Safely protected from our insanity simply by being in…another universe
Here is a very interesting transcript:
Extract from 345th Official Contact Report
An unauthorized and unapproved translation by Larry Driscoll on February 25, 2015
Billy:
Man, friend Ptaah, this is really a surprise. Be warmly welcomed and greeted, you universe explorer. Tell me, since when are you back here? Florena only told me today at noon, that today someone will still drop by me, but she said nothing about, that this would be you. Clearly it goes well with you and you also appear to be contented, therefore I assume, your expedition must have culminated successfully.
Ptaah:
- You are very pleased to see me, my friend.
- This applies however also on my part and it particularly pleases me to see you well and in good health.
- Be greeted yourself as well, –
- Yes, your assumption is correct, because my expedition was successful.
- This at least for the first venture, about which you certainly want to hear, I assume, yes?
- To say is this that suddenly everything very quickly has come to an end because on June 30th when we have unexpectedly found a humanity, to which a probe in space brought us when we searched for its origin.
- Unfortunately however, I do not have enough time at my disposal, to explain everything in detail, consequently, I will catch up on this at a later time.
Billy:
Of course. I know, because Quetzal reported to me regarding this probe. However, he was of the opinion that your expedition was to last still a longer time. Now, however start shooting – briefly and succinctly. What arises from the foreign universe? You must not be detailed, but just briefly and succinctly describe the most important events. We can talk about it at a later time in detail, as you say.
Ptaah:
- So then listen:
- Actually it appeared, that we must extend our expedition still several months, but then success arrived unexpectedly.
- First, after a many month long search we found a planet, on which rather still wild humans lived, who were only equipped with stone axes, stone spears and stone knives.
Billy:
Thus, cave men, respectively Stone Age humans or similar, correct?
Ptaah:
- Yes.
- The lived partly in caves, but also partly in primitive huts, which they made out of branches, leaves and moss.
- We were able to find 46 different groups on the planet.
- The planet itself had large primeval forests as well as fertile land, on which many and diverse animals roamed and fed themselves on all kinds of things.
- You can yourself imagine approximately the same appearance that Earth presented around six million years ago.
- Weeks later, after which we further penetrated into the foreign universe, we came upon a small artificial object, which was drifting through free space.
- When we got hold of it, we established, that it was a probe created by intelligent life forms, which certainly had served for the exploration of a planet, but however apparently was driven from its course and was thrown out into free space.
- So we calculated the flight path of the probe and followed it for several months, after which we then actually reached a solar system, in which about a dozen planets moved around a central star, although certainly only two of the planets were developed in such a way, that they were able to carry higher life, as we soon discovered.
- On one of the planets, the third, which was somewhat smaller than Earth and which was about 1.51 astronomical units distant from the sun and which travelled on its 677 day long orbit about the central star and had a self-rotation of 21 hours and 37 minutes, there existed no human, but only higher animal life forms of primeval form, as well as also this primeval condition applied to the vegetation.
- The second planet, somewhat greater than the Earth, had three large island continents, which existed in a large salt water ocean and were surrounded by a large number of smaller islands.
- Their entire mass was around one third greater than the continental masses and islands of Earth together.
- This planet was at a distance from the sun of 1.48 astronomical units and had a self-rotation of 22 hours and 52 minutes.
- The planet carried human civilizations, in fact there were three different races, which consisted of diverse peoples, who were of white, green and blue color, adding to a total number of around 498 million human beings.
- Our clarifications, which we carried out unobserved and without direct contact undertakings with the occupants, resulted in astonishing things as I want to explain as follows:
- The populations of the three continents mastered only three different languages each one with a uniform dialect, which we nowhere else have yet detected.
- And although the three races work together in every respect, such as, medically, scientifically and technologically, etc., they do not mix with one another in the way that there would exist marriage alliances between members of different races.
- All three races had the same culture, the same state of knowledge in all things and a medical science, which, highly developed, registered only just minor sicknesses, so in this respect they are far ahead of terrestrial medical and surgical science.
- There was nothing to find regarding religions and cults of any kind, because all three races in no way at all recognize faith, but only a kind of universal philosophy, which is based on the fact, that all life and existence arises from a higher power, which is simply called the ‘Power’ by them.
- This is quite reverently observed, respected and honored, however it is not worshiped and not venerated.
- The ‘Power’ constitutes for them all origin of life and all existence, which both comes to be, and again passes away and again comes to be, and a unity in a duality is taught, so the material and the ‘Power’, which lives in the material, passes away and again comes to be, while the material dissolves and changes into other material forms.
Billy:
This is practically the reincarnation of the spiritform. The ‘Power” would be then simply Creation and at the same time the spirit form.
Ptaah:
- So it is, just only with other terms, as well as also everything interpreted and understood by the occupants of the planet.
- Regarding these three races still is to say, that they are absolutely peaceful, in fact, both from human to human, as well as however also among the races and their peoples themselves.
