Protests from anti-GMO crowd yet to materialize
For some strange reason, despite 65 years of specific, prophetically accurate information published by Billy Meier, in addition to independent expert authentication of his UFO photos and other evidence, the people of Earth have seemingly been unable and/or unwilling to grasp its genuineness and significance. In fact, for his troubles, Meier’s been the target of 23 documented assassination attempts.
Identity Crises
However, that a “man” will give birth to a baby, thanks (again) to medical intervention, appears to be acceptable and un-troubling (other than the public funding) to many people. Yes, in this case the “man” was originally a woman who became a “man” but still wanted to bear children. Another case of someone with too much time on their glands who decided to get their plumbing redone. (We won’t discuss whether or not the “man” is now actually a man, chromosomally speaking. BTW, this whole new “identification” thing may complicate other matters, such as supporting this white woman who “identifies” with being black and now could perhaps start “identifying” with litigation, or some such mess. Taken farther, we could start “identifying” with other people’s homes, cars, spouses, etc., and try to take possession of them on those grounds. Wait, I guess we already do, it’s called thievery, adultery, etc. Never mind.)
As one would have it, Meier had long ago written about the next, obvious, peculiar, self-centered aberration and not only described it as an abomination but also said it had been done before in our very far distant past.
Hooked
It’s been pointed out that fish don’t know that they’re in water. Likewise, many people today don’t have the faintest idea that they’re living in a cesspool, filled to the brim with a wide array of degeneracies that they regard as “normal” and even delightfully trendy. Like fish, they are easily seduced by the bright, colorful, hook-laden lures, trolling through the muck, purposely designed to look like things they want to consume but which lead them to be consumed instead.
In this age of technological advancement, we’ve certainly forgotten that corny ol’ line, “Just because we can, doesn’t meant that we should.” It really could give new meaning to a ruder bit of advice, “Go screw yourself.”
Talk about GMO!
Indeed, in light of all this blatant manipulation…where is the outrage from the anti-GMO crowd, huh? Talk about mislabeling, whoa.
And while it’s also not politically correct to say so, I personally find things like female boxing and MMA to be grotesque and degenerate abominations and an indication of just how devoid of reason and appreciation for the real, true and lovely feminine, human beings have become. Why females want to have “hardbodies” is far beyond my understanding too. I never wanted to date a woman who could bench press me, I guess I’m old-fashioned.
This isn’t to at all minimize the actual conflicts and torment that some people experience, even life-long, not being comfortable with their given gender. While still relatively small in number, there are more people today who may be having these issues and about whom we are being made aware. There are a number of factors at play, environmental, genetic, etc., most all of which can actually, logically, be seen as manifestations of overpopulation. I guess if it wasn’t enough to tread on some people’s sensibilities with the gender issue alone, revealing overpopulation as an underlying cause should do the trick.
Where’s Momma?
We know from the Meier material that – should our species somehow survive our suicidal stupidity – the true mothers of the new millennium won’t be ersatz men, such as many women have aspired to and become in the business world, politics, etc., but true and real women, standing, living and teaching, from a place of real feminine strength.
P.S. Look for the new song, Boys Just Wanna Bear Young.
*See this excerpt from Homosexuality – a Natural Occurrence in Conflict with Nature:
“When the OM on page 69, verse 139, states that the homosexual joining of two men is punishable, it means that homosexual men are guilty then, when they come together in such a way that makes them capable of giving birth in an unnatural and sacrilegious manner (for instance through genetic manipulation etc.), and then have sexual relationships for the purpose of procreating descendants by this means:
139. Thus, a man transgresses against the direction of Creation in these matters if he sacrilegiously joins another man in a procreative, sexual relationship, and thereby he shall be guilty and punished for the remainder of his life to a place for fulfilling the corrective measure. And a similar measure shall also apply when a man or a woman joins with life forms of a different kind that are called animals.”
NOTE: Please read the entire article to understand the actual non-discriminatory teaching about naturally occurring homosexuality.
