculous. Many experiences of individuals, whether ordinary or extraordinary, cannot be proven to other people, because a lot of times simply no evidence is left. That doesn’t necessarily make those individuals liars, it just makes it impossible for other people to determine whether the person is telling the truth or not, which would justify the agnostic position until evidence is provided. The truth is the truth, whether we have evidence for it or not.

Jason

Thank you for the links. Thank you for not dismissing my experience.

Simon

A lie is a lie BECA– — — USE it’s not true AND they are aware of that. Not because there is no evidence available; there could also be ‘extraordinary’ claims that are true for which there is no evidence available either (Roswell?). There’s also a lot of stuff in the Meier case that Meier can’t prove, does that make him a liar too?

Also people can be wrong and/or deluded, they could believe something is true which is not true. I don’t call such people liars, but just people who are wrong and/or deluded.

Jason

EXCLUSIVE ** not Elusive. Sorry for misspell. And remember, I agreed with 99% of what you said as MY TRUTH.

Anthony

truth
tro͞oTH/
noun
noun: truth

the quality or state of being true.
“he had to accept the truth of her accusation”
synonyms: veracity, truthfulness, verity, sincerity, candor, honesty; More
accuracy, correctness, validity, factuality, authenticity
“he doubted the truth of her statement”
antonyms: dishonesty, falseness
that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
noun: the truth
“tell me the truth”
synonyms: what actually happened, the case, so; More
the gospel (truth), the honest truth
“it’s the truth, I swear”
fact(s), reality, real life, actuality
“truth is stranger than fiction”
antonyms: lies, fiction
a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
plural noun: truths
“the emergence of scientific truths”
synonyms: fact, verity, certainty, certitude; More
law, principle
“scientific truths”
antonyms: lie, falsehood

There is no “My Truth.” The truth is reality. If a tree falls in the forest, when nobody is around, does it make a sound? If we are spiritual beings and consider ourselves just a part-piece of the ONE of every other living thing, in entire universe,. then yes. Yes it made a sound. Most living things have ears, not just the illustrious human beings, and the sound of the tree was heard by many of living creatures that make up the unity of the forest.

Philip Brandel

As far as this ‘truth’ goes, there is only one! My truth your truth… we are just individual specks in the TRUTH that is all of us.. conscious within it to be as stupid and illogical as we want.
I would have not thought any different from Michael’s approach here! As someone else pointed out… in our day and age within this ‘topic’, you know you are on the right track if they disagree with you in this way:) Danger turns to courage as is all to lacking everywhere!
Billy’s case is REAL and using people that can dangle a piece of metal from a string as evidence to the contrary, need to look into this case a little deeper!
Someday it will be shown for the logic that it is… yet, with as little as we listen, will it have helped stop what we only seem to know.

Aquarian Age

Hi Michael,
Keep up the goof work as

David Scott

The significance of the complexity of the brain needs to be addressed here . There are instances every day where people have experiences that they believe are real . You have sleep terror , where in you are dreaming , usually in a dark place and awake , open your eyes , move your arms and such , but still are within a vivid dreamstate . You find most that experience will swear to you that it happened . You have instances within weight loss , a popular trend for 30 plus years , that expose the power of the brain . When you begin to burn from your fat storage and detox you have chemicals introduced into your bloodstream at any given time of the day that alter your state and can deliver delusions that are experienced as if they were real . People will swear to it . Its been proven in research that your brain exposed to magnitism will deliver wild outlandish results regarding delusions . Its the reason that further proof of claims becomes imperitive when one decides to address the masses of people .Its just a responsible practice . I used to actually pass on these descriptions above until I had an experience that exposed me to the power of the brain.

I used to body build as a hobby to push my health to the extreme . One day upon my research I realized the increased amount of food I needed to consume to sustain was too much . I am 200lbs naturally now and was 275lbs at this time of my decision to give up the training because the food was not safe . It was ultimately an oxymoron . Train for health , and the food is what kills you ! So I left fake sugars , GMO’s and fake food completely along with the steroid beef and chicken stuff . I just portion controlled and came back to my resting weight in a natural way . When I got down to the last 10lbs or so . I began the hard core detox with junk deep in my fat . I visited my doctor and he explained this to me and sure enough in this time I had a delusion . One day after cycling I had a few hours after where I had not eaten and was burning fat off . I believed my friend came to visit with her daughter and we visited and played music and then I wondered where they went , and thought hmm why would they leave with out saying goodbye . I called her soon thereafter to inquire and she said to me , WHAT? I am at my brothers party for his daughter ! what are you talking about . SO , It was real as day . Had this been a delusion about some mystic experience , I could easily see how one could get stuck in this belief . I also had a sleep incident , like above , just visiting Scotland and nice scenery , but my eyes were open and I was dreaming moving my hands and standing up , but I was in Scotland ! So just something to think about . When you want to go public and pull people in the loop their is a certain level of responsibility , and inquisition that is practical and to be fair neccessary . We have enough fake belief systems that do SOOOO much damage its hard to wrap your head around already. Wars and death are not fun , we don’t need another religion . Wasn’t Scientology the last to slip through the cracks worshiping fake made up stuff from a so called credible doctor even ?