- Wars are foreign to them just as well as hate and criminality, and purely technologically viewed, they are at the position which prevailed with Earth humans in the year 1968.
Billy:
Astonishing. Then, these human beings are far ahead of earthlings. However, how is it then with the form of government?
Ptaah:
- Each people decides totally on all interests, although a total representation of all three races exists, which is built in the form of an assembly of men and women, which as highest authority is to gain the required recognition of the will of the people.
Billy:
A little complicatedly expressed, my friend. If I correctly understand your words, then with these three races and their peoples so to say there exists a combined leadership, which consist of persons, respectively representatives, of all three races. This leadership personnel exists in the service of the people, respectively of all peoples and executes their decision, respectively, they are responsible for the fact, that the will of people, respectively peoples is carried out. Then it is so to say a proper democracy. And how is it with these leadership personnel, do they have then also their own power of decision.
Ptaah:
- Your interpretation corresponds to the sense of my words.
- The leadership personnel, which consists of three persons from all peoples have only executing and advisory powers of the respective peoples and they do not have their own possibility for decision.
- All leadership personnel are elevated to the standing of wise persons, whose duty it also is, to work out all required necessities and present them to the people, who then decide about them.
- The three races and all of their peoples have no other party natures at all, like this is the case with Earth humans.
- On the other hand they have the manner of voting in the way, as was the case since ancient times in Switzerland in the manner of rural communities, in which the majority decision applied.
- The interests, on which must be voted, are announced first by the leadership personnel on the day of the vote, when the people assemble and have to deliver a, for or against, vote.
- So therefore no previous consultations are able to be made, consequently each citizen of each people according to his own discretion and in accordance with his decision has to make his own choice.
Billy:
Interesting. How is it then with the military, respectively the armed forces?
Ptaah:
- Here, pure harmony and peace exists among all three races and all of their peoples for a little more than 1208 planetary years and also exist no armed forces and no weapons industries for military purposes.
Billy:
And so what about the police?
Ptaah:
- There is no such organization in the way, like on Earth.
- Security personnel are certainly existing, but these constitute an order protection and safety protection which provide for the order and safety of the population regarding natural events, by which I mean events of nature.
- The races and their peoples themselves live in an order, which has no degenerations, like this is the case with the people on Earth.
Billy:
So to speak, an ideal state.
Ptaah:
- In certain respects can actually of an ideal be spoken.
Billy:
What to me is still of interest, dear friend is their technology of locomotion. Do they have also still such primitive airplanes and automobiles, etc., like we on Earth? This is certainly to be assumed, if they have the technological position, which we possessed in 1968, am I correct?
Ptaah:
- Your assumption is not entirely correct, because certainly they have a similar technology of locomotion, but the drives are not sustained by explosion motors using benzene and diesel oil, but they are driven with synthetic substances.
- All three races and all of their peoples do not exploit the petroleum of the world.
- All necessary substances for all things come from plants of many kinds as well as produced synthetically.
Billy:
And the food?
Ptaah:
- There exist large community gardens as well as joint farming holdings, like gardens and small farms, which however are also run by individual persons or small groups.
- And before you ask:
- There are economically useful animals kept and bred for work and for food purposes, though however any form of cruelty to animals is taboo.
- Flesh for food of humans is solely produced through breeding and slaughtering of certain animals.
- Fruits, vegetables and flesh of many and diverse forms as well as all other necessary food items and required products of other kinds are in abundance and plentiful, and from this follows that nowhere does famine exist.
- All bodies of waters and forests, meadows, fields and marsh areas are healthy and completely intact.
- Chemical products are not laid down for the purposes of protection or growth of plants, but only substances, which in turn consist of natural products.
- Hunting for any wild game is taboo, because game flesh is likewise only produced through breeding, like this also is the case with fish flesh, etc.
Billy:
Have you also established how old the humans get to be?
Ptaah:
- Naturally.
- The average age of the humans of all three races is a uniform 128 years and death as a rule is due to old age.
Billy:
Therefore, they are regarding this also a great deal ahead of earthlings. However, what happens then with the passed away humans, I mean, how are they laid to rest – cremated or buried, etc.?
Ptaah:
- The deceased are laid out upon a stone bed far away from residential areas in especially created for them, individual small, yet very stable stone houses, after which the entrance is closed with rocks and boulders.
- After that, the deceased are left to decompose.
Billy:
Do you mean by this something like a vault? Is it with the bereaved then also as is usual on Earth, that they visit these tombs?
Ptaah:
- No, this does not likewise belong to tradition as well as also not the decoration of tombs with flowers, etc.
- Also, no inscriptions are displayed, and no ritual at all is indulged in, at the burial.
- Among all races exists also no fear of dying and death.
- The whole thing is considered and honored as a natural and inevitable event.
Billy:
So should it also be with us. Yet tell me now: You are only really able to reach this foreign universe, because in your ancient data you had the recordings of Henok at your disposal. Was Henok perhaps already over there? And do you go back again soon?
