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The Billy Meier UFO contacts singularly authentic ongoing for 80 years the key to our future survival

The Peaceful People

Safely protected from our insanity simply by being in…another universe

Here is a very interesting transcript:

Extract from 345th Official Contact Report

An unauthorized and unapproved translation by Larry Driscoll on February 25, 2015

Billy:

Man, friend Ptaah, this is really a surprise. Be warmly welcomed and greeted, you universe explorer. Tell me, since when are you back here? Florena only told me today at noon, that today someone will still drop by me, but she said nothing about, that this would be you. Clearly it goes well with you and you also appear to be contented, therefore I assume, your expedition must have culminated successfully.

Ptaah:

  1. You are very pleased to see me, my friend.
  2. This applies however also on my part and it particularly pleases me to see you well and in good health.
  3. Be greeted yourself as well, –
  4. Yes, your assumption is correct, because my expedition was successful.
  5. This at least for the first venture, about which you certainly want to hear, I assume, yes?
  6. To say is this that suddenly everything very quickly has come to an end because on June 30th when we have unexpectedly found a humanity, to which a probe in space brought us when we searched for its origin.
  7. Unfortunately however, I do not have enough time at my disposal, to explain everything in detail, consequently, I will catch up on this at a later time.

Billy:

Of course. I know, because Quetzal reported to me regarding this probe. However, he was of the opinion that your expedition was to last still a longer time. Now, however start shooting – briefly and succinctly. What arises from the foreign universe? You must not be detailed, but just briefly and succinctly describe the most important events. We can talk about it at a later time in detail, as you say.

Ptaah:

  1. So then listen:
  2. Actually it appeared, that we must extend our expedition still several months, but then success arrived unexpectedly.
  3. First, after a many month long search we found a planet, on which rather still wild humans lived, who were only equipped with stone axes, stone spears and stone knives.

Billy:

Thus, cave men, respectively Stone Age humans or similar, correct?

Ptaah:

  1. Yes.
  2. The lived partly in caves, but also partly in primitive huts, which they made out of branches, leaves and moss.
  3. We were able to find 46 different groups on the planet.
  4. The planet itself had large primeval forests as well as fertile land, on which many and diverse animals roamed and fed themselves on all kinds of things.
  5. You can yourself imagine approximately the same appearance that Earth presented around six million years ago.
  6. Weeks later, after which we further penetrated into the foreign universe, we came upon a small artificial object, which was drifting through free space.
  7. When we got hold of it, we established, that it was a probe created by intelligent life forms, which certainly had served for the exploration of a planet, but however apparently was driven from its course and was thrown out into free space.
  8. So we calculated the flight path of the probe and followed it for several months, after which we then actually reached a solar system, in which about a dozen planets moved around a central star, although certainly only two of the planets were developed in such a way, that they were able to carry higher life, as we soon discovered.
  9. On one of the planets, the third, which was somewhat smaller than Earth and which was about 1.51 astronomical units distant from the sun and which travelled on its 677 day long orbit about the central star and had a self-rotation of 21 hours and 37 minutes, there existed no human, but only higher animal life forms of primeval form, as well as also this primeval condition applied to the vegetation.
  10. The second planet, somewhat greater than the Earth, had three large island continents, which existed in a large salt water ocean and were surrounded by a large number of smaller islands.
  11. Their entire mass was around one third greater than the continental masses and islands of Earth together.
  12. This planet was at a distance from the sun of 1.48 astronomical units and had a self-rotation of 22 hours and 52 minutes.
  13. The planet carried human civilizations, in fact there were three different races, which consisted of diverse peoples, who were of white, green and blue color, adding to a total number of around 498 million human beings.
  14. Our clarifications, which we carried out unobserved and without direct contact undertakings with the occupants, resulted in astonishing things as I want to explain as follows:
  15. The populations of the three continents mastered only three different languages each one with a uniform dialect, which we nowhere else have yet detected.
  16. And although the three races work together in every respect, such as, medically, scientifically and technologically, etc., they do not mix with one another in the way that there would exist marriage alliances between members of different races.
  17. All three races had the same culture, the same state of knowledge in all things and a medical science, which, highly developed, registered only just minor sicknesses, so in this respect they are far ahead of terrestrial medical and surgical science.
  18. There was nothing to find regarding religions and cults of any kind, because all three races in no way at all recognize faith, but only a kind of universal philosophy, which is based on the fact, that all life and existence arises from a higher power, which is simply called the ‘Power’ by them.
  19. This is quite reverently observed, respected and honored, however it is not worshiped and not venerated.
  20. The ‘Power’ constitutes for them all origin of life and all existence, which both comes to be, and again passes away and again comes to be, and a unity in a duality is taught, so the material and the ‘Power’, which lives in the material, passes away and again comes to be, while the material dissolves and changes into other material forms.

