Conveying the truth about a possible break in the very cycle of life
I’ve met more than a few people who issue essentially the same challenge, “Well, you show me some prediction that Billy Meier already made about what’s going to happen in the future and maybe then I’ll take it seriously.”
While there is no shortage of specific examples of already corroborated, prophetically accurate information, which are also constantly added to on this blog, the challenge is more a reflection on the self-absorbed, self-important, state of mind of people who have allowed themselves to slip into various religious, political and/or trendy delusions and for whom life has essentially become an entertainment seeking exercise.
Phantasmagoria
As Meier already also predicted, in 1958, they are people seduced by phantasmagoria whose “sense of reality disappears and they can no longer distinguish between reality and fiction”. Ironically, many of them actually consider themselves to be hardcore realists, skeptics, etc.
Conveying the Truth
The breakdown of the global conveyor belt is no fiction.
They all pointed out that, once again, Billy Meier’s information, this time from Contact 544, is specific and painfully prophetically accurate:
This is also the contact in which Meier discusses the probable breakdown of the US, by 2020, which he was first advised about in 1975. We may wish to also refer to his first warnings, in 1981 and 1987, about the two coming civil wars. While it’s said that hindsight is 20/20 vision, this vision of 2020 should offer foresight sufficient to awaken at least some people out of their stupor.
Problem-Solution
For those who still don’t know, Billy Meier was also the first person to warn of unnatural, manmade climate and climbing global warming, among many other things, in the 1950s*. For decades his warnings have been available but largely unheeded.
As was recently also pointed out**, the study of the spiritual teaching is the essential remedy to our very threatened future survival. For those who wish to delve even deeper, this is a very good time to acquire The Spiritual Teaching in Everyday Life, which contains also the ultimate how-to book on thinking, The Might of the Thoughts.
See also:
To Understand What Is Already Happening…and Yet to Come
*Billy Meier’s Environmental Warnings
**The Spiritual Teaching: The Reason for the Billy Meier UFO Contacts
Thanks to Nick Majchrzak.
On behalf of Canada, I apologize for Ted Cruz.
…and for Bieber.
Spot on Michael. This is incredibly serious…..we had 2 feet of snow fell in Bogota, Colombia fall as reported by http://colombiareports.co/welcome-to-the-tropics-bogota-covered-in-24-inches-of-snow/ . No worse a blind man than he whom refuses to see~!
“I’ve met more than a few people who issue essentially the same challenge, “Well, you show me some prediction that Billy Meier already made about what’s going to happen in the future and maybe then I’ll take it seriously.”
You are right this is religion. So don’t “show” them anything. Instead, encourage them to check out all the thousands of pages of English translations at the various official Figu sites. In other words encourage them to take self responsibility. If the human being is not willing to check this out for themselves, and check out the reasonableness of not just the prophecies, but also the spiritual teaching, the sciences, the universe of topics, etc, then let them be.
So when these babies say “show me the truth,” your answer should be something like “go find it yourself, here is where to look. Don’t get back to me unless you have looked over numerous translations or the German. Then we can discuss why I think I found the truth.”
” MOST of this dangerous savage child race has NO idea just what will happen to them if they don`t read the prophecies and preictions that our reveran Bill selled out for them. These very dangerous childish people fro Earth SHOULD AND MUST HEED these predictions and READ AND STUDY the spiritual teachings so that this world called Earth will GROW UP AND EVOLE AND STOP FIGHTING WARS AND KILLING people in the name of religion,poliics,TPP, TTIP,and TPA which is Trade Promotion Authority for cencorship on the internet, cheap[ low wage jobs abroad,dirty fosil fues and nuclear power including nuclear bombs,I could go on and on etc,etc,etc. Star Trek`s Q is right we STILL HAVE ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO”!
Every government Terry produces a 20-30-40 year future forecast pdf document amounting to some 300-400 pages or whatever. Which details based on historical data, market trends, changes in behaviour, various financial data, independant studies by leading thinkers etc etc. Not sure what country you are from, but see if you can track down the various documents produced by your government (usually produced by a third-party independant body) on their tax-payers behalf, and have a look at all the various data, impressive data that they have collected. A similar thing occurs with private institions, in fact that is how the government manages to oversee things as clearly as they do, because of these independantly produced documents. Like from the banks, economists, think tanks, law firms, statistics gatherers surveys etc.
They are very well aware of all the various possibilities, that its cyclic and some things can be done about some things, and not so much about other things. They have all kinds of mechanisms in place already for a political, economic, monetary collapse etc, having learnt the lessons many many times over already historically.
The only thing that would prevent the prophecy about america is a dictatorship and people are not going to accept that, even though interestingly enough it already looks like that if we evaluate who is who and what is going on here and there and how everything fits together, only its unlabelled apparently.
So therefore its only consciousness that will prevent it, and thats exactly what the plejaren are trying to explain if you see.