Ptaah:
- The recordings in accordance with certain things indicated that Henok was actually in this foreign universe.
- However we first must exactly still discover this, which a travel back in time back will certainly be required, precisely into the time, when Henok worked.
- On my part for the time being, I will not be returning back there, but a large part of our expedition remains over there, consequently it will further explore the three human races and everything around them as well as a large part of the universe.
Billy:
Good, then I do not want to ask you further about these things. Indeed, you said that you wanted to tell me more later.
Ptaah:
- I will do this little by little, when we talk in a private way.
Billy:
Very well.
(See the original German here.)
The Law of Causality
Here is an edited answer from this month’s Q&A with Billy Meier on the FIGU forum, regarding the IS and, of course, the role that US policies have played in setting this evil motion:
“The Islamistic State’s originator is the self-proclaimed caliph, al-Baghdadi. If the Americans would not have interfered in Iraq and had not killed Saddam Husain, he would have chocked off the IS threat at its very beginning.
(Note by CF: That’s just one more of the many catastrophic side-effects of the US war-mongering in the Middle East.)”
And we wonder why “they hate us for our freedoms”.
Many people have yelled and carried on that the IS is a creation of the US, Israel, etc., but that doesn’t in any way diminish the necessity of its being forcibly stopped as Meier began warning in November 2014.
On March 1, the website had it’s first visitor from the 143rd country, Sao Tome and Principe.
This makes me think of our rich past, on our own planet. As religion is only a very current problem, delusion, issue in need of all thinking creatures to tackle, forget about, move past. Long ago, we were more in line with ‘creation’ than could most definitely be fathomed on our world today! It seems that we have most notably regressed ever farther on our journey towards the truth. How low will we go in seeing our way out? A easy answer to find with a look around our desolate world.
This planet sounds like the alter ego of our world. If anything our world creates a tough skin, something that will hopefully allow us to excel rapidly when we do become what we are destine to be. Peaceful, loving, caring, equal, wise, knowledgeable, respectful. When we have finally found and understand the real definitions, to words lost within meaning and real truth. All at the hands of half truths within beliefs that stifle the meanings to that which should be. Good thing that ‘probe’ wasn’t in this universe, around our planet! Could only imagine what horror we would unleash on such a beautiful sounding, thinking world.
Yes, I had the same idea Philip, its like neutral beings from another planet discover Earth beings who bounce around from extreme positive to extreme negative like unstable radical atoms giving off radiations of religious beliefs and false ideas.
If we could only use reason and follow a clear example of the way to live ad be in harmony with nature .. This newly discovered world sounds like a paradise .. The Ps can transport me there anytime , I’m ready .. just drop me off , let me die there , and I’m in paradise forever .. what a dream ..I’ll even paint myself green or blue no problem ..
Look good to me Barry. Even a 1968 world with white,green blue people who get along is better than this crazy loonie tune world where people just fight their way through the day just to try and get buy on this SICK world. If it weren`t for the internet we wouldn`t have found out about all these things and learned from all the information we read on the internet.
Groovy white green and blue dejeview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1c3gdRyCvo
This is one of the best posts yet I have read, including all the comments. Thanks to MH and everyone. I can only hope, somehow, we can achieve what these humans on that other world have. Forget the technology, in the important aspects they are light years ahead of us… so to speak. I hope we make it to at least their current state before we self-destruct ourselves. What a remarkably wonderful place it is, certainly caompared to our religiously messed up and contaminated world, which in my view is responsible for all the other ills if you trace it all back far enough. Oh, yes, I know, ultimately, it is “personal responsiblity.” I am just making a note of “contamination” influences.
I think we need to correct that aggressor gene manipulation first so then we can evolve slowly back to being a normal human being by learning on the way there and so and so the spirit can learn greater knowledge and wisdom and love.
Yes, that would indeed be quite beneficial (correction of the aggressor gene) but another manipulation – contamination will very likely fight / block that every step of the way, i.e. religions and their near endless faithful believing followers. They will not like, allow or tolerate, freely, manipulation / altering of the DNA of “God’s” highest creation on earth, humans. But, again, your point was taken.
You’ve not gone far enough there MikeB and can see your able.
Living for 450 years average (1200 years btw for some of us more evolved people with the means and health stability) means that people develop their brains over a longer more vigourous educational period, they conquer the god-delusional in doing so because of the richness of variety of experiences over many hundreds of years. That is then passed over to the descendants, really whether they like it or not.
MikeB the religiousity will be cured in 1 single generation after the genetic reverse manipulation has occured.
Cancer? you can forget about cancer after that, cancer will pretty much cease to exist in our humanity after the reverse manipulation. Its caused by crumpling up the life span into a 50 year package, despite still living (lifestyles) as if we did once have millenia length lives.