Further, the actual meaning in the teaching for the inflammatory terms emasculated and castrated is “expelled and banished before the people”, which is further clarified and explained in the forthcoming, final translation of The Talmud Jmmanuel, due for publication in the next few months.
See also: http://www.theyfly.com/gaia/answers.html
Search term: Homosexual
The people who make the bright and shiny lures that trap our attention know us far better than most people know themselves. We’re hooked all right. And not in a good way.
If there is a bell weather sign of degeneracy in the media, we have to look no further than various news organizations providing a “disclaimer” to remove all responsibility in order to show the warriors and fanatics of Islam blow themselves up. I don’t know why they showed it in the news but showing a real person extinguish his life isn’t entertainment but a tragedy of suicidal nature our times.
Agreed…as well as the killing of others.
“Sodomistische Homosexualität”, that is “homosexuality like the inhabitants of Sodom”, refers to just that, the behaviour of the inhabitants of a certain Hebrew city called Sodom, wherein a sadistic, narcissistic homosexuality predominated, as is now the case in certain “Islamic” countries such as Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan, etc. The “natural homosexuality” refers to androgyny, that is a man who is feminine in mentality and so, like all women, has bisexual potentials, which makes up the majority of “homosexuals”/gays in our society. However, actual homosexuality that is male homosexuality where the male is not of an androgynous, but narcissistic masculine mentality, is just about universally bad, since it is always associated with sadism, masochism, fanaticism, out of control hatred and often suicidal vengefulness. Actually the homosexuality of Sodom is relatively rare in the West, but e.g. Pulse-shooter Omar Mateen was one of them, and it may be the norm in some parts of Afghanistan. It basically stems from a kind of paranoid psychopathy related to extreme narcissism, misogyny and sadistic hatred. If an androgynous man has a child through becoming a transsexual, there is no harm in it. The homosexual reproduction talked about by Petale is the kind where e.g. an army is reproduced rapidly by enabling male soldiers to bear male offspring without female selective influence.
Matthew,
Can you please post the German and English on that army of reproducing males? Thanks.
Your opinion is 100% confused, invalid, and illogical.
Your statement provides no constructive criticism, but only a vague statement of disapproval, and no opinion of your own.
I don’t comment on illogical comments, it would lead to far.
John,
That’s not exactly taking responsibility. And unfortunately it’s the kind of responses that are all too often made by people who can’t substantiate their claims.
As you know, some posts (yours included) have used quite a bit of space to make their points. I think this is one of those times that honesty and integrity require it…or you can feel free to retract it if you can’t substantiate it.
Michael, you’re not my boss. I’m not going to waste my time with a person who demonstrates a know it all illogical absurd view point. If you don’t like that, and you wish to not post my comments, c’est la vie.
Hey John, what’s with the attitude? You make glib, rude, unsubstantiated comments to people. I will say that I won’t post such things from anyone. It’s disrespectful and unprofessional. Personally, I’ve dealt with many YEARS of that kind of stuff from people who just took cheap shots at the Meier case and me. So I don’t and won’t support that here.
If people want to disagree, go for it. But be prepared to stand up for your opinions with at least some kind of facts, well-reasoned arguments, etc.
To be clear, it is my blog and while I want it to be a place where people can freely exchange ideas, etc., it’s not a place for cheap shots at each other.
Thanks.
I doubt that
very much
To be clear
I doubt
“I don’t comment on illogical comments, it would lead to far.”
very much
Michael, give me one instance where I was rude.
John,
You were very dismissive about Matthew’s comments, I think you used the term illogical, but when asked to explain, substantiate, you dismissed it. I think that it could be called rude, perhaps there’s a better word but that one came to mind.
Andrew, stay out of it, what do you know about me?
John,
Again, this is a public forum where everyone gets to comment, to a point. Of course we can ignore, challenge, rebut, etc. But things function differently (for better or worse) in these public formats than in private exchanges.
Using the word illogical means it doesn’t make sense, therefore incorrect and counter-productive. All of this is/should be intellectual discussion. People need to stop being emotional. Emotionalism is one of the worse evils on Earth. Look at Trump for example. He wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out. He’s an emotional idiot. There are 20 million Mexicans already here, working hard, and providing for their families, obeying the law. Just get rid of the criminals in any sector of society. Emotionalism = stupidity.