You should not stress so much about the future. Because if you keep your head skrewed on properly, if any kind of disaster is going to occur ever, anywhere, then if your calm, cognitive, relaxed yet fully awake docile, then if there is say a tsunami you can just get into a car and take a relaxed drive in that direction away from it, put the radio classicFM on. Or a volcano, a relaxing strole wander over that mountain ridge a historically barrier. Or an overthrow of a government, a relaxing coffee at a seat away from the window in a local cafe. Or an alien invasion, a relaxing beer by the local swimming pool. Or a monetary collapse, some fine cuisine in a countryside restaurant. Chill, and you’ll be safer.
Daniel, I`m fro North America in New York State. Not sure I can track down all this information on the internet. This to me is heave heavy research that would be a very long painstaking ordeal and I`m not sure if I can find the time to track all this information down. Searching for all this on the internet would take me forever to search around. Wish I had the time. I`m quite busy right now at the moment for awhile at least until the summer. Sorry I can`t be of more help at the moment.
That is understandable, I barely bothered reading all of it either, in this case we can just settle for the idea that this information does exist. Given that it does exist we can conclude that governments are knowing, they are not in the dark or unknowing about things. Important conclusion.
They’re also very aware of a financial collapse over the next however many years it might take, that its inevitably really, the people that are paid by our governments know everything and I mean everything. So we then have to work with a different tune dont we Terry. They already know, so why is nothing ever done about anything ever. Well they do all they can basically, well all do, and we have all done our very best for hundreds of thousands of years.
Terry,
I’ve set you two emails. Please email me directly so I can send your DVDs.
MIchael, I Ordered Standing In Spirit and Spiritual Teaching in Everyday Life which has the English subtitles. I Also ordered the 3 discount offer you mentioned during or right after the Christmas Holliday Special 15% off etc. I wanted to take advantage of the discount December 2014/January 2015 Discount Special. Sorry for the mixup. I try to avoid Email due to all the spying on the internet. I`m a strong believer in privacy thanks to my other organization WESPAC. As a matter of fact WESPAC is trying very hard to stop the TPP,TTIP, and the TPA which is Trade Promotion Authority. “If it weren`t for WESPAC, FIGU, They Fly.com,and the internet I would have NVER EVER have known about all these things”. I hope this clears things up. Sorry about that.:)))
Hi Terry,
I’m sorry too for any mix up.
I leave in the morning so I’ll have to fill the order when I’m back in about 10 days. I’m sorry for any further delay but do know I’ll get everything out to you as soon as I return. Please also email me your address…that will make it easier!
@ᴉɐɯɐdɥouǝʎ: I reckon MH has the patience of a loving parent who chooses to babies as always needing the wisdom of the elders to show them the way with a healthy measure of patience and care. We all win when they wake up my good man 🙂 Bravo and deepest gratitude to MH for his tenacious and dedicated work. It is incumbent upon us all to do all that we can, even more so now, to not behave like those whom are asleep, deaf and consciously choose not to open their eyes……and there shall be peace on earth….!
@ Terry: please correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall we are somewhere in the early phase of the seconds stage of the the seven stages of The Human Spirit Evolution (Reasoned Life), in spite of it resembling more like Primitive Life 🙁 Love the “Q” mate, and may we always continue to have ALOT OF GROWING UP TO DO, for there is nothing else to do in CREATION but to evolve and grow, FOREVER – its the only game in town. Glory be to Creation – Thank you LIFE for LIFE ITSELF.
Salome to all and thank you Michael Horn for this blog. To BEAM for his foundational work. To the Plejaren for their unwavering support. and to the Federation of Planets for the SALOME Peace Meditation~!
Let the light so shine that everyone can see how special LIFE truly is……thank you.
Hello Arie,
“We all win when they wake up my good man 🙂 Bravo and deepest gratitude to MH for his tenacious and dedicated work.”
People have to wake themselves up. It is NOT what YOU (MH) want for them; people have to want this for themselves. MH is contributing to religion when he chases these babies with the truth. Let people come to the truth themselves!!!! All MH has to do is have a great big sign over the door and a wealth of information behind that door for folks to wake themselves up.
Regards,
Anthony
I don’t see any chasing of anyone, contributing to religion, etc. Let’s remember that people who come to events, contact me, proclaim themselves as UFO enthusiasts, skeptical attackers, scientists, etc., are putting out information and also, thereby, inviting information, rebuttal, etc., on this information highway.
The fact also is that many people who are glad to have found the Meier information did so because it was placed, made available, argued, debated, attacked, published, etc., in any and all of these manors. There’s a very big difference between entering into the active, social discussion and “contributing to religion”.
Michael,
You are not understanding me. I am all for “placing, making available, arguing, debating, attacking nonsense, publishing, ect” However it is religious to show/hand/give/deliver people the truth when they are not trying to dig for it themselves. You need to encourage self-responsibility; that is the just of my post.
I’m talking about the children who cry “…show me some prediction that Billy Meier already made about what’s going to happen in the future and maybe then I’ll take it seriously.” These types are not “placing, making available, arguing, debating, attacking nonsense, publishing, ect” No… they want someone else to hand them the answer!!! This is what you need to stop doing, if you are doing it.