Billy:

This is practically the reincarnation of the spiritform. The ‘Power” would be then simply Creation and at the same time the spirit form.

Ptaah:

  1. So it is, just only with other terms, as well as also everything interpreted and understood by the occupants of the planet.
  2. Regarding these three races still is to say, that they are absolutely peaceful, in fact, both from human to human, as well as however also among the races and their peoples themselves.
  3. Wars are foreign to them just as well as hate and criminality, and purely technologically viewed, they are at the position which prevailed with Earth humans in the year 1968.

Billy:

Astonishing. Then, these human beings are far ahead of earthlings. However, how is it then with the form of government?

Ptaah:

  1. Each people decides totally on all interests, although a total representation of all three races exists, which is built in the form of an assembly of men and women, which as highest authority is to gain the required recognition of the will of the people.

Billy:

A little complicatedly expressed, my friend. If I correctly understand your words, then with these three races and their peoples so to say there exists a combined leadership, which consist of persons, respectively representatives, of all three races. This leadership personnel exists in the service of the people, respectively of all peoples and executes their decision, respectively, they are responsible for the fact, that the will of people, respectively peoples is carried out. Then it is so to say a proper democracy. And how is it with these leadership personnel, do they have then also their own power of decision.

Ptaah:

  1. Your interpretation corresponds to the sense of my words.
  2. The leadership personnel, which consists of three persons from all peoples have only executing and advisory powers of the respective peoples and they do not have their own possibility for decision.
  3. All leadership personnel are elevated to the standing of wise persons, whose duty it also is, to work out all required necessities and present them to the people, who then decide about them.
  4. The three races and all of their peoples have no other party natures at all, like this is the case with Earth humans.
  5. On the other hand they have the manner of voting in the way, as was the case since ancient times in Switzerland in the manner of rural communities, in which the majority decision applied.
  6. The interests, on which must be voted, are announced first by the leadership personnel on the day of the vote, when the people assemble and have to deliver a, for or against, vote.
  7. So therefore no previous consultations are able to be made, consequently each citizen of each people according to his own discretion and in accordance with his decision has to make his own choice.

Billy:

Interesting. How is it then with the military, respectively the armed forces?

Ptaah:

  1. Here, pure harmony and peace exists among all three races and all of their peoples for a little more than 1208 planetary years and also exist no armed forces and no weapons industries for military purposes.

Billy:

And so what about the police?

Ptaah:

  1. There is no such organization in the way, like on Earth.
  2. Security personnel are certainly existing, but these constitute an order protection and safety protection which provide for the order and safety of the population regarding natural events, by which I mean events of nature.
  3. The races and their peoples themselves live in an order, which has no degenerations, like this is the case with the people on Earth.

Billy:

So to speak, an ideal state.

Ptaah:

  1. In certain respects can actually of an ideal be spoken.

Billy:

What to me is still of interest, dear friend is their technology of locomotion. Do they have also still such primitive airplanes and automobiles, etc., like we on Earth? This is certainly to be assumed, if they have the technological position, which we possessed in 1968, am I correct?

Ptaah:

  1. Your assumption is not entirely correct, because certainly they have a similar technology of locomotion, but the drives are not sustained by explosion motors using benzene and diesel oil, but they are driven with synthetic substances.
  2. All three races and all of their peoples do not exploit the petroleum of the world.
  3. All necessary substances for all things come from plants of many kinds as well as produced synthetically.