I can’t help thinking about C.S. Lewis and his Narnia stories. Do any of you remember the “wood between the worlds”? This is what visiting other universes reminds me of right now. You can get into some kind of “in-between the worlds” place and then from that place you can get into other universes. Make any sense? I have often thought about the dead world of Charn and its dying sun and wondered where in creation that might have been. . . . .
Another thought is that perhaps the “black holes” lead into other universes.
I can’t quite “see” that planet and its people in my own mind. . . .so am not at all familiar with that particular universe, though Billy seems to have visited that planet as Henok somewhere in the distant past.
One thing that strikes me as odd about this is I thought the Plejarens had stated that the normal lifespan for human beings was 1,000 years. And the reason we were different, having a lifespan of only 100 -120 years, is due to genetic manipulation to limit our lifespans so a revolt against the original overlords would be less likely. Yet these 3 races have a similar short lifespan. Maybe this will be explained later?
Was thinking about that too. Made me wonder with a diversity of three on this world that these humans are also long since forgotten immigrants, that have some past far out in the cosmos. Maybe part of the reason that the Plejaren and their federation are so interested in them?
Hunter Ptaah did state that Henoch was there.
This is a significant clue and must have some bearing.
I don’t know whether he was referring to the recent Henoch or the one from much earlier far back in history but despite that my assumption is that they are also harbouring the aggressive gene.
They state that these 3 group of people have achieved peace for just 1208 planetary years so that’s just a tad over what is equivalent to bit over 1 generation for the Plejaren.
They did state that these group of people’s medical knowledge far exceeds ours so this may explain how with medical science they were able to neutralise the aggressive genes for them to achieve peace.
It is my assumption that they may have also gone through an era of wars and conflict to get to where they are.
The Plejaren did that that it is Creational law for higher developed beings to help and assist the lesser developed ones therefore these 3 groups may have received help from other ET civilisations just as we are receiving help from the Plejaren.
These 3 group I believe are related to the Nokodemjon line of descendents through Henoch’s activities just as Asket is from DAL.
It won’t be a stretch to say that they are either Lyrian or Vegan.
Essentially they maybe related to us and the Plejaren.
Hi Matt,
I think you are right. They probably are a distant relative of ours. I can’t wait to hear more details about this planet and these people. It’s very interesting to see how a group of people developed without religion. How much happier, healthier and productive their lives must be without all those different belief systems. Maybe their distant descendants escaped to another universe with the help of a superior race? It sounds like a wonderland and makes me wish even more that we weren’t the rejects of the universe.
Yeah Melissa it sounds like an idealic utopian world that I would love to live in.
Here on earth no matter how good, honest, honourable, dignified, moral and ethical you want to lead your life this is often very hard to achieve because your hand is forced by the circumstances that other people, through their intentions and actions, create for you which sometimes forces you to act against your will to conform.
Obviously we are not the product of external circumstances alone as we have a freewill to choose but when you mix in societal norms, tradition, culture, manmade laws, assumed rules, social convention, organisational policies, peer pressure, other people’s expectations, shared goals based on group interests, give and take convention, reciprocal relations, loyalty to people, family ties etc it really is difficult to conform to the Creational spiritual laws and the 12 recommendations often times.
So imagine these people’s world where nearly everyone there follow the Power’s spiritual laws which doesn’t force other people’s hand to go against it.
Our world is defintely ruled by sheer selfishness, greed, lust, image obsession, profit motives, power lust and self aggrandizement of little children.
The average lifespan for the Plejaren is 1000 years. This is not the same for every human race. The “peaceful people” have an average lifespan of 128 years (not necessarily 128 Earth years though). A year on the home planet of the Ps is about the same length as a year on Earth by the way…
Good point about that AntonE – We can work that out with the data ptaah has given, its something like the 3rd or 4th rock from the sun (its malona sized) twice the size of earth or whatever, 12 planets makes the star system a well established one or whatever, with a water world habitable nearest pushing this idea of a habitable zone much further out. So we can say that this world has a longer orbital period, making their years longer – We could probably do some math with the data, but I cannot be bothered. Well noted and thought about AntonyE, you’ve made a good point there. It is possible that ptaah left the data of years in their star systems calculation. Good one.
AntonyE there is a legimate valuable position for someone to take with that. You see what I have done with the planets page here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Planets
Well I have barely gone the mile with it, I dont have the time, but might have if there was the demand, and I would have gone further if I was working with someone who was actually serious about wanting to do that.
There is a position that has been identified for a profound someone to combine all the academic known data with the CR data to fill in all the gaps to plot all kinds of different things, and predictively plot data [of planets, stars and systems] once everything has been layed out properly. like the size of stars, evolutionary stage of star, cycle and therefore age. but then from that plot its planets, their distances, and from that their size age and evolution, and from that their suitability for life, and from that data we can plot events in the star systems that have changed those factors. Knowing that the intervals between orbits and planets stages relate to the star. And it can all be worked out mathematically, using a combination of fringe theorist academic papers and what we know about our own system.