Kind regards,
Anthony
I see absolutely no harm in answering/addressing the question, request, challenge. It’s entirely another matter to approach people out of nowhere and start to offer them information that they haven’t asked for in some manner.
You know that FIGU’s own mission isn’t one of actively engaging people but rather mainly making the information available also to those who have chosen to bring it forward. We’re also not going to “hide the light under the bushel” in some falsely modest way, any more than it’s appropriate to coerce, missionize, etc.
Here is Billy’s answer about the subject from the forthcoming new book, hwerein he answers about 70 questions.
12. What is the best way for the public to assist the FIGU mission?
Answer:
The best way to go public with respect to spreading the FIGU mission and the ‘Teaching of truth, Teaching of Spirit, Teaching of Life’, as well as to support the general FIGU mission – which also includes the existence of the Plejaren with their beamships, etc. Leads over the seven following points:
1.The human is itself: First and foremost the self-study of the teaching is in
the foreground, to learn true humanity in compliance with the natural-
creative laws and recommendations to live and to follow them.
2. The ‘teaching of Truth, teaching of Spirit, teaching of Life’ should be spread when the people are personally made aware of it.
This can only happen then when the concerning people ask out of their own interest, but never followed by a missionizing, but only by informing in a businesslike manner and without pathos. When there is interest, free pamphlets can be given or books can be sold against cost price.
3. The spreading of the mission can succeed by means of information-stands, from which free pamphlets can handed out to interested people, when this is wished from the interested people. Without exception the visitors of such information stands are not being addressed by the people who run the information stand, and also not missionized, but only responded when the interested people ask themselves. As a rule its not allowed to sell books and writings at an information stand unless the authorities allow it.
4. To spread the mission and the teaching, relevant lectures can be held, to which interested people in the mission and the teaching can voluntarily participate. Such lectures can also be held with DVDs and movies, etc., as well with the sale of books and pamphlets and also done against an reasonable entry fee to cover the expenses.
5. To spread the mission and the teaching for interested people, free or ticketed information hours or evenings can be held, coupled with handing out free pamphlets as well selling of books and writings.
6. To disseminate the mission and teaching by means of neutral and non-missionary interviews and information through radio broadcasts.
7. For the dissemination of the mission and the teaching, non-missionary interviews and information in word, pictures and film, etc., can be spread over television.
NOTE from MH: You may also be aware that such stands are volunteered in Europe, Canada, etc., but strangely enough are practically unknown here. Obviously there’s a great opportunity for anyone who wants to do it the “right way” to become proactive and do so.
Its because were frustrated that only a solo single one thousand individuals over the entire planet have any possible capacity to understand any of this information to make useful sense out of it. I’m just placing that in a neutral observation placement. And maybe I agree with what your both saying, that we should probably get over that, identify individually that we are in some way special for all it could possibly be worth, that we have been able to question more and go further in our ideas than the great majority of humanity, and just get over it that we might have been greeted readily by a larger number of people. I accept what your explaining, that for whatever reason we have been able to move much further into the ideas. And that yes, we have to just be tollerant and whatever else.
The problem is I find the UFO community incredibly bland dull based exclusively on the fact that plejaren beamships do not have lights, very simple fact that causes me to ignore it all, turned off by it all. On some level I am glad and thankful for the work people like MH does to reach these people, because I for one certainly dont have it in me. – So thank you MH 🙂 for that
What your basically outlining there anthony is to not bother with anything ever. On some level I can agree on another level I find the principle deplorable and certainly not a philosophy I will abreast.
Heres an example; a child is raised by a father who is wise, peaceful environment has many books all over the home and information which he diseminates worldwide through a community of shared interests group, but the father offers none of it unless he is promted for it, only then it is limited to the specific questioning. The child then reaches adulthood finds himself without any real clue as to what to do and where to be understandably, goes through something like a mid-life crisis, the father then steps in because he feels some level sympathy, attempts to teach the son a lesson he never taught before in the ways of the world, sues the son for not having developed a clear sense of direction of his own volition, the son then finds himself being advised by all kinds of different people, the son is woken up as you say by other people contributing their recommendations, guidance and situation based lessons.
I recommend being incredibly careful then in that case, if your joining the rest of humanity in taking that position. Everything you’ve ever worked for will be taken from you potentially, none of your achievements will be of any value, everything will be reworked. Which is ok, its just important that your in acknowledgement of that, that you dont hold onto anything too tightly, I mean even the laws you think you know will be of no value to stand behind confidently. Even the basic social agreements you think you know will be of no value, assuming none of it is passed over to the newly forming brains.
I’m just putting that out there and saying.
“…basically outlining there anthony is to not bother with anything ever.”
No. This is not what I am saying. I am saying not to spoon feed adults. Show folks the dinner table; but don’t tell them what to eat or eat for them.
This is basic spiritual teaching. Any student of the spiritual teaching can see the value in allowing every human to take self-responsibility.
You make your point very clear, all of you do, its not going to take me too long to come to terms with it because I have done that some time ago already. It is as you say it is “allowing every human to take self-responsibility”, and that is why I am not going to be wasting/pissing any more of my time away with the information, but to instead take your advice and look to the individual national level, to those that are paid to diseminate information properly, democratically on behalf of the people, paid by the people for information they need at the given time. As I had been doing all along to be fair. But thank you for coming clean about the position at long last, it really should not have been such an entertaining read if that was your goal.