Billy:

And the food?

Ptaah:

  1. There exist large community gardens as well as joint farming holdings, like gardens and small farms, which however are also run by individual persons or small groups.
  2. And before you ask:
  3. There are economically useful animals kept and bred for work and for food purposes, though however any form of cruelty to animals is taboo.
  4. Flesh for food of humans is solely produced through breeding and slaughtering of certain animals.
  5. Fruits, vegetables and flesh of many and diverse forms as well as all other necessary food items and required products of other kinds are in abundance and plentiful, and from this follows that nowhere does famine exist.
  6. All bodies of waters and forests, meadows, fields and marsh areas are healthy and completely intact.
  7. Chemical products are not laid down for the purposes of protection or growth of plants, but only substances, which in turn consist of natural products.
  8. Hunting for any wild game is taboo, because game flesh is likewise only produced through breeding, like this also is the case with fish flesh, etc.

Billy:

Have you also established how old the humans get to be?

Ptaah:

  1. Naturally.
  2. The average age of the humans of all three races is a uniform 128 years and death as a rule is due to old age.

Billy:

Therefore, they are regarding this also a great deal ahead of earthlings. However, what happens then with the passed away humans, I mean, how are they laid to rest – cremated or buried, etc.?

Ptaah:

  1. The deceased are laid out upon a stone bed far away from residential areas in especially created for them, individual small, yet very stable stone houses, after which the entrance is closed with rocks and boulders.
  2. After that, the deceased are left to decompose.

Billy:

Do you mean by this something like a vault? Is it with the bereaved then also as is usual on Earth, that they visit these tombs?

Ptaah:

  1. No, this does not likewise belong to tradition as well as also not the decoration of tombs with flowers, etc.
  2. Also, no inscriptions are displayed, and no ritual at all is indulged in, at the burial.
  3. Among all races exists also no fear of dying and death.
  4. The whole thing is considered and honored as a natural and inevitable event.

Billy:

So should it also be with us. Yet tell me now: You are only really able to reach this foreign universe, because in your ancient data you had the recordings of Henok at your disposal. Was Henok perhaps already over there? And do you go back again soon?

Ptaah:

  1. The recordings in accordance with certain things indicated that Henok was actually in this foreign universe.
  2. However we first must exactly still discover this, which a travel back in time back will certainly be required, precisely into the time, when Henok worked.
  3. On my part for the time being, I will not be returning back there, but a large part of our expedition remains over there, consequently it will further explore the three human races and everything around them as well as a large part of the universe.

Billy:

Good, then I do not want to ask you further about these things. Indeed, you said that you wanted to tell me more later.

Ptaah:

  1. I will do this little by little, when we talk in a private way.

Billy:

Very well.

(See the original German here.)

The Law of Causality

Here is an edited answer from this month’s Q&A with Billy Meier on the FIGU forum, regarding the IS and, of course, the role that US policies have played in setting this evil motion:

“The Islamistic State’s originator is the self-proclaimed caliph, al-Baghdadi. If the Americans would not have interfered in Iraq and had not killed Saddam Husain, he would have chocked off the IS threat at its very beginning.

(Note by CF: That’s just one more of the many catastrophic side-effects of the US war-mongering in the Middle East.)”

And we wonder why “they hate us for our freedoms”.

Many people have yelled and carried on that the IS is a creation of the US, Israel, etc., but that doesn’t in any way diminish the necessity of its being forcibly stopped as Meier began warning in November 2014.

 

On March 1, the website had it’s first visitor from the 143rd country, Sao Tome and Principe.

 

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MiroslavStanko - Saalome84Blue

This is one of the examples, what it is to live in a world without religious delusion – but unfortunately we live on this Earth…

Dennis

I enjoyed reading that, thanks!