Actually, it should be pointed out that the first action of all of the illegal immigrants was to break our laws…and it should be kept tin mind.
John, you contradict yourself which itself is illogical:
“I don’t comment on illogical comments, it would lead to far.”
However, you in fact DID comment on something you considered illogical:
“Your opinion is 100% confused, invalid, and illogical.”
Think about it.
Why do I get the feeling that I have seen this pattern of speech before in the form of Tony the amateur astrologer.
John are you really John or is this Tony hiding behind a pseudonym.
“Using the word illogical means it doesn’t make sense”
Actually, illogical refers to a non-conformance with logic which is,
“reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity”
Just because something “doesn’t make sense” to YOU does not necessarily make it illogical. Your logic may be flawed and you may have no sense of it until your logic has been put to the test. I believe the Meier evidence was intentionally made to be controversial partly for this reason: For us to debate, discuss and put each others’ logic through the wringer(so to speak). It is part of the process of consciousness-evolution.
15. This type of sexual activity can only come about among male human life forms with inherent homophile selfishness who, as life forms, are misled and degenerated through factors of false teachings, uncontrolled perverse desires and unlawful lusts.
I take it that you do not read German. If you do, however, you need to get the pamphlet Homosexualität und wie kommt es dazu. https://shop.figu.org/schriften/kleinschriften/homosexualit%C3%A4t-und-wie-kommt-es-dazu
I think I linked to the full English translation in the blog too.
Planet of the degenerate.
I find it grotesque too, Michael.
The government is trying to throw down the gauntlet on anyone who doesn’t agree with their perverse ideas as well. I’m all about “to each their own” and free will to live your life in peace, but I think it’s disgusting how they treat anyone who doesn’t want to cave to their “beliefs”. Why do women want to be men? I understand that women want to be treated as equals and don’t want to be looked at as objects for men. I totally get that and wholeheartedly agree. I hate chauvinism. What I don’t get is why these women want to be men? I’m a woman who wants to be equal, but I still want to be a woman. Men and women are different in our strengths and weaknesses and for good reason. We complement each other and those differences are what keep us together. Feminism is a mental disorder that will only alienate men and women. We can still be equal, but we will never be the same. We were once a highly evolved and technologically advanced civilization and it’s sad to see how far we’ve degenerated.
You’re correct Melissa. I’m glad you’re not swallowing the bait.
My, my, Michael. Someone is fired up today. You covered so much in today’s post. Tough to respond to this one without writing a dissertation. Briefly, then:
First, nothing Billy Meier or his Plejaren friends have said with regard to the welfare of humankind is anything new. Sensible, intelligent, well-educated human beings around the Planet have known about and warned against the same threats to our existence for decades upon decades.
Second (as I’ve brought up before), how can we expect people to listen to extraterrestrials—that they can’t see or hear even if they wanted to, when they won’t listen to the acknowledged most outstanding minds born and bred on Planet Earth—whom they can hear and see any time they choose?
Third—as you and I and other thinkers have discussed ad infinitum, the bulk of humanity is not going to listen to anyone about anything that might force them to make changes in their lives—until it’s too late; that is, when reality smacks them in face and knocks them flat on their behinds to where getting up again might never again be possible.
Most of the rest of what you brought up is about people being out of control. Our (your and my) generation got that ball rolling. Our generation initiated big-time environmental concerns, expanded the limits of accepted sexual behaviors, burned our bras and draft cards, fought for human equality—regardless of sex, color, sexual orientation, ethnic background, etc. It was about Black Power, Red Power, White Power, Woman Power, Flower Power, Power of the People. We did that and so much more, and we were happy with what we achieved. But for the next generation, our victories had become the norm, so they pushed for more, and the following generation for more still. Now, it seems that almost anything is deemed acceptable, no matter how insane or deplorable or disrespectful most of us would have called it just a few years back. We’re not “old fashioned,” Michael; we’re sensible. We’re concerned. Sometimes we’re angry as hell, for good reason.