“…instead take your advice and look to the individual national level, to those that are paid to diseminate information properly, democratically on behalf of the people, paid by the people for information they need at the given time.”
What are you talking about? You are not seeing reality. Perhaps it would be best if you thought more and posted less? Take a break from posting numerous things one right after the other? Less can be more…
Kind regards,
Anthony
I think you’ve been listening too much to alex jones Anthony. I meant what I said, and it is based in fact and the truth. That governments, ALL of them produce hundreds of documents annually which are designed to assess and measure all kinds of different things in the entire world. Its done nationally for a reason, because reality is what they are looking at. Your wrong Anthony, not me, you will delude people if you tell them that governments dont know anything about anything.
It is my belief that when people discover the “truth” they will recognize it, unless they are totally brainwashed by the “system” that is in place here on the earth and are fearful that their lives will be disrupted by any revelation of “truth”. When I saw BEAM for the first time about a year ago, my initial thought was, “So, he’s still alive!” (which means that in my subconscious mind I was already aware of BEAM, and just needed the external visual stimulus from the image on the computer screen to activate that subconscious knowledge). I think that most people carry around with them a great deal of subconscious knowledge from previous lives that to a great extent they carefully suppress and block from their consciousness. This is why our dreams are so important. It is through dreams that the subconscious mind makes itself manifest. . . . sometimes we dream about situations and people we have never met in our “real” lives. We should pay much attention to our dream life, even making a great effort to remember and write down dreams, because this is how we can come into some kind of knowledge of our past existence and memories that would otherwise be suppressed and never see the light of day. . . .
You drive a quality argument here MH, and beaufully written, thank you.
Its a question of risk isnt it, if we boil it down. The education delivered on earth is so good, its so vigourous that everything that does not have a firm rooting within the safety of market forces is written off, and its safer to reason like that than to challenge or contemplate the times in which we live, and maybe they are right I cannot be sure.
Unable, unsure, inaccessible, non-confident, to take a risk, just as you have done MH. But if we were all able to access your honesty MH we would probably find that as a result of the risk that you’ve taken in the exploration of diverse fields of knowledge, that you’ve found quite interesting currents, seams of knowledge, untapped misunderstood fields of knowledge and despite everything you have still in fact found various shades of comfort in your life and your ability to continue life, found quite an interesting legitimate path through life. So then what becomes clear is that earth needs premium quality leaders dotted all over the place, planet.
As you say “Ironically, many of them actually consider themselves to be hardcore realists, skeptics, etc.”, this applies to those that write off the detailing held in subjects, it can actually be named a disease when people are negative to gain a positive answer, but we know its because they already percieve the right answer dont we.
The study of evolution for example. It is clear that if we carefully select 2 men based on some private understanding, and then compare the pair of them, their brains, we compare their brain, spiritual psyche development disk or whatever that is technically called. So say we take A.Einsteins psyche spiritual brain development disk, and some regular guy from any regular city street. We find that there are various blockers (maybe mild prejudices) things to still get over, to overcome. We get most of our education and knowledge from our culture, society and those that surround us, come into contact with, learn from, even through video. So that regular guy comparitively may have something to get over in terms of realising that for example we each individually hold and develop individually our consciousness and steer it in the way we wish to some extent, but only if that knowledge is already known.
We need root knowledge, real knowlegde in our society basically.
Thanks for the article Micheal, very good, well written, thought about carefully, thank you.
Your right, im agreeing with your observation. Maybe we ought to just strip our world back from all its laws and legalese so that there isnt this false sense of civilization, human achievment, progress and development, which leads people into thinking having children is their next step, rather than learning something about what is going on. The false sense that the planets leadership has everything in hand already, which is entirely unfounded, yet most people believe it.
The other option is that we instruct our educators/teachers to explain explicitly to kids in one way or another that we dont have ‘it’ under control, to give out the truth as you say, that we are sort of just whipping ourselves forward on the planetary level, through the various market forces, changes in habit, trend, behaviour, because we lack the quantity of wisemen we desperately need. So that were more honest about our education system being dedicated toward the various changes in market, rather than it being dedicated to the core of real knowledge. -that since atleast after the second world war we have had all the answers and everything we need to choose a direction, but lack various specifics to do that.
Ghostbusters…won’t help.
“The number you have reached is no longer in service. Please hang up and take self-responsibility.”
It’s all going to require excessive amounts of time, time we simply do not have to waste in each cycle. You must fight for everything here. Once you learn these things over and over and over again, then you will not require this. No one, and I mean no one can tell you how this process works in detail. We are trapped in time, just for a little while.
What do you mean by cycle,?.