Aquarian Age

Hi Michael,
Keep up the good work as I have always said !!
Hahahahah.. If only we had 100 like Michael Horn I thought 4 years ago.. and now watch him @_@.
Above top secret is just toooo sad !
Keep up the good work.
Much energy to you
@_@

tony_dev

I would have to assume with all the blithering and carrying on on this rock, at least one of these species will eventually dissolve any doubts we terrestrials may have sooner than later. It doesn’t mean they solve our problems, but they will in all good time tire of this incessant back and forth of who is more this or that. Then maybe Humans can get on with the task of actually changing our world and our consctiousness on their own. It’s becoming a broken record now at this time in our evolution and at least a few of those who do watch must be reaching their end of patience. They must look down upon us as simple children arguing over toys, yet these toys are philosophical in nature and never seem to bear much fruit. This will have to change soon, seriously. There is a hypothesis that dicates some will simply come and make themselves known to Humans so they can wake us up by their mere existance and have us quit fighting and acting as children, because currently, we are acting as uneducated children on the world stage, but there will be no saving of anyone, we will have to change it ALL. This will not be tolerated forever. So called “grown adults” acting in such monstrous ways will not be tolerated, although it’s VERY doubtful these activities will encompass the Plejaren people at all, if ever. They deplore this place as a station of madness and dillusional thinking and they would be correct in this assessment. Governments had better get their heads out of their backsides before your policies are removed from you in a somewhat more cosmic way. The killing and sectarian, and religious murder must stop soon. We are reaching a very imporant date soon, which will in and of itself do much of the cleansing of the planet. We have become a species with no empathy and only weak intellectual know how.

tony_dev

You have become very embittered in your journey as is the case with most of us. Try not to take every little sentence as truth from these people Michael, lest you loose your own identity. You must realize other things will happen outside the influence of the Plejaren. Everyone knows their messege and it is a sound, ancient truth. You seem to rely on their every word yet almost exclude their very existence. Tough love is perfectly fine, but others do play a role here in our future. We’ve been brow beaten enough with how horrible we are. It’s now time to accept that the Plejaren have moved on in body without a doubt. To think that others will not take a peak at us now is absurd. Don’t forget riend, we must never forget to think for ourselves in the end. You can go on about proof till you’re blue in the face, but it will never change the possibilities of things to come, and you know it. The Plejaren are long gone from this palce and you yourself know what follows as do I. Try not to be so negative, the Plejaren don’t know everything, afterall, they’re only Human 🙂

tony_dev

It was not my intention to project my feelings onto you not would I want to. I have my own feelings, which are true and correct in every way. It’s a mistake to ridicule everything that lies outside the Meier case or information given by the Plejaren. It just isn’t logical. Furthermore, to blatantly accuse anyone having an experience that is clearly extraordinary as being a liar is egoic in nature. It may be wise to re-evaluate how you interact with others in relation to this case. Personal attacks upon the very people you wish to garner attention from is probably not very useful in the end. You yourself are relying upon the written word of these Plejaren without ever having been given first hand knowledge of the material you are defending nor can you provide any actual physical evidence of the existence of any of the contact people being mentioned in the contact reports. So in the end, this pendulum swings both ways.

vincentg

ATS are a bunch of snakes,I remember them banning you from the forum after you started that thread about one of the photos,every person on that forum is devoted to believing lies about Meier,they perpetuate the laughably ill informed hoax theories and dismiss the thorough investigation by Wendelle,Lee,Brit,Welch,Dilletosso,Deardorff,etc.

vincentg

it’s worth a shot,I can drown

vincentg

I can drown them in information

J. Smith

Do you have to sign up to comment on their forums?