Thanks Scott,
Perhaps many people who read and comment here aren’t that familiar with “pre-history”, i.e. our generation and its sending that bowling ball on its way. I observed more of those specifics than I participated in. But, I must admit, I really enjoyed the ones I engaged in.
Scott, you make a lot of sense. Good for you.
Scott, you sound like an old cynic. If your generation got the ball rolling and that lead to what we have today, recent generations should throw some balls of their own, ignore you, and carry on discussing topics NEVER covered by your generation – to do with the psyche, the spirit, creation, consciousness, ETs, the universe, etc. What your generation knew about those things could be smoked in a jiffy.
We too may want to cover things that seem, at this time, hopeless, as yours did in your day, to change things in good directions too, despite the unseen consequences of that, which cannot be characterised as all bad, unless you’ve given up and only see that. What MH is addressing is extremes, not norms, like rights, which your generation takes for granted too now by all accounts. Maybe your heart was never in it, but, you claim its victories whilst promoting cynicism?
Thanks, John. Much appreciated.
So did I, Michael, and somehow we survived it.
Be well, All.
Well Scott and MH, as I heard from Chris Hedges the other day onthe Real News, your generation had more party affiliation than our so called two party system so I’m envious of you guys having so much vitality in politics and fighting to shape the country. Perhaps a viable third-party system will from itself this generation.
Eusebio,
I’ve sent information from the Meier case to Real News…without one word of response yet. Perhaps if you – and others – let them know that they SHOULD be examining and commenting on it would move them to do so.
Hello MH,
Yeah, I stopped listening to the establishment network news media and more towards alternative media like the Real News Network on YouTube. I will contact them about the upcoming San Francisco earthquake and mention something about the Henoch Prophesies so we’ll see. (Side note: I’m pretty new to Mr. Meier’s spiritual teachings and the Prophecies and Predictions so if you guys want to chime in, please join me)
For anyone interested here’s their website: http://therealnews.com/t2/#
Hi Eusebio,
They haven’t responded (yet?) to the real news that I’ve sent them with Meier’s information. If others want to inform them, so perhaps they see that it isn’t just me, maybe they’d help to break the real truth embargo.
It’s one thing for us to talk amongst ourselves and hash things out here but if we don’t get above the news suppression line our chances of softening any of the blows are not good.
Here’s the letter I sent:
Hello, my name is Eusebio and I have been watching the Real news for half a year now. I find that out of a vast number of alternative news media on Youtube, the information you put out is insightful and intellectual. The other day I commented about your news program to Michael Horn and he asks us to join him in writing to you about signs and warnings about upcoming disasters (Prophecies and Predictions) where the population at large is not informed.
There are three items that concern me in regards to the future of the country and of the planet:
1) Overpopulation
2) The upcoming major earthquake in San Francisco
3) The Henchmen Prophecies
Overpopulation will soon be a major problem, in lieu of Global warming. The longer I see how the election is shaping (and how it is being won) and the escalating confrontation with China and Russia, I’m getting the feeling that the powersame that be would rather address the overpopulation issue through famine, disease, war and death rather than through having a working dialogue with the public and finding real solutions to humanitarian problems.
In regards to the upcoming ST earthquake, it has been posed that as a result of franking more earthquakeso can be expected other than that we know, through the law of cause and effect, dire weather effects are coming and will get worse as a result of global warming, it would be illogical and/or irresponsible not to expect a major earthquake hitting SF in the near future, again a working dialogue with the public needs to be addressed for the people to be ready – just in case for those folks that would rather ride out the quake.
Lastly the Henoch Prophecies is a centurion problem, centuries lasting problem, that states, “164. The point in time at which these prophecis will be fulfilled will be when a Pope will no longer reside in Rome.” With the immigration issues, the increasing terrorist acts and the increasing debts incurred on Italy by the EU, it’s hard to not notice what’s happening.
That being said, I hope you give some credence to Michael Horn’s information about Billy Meier’so case. Thanks for listening.