Birth to death, death to birth again. Fortos working with the facts that we on average live for about 60-80 years. 20 years of which is purely educational trial and error another high percentage is consumed by all the necessary tasks such as sleep, grooming body, travelling to the destination, petty confrontations and diverse confused dialogues – leaving around 20 alloted years if we are lucky to make sense out of something and develop it in such a way where it could be passed over to descendants aka evolve, but in a way which is directed and in full recognition of the facts. – You say some interesting relevant and valuable things forto, thank you for that.
making the argument to take self-responsibility fundamentally floored, chronologically. because we wouldnt have needed to develop so many man-made law barriers to existance progress and life if humans did not have fundamental control of their cognitive faculties.
The plejaren send their prisoners convicts criminals to another world. Anyone ever questioned why? -its because they appreciate that there is absolutely no man-made control that can be excercised over the alloted evolution in the life and in the existence, over the consciosness and over the things that the evolution is necessary to learn in the life. The most we can do about it as consciousness evolution beings is to say “you can do what ever you want evidently, but please, not in our society”
Then the thing is about equality isnt it, about the majority being penalised for the behaviour of the minority.
@Forto: Your post, however brief triggered some questions and thoughts, which I share openly here in the spirit of free thinking – and with respect.
Say, do you mean to say that it will take an excessive amount of time in “each cycle\lifetime” to learn all that we need to learn? Also, what do you mean by “then you will not require this”? Are you possibly referring to material incarnation?
With these questions in mind, I started to think about these things….which I offer as an expression only….I am but a student and anyone please correct any mistakes.
In my humble opinion, I have come to accept the Spiritual Teachings as the closest ever body of work (monumental in my experience) that explains in the most minute attention to detail and precision about how the “evolutive” process of the life works, including duration in earth time calculations of the material human incarnation cycle. The seven stages of human evolution, the seven great-times The CREATION goes thru (followed by the period of slumber), the construct of The Psyche (which includes the Mentality, Personality, Consciousness etc..) and how they interact from the perspective of the material, half material and purely spiritual factors. Truly an awesome little book to study (by the way, available in English).
I also find it is indeed a daunting task and responsibility how much there is to learn really, and how very little attention on a daly basis I personally devote to learning, in spite of knowing how important it is. I just get caught with work and my kids – survival, paying bills, taking care of Mum and going thru the motions at times. This seems to be changing with my older years – I am hopeful more learning is creeping in.
Perhaps I can join the devotion MH has to the work, and the Gaia Guys (which I miss terribly) as they have shown me how deep the rabbit hole can go.
As for TIME, and being trapped in it….this is a fun topic from a Physics perspective….but I conclude that the seemingly eternal evolutive process of Creation and all Creations for that matter all the way out as far as we can tell to The Absolute Absolutum is “the only game in town” as I see it….there is nothing else for Consciousness to do but to eternally follow the arrow of time (entropy) and evolve. Should ever we arrive at the ultimate culmination point of all that is and ever will be, the whole of it would be over, and that is not an option for Creation is eternal and forever evolving.
As BEAM likes to say, Glory be to Creation…..but for now, I fasten my seatbelt in anticipation to the very trying times we Human Beings of Earth are facing as we inevitably graduate over the next millennium, more into the next 800 years (when the woman takes the scepter of power away from the man), and hopefully and peacefully join the federation of planets alongside the Plejaren (how spot on was Star Treck eh?).
Cheers,
A
@Arie, you say some nice things, nothing personal to you, but this: “Glory be to Creation” this is exactly why I keep a good quality solid distance from these people, creationalists that is. And why I appreciate that the plejaren keep a good solid distance from individuals or anyone for that matter. Because you see, it all turns into a preposterous contradiction of intergalactic proportional delusion, that they talk of evolution, the god-delusion and how TJ was distorted, and then present information that does that very same thing in newly formatted clean form yet again. I personally cherish the naturally occuring equality for that very reason, and that I am free to run clear and far from the thing. Just saying.
Daniel and Arie, you are much wiser than I, truly you are. You have placed the words in ways I cannot. I am a somewhat simple man with simple ideas. I am so glad that others are here who know. I’m very lucky to live with such intelligent Humans now, I only wish we could come together in some meaningful way without being so stretched, so far apart. There are many things I do not understand currently, but some things are simply etched in stone for me. It is good that we can voice and talk, because in the end, that’s really all we have is each other.
Thank you forto for making that clearer, in that case one incredibly important thing for you to remember and to be very clear about is that around 82% of humanity is currently religious, and that we must be very careful not to say or write things that might make their condition worse. If for example were talking about creation-evolution, we must be quite specific and scientific or not bother, and MH is a very smart role model when it comes to that matter evidently.
You say forto on the next page this: “Their message is simple, evolve or perish from the material world”. -That is wrong, and potentially dangerous too, there is no possible way that one can stop evolution assuming were talking about normal things in normal time here. Even if anyone wanted to stop evolution they could not even if they tried they’re very best to stop it. And every single human in existence in the whole universe will indeed perish as you say at the end of their allotted evolutionary living time aka life.
p.s. do any bloggers here live in New York City by chance?
Or in the Twin cities area of Minnesota USA, as well:) I know there are a couple people close by here?
I like the idea of setting up information stands and or putting up posters, etc.