If that is something you’d like to do, or anyone reading this for that matter, and do genuinely want to do that no messing around, it would take many months and be a big undertaking and its limits really end at knowing everything we can without actually having a spaceship and looking, about planets space and stars life and evolution, I would be prepared to offer myself in any capacity I can do to help out. And would make the time for anyone wanting to do that. Thanks
The plejaren explanations are not exhaustive hunter, it would have been easier just handing over a harddrive if that was the case if we think about it.
Its based on evolution, evolutionary principles, academic evolution. Over many millions of years that length increases quantitatively, evolution lead, increase. As former extraterrestrials we learnt that by taking the dna of a lesser evolved human splicing it into a higher evolved human, we could enslave brilliant and intelligent men. The plejaren thought it was right that given that it has already occured, that they allowed it to run its course and continue, so we joined them, and here we are, chatting on a world covered in deep ocean cabling.
That is why Don made his hypothesis, and I made my hypothesis. I think its because they are on the first rungs of evolution (which strangely makes us on earth seem sort of weird looking), while Don things its because we share a lineage (which could be right too)
Indeed, i think it is a third and new foreign independent universe besides our DERN and DAL, and to think that such a planet with those three races exists only furthers my own personal view that not EVERY single human civilization whether in ours or any other universe does not progressively evolve in the exact same way or path, thus there are world where wars still rage on, there are worlds where primitive human forms are in their first epocs of development, and their are those races whose dawn of time on their planet saw no settlements of a great number of space explorers that tampered with their ancient ancestors posing as their gods and deities so thus thses three races origin lies in their own planet respectively with the way they developed and evolved from their primivite stages to their current stage, although they as any other naturally developing humans in any universe must also undergo spiritual-consiousness evolution so they underwent their own epochs of war and strife but ended up finding true peace by their own way, and indeed has lasted them now 1,200 years, a couple of factors helped this achivement, for one, no external interference to pose a gods for them in theit past thus planting the seeds for religio-cultic ideologies and practices and the fact that they somehow comprehend the natural creative law of population balance which would ensure stability and resource abundance that would otherwise provide a relative perfected peace, a prime example of a fortunate planet that otherwise spared itself a terrible future if it had gone through the same events that the earth, malona and mars went thru in their respective histories, only when the next 800 years to a 1000 when we probably already be exploring at least by then the vastness of our galaxy will our rather still simple minded scientists discover new breakthroughs that will change the way most ignorant unknowing and misled people view the universe (this doesnt apply to no one in this forum 🙂 Hopefully by that time religions and any other religio, political or cultic ideology have already begun to go extinct and forgotten.
Or it could be that because they have gone through so much pain and destruction that they finally were able to achieve peace love harmony consonance and freedom from bitter lessons learnt much as what awaits us in the future up to 800 years from now.
1208 planetary years is such a short time given their technological level of sophistication (1968).
So it is my assumption that their ancestors were part of the fleet that escaped from the restitution and factricidal wars in ancient times to end up in a different universe with Henoch and started their own civilisation.
Notice there are only 3 races blue white and green.
Where are the others?
Notice that there are no brown, black, yellow, red, orange, violet or purple races.
This may be one clue.
That explains the overlords interest in this world Hunter due to Earth humanities short life span,maby they want the people of Earth to die sooner with an even shorter life span so the` ll try to kill us sooner with their faulty religious dogmas etc,etc,etc.
Terry try disposing ideas that are strange thoughts and use the new room to store creative thoughts that coincide with the 12 recommendations handed down to us all from above.
Hi Michael : beautiful work of yours like you always do, high standards.
It is a third Universe that they’re talking about, I remember reading not to long ago, in CR maybe 220 or so the P’s mentioned that they were near to break the code to enter in another Universe and they expected to be able to do it in the next few years from back then, I’m so happy that they did, and very happy for the ending results.
On another note, I just noticed that the International Film Festival in Miami is about to start, it’s sponsored by Miami Dade college. I was thinking about your film, and those that will come in the future. I wonder if your work will be accepted in a film festival like that one. “Biases” you know.
Nice to hear from you Silvana. Most of those kinds of festivals won’t accept the film now. Perhaps after a few other things occur that are already foretold things may change, in many ways.
Thanks Michael!
This reminds of how I got to know Billy´s material. Back then Billy was just another contactee with wild claims. I first started to read contact 31 as a cool story but soon realized that these contacts are more fascinating than J.R Tolkien and George Lucas put together. After reading more, it became evident that its all real and that many of the sci-fi writers were actually more accurate than the so called contactees. According to many of the frauds we are a “special” case, yes that is right, we are the only known planet with crazy religions.
If there is someone still in doubt about Billy´s prophetic accuracy, just look up what he had to say about pedophilia, prostitution and drugs and compere it to how its playing out in the world right now.