Now I have another place of utopia to dream about! 🙂

Brock

Great to know that a group of humans are truly human and can get along…. That we can know this is possible should be an inspiration to us Earth bound people.

daniel

It only becomes possible when people start acknowledging that 2+2=4 and stop bashing each skulls in saying “yeah but my imaginary friend says it’s 3″…

Daniel Zumon

Ignoring those that cannot work out that metal in combination with science can be formed into a disk shaped flying device, is that what you mean daniel. Well we cannot do anything about that.

Jason Awuku

It just goes to show, this could have been us, if we were not “interfered” with, by the Sirius overlords.

But if we can yet survive as a species, to the point when we finally can eradicate our aggressive genes, we would be on our own way to true civilization, even greater than these 3 races.

I wonder what TV shows they would see in their “parallel universe” of 1968? The Jetsons? Maybe their own version of Star Trek? Hopefully with the original Spock, not the bearded one!

Darcy Wade Carlile

They don’t waste their precious time in front of the boob tube, that is our style of doing things.

Darcy Wade Carlile

True we don’t know that. I think that however when I think what it would be like to live there contrary to living here on the Earth.

Greg

That foreign planet sounds like a “bizarro world” compared to Earth. Sounds nice!

Dennis

I would have thought they would live much longer then 128 years without the aggressor gene there, maybe around 300 years.

They are at around our technology level but I suspect they would be way ahead of us in their spirituality level with that understanding of Creation/spirituality.

Dennis

Hi MH,

It said the planet that had the “677 day long orbit about the central star” had no human life on it. Ptaah didn’t mention the orbit period of the planet that those humans are on.

Todd

WOW! What a world to behold as an example. They probably do not need money either. Each respecting the other. Here on Earth, some may say, such a world cannot exist in reality. That’s because they do not respect or appreciate their own freedom.

Darcy Wade Carlile

I’ll bet you they do use money, because they are still human beings in material form.

Todd

Debatable given their proper (seemingly unaltered) advancement…

Darcy Wade Carlile

Only they know, we don’t know.

forto

Thanks for posting that Micheal. Many things struck me when I read that initially. Possibly a message to those who may know a little more than most, or not. I understand that we must begin with ourselves, then our families, then our communities, and then ultimately the rest, but logistically I see this as a herculean task of epic proportions within the tiny amount of time alloted to us. I constantly think at night and throughout the day, there must be something I have failed to undertsand. I must simply be plainly ignorant of certain aspects of the mission. The time it may take may exceed certain expectations, time we simply do not have, seemingly based on the logical course of events. We seem so out of touch with Creation, I myself still battle bizarre thoughts that seem to come from nowhere. I have not been able to procure the necessary books yet, but I will rest assured from Eduard. None of it seems to make sense. I recall certain conversations in the notes that stated there is no real chaos in the Universe, that all things progress in a certain way. We must be too deeply enmeshed within it at times to see our way forward at times. Many times though, I feel we will find truth. I so long that we could have even the smallest understanding as the others do. Think of the suffering we could end, the quickening of Spirit. Anyway, great post my friend.

paul russell

Green with envy and feeling blue we don’t have it yet. I wouldn’t totally discredit the aggressive gene. Managed, we could be bold explorers and federation allies. Unmanaged we ain’t s**t. Suicidal barbarians.

Daniel Zumon

Fun what you say. I just wanted to say something serious about skin briefly seeing as you brought it up. Its not green like that green girl on one of the new star-trek movie. Its more green like the plejaren green, sort of while, with an undertone of green. Lets get mildly medical about the thing. Certain genetic factors cause blueness, that is commonly understood by doctors, its kidney, liver, organs general, something about all that, that is responsible, same for yellow, its mostly liver related, and genetic, and green is another factor. These things genetic family dna composition is composed over a million years, and that composition is what makes us what we are, and different from people on other worlds, not a lot in it really, there are ofcourse other humanoid forms, but most are just regular looking, with skin variations. Just saying.

Daniel Zumon

But yeah, your right paul, unmanaged were suicidal barbarians (collectively speaking), its how humans develop their brains, their social and spiritual evolution path is determined in some way or another, but how vigorously they develop their brains through education determines the difference between a success of a race in the universe or some other situation. That is why these “peaceful” people are all at the same level of evolution, every one of them, its a creative natural law which creates stability in the universe if you can see that.