…End letter
Hi Eusebio,
I see that there are a number of typos and/or unclear information (things like The Henchmen Prophecies, centurion; spelling errors, etc.) in your letter. While I appreciate that people take action I do have some suggestions. If you’re going to point out that specific things have been corroborated, for which there are ample examples, then giving them the specifics would be preferable to mixing all sorts of stuff together – without even one link to demonstrate/support the information.
For instance, there’s nothing connecting the San Francisco earthquake comment to any linked information. Also, since we’re trying to bring this to the attention of a news organization, focusing on all of the corroborated information pertaining to terrorism, Islamists, etc., would be more helpful.
For instance, from 1958 (http://www.theyfly.com/1958-warning-all-governments-europe-prophecies-and-predictions):
53.) An unimagined impending asylum seeker problem will break over the industrialized countries before the turn of the millennium and evoke asylum seeker tourism through which a great many asocial elements emigrate who release a crime wave, whereby the worldly possessions of many people will no longer be safe, nor will life and limb.
83.) And it will be that fanatical Islamists carry out bloody revenge on the distant descendants of the Christians, for the earlier crusades when they accomplish their deadly and destructive acts through irrepressible terror all over the world.
…and all this in 1987 (http://www.theyfly.com/henoch-prophecies)
175. And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up against the countries of Europe and all will shake and quiver.
176. Everything in the West will be destroyed; England will be conquered and thrown down to the lowest level of misery.
177. And the fanatics and warriors of Islam will retain their power for a long time.
178. However, not only Europe will be affected but ultimately all the countries and peoples of the Earth, as the great horror expands to a war that will encompass the entire world.
237. In addition, significant tensions will arise between the native citizens and immigrants from foreign countries, who as a rule also observe religious beliefs different from those of the native populace.
238. And in the end, this will lead to severe conflicts.
258. However, the main objective of the aggressors will be to bring all of Europe under their military control, and for that purpose France will be selected to be the headquarters. France will not only be invaded by the aggressors from the outside, but will also be conquered from within as a result of collaborative forces and other forces.
259. This can be envisioned as being the many foreigners of a different religion living in France at that time, and specifically Islam, which will be this force working from within.
Of course if you want to just express your concerns about the state of the world, etc., that’s another thing. But it probably won’t help them in terms of being interested in investigating the Meier material.
P.S. To all concerned,
I managed to reach their office on the phone (I don’t recommend it unless you can REALLY convey quite succinctly what you’re calling about).
After a brief conversation I emailed the following information to them, with only ONE link so as to not overwhelm them:
Dear Rosette,
Thank you for your time this morning. I would like to convey my information so that it conforms to your in-depth, investigative protocols*.
The following information was verifiably published between 1958 and 1987, in German, and then in English by 2002…long before these events occurred:
• Radical Islamist terrorism that will spread worldwide (1958)
• The asylum seeker problem and associated crime wave (1958)
• Islamist attacks on Paris and all of France (1981, 1987)
• Radical Islamist attacks spreading throughout Europe (1987)
• Terrorism coming to the US (1987)**
Recent information as of January 30, 2016:
• 17,461 IS “sleepers” already spread throughout Europe
Documentation regarding the Islamist attacks on France and Europe are also on the 2004 DVD The Meier Contacts. And university Prof. Scott Antes, who facilitated my two historic presentations at NAU, acknowledged in writing his foreknowledge of last November’s Paris attacks…because I had sent him this information.
*There is an abundance of documentation, so please let me know your requirements for proceeding with the authentication of this information.
**There is also more specific information pertaining to our national security.
Sincerely,
Michael Horn
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
http://www.theyfly.com
…………………………………..
Obviously this kind of information is WAY outside of their scope of knowledge. But I am hoping that they actually possess REAL journalistic interest, curiosity and integrity. If I don’t have a response by early next week, I’ll send another email.