Timeline of abuse from the 1980´s in the UK
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28195580
Sex, drugs and the EU budget
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29753529
We are lucky to have our leaders who “keeping the wheels of economy moving”.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-02/world-leading-economist-and-advisor-chancellor-osborne-busted-smoking-crack-cocaine
Eric where did you hear that “we are the only known planet with crazy religions”.?
We’ve taken religion further than any other planet the plejaren and askets people have ever discovered. Not the only no, as you say, but the furthest evolved into insanity, we’ve really punched right into the premium tier of insanity on earth, but that does not mean everyone either (obviously, and given the exact statistics they have provided us). We’ve also take the elementary principles of trade and the money-economy further than any other world, meaning, the trade of trade of trade, the speculative futures markets and the tax avoidance money havens etc etc. There is in a galaxy somewhere else, probably very far away and not neibouring (in this time shifted dimension aka universe) a multi-cultural world with 10-12 different races, which is rare, we are a rare occurance on earth, especially given that we went though A: a medieval age, and B: still have artifacts from a previous civilization, which would usually have degraded and turned to dust by now in a normal situation, only possible with tiny 80 year lives, maybe you could politely ask MH to pull that one out (contact report) for you so that there is a contrasting blog article to this one.
There is a tremendous amount of confusion in what most people post on this forum, If I may re-iterate, ALL the answers and every possible combination of information has been given already over the last 3-4 decades. You need not wonder if you dont wish to.
Wow I am the first one to view this version of Silent Revolution of the Truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBw5RX11lA
Anthony this below passage indicated to me that their planet is very similar in size to our and the Plejaren planet.
22. This planet was at a distance from the sun of 1.48 astronomical units and had a self-rotation of 22 hours and 52 minutes.
So it would appear that their lifespan is a tad bit over ours here on earth.
It does also appear that since they are descendents of Henoch/Nokodemjon they are also suffering from the aging gene.
This is just my own assumption.
Matt,
I think you are on to something with Henoch being the source of the aging gene in the newly found universe. I really think naturally humans have much longer lifespans than a little over a hundred years. I think that these people are dong better than us making it over 100 because they are in line with the Universe and growing in conscious. If these people had solved it with science, they would have much longer spans, probably 350 years or so. This is just a guess.
(Figu, can we please have a name for this newly discovered universe? Patric is it, who monitors this board in Switzerland?)
Cheers!
Anthony
Yeah even in the stupid bible it mentions all these Abrahamic characters living for hundreds of years.
I don’t think that passage in the bible was metaphorically speaking either.
I mean if I could extend the bow a little, any significant engineering works such as the Great pyramids all over the world requires incredible planning not to mention logistics.
Since there are no records found as yet on how the ancients built these incredible structures it behoves one to ponder whether the planners and builders had a longer lifespans than we currently have at this time for them to achieve the continuity of knowledge and expertise to complete these structures as oppose to people dying so soon from short lifespan that may have made it impossible to hand down the required skill, expertise and knowledge.
It must have taken a great lifespan for the knowledge keepers for them to be able to complete all these pyramids located all over the world which must have taken hundreds of years.
Even if the Giza pyramids took 20 years and hundreds of thousands of workers and slaves to complete it this is mere a drop in the bucket seeing as there are literally thousands upon thousands of pyramids of considerable size all over the world which of course was not built simultaneously but was done in staggered fashion over many centuries.
So a long lifespan must have been crucial to its success as oppose to smooth transition of knowledge from one generation to another seeing as there are no written records of any kind right now whether they even had a writing let alone on how they built these pyramids.
This was great to read yesterday. It’s something special I think to be able to graft the idea of these peaceful people into my psyche. It was a real nice “treat” in my opinion.
Yes it’s nice to dream the ideal life.
If these people also carry our aggressor gene, then how come there was no mentioned in CR 251 of people fleeing to that other universe?
Dennis to my recollection the Plejaren didn’t discover the new universe when the CR 251 was conducted.
Maybe it was way after this contact that the Plejaren discovered the new universe.
MH, I just heard that that world was decendent of the Henok/Nokodemion lineage but regected that lineage. Question; Why are the people of Earth including you and me not part of the Henok/Noikodemion line? Why so short a lifespan due to our DNA/RNA,where is the logic and reasoning beninde our faulty DNA/RNA. This dosn`t sense to me at all. If we did not originate on Earth,why did we lose all the Henok/Nokodemion lineage? Where in living Creation did we lose all of this Henok/Nokodeion lineage? Why and where did we go wrong here? Is there any chance we could all go back gain where we should have learned in the first place not to reject the Henok/Nokodemion lineage,what gives?
Beats me.
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Read contact report 251, Terry. It will at least explain the topic of where the shortened lifespan came from. It is perhaps not very nice, but it is what it is. No sense in griping about it. And being a barbariac human living on a barbaric perhaps isn’t the worst thing. We could be media celebrities twerking for fame and prestige.