David Scott

Sure goes to show an example of harmony . I think for us Terrestrials a first step is realizing that aside from our genes being tampered with , we have more than a century of current mind control , biological control and interference , EMF control , visual influence and programming that is really altering us to an extreme degree . Just for a quick example cell phones , Wi-Fi , microwave and sonic frequencies are invisible . Yet once their was a few power upgrades with Cell towers that can harm a fetus , giving a poor little baby fetus a electrical shock and stroke many , many times before its born . Then we had 3 G and then 4 G and now facing 5 G . All increased power and different frequencies . Alter you in 3 then 4 and 5 frequency points for example . Its an example to say that we have not had the chance to be all we can be . Simply because of our lack of will to stand up to the factions that lie to us . We trust easily . One of our down falls . We need to simply inspect what we expect and be brave enough to over come the shock of what we see and discover . Band together and vigilant due process can produce the results we endeavor to implement . We just cannot sit on the couch and say we cannot . Can’t is a dirty word and a self fulfilling prophecy . Together we are more . And I have been here to simply tell you its much worse than you think , its shocking . And no way are we gonna be able to grow , even in the next life by the lessons we choose not to persue by default . I know a lot of you have not read any of the links I post , because if you had , I would know it . You would be even further imursed in reading the contact reports and further adept in your knowledge of how things work . If your American , throw away the history , because what you know is not correct . If your in another country , geoengineering is enough to inspire your one world hope . Dane from Geoengineering that I posted on the Rainforest site corroborated contact reports . I suggest you read it . Its got the potential to make differences like we just read about . We , together can be that civilized , loving our brothers and sisters , providing for all . But a dream is a dream . One step begins the journey and if you get a foot in the door you can change the world .

Daniel Zumon

If I can be honest without you loosing your focus. Its not strong what your trying to say because it veers off in directions which delude the reader. If you were to keep the entirety of what your writing within the confines of a single neat package then the strength of what your saying would be, just that, stronger.

Dont put a space before and after words and punctuation david. People will take you more seriously if you behave more seriously, like the academics do, the academics of Earth, who have been using the same basic language principle agreements for hundreds of years. Now your for some reason breaking those agreements, and you want us to take you seriously? 1 line sentences are far more powerful than a million sentences arnt they. a paragraph is more profound than a short essay, its punchy, remembered, its strong, people remember.

Daniel Zumon

I am in no position to lecture you about the behaviour as I am guilty of the same crime apparently. But maybe the difference is that I am aware of that, what do you think?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

MH,

What “foreign universe” are they talking about? Billy must be talking about something other than the DAL and DERN. Perhaps this is a translation error; and the Ps are talking about a foreign space-time configuration since universes are harder to reach. And it has been my understanding up till now that the Plejaren only had access to one other universe other than their own, the DAL through Asket.

Finding this “humanity’ must be a big deal for the Plejaren based on “To say is this that suddenly everything very quickly has come to an end because on June 30th when we have unexpectedly found a humanity, to which a probe in space brought us when we searched for its origin.”

What “has come to and end?” Here we have the proof in the pudding when it comes to application of the spiritual teaching for a better life. These people didn’t need a prophet to take them by the hands and show them what their lives are and what the world really is. No this is an uncorrupted sample of true “humanity” living within the laws and directives of Creation through natural evolution. So if I’m understanding this correctly, the Ps have not found this “ground zero” before? Up until now, the human races that they knew about needed to be helped with their spiritual growth, like us idiot Earth humans?

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“Fremd-Universum” is the German. So it is not a translation error. What’s up Figu?