Since this entire ‘thing’ rarely leaves my thoughts its seems when driving I always look at a place and think…. man that would be a good place to set up a stand or put up a sign, etc.
Though guess can’t put the cart before the horse, but got to start somewhere! Eventually as a non official promoter of Billy Meier and someone whom has come to see real truth all on my own, more of us could get it into places like time square as well:)
For me included….. it WILL NOT happen with us sitting on our hands.
And obviously this is not about trying to persuade anyone to think beyond their means(beliefs) yet there are A LOT of ‘closet’ folk out there waiting for someone else to ‘come out’ before they will.
I appreciate the meaning of your words ‘closet’ folk, I get it and can think about that. But less than 1% of all the humans of the entire planet have even encountered anything related to anything intellectual or based within real wisdom and then further premium real wisdom, namely for the philosophical reason of not offering their children guidance when guidance is due.
So it is not anything to do with being in the closet, though as I said I do get the meaning of what you say. It is simply that historically there is no running trend, therefore no platform or anything like that. If you were to walk into a church and to start talking about some complicated religious concept, then yes, you will find that platform. But the platform among atheists is not yet established properly, no where near fully formed, and atheists as you know are more careful than any other type of person, because they appreciate silently the immense delusion that those around them face daily. So it really only leaves a handful of us, you, me, those that have studied this, then that, then this in that order, until we are more confident about speaking out about things more clearly.
Being raised by a ‘closet’ atheist(my dad, mom being a closet ‘free thinker’) it seems all to often that many people will do one thing for the show of the rest, and in the ‘real world'(sitting in the back yard, conversing around ones kitchen table, interacting within nature, etc, etc) do and say an entirely different. And Atheist are most definitely just another delusional belief oriented bunch in my opinion!! So to me, it most definitely goes well beyond their twisted stance also; overly complicated view on the very simple things to be found within the ‘truth’. Which seems to shine through us all no matter our beliefs, faiths, thoughts….
All of us are truly one and the same in many respects and many people are worth trying to at least show another way of thought for and within themselves, if it is something that openly or secretly catches their fancy. Non of us are beyond seeing and contemplating the truth of what we are. It is all our destiny….. some will just see it superficially and or in reality before others. As there are most certainly vocal ‘truth seekers’ whom do many things far from that also to be put into the ‘real world’. Just as many are phony’s in many respects, does not correlate to doing nothing! We are just earthlings….. neither Billy Meier nor extraterrestrial’s. All striving to bigger and better heights within it all, hopefully.
Just my thoughts and obviously not geared to anyone in general…. Getting out that which resides within:)
Even going as far as putting out a Zumanlaundry shirt with a simple ‘correct’ peace symbol on it is a great start…. or anything down that line to help their fellow brothers and sisters move ahead:)
I agree with you Philip. It is the same in my entire family, but my understanding is slightly different maybe. I take the position that athiests (or whatever we call non-religious whatever people), do not label themselves, and maybe it is true that in the universe generally people do not label themselves.
I dont know if you know already Philip but there is this special word written like this “Relegeous” or “Relegeon”, the meaning of it basically is the study of the placeholder, as you say about atheiests being confused and religious or whatever, its because every human being regardless of labelling themselves or being or doing whatever, do something.
What we need to do is to carve out a solid neutral space in public places for all people, where tolerance, respect and basic common level social agreements exist, that is what we need, but we need it on an international level not just a national one, so our next step is a world government yes, and we should be happy about that not upset about it like alex jones new world order fear shit will have us think, its meant to be a good thing, and will be, eventually 🙂
It will be and I have heard and read about relegeon.
A one world government would be beneficial in a few ways and as I have thought I have read, would make it more enticing for ‘outsiders’ to actually communicate with those in control of the entire planet. Hopefully when this day comes, this world government will be dominated by woman!!!!
Yet like so many topics of this nature…. they have a admittedly twisted, hated, and revengeful following. Those that do not like change and like to keep things the way they are. I guess one could call them the believers, instead of saying I don’t know what a one world government would mean for our world, Just outright hate it as it would be different and at least here in the states would give up control to everyone else. Seems the west, as so many seem is the opposite, is actually inhibiting the creation of a REAL one world government.
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I had a really long chat many hours with my step father once about all the little components of history and inventions and we spoke about history all the way back past the very most ancient fragments of things we have found up to the current day. And we spoke about how at the time it seems difficult evidently, but 5 years later and the invention has already be re-invented and retroengineered several times over already. And then we got talking about the nature of consciousness and the fabric of reality and how certain brave ones manage to discover a certain flexibility which they then experiment with a little bit.
You alright Philip, I like the things you write about, good reading thank you
Its great to have people to talk personally with in this manor, as you and your step dad. I have very few people in my life that I have been able to openly fathom the depths of ones thoughts with.