Sorry for the confusion MH, I’m using two devices a computer to send emails etc. And a tablet to surf, watch and visit blogs. For some reason at times when I type on the blog box, I constantly have to fight with it because it’s too eager to finish words for me even though it doesn’t make any sense – hence the typos like ST (should be SF), earthquakeso (=earthquakes), powerame ( = powers), centurion (=centurian) <<Hm, I should have used 'spanning' instead of 'lasting' The email I wrote to TRNN is free of errors because I used my home computer for that.
I didn't provide my links here since I felt like it would just clutter the jist of what I sent. Plus retyping those links with this infernal possessed tablet of mine is just insane. Anyways, for completeness here's what I sent to TRNN in regards to links:
1) …news program to Michael Horn, https://theyflyblog.com/
2) …Overpopulation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlcJoZyG2N4 and http://ca.figu.org/overpopulation.html)
3) …major earthquake in San Francisco (https://theyflyblog.com/tag/san-francisco-earthquake/)
4) …Henoch Prophecies (http://www.theyfly.com/henoch-prophecies)
I could have added more but sometimes when I see a dialog box, I try to minimize my words to some 150 words lest I mess up the "scripting" and my computer goes into a scripting error and I'll have to reload the browser with my message erased. (Sidenote: Overpopulation link is from the FIGU related page on said topic and others are from the blog, just in case the link in this comment don't work)
Thanks Eusebio, most reassuring!
Wow MH, I had some basic notion of what you go through in putting out the message in talk radio and such and today I experienced it first hand and it was both stressful and a relief. Stressful in that I was doing something important and feeling the weight of responsibility and relief that I finished what I put my thoughts into action.
Salome
Who’s going to be the first to build a beamship, again?
Ha ha! I’d love to help. Count me in. I don’t know that we would be welcome anywhere, though. I dream about flying through the cosmos and can’t wait for it to be reality someday. If only they didn’t keep the good technology secret from us peasants, then maybe we could solve a lot of our pollution, medical and science problems faster. Of course, someone would use it for dominance and destruction. We can’t anything nice on this planet! Someone always has to be the psychopath.
Sorry this is unrelated but I have to post it aha. https://www.rt.com/viral/354211-australians-urged-jedi-religion/
Not sure if good or bad.
Let’s revisit the concept of reality-estranged-naivety, which is the main reason “this species is too stupid to survive.”
57. As a rule, the whole matter of the reality-estranged-naivety also leads to unjustified suspicions in regard to an incapability of those fellow human beings who are viewed and considered to be stupid, and, in regard to intellect, rationality and the ability to make decisions as well as the ability to act, are viewed and considered to be without intellect and without rationality, and consequently, in line with the delusion of the reality-estranged-naive human being, ‘must’ be dictatorially taught, ‘correctly led’ and ‘guided’ through his/her ‘intellect and rationality’.
58. That is the actual might-behaviour of the reality-estranged-naive human being, who is additionally also stubborn and quarrelsome and brings this to the fore in such form that the fellow human beings, who are directed and suggestively-dictatorially led by him/her, do not perceive that they are steered selfishly and imperiously through the machinations of the reality-estranged-naive one.
59. Human beings with a reality-estranged naive personality disorder are controlled by a false and inflated self-worth delusion and by a greatly exaggerated self-centredness delusion, as well as by an insatiable egoism and by an insistence on being right, whereby, under certain circumstances, the reality-estranged naive state can also be associated with a paranoid schizophrenia and an actual paranoia.
60. Basically in every case a reality-estranged naivety concerns a psychical disorder, in which, significantly, also psychopathic influences are present; consequently therefore a reality-estranged naive human being is without doubt, in a certain way, also a psychopath.
Essentially, we are for the most part surrounded by mentally ill people who are constantly doing insane things like war and overpopulating the Earth.
Thanks, John, I added the contact info to the blog.
Welcome.
By the way the creation of seraphim or cherubim (human-animal hybrids) is okay as long as these are reproductively inviable.
Please cite the Meier info on that, thanks.