Philip Brandel

Back to this thought, which is an interesting one! Where do we draw the line on ‘dimensions’ and universes. Seems as if each universe has its own dimensions, as each universe has its own galaxies? Have read before somewhere in all this information there being talk of universes on top, below, sides to side, all around one another. Infinitely expressed within the absolute absolutism of the creation of ‘creation’. This makes me think and understand a little more on the vastness and scale of what we talk about when we go into ‘creation’. When a group of humans like the Plejaren talk of barely scratching the surface and finding ENTIRE new universes it opens the mind to what and where we belong…..
Is an interesting thought to think about and yet who knows what will be tomorrow on our own crazy world, let alone trying to fathom the unfathomable.
At our present trajectory, most will be lucky to live through this worlds thinking creature created events, within our ever deluded, ignored, disrespected cause and effect.

Matt lee

Philip I think Billy and the Plejaren did unequivocally mention another seperate and independent universe other than DAL and our DERN.
This would make 3 known universes that Billy and the Plejaren ever talked about and to my recollection it was some years back that the Plejaren had discovered it.
I forgot which CR

Philip Brandel

It makes me find peace in knowing how grand of a scale that which we belong to is. It is very relaxing to know that we belong to something so grand and far reaching. Seems this same effect will someday also flow over our world, when we finally see how distorted the view of the ruling 85ish% of this world thinks.
Is amazing how simple it can be and how very complicated and delusional most have made it. Though these thoughts are probably better served to a group of people that would not see all this the same in many ways…. Challenge, fracture, wash away these thoughts that will lead us away from the delusions, and towards the truth.

Darcy Wade Carlile

Matt that’s how I understand the explanation, Billy likes to clarify those explanations further for the reader’s benefit. Contact report 345 is unauthorized and unofficial, however.

ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ

“Where do we draw the line on ‘dimensions’ and universes. Seems as if each universe has its own dimensions, as each universe has its own galaxies?”

Hi Philip,

I have covered this before; but I have since gained in understanding. Years ago, Billy’s explanation on what are the 7 dimensions was posted on the Figu forum. I think. I KNOW it was posted somewhere, maybe an old USA site? I have tried to find it again, to no avail. But since this is important to me, I have spent hours and hours meditating on Creation vs universe vs space-time configuration vs dimension, trying to figure this out based on the Figu information.

As I understand it at this moment, the problem with the English word ‘dimensions’ is that it is being misused by most everybody in the UFO, sci-fi, etc. communities. The common misconception is that for example, some sci-fi writer is talking about “going into another dimension” to reach an alternate Earth, or a parallel universe. There must be caution here because even Earth scientists are creating religion with theories like Dr. Kaku’s parallel worlds. There is NOT another YOU.

Here is where one must use logic. Since there are an infinite number of possibilities or outcomes using similar variables, there must also exist an infinite number of possible ‘dimensions’ in a given universe (the DERN for example) where things are playing out differently. For example we know that the Pleiades star cluster exists in our ‘dimension’ and we are told that its counterpart in the ‘dimension’ where the Plejaren live are called the Plejares. The same stars, but in different levels of development. And apparently the Taygeta star on the Plejares side is mature enough to maintain Erra, which on the Pleiades side it is not. They are too young. And since we know Billy is right based on his track record, he says there are only 7 dimensions. So what gives? As we know the Ps are detailed and not sloppy like the Earth humans. The Ps don’t call these infinite derivative universes of the DERN other dimensions. NO, these detailed people have a specific word for these derivative universes of specific universes like the DERN; they call these ‘universes’ “space-time configurations.” The Ps are further detailed in that they don’t call space-time configurations, parallel or divergent universes. These are not universes either because each space-time configuration of the DERN universe is STILL the same DERN configuration, only slightly out of time with each other. So the Ps have specific words for each space-time configuration of each universe (DERN); for example our space-time configuration is called the “Goran” and the Ps is called “Siras”

So naturally the Ps and Figu are detailed about the word “dimensions” too. As far as I understand it at the moment, the dimensions that are being compared are the Creational laws. So when we say we are in a different dimension, we mean that the laws of Creation, differ. Do the laws of Creation differ from the Ps Siras DERN location from ours in the Goran? NO. There are planets, stars, gases, elements, microbes, plants, animals, humans, etc. in EVERY space-time configuration. The Plejaren and their beamships are no different than the humans and their machines in our space-time configuration. They exists with the same laws and directives of Creation, so we are ALL in the same dimension. A different dimension would then be the material belt to the spiritual belts where the laws of Creation, although exist, are measured differently. For example no physical objects live in the fine matter belts, yet there are objects in the material belt. So going from the material realm to the spiritual ream is going from one dimension to another. Notice that there are 7 belts to Creation. Right now, my thinking is that the 7 dimensions that Billy is talking about have to do with the 7 belts of Creation. But this is still a work in progress.