dm

I remember telling my music teacher back in early highschool that along with being a musician, I would like to be a philosopher and she laughed at me stating “wow, two highly paid professions”. I guess I just always knew the importance of getting in the middle of the objective truth debate no matter how uncomfortable it makes me or other people. Truth is truth and to ignore it is to do so at your own peril. The meier case is really the perfect place to get to the crux of this matter. Nowhere else on earth will you find more impartial, none politicized, none religious, accurate scientific plethora of information (in all areas of life and science). Being the most important case in human history also makes it easy to predict the existence of without knowing anything about it. The maths are so simple if you can just let go of dearly held beliefs. To heck with them all. You just have to THINK. Think think think! Stop wasting time with what you know is obviously nonsense. I guess first, a person has to choose a method by which he chooses some information as valid and other information as invalid. My choice was probability. And it remains as the best method i could find to get accurate data. Nothing else makes you think more.

dm

Oh hey! By the way Michael, did you see this latest news? You should add it to the collaboration work 🙂 New evidence T-Rex traveled in packs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/tracks-found-in-bc-suggest-tyrannosaurs-hunted-in-packs/article19722824/

dm

Yes I remember the first story broke out in 2006? I guess they are saying that this is much better conclusive evidence of the theory however. Reinforces it quite a bit.

Simon

‘Mysteriously missing in action from his own blog, where he’s already censored at least four posts from people pressing him on his refusal to test Billy Meier’s WCUFO photo, and thereby unavoidably authenticating it for himself (as many people have already done worldwide), Pseudoscientist Stuart Robbins has popped up as a “regular panelist” on ATS Live, an online radio show connected to the largest disinformation site, AboveTopSecret.’

How does censoring posts about the WCUFO photo mean that he authenticated them for himself? Why couldn’t it simply mean: ‘I’m done with this’.

From Contact 468, January 11, 2010:

12. Thereto, according to Ptaah and Quetzal and from all of us who work together with them and discuss all necessary things with them, I now should advise that you and the Core Group members and passive members, as well as Michael Horn and others, in no further way ought to involve yourselves in any controversy in said form.
13. Also, in the correspondence as well as on the FIGU forums and with journalists and visitors, and so forth, the whole thing ought not to be gone into, and thus no questions relevant to controversy or other questions which are directed at calling the truth into question, are to be answered any more.
14. For the longest time, in the same way that evidence of the truth of our collective contacts has already been provided by many witnesses, as has the genuineness of your photos made of our beamships and various materials, which were given by Genesis III in the USA, to renowned scientific experts and institutions for scientific investigation and analysis and which proved that all the material corresponds to genuineness and that no counterfeits whatsoever are presented.
15. Also, the investigations on the sites and locations where the photos, and so forth, were made showed that all your data correspond to the truth and that no deception whatsoever is present.
16. This must finally be accepted. However, after all the evidence provided and after a time of more than 30 years, whoever – in regard to the presentation of evidence – still cannot accept this, is poor and paranoid in regard to intelligence and rationality.
17. Therefore, neither you, nor other members or friends and acquaintances, ought to react to further discriminatory machinations and questions, rather declare that the evidence of the genuineness and truth in regard to the contacts and photos, as well as other materials is sufficiently provided, consequently it is nonsensical to still continue to talk about it.

Using the same logic for Meier, would the fact that he/Figu doesn’t want to respond anymore to the skeptics mean that he admits they are right? It seems pretty clear to me this simply means: ‘This issue has been addressed enough, we’re done with it.’ Why couldn’t this apply so Stuart as well?

Simon

Well… he seems to have a comment policy:

I had hoped that I did not need a comments policy, but it appears as if I now do. The comments policy is as follows:

1. No foul language. I am the arbitrator of what this implies.
2. Straight attack comments are not allowed.
3. YOUR COMMENTS MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE POST TO WHICH YOU ARE COMMENTING.

I haven’t seen a recent post on his website that has got anything to do with the WCUFO, so might that be the reason the comments were deleted?

Sheila

I just posted this, see how long it takes to disappear.
Hi Stu, I sent you an email but you haven’t replied. It said this:
https://theyflyblog.com/stuart-robbins-test-wcufo-photo/07/23/2014
What are your thoughts? Are you going to test it?
A simple yes or no would be sufficient. But a non answer simply tells me that you agree with it. Thanks for the confirmation.

I posted it on the Ken Ham thread. I tried reading those free books of Ken Hams I received from the local creation museum attendant but didn’t have the stomach for it and threw them out last week. What a bunch of garbage.

Sheila

Yeah kind of thought that Michael, since every time I go there it says no comments yet. And no darn reply to my personal email to him. You’d think he’d treat his lady fans better than that. sil