My dad was to busy outright stone walling everything within his belief in no belief…. atheism. As it seems with some within this ‘belief’, the belief in no truth. Almost as if it is the epiphany of denying reality based on the revengeful, hated, reverent dismissal of all that is ‘religious’. Though many have for long, and now more openly exited the double thoughts/life of what I refer to as ‘closet believers’. Living a double life within what many call ‘spirituality’, one moment a good sheep another a pedophile, to the extreme. Vise verse a very ‘creation’ geared person continuing a facade for everyone but themselves, usually just on Sundays for a few hours. Though what is truth if so much is variable within beliefs…. How does someone ever accumulating, adhering to, serving under half truths ever see the real deal. It truly seems that the thoughts of the individual truly are the strongest on their own in observance of all that is based on the things that are ‘true’. Letting it go… needing no title other than alive and thinking within the great power of our individual thoughts. Seeking for only the truth… constantly neutral positive adherence.
Though between two people whom trust each other so much can be elaborated on, that shows the effects of phantasmagoria on our ability to excel in real, reality together. Got to cherish those times one can really get intertwined within another s thoughts, feelings, actions… Connected, together.
Its hard sometimes to not get it out and like many of us here it seems we have a common bond of seeing reality in a different way. Though it is more common than many will let on even if they don’t want to hear it from a guy in Switzerland, non the less.
Oh yes I know very well about continuing on with life as normal as if everything is absolutely normal and there was never nor has ever been any problem in the history of mankind. Funny that, sort of funny but a true and real constant. It all comes from spirits, all these various ‘stuff’s and ‘things’ every day.
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i live in NYC,Arie.
Whatever your recipe is Michael, keep on cooking!
We must be careful to compare these people with our movies and ideas. They have moved on long ago and they have no intimate interest in Humans here as much as we may wish it. This may seem harsh, but it is truth. Their message is simple, evolve or parish from the material world. If this happens you will simply repeat it. Something tells me though, there must come a time that all Humans must awaken to truth, we are just in our “terrible twos” as it were, terrible being the operative word. We have no idea how truly primitive we really are yet. But all things have a beginning, and with beginnings there are ends to pursue.
You read my mind forto.I couldn`t have said it better. I`ve been saying that ever since I first heard of Billy and the P`s.:))
The message is actually very much more complicated than that, in fact the message is so complicated that its taken a solid 60 years to accumulate in written form. There is an oportunity for a genius geek to step in to interpret the message but it will take the genius geek even longer apparently, and the genius geek will only take the time to develop his/her brain if there is a strong demand for the establishment of the genius geek in the first instance, so it then becomes a matter of time and waiting for a critical enough mass of humanity to wake up of their own will and realise what is actually going on generally on the world they were born on. In and of itself this is a big ask. We’re looking at a future social system mostly and apparently.
It does not require a genius geek to understand something a child can ascertain. 90% of all the problems here are easily solvable with present day technology and know how.
Actually forto you’ve done well to authenticate what I explained. Becoming cognisant that humanity lives to little much more older than a childs age of a human on another world, that we’re in quite an unpleasant cycle of enslavement for progress and development and we’ve solved every possible problem already many times over as you point out, yet have continued doing all sorts of various different things. That does require a genius geek yes, because its evolution related and I dont just mean stages of progress, I am talking about spiritual things and the nature of freedom. You’ve proved a genius geek is absolutely necessary.
Ok , the debate and the aggregate have reached new levels here . Cheers to all for your participation . I pretty much agree in all cases here . The most difficult job or the task regarding the most responsibility is having a child and offording them a window . A window into what is and what can be . Its then a transformation into the person being able to decide on his or her own and inact decision .
If you pause for a moment , what if all the answers to any question already exists . What if the entire spectrum of possibility has already presented itself . We are a seeking people . Seeking our own selves and place . The dreams and visions of every person that has ever lived here is accessible and never leaves . So in my opinion we sturuggle with an impediment of progress . Things that offset an inate gravitational draw to . That is as simple as I can now imagine it . When we found the work of BEAM and some via the watchman or beacon of Michael we knew very soon that our lives were validated and our past changed in terms of its relevance . In some cases we acknowledged vast discrepancies . You see , we are a born recording of everything we see , hear , smell , feel and yearn towards . The pituitary gland or the seventh sense of fine particulate fluidal vibrational measurement and discerning is what gets put on high alert and grows stronger when you find the information or have the event . Its a complex atrophy from society and a rebirth towards the advancement . Much of the information in our database or brain , consisting entirely of a cholestoral based fat enigmatic storage device and operating system more advanced than any existing component is factually corrupt . So filtering and chasing and finding the truth is very , very difficult . When identifying BEAM as the true source is profound . Its very internally harmonious . However its very externally devastating . Now to take it to reality is that 800 years or ten to twelve incanations later it begins to bear fruit . None of us are comfortable with that ratio . Yet we are very fortunate to be able to converse in this forum at this time identifying such vast disparity . I often wonder with BEAM and his one percentile brain quotient of using upwards of 25 percent of his potential , what it could be like . What is the biggest barrier of our brain that we are unable to use more . Is it DNA ? is it environment ? how perfect do things need to be to unlock this super power . That in my opinion is at the core of this barrier . Unlock the potential and unchain the truth.