Best regards,
Anthony

Philip Brandel

Nicely laid out and can tell you have put some thought behind it. Makes basic sense in a few ways.
You sure you are not a part of FIGU?:)
Will also be pondering this one for the rest of this life….

Darcy Wade Carlile

I think it will take you 7 lifetimes to figure it out finally.

Philip Brandel

More than that probably at this rate:)
Got to keep plugging away within the thoughts!

Chris

More advanced than us, and yet presumably they do not have computers and smartphones.
Sounds like a beautiful blue, green and white planet, that they care for and love with respect. Wonder if the Plejaren will be giving them impulses to help them develop computers and beamships so they can join the Federation. Look forward to meeting these folks in a future life, skin and personality.

Matt lee

Hi Chris
I must have missed something.
Where did you see the computer and smartphone information as I can’t seem to find it

Darcy Wade Carlile

They don’t use electromagnetic devices because electromagnetism cause mental disorders and they don’t use fossil fuels either.

Darcy Wade Carlile

Here is the explanation that spurred me into thoughts of the dangers of electromagnetic vibrations. They probably know of these dangers and they rectified the problem somehow, sometime ago. Here on Earth when we ask the leaders to do something about our power lines and cell phones causing medical problems, they hush it up because it’s bad for business or whatever their bottom line may be. 27. All three races had the same culture, the same state of knowledge in all things and a medical science, which, highly developed, registered only just minor sicknesses, so in this respect they are far ahead of terrestrial medical and surgical science.

forto

You will be waiting an exorbitant amount of time before this happens, probably many thousands of years. What people fail to understand is that the Plejeran have no interest in planets such as ours, with populations such as ours. I have struggled through this already. It’s hard at first until you realize, no matter what you experience, you are on your own. This isn’t meant as an insult or negative comment, it simply is what it is. Ptaah was correct, people here will suffer on a scale that is currently unimaginable. These are the only things we understand, however it came to be simply doesn’t matter. I see it everyday, the cold, blind eyes of Humans, nothing changes until something changes. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the Plejeran, they have no interest here other than of course, Eduard. I would comment on that, but the wise ones will know what I mean. All Humans search for truth, even them and it brought them here. We are still rather insignificant still, a pest of a population to monitor. I feel there’s more to it, but there’s very little point in continuing with it, many will not understand or agree anyway.

Terry

Very true forto.

Mark

“What people fail to understand is that the Plejeran have no interest in planets such as ours, with populations such as ours.”

I would beg to differ. Even the Plejarens are challenged by the thinking processes of earth humans. We are definitely a one of a kind planet in the Universe that has a lot to offer to even the most advanced beings. Where else could you find an insane asylum like this one?

Darcy Wade Carlile

They obviously know not to overpopulate their planet.

Terry

Good point Darcy.

Daniel Zumon

Darcy: Its based on the creative natural laws that its not overpopulated, not by decree, they know not of any such thing as overpopulation. They breed when the time is right, it feels right to breed and their lifestyle and culture facilitates that stability, their consciousness is has not been impaired by any evolutionary disparities. They are not confused and have not had extraterrestrials undermine their evolution.

Chris: The plejaren do not undermine the evolution of worlds (there human-made laws are very clear), it is only the case that its occurred on planet earth because we are in part a formulation of degenerated extraterrestrials with DNA that had in previous times been altered, by us and by them, which is only possible after a really long evolutionary period of time to do that, to develop genetic research to such an extent that it would be possible. We will never meet them. But its an interesting idea that those human would at some future time, providing their system is absolutely stable, that they would go on later to become a future advanced civilization, given that stability I mean.