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/2005/nr-51/leserfragen
“Genmanipulationen auf verschiedene Gattungen bezogen, die nicht fortpflanzungsfähig sind, gelten nicht als Gen-Sodomie-Lebensformen, und zwar auch dann nicht, wenn sie z.B. Gliedmassen oder Körperpartien menschlicher, tierischer oder pflanzlicher Art haben. Die Bedingung für Gen-Sodomie besteht darin, dass neue durch Genmanipulation geschaffene Lebensformen sexuell fortpflanzungsfähig sind. Jegliche andere Genmanipulation und Gentechnik fällt nicht in den Rahmen des Verbotenen irgendwelcher Schöpfungsgesetze, denn die Gentechnik an und für sich gehört zum menschlichen Fortschritt und zu dessen Evolution.”
And contrary to what John-John seems to be implying above, “homosexuality” in the commonly modernly understood sense has nothing to do with “Homosexualität” in the sense described there by Petale – nothing whatsoever. In fact, it is often the sadistic-sodom-like homosexuals (such as many so-called “Muslims” of Afghanistan) who persecute feminine beings of all kinds, including gay men and women alike.
One can observe for oneself what was really meant originally by the term “sodomy” before it was corrupted into a pseudomoral hypocrisy by closeted Christian fanatics and the like. Take a look at Afghanistan, where some of the direct genetic and cultural descendants of the Hebrews live today.
Such people are bestial, sadistic, masochistic, misogynistic and “macho” in a very negative way, as is also the case with certain military-folk who want to mass produce soldiers by unselective reproduction.
Fundamentally the term has to do with non-evolutive reproduction, that is out of control and negative breeding that does not involve the natural sexual selection of the female influence or of human-human love/Liebe.
Since you mentioned my name, disrespectfully I must add, I will tell you that you are grossly incorrect. Homosexuality is homosexuality in whatever version. It is a sexually perverse act. Period. You are misunderstanding what you read in the material. If you disagree, keep it to yourself, I don’t like the way that you speak to me. I don’t like you period. If you insist on writing me, I will ignore you going forward.
Johnny Boy, Billy has clarified that homosexuality in the usual sense is not in any way “perverse” since the early 1980s when misunderstandings such as yours arose, much to his dismay, due to the inaccurate translation of the Talmud Jmmanuel made by the Greek Orthodox Christist priest Isa Rashid. The correct translation has been available in German since 2013, and his pamphlets clarifying the human rights and privacy-rights of gays, lesbians, transgenders, etc, have been available from FIGU for decades. I recommend that you not only read them but also remove the plank from thine own eye.
I’m not sure that specifically answers the question.
Billy said in his own words, as I quote there, that combining human and animal or plant genetics is not destructive or prohibited so long as the resulting organisms are incapable of propagating themselves and creating new self-propagating species. Such combinations have many potential scientific and medical uses. As a rule, the conventional understanding of words is what is naive and will not bring even the remotest understanding of what the Plejaren have to say.
Thanks, most people here don’t read German.
Translation:
“Genetic manipulations of different species which are not reproductively viable are not to be classed as genetic-sodomy-life-forms, and not even if they have got e.g. limbs or body-parts of a human, animal or vegetable likeness. The condition for genetic-sodomy consists in the new life-forms created through genetic manipulation being sexually capable of reproduction. Any other kind of genetic manipulation or gene-technology does not count as prohibited by any laws of Creation, since the genetic science and gene-technology in and of itself belongs to human progress and evolution.” – Billy
Matthew,
Wait, so what your saying is that angels are/were real? Would surrly like to see some CR on that. Good thing we don’t have that technology otherwise we would see cherubims with AK47s about now 🙂
“Angels”, no, but cherubim and seraphim, yes, which were later incorporated into the mythology of angels, among many other factors that were just lumped together into these imaginary figures, e.g. pure spirit-forms such as Arahat Athersata as described in the Book of Enoch (readable in OM), extraterrestrial and technologically advanced humans operating as “dispatched guardians” (Greek: angeloi) of JHWHs (human leaders), etc.
As posted above.
13. Therefore, the sexual joining between two males is an aberration against nature because insemination and insemination come together in a wrong act of procreation.
14. This is a form of aberration generated by male life forms with degenerate sensory perceptions and self-generated, unnatural perverse forms of desire.