Hi Tyler, Thanks for the info but I`m afraid to read anything too negative and nasty. Yes we are savage barbarians and putting up with that kind of attitude and behavior is enough on my mind. I try not to think negative thoughts if I can help itsince I have enough negativity going on in my life. On Erra you`re not allowed to think negative thou,brsides hgts because it hurts their psyche and the people on Erra through you off their planet for thinking negative thoughs since the people on Erra are telepaths who can read your mind and find out what you are thinking. You have to watch what you are thinking on Erra, therefore it is not wise to think bad thoughts. So for me to read CR 251 is just not agood idea for me but thanks anyway. I just want to know why the people of Earth went on the wrong path that they did. Just look at where we are now, it`s just awful!
It’s not all gloom and doom. CR 251 mentions amazing things, too. Like our return to 450 year lifespans, time travel, space stations, and many new technologies. We are in for an interesting few centuries, even with the problems considered. I’m not sure where you are getting the idea that negative thinking is discouraged on Erra, though, maybe I missed a contact but seems to me they just have dealt with a lot of things that would lead to wars like we have here on Earth. (Plus they don’t have the genetic mutation that makes us Earth people inhumane in the first place, all discussed in CR 251.) But they must’ve needed some negative thinking in my opinion or else how could they acknowledge the problems going on here on Earth? Maybe I have more to learn regarding what negative thinking is, in fact I guarantee that I do. But to me it’s better to consider some of the negative along with the positive. Otherwise how do I even know what I’m fighting for or against?
Interesting thought Taylor and the whole negative/positive thing is something I think about almost daily…. Within trying to be neutral positive at all times.
Seems sometimes that those the most negative have the hardest time looking at the negative. As they do not know how to look past it to see the positive within its needed change, within thoughts, feelings, actions. It seems the equation is never complete unless both spheres are filtered respectably. As we will never learn and change the negatives of our world without at least acknowledging it and trying to alter it within positive neutral thoughts. The ‘creation’ is most definitely made up of both spheres!
Tyler is the one that is in the right here in what he is explaining. Terry we have to individually conquer our emotionalism and the way in which we assess information. Much of the information in contact 251 has been completely changed, and is not even valid any longer.
And none of the prophecies and predictions effect everyone, thinking that they effect everyone is in and of itself god-delusion in use, and being practiced. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again for all the insane people. If you buy a little log cabin in the middle of a national park somewhere wild, live off the land, then my prediction for you is that you will die of old age or eating a poisonous berry or something similarly trivial. There are insane people that read contact report 251 yeah, and they really should get a grip on where they are before investing time in transforming it into another god-delusion, freewill and changing contact 251 is only available to those that have got a grip, aka have conquered their fear of life, and have positioned themselves in the world in absense of the god-delusional features.
Have you ever read and seen (independant study) that community in india who live alongside deadly poisonous snakes, but because of their heritage, cultural acceptance they trivially sit, lay, sleep and live alongside them, the snakes just wander though and they are chilled out. Well that is an example of an inverse of this term “know-it-all” because they really do know it all, and can be blase, and chilled out, because death by a bite is incredibly rare and they know it, given their relationship that has been established, over a thousand years. – In the west we dont even know what heritage, cultural identity, community, civilization, any of this means, and anyone confused about this contact report about these “peaceful” people, really should examine what all these various different things means, capitalism, consumerism, evolutionary disparity, genetic legacy, religion, belief, – because unless you do that, there is no point in reading any of this stuff, unless you make it applicable to your life and what you know.
Its complicated, but its clear you have not familiaried yourself with all the various different arrangments [terry] as presented in the contact reports. The genetic DNA/RNA, stems way way back (aka original sin aka original imported sin) to an entirely different world. I cant be bothered to explain anything because that is the entire point of the contact reports, and why bother when they are so beautifully presented.
The plejaren believe in allowing creation to evolve, and to running its course the way it was always meant to (if you dont know what evolution is then there is no point in explaining anything to anyone ever). BEAM and this idea of the “Henok/Nokodemion lineage” as you call it, is confused, your confused about that. We cannot go back in time no, the past is unchangeable and that is a creative natural law of evolution, so dont even bother venturing with your mind into that territory. There is no reasoning and logic behind it, it was originally established with a group on another world to keep as slaves. It was then transferred to other worlds as they managed to escape with the help of extraterrestrials. We hid here, in the SOL system, because it has a dying star which for any extraterrestrial race is an indication that the particular star system is not going to be selected for human habitation.
So what about atlantis you ask Terry. Well atlantis is the key to understanding where you are, and what your trying to ask and explain. Because the laws of the plejaren are the way the are (man-made laws), in preservation of evolution and not interferring on other worlds, the only option to help the humans of earth was to die [on earth] and incarnate alongside of them. It was the only viable way of undermining the earth evolution, ensuring they did in fact rectify the genetic legacy, and carry on a normal evolution. So you ask then at that point, so why did they not just do that, before they died. Well there in lies what your actually trying to ask, and why your fundamentally confused. They saw that the fate of doing such a thing was the destruction of atlantis as they already had time devices, so they turned it into a long term plan, a goal. This is where Henok steps into your question, because it was already seen to have been going to occur.