You can work out all these things for yourself with the information in the contact reports.

Daniel Zumon

I forgot, they are not more advanced than us, only that their situation is more stable. But we have to look at earth, eachother, ourselves, our planetary system, evolution, to be able to work that out.

Ptaah gave us this information, for that very reason I am quite sure.

Daniel Zumon

If you can get what I said, and you can meet that level of understanding, then we could theoretically have quite an interesting conversation. We have to ask ourselves why the Plejaren have handed over so much knowledge.

Terry

That`s right MH. What really scares me is the way these politicians and these corporations are behaving with the fomenting of wars and terrorism,thse criminals and thugs just “DON`T care or give a damn” as I just heard on Democracy Now when Amy Goodman interviewed Noam Chomsky. Noam is right when he stated why these stupid crums keep making life just MISSERABLE for the rest of humanity on Earth. ” I think the P`s should take a good look at just what a horrible mess this world is in. I`m really very afraid we`ll end up with these bad malevolent unfriendly ET`s and their secretive Overlord cabals instead of joining the Plejaren Federation and other more friendly good benevolent other good federations like the Galactic Federation of worlds,etc,etc,etc. This world just keeps getting worse instead of getting better. OH, the worsts is this stupid religions which is destroying Earth with all this stupid fantisms in the Middle East countries.WW3 anyone? “NOT ME”!

Daniel Zumon

Terry they have. Their appearance is the evidence.

Daniel Zumon

Only if we believe in equality.

Darcy Wade Carlile

Creation is 100 percent negative and 100 percent positive, so creation does not determine population controls because IT/Creation is Power and not a regulator/population policeman or god or creator.

Terry

That`s right Darcy.

Dubhaltagh

If anyone want to make sense of IS and what is behind their motivation you all need to read this lengthy article but its well worth it. No mention of funding or conspiracy here just plain facts.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

forto

Yeah, I feel pretty damned uneasy lately about this whole new IS insanity. Im really not sure to be honest, how the hell we fix it all. I feel like there’s a simple, logical way of fixing things, but man, how do you reason with people who want to kill you over a delusional religious ideology? It’s really gotten quite critical here. I’m not sure how we fix this place. People just won’t listen. We must be missing something really simple.

Darcy Wade Carlile

Thousands of years of not being responsible.

Daniel Zumon

The same thing happened to the ancient greeks, the ancient egyptions. The trick is not doing that, reasoning with them as you say forto, but apparently we are not permitted that option even if it was a viable one. That is not the reason we are living on a grade zero planet forto, why Nokedemion is living on a grade zero world, why the plejaren themselves are helping a catagory zero world despite it being against their normal operational methodology. That we must perform our duty in the progress of evolution, and not develop either a fortress or some final solution type nazi plan. But instead, stand honourably behind all our various flimsy laws and edicts, hopelessly doing the right thing, until one day the people of the middle-east finally and at long last conquer their primary life affliction and begin working with reasoned life, developing it as a stable platform.

We will be a space faring civilization at that point in time, but that is besides the point and irrelevent apparently.

Terry

HI MH, J ust read your post about Ptaah`s visit to this other world. This other world certainly is doing much better than Earth,no aggressive gene there and no religion either.Iust read an article from the truthjout.org website that is very important. Please read and I hope all of us will join in preventing WW3. Peace and Planet: The wind and Rain of Nuclear Weapons Abolition Monday March 2,2015 by Joseph Garson,TRuthou/OpEd My other organization WESPAC will be protesting in Washington D.C. starting March 18th for several days against ALL wars. In April there will be protest against nuclear weapons at Cooper Union and at the United Nations(UN) in New York City. It is hoped that we can ALL stop this warmongering and the proliferation of Nuclear weapons all over this planet and learn from the Plejarens and this 1968 world with NO religion and the three races that can learn to behave and get along without money,etc,et,etc. Maybe we too can all live to be 100,200 or even 1000,2000 years old too IF we ever learn to behave and get along with one another WITHOUT religion,money,politics,corperations,etc,etc,etc. “”We NEED to get rid of the aggressive gene too”!