15. This type of sexual activity can only come about among male, human life forms with inherent homophile selfishness who, as life forms, are misled and degenerated through factors of false teachings, uncontrolled perverse desires and unlawful lusts.
John,
I don’t want to second guess but I think Matthew may refer you to the full explanation, which of course doesn’t condemn all male-to-relationships, etc.
Men performing sexual acts with each other is homosexuality, which “can only come about among male, human life forms with inherent homophile selfishness who, as life forms, are misled and degenerated through factors of false teachings, uncontrolled perverse desires and unlawful lusts.” I don’t care what ANYONE says against that fact. I will ignore any further discussion related to that subject.
What you are saying is completely false and has nothing to do with the original German statement converted from the symbol-language of Petale nor does it reflect the views of Billy Meier or the Plejaren.
I don’t care what you believe, as idiotic as it may be, but I want readers here to be clear that your views are not those of the Plejaren or Billy.
Your translation is full of errors and totally mutilates the meaning of the German original.
You are either uninformed or a troll.
Please find the English pdf of Goblet of the Truth online and search it.
If it does not right you, I can’t help you.
Your translation is a mess, and extremely misleading, but I will add one line that you failed to include, which, using simple logic, reality-knowledge and experience will clear everything up:
“16. In der Regel also ist dieses ausgeartete Tun nur zugeordnet der menschlichen männlichen Lebensform, bereits herangebildet zur manischen Form.
17. Keinerlei andere Lebensform verirrt sich in diese ausgeartete Geschlectsbeziehungsform, ausser dem männlichen Menschen.”
“16. Therefore, this Ausartung-corresponding behaviour is normally only a thing of the human male life-form, having already developed up to a manic form.
17. No other life-form misdevelops into this Ausartung-corresponding sex-relationship-form, except for the male human being.”
Line 17 makes clear that this does not refer to male-male relationships in general, as that is a common occurrence among all sorts of fauna.
Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see that this refers to actual procreation and not to erotic or love-related relationships, that is particularly to a situation where the genetic composition of the offspring is determined by two (masculine, not androgynous or feminine) men getting together and, e.g., arranging the marriage of the one’s daughter. Homosexuality in the real sense of the word cannot happen between androgynes, as they are categorically female, and it is no more a violation of nature for one of them to be modified to bear offspring than it would be if one of them impregnated a woman while he was in the closet. Homosexuality in the sense of an Ausartung, as I have stated, refers to the behaviour of misogynistic sadists, as are common in certain “Islamic” countries of Hebrew descent.
Crikey……. Strewth!
That sort of thinking is just, well, crazy
Equalized fairness would reap much more
Oh, but for religion-ism-isational-istic-full-ness
RIDE the WAVE
not
riding the waves…….
I think I can see what Matt is saying. That two males having sex cannot produce offspring. So there fore in the terms of the old knowlage, it is not homosexual. But that to combine two life forms that have no sexual relationship, to produce offspring on its own is. I think that’s right. Is it? Salome Robert
The female is responsible for selection of the male with which to produce offspring, so the coming together of two masculine men to produce offspring is against the selective process that leads to evolution.
The mentality associated with that kind of genuine homosexuality, that is male homosexuality where the two or more who come together to decide/select the characteristics of the offspring are of a masculine mentality without the feminine component (i.e. androgynes/gays are incapable of this) is also by nature misogynistic, sadistic, narcissistic and often involves high levels of hatred up to suicidal rage, as well as fanatical-maniacal devotion to some belligerent activity or belief-system. It is the mentality of many Islamist suicide-murderers. Note that Salah Abdeslam and Omar Mateen were both homosexuals (Abdeslam is still alive), and sexual enslavement of young men is a common practice in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
59. Human beings with a reality-estranged naive personality disorder are controlled by a false and inflated self-worth delusion and by a greatly exaggerated self-centredness delusion, as well as by an insatiable egoism and by an insistence on being right, whereby, under certain circumstances, the reality-estranged naive state can also be associated with a paranoid schizophrenia and an actual paranoia.