This is quite interesting “…we sturuggle with an impediment of progress. Things that offset an inate gravitational draw to [anything of any value to the progress of evolution]”
We cant help it, that is what your explaining, we cant help wanting a better situation for ourselves, but for some reason, probably due to the various social and law agreements we have in place already, probably overpopulation is a factor too, we have stopped doing valuable things any longer, and now just accumulate big bucks so we can impress god or the royal family with our splendid size of living accomodation and quality of living, that even god himself would envy us for our wealth in knowledge.
We have to engineer washing machines to last only 3 years, to cover the legal warranty and so that we can keep the costs down on the raw materials and ensure that the customers buy several of these devices each, over their lifetime, and it keeps the labour force moving, it keep engineers in a job, it keeps politicians in work, it keeps advertisers in work, retailers in work, and it is nice for the end user too because they get to see several different types of washing machine in any given life, so quite refreshing there too. If you can think of a better system, then everyone will listen to you.
There is really nothing this Creation needs from us at this juncture, it is simply waiting for us to catch up. Hence a quickening must occur, the Aquarian age. I wish I could pray to the Creation at times in a way that is logical and just. The Spiritual teachings cover this, but it is still somewhat vague to me. I am not one for prayer in the traditional sense, I simply despise the idea of a religious mechanism.
Creation as a living breathing asking thing, and catching up as if humans are some kind of separate entity.
You’ve created an illogical universe there forto, and given that a small batch of people will be spiritual scientists by the end of the millenium I suppose its important that you do.
forto, if you want to do the whole traditional praying thing, do things instead, to show your appreciative for being alive, do things, many things, exhaust all of life, that is the very best way of showing your appreciation, actually wasting any time physically praying is disrespectful, because its a waste of time thats why its disrespectful. But doing things, many different diverse things and never looking back or spending any time looking deeply into meaning, now that is incredibly respectful to life and to your own life. Never do as the religious people do as a rule and you’ll be doing all the right things probably.
I probably worded that poorly, look its basically a case of just getting on with it, the best way is to remain mostly consistantly in the present, not past or future in thoughts.
If we feel we want to communicate with creation then there is probably something wrong there.
The recommendation and profound interpretation of the spiritual teaching is to use other human beings in combination with yourself to achieve anything. For example if at work the manager is not too sharp and on it yet you’ve discovered that you and your co-workers are constistantly doing something wrong under the managers guidance, we dont want to make a fuss out of it because the manager has already stated clearly that its their way of doing things. Then we can for example make an example out of it by developing a consciousness of what is occuring, build a picture of what is occuring and then in a manipulative way do it wrong or make an example of how it is being done wrong, as a way of everyone then realising the issue and changing the way they do something. This is commonly called evolution by the way.
As long as you are Human, you will always experience a duality of sorts, always feel out of place in some way or another even if we do not wish to admit it. Seeking out that Creational ability and power is why we are here. We all create our own illogical Universes in some way or another, even the Creation itself must ponder and search for ever higher ground and understanding, and so it is with us. No Human anywhere has all the answers and if you come upon one that claims they do, I would recommend you steer clear of them.
I can’t say I’m certain about it, but to me there’s no harm in praying to the universe. In religious circles that I participated in in the past, there was talk about building a rapport with God, by sharing what’s in the heart. The principle to me is sound, but the only difference I can perceive (which is huge) is that the universe won’t answer back because it has no petsonality of its own. But just praying and opening up to the universe, that I enjoy a lot, because I never have to hide myself and I can openly talk about deep personal truths, which helps me to reestablish my virtues and innocence – and with no fear of judgment or punishment. To me a prayer to the universe is better than any prayer to any “loving god” that humans can imagine. It’s not shameful or illogical or false to me to become like a child under the awareness of the presence of the universal consciousness.
It is still meditation to pray under the awareness of the universal consciousness, because all forms of giving our attention to something is meditation. It might not be the kind of meditation work that leads to deep calming or uncovering hidden subconscious essence of knowledge, but it’s just simple and worthy still, in my opinion. Simple and worthy of innocence.
It is fine to talk to yourself, privately, no harm at all as you say Tyler, and every man and woman has said the odd random word out loud getting in or out of a shower. There is no god or whatever so yeah your right we can do stuff or whatever.
I just dont recommend you talk to yourself while in a business meeting, or while delivering a baby (assuming your a doctor), phone calling someone for work purposes. But I do recommend thinking things through and relaxing and all the rest of it, as a way of creating a good bond with the local reality of the local environment and time or whatever.
When in doubt look to see how Bill Murray deals with the situation, given that he has spent a lot his life on film.
Try meditating on those thoughts forto intsead of praying on those thoughts. Sometimes contemplating(thinking) about what you said might help you to come to a conclusion by analyzing the issue in a correct logical Creational way. That is what I do sometimes when nothing seems to make sence to me when I can`t understand something. I try to clear my mind of something that just doesn`t seem right to me. If worse comes to worse I just let it go maby something will make sence to me sometime later or else I `ll just drop the issue and let it pass. Struggling to make since of this world is so very daunting to me because this world has not evolved enough to learn and act correctly by the laws of Creation etc.
Thank you for that Terry, very good advice indeed.