If you dont read the contact reports there is no point in bothering, or concerning yourself with it, if you dont wish to undertake independant study to answer your questions that have been exhaustively answered already there is no point in bothering.
So now knowing that the P’s expeditionary group has penetrated into a foreign universe, the 3rd universe that they’re potentially disclosing at this time, then this brings up an interesting point. That by the commentary by Ptaah about Henok having been to this very same universe based on the ancient data does not necessarily confirm that any of these 3 races of people are from the lineage Henok, or familiar with Henok or Nokodemjon and the spirit teaching etc. Of course the opposite possibility could still exist. The possibility also exist that these 3 human races unfettered by religion and politics and overpopulation were unrestrained in their development to run the “Creational course of evolution naturally”. Undoubtedly more will surface with the release of new information from the P’ s continued investigation into this star system. Thanks for another interesting blog Michael.
Ah Don, that is interesting what you say. So your saying that these people have the genetic legacy, have evolved a bit peacefully (without extraterrestrial intervention) and increased its uniform to 128 years (a further 1 million years being necessary to conquer it entirely). And that at a previous time they made their way into that particular time-shifted dimension or universe barrier (whichever the case may be), have since degenerated in a similar way to the atlantis descendants, but since the world they selected did not have 3 indigenous races occupying it, they have been able to establish peace.
My thoughts about that is that if it is another universe altogether (as opposed to a time-shifted dimension), then the nokedemion concept of coming back from the arahat athersata would not apply, as the arahat athersata applies only to individual universes. It would however be different if it was simply a time-shifted dimension, in this, our universe.
Don you’ve really taken me aback by what you’ve said, its the most profound thing I have ever heard anyone say on any of these forums, ever. What you’ve began to explain there is that its Nokedemion/Henok/BEAM that is the problem, none of this other stuff people bang on about, that its this spirit Nokedemion, that has caused us all the hardship, confusion over millenia, destroyed our fighting chance for stability. Whether you like it or not that is what you’ve said, and as I said, its the most profound concept I have ever read by anyone, ever. And the more I think about what you’ve begun to explain, within all the contexts that you’ve presented, the more it all begins to make more and more sense. The destruction of what Jmanuel taught all that time ago, ruling and dominating our lives in the current time, and every 500 years and in every life, it all stems back to Nokedemion and the presence on earth. Had Nokedemion not been present in other ways of wording, then none of the current situation would exist. Its because the Nokedemion evolution pushes the average evolutionary age of the earth human all the way up to 30 million years, even though the real average is 5 million.
Well that is the most profound thing Don I have ever heard from any of these men and women who speak about all this stuff. It explains why religion and capitalism has seen a boost so great that earth is known for having pushed these 2 particulars further than any other world in the entire universe (assuming we factor in the oncoming millenia into that appreciation of our evolution and world). Well done Don, its certainly something I am not going to be able to forget for some time, atleast. Profound man.
Er, Daniel, have you ever heard of…self-responsibility?
Ofcourse, I am just doing as BEAM himself does and to sit on the fence in neutrality, it is still a lesson to be learnt, an observation to make, the past cannot be changed and the Nokedemion spirit would not have done as it was always going to do had their not been a platform in time there waiting.
I am all too aware of self-responsibility, after all my endeavors in studying history and what not, the injustice speaks for itself, richard dawkins book the god-delusion struck me as an absolutely necessary read. Were more likely to find an ancient greek in one of the german speaking countries today, to find a great ancient egyption in north america and uk, an atlantian in any 1st world country.
Meier doesn’t “sit on the fence in neutrality”. One can have a position, opinion, etc., and still maintain neutrality. Neutrality isn’t spineless, wishy-washy, smiley face stuff.
In which case MH it couldnt be clearer what I am saying here then could it (as you know what the definition of that word is). Im stating very clearly that its BEAM, the Plejaren and the extraterrestrials that died on earth in ancient times, that is the problem on earth, and exclusively from an evolutionary perspective. Earth inherently does not suffer any afflictions of any type, size or sort (even the destroyer comet has nothing to do with this star system).
You wouldn’t even have any idea of the previous history of Earth without the Meier material. We also have, in addition to these histories, the spiritual teaching, which informs us that each of us is solely responsible for everything in our own lives.
So one would really have to go back select out also all of the “good” things that occurred on Earth and blame/credit the ETs with that too. And then of course we’d have to completely gloss over how it was that Earth human beings took the evolutionary information and, each previous time, screwed it up all on their own.
So no, it can hardly be said that they are “the problem on earth, and exclusively from an evolutionary perspective.” We’d still be even more primitive knuckle draggers had not these things occurred. Would we have been better off ultimately? Who knows. But as the old saying goes, “That was then, this is…now.” I suggest we don’t play fantasy blame games and get on with the work of self-responsibility at hand.