Whoever wins the election, there are still huge problems neither may be qualified to deal with
France is largely still steeped in suicidal denial, Germany has decided to institute nice, political correctness and Canada rolled over to join CETA (despite the warnings from the Plejaren), while we are largely focused on the upcoming election.
The Plejaren and Meier are known for only answering the question asked and not adding additional information. So, until the election results are in, we can ponder if they were strictly adhering to that principle when Ptaah answered Meier’s question, in 2008.
Billy: However, do you have still something else about unusual predictions? And what interests me, relates to the presidential primary in the USA; who will ultimately win the race, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, who in my opinion extremely craves for power? Do you have something yet to say regarding this?
Ptaah: 61. Yes.
62.Barack Obama will win the Democrat primary.
63.And what you say regarding Hillary Clinton corresponds to the truth.
64.She is an extremely power-craving woman, who up to the end does not give up, but nevertheless will suffer a defeat.
65.If she would actually come to power, then the USA and many countries of Earth would be heading for a really unpleasant future.
66.However, humanity can consider itself fortunate, that power is not laid in the hands of this woman.
Perhaps recent circumstances may have some influence on the outcome of what some people thought was an otherwise certain victory for her. Of course there are interesting analyses that greatly contradict the polls promoted in the mainstream media, which only adds to the guessing game.
We’ve already pointed out the assessment by Meier and the Plejaren of what happened to President Obama.
Once the Dust Has Settled
Whoever wins the election, there are still huge, looming problems neither may be qualified to deal with. I’m posting texts below* pertaining especially to radical Islamist terrorism that are also relevant to some outside information (that I do not profit from and am not affiliated with). This information has some politically and religiously partisan elements to it that you may or may not agree with, etc. Here is a link to the video and here is a link to the text version of the information. It echoes some of my own concerns about the tactics described, which already may have been used in other countries and here in the US.
Some of the warnings in the Meier material make it particularly relevant at this time:
286. Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other.
287. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role.
In light of this material we may want to pay particular attention to number 287. above, noting that it doesn’t state clearly exactly which sects these fanatics will be aligned with. While it may be presumed that far right Christian religious groups are being referred to here, the information in the linked material also allows for another disturbing possibility.
How Did We End Up Here?
An understanding of how the world came to this seemingly unimaginable point is gained by contemplating and understanding the law of cause and effect…and especially an awareness of the causal role that decades of US policies have played.
While the information in the article I wrote 11 years ago will provide a sobering reminder of how we missed our chances and opportunities, year after year, I also want to caution that the information that I’ve linked to can’t provide some magic protection against the increasing threat of terrorism…as this excerpt from Meier’s original article also makes clear:
“Many people believe falsely that the international terrorism can be fought by counter-terror in the form of military and secret service actions as well as by effective war; however, this is an erroneous belief, which will still cost a lot of human lives. The truth is that the international terrorism, which is based on uncontrollable hatred against the USA, can only be controlled and can only succumb if the world finally turns away from the USA and that the USA withdraws all her military, secret service and economic forces into her own country. It is wrong to accept or to live in false hope that the violent terrorist criminals could be pushed into the defensive, as long as the USA still spreads worldwide terror through its military, its Secret Services, its politics and economy, so long will the international and other USA-hostile terrorists swing their sharpened blood dripping swords and spread with it downfall and death. Against the international terrorism, there are no effective deadly weapons and no military and secret service strategies by which it could be fought.”
With the cold reality that such elements as have already infiltrated Europe have also secreted themselves into this country, anyone who calls for “open borders” is either dangerously delusional, or deliberately treasonous, and either way clearly unfit for holding public office, especially the presidency.
Coming soon:
Billy Meier Foretold the Italian Earthquakes
See also:
ISIS Confirms “Sleepers” in Europe as Billy Meier Warned
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*1958:
83.) And it will be that fanatical Islamists carry out bloody revenge on the distant descendants of the Christians, for their earlier crusades when they accomplish their deadly and destructive acts through irrepressible terror all over the world.
1987:
175. And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up against the countries of Europe and all will shake and quiver.
176. Everything in the West will be destroyed; England will be conquered and thrown down to the lowest level of misery.
177. And the fanatics and warriors of Islam will retain their power for a long time.
178. However, not only Europe will be affected but ultimately all the countries and peoples of the Earth, as the great horror expands to a war that will encompass the entire world.
217. Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction.
218. The cause for this will be manifold.
219. With its global conflicts which are continuously instigated by it and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against itself, worldwide, in many countries.
220. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth.
221. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning.
286.Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other.
287. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role.
1995:
“Additionally, lengthy deliberations will increasingly take place regarding Islamic fundamentalism, which will mesmerize the entire globe. Uprisings, revolutions, wars and other diverse forms of unrest will escalate tremendously, with Islamic fundamentalism playing a very sad part in the scenario.”
“Major crime and minor criminal activities will abound throughout the world, as will political and military turmoil. Islamic fundamentalism will become more extreme, and diseases and epidemics will increase among the terrestrial population.”
If nasa would finally allow definitive proof life exsists on marrs then alot of this could be avoided. A nasa scientist named brandenburg wrote some books about structures on marrs. But letting info like this trickle out will not be enough help to prevent these catastrophes. This situation requires the president to directly inform the american public and the planet that life on marrs does indeeed exsist. if this is not done directly in this way ,then what billy says wil happen will probably happen given past historical accuracy with his predictions. Unfortunatley. And every american can thank the globqal elites running the secret services and u.s goobermint for this. The betchels, the rockefellers, the bush family, the rothchilds, george soros, the saudi royal family, and all their obedient goons in the secret services like the cia, nsa, and fbi, I wonder if any of these govt goons want this to happen to america as well as the global elites. Or maybe the goons are frightened of the corporate masters. and satanic overlords??
I wonder what happened to Richard C. Hoagland who also found ancient artifacts on Mars, the moon, Iapicus around Saturn near next to Titan etc? This is also another idea that might stave off the two civil wars,tewrrorisms and WW4?
Meier said that the FBI are responsible for nearly all recent terrorist acts in the US so that masked “truther” is just another antagonist trying to add to the paranoia and tension in the US.
Not to mention that someone who’s actively contributed to generating worldwide hate against the US by assisting in illegal wars (as have many stupid UK soldiers too) is probably more likely to be the reason for the upcoming civil wars, as his presentation was a classic ruse to divide and conquer, e.g., the part where he says 1500 muslims prayed outside the Whitehouse was a lie – the actual number was 100 – photoshopped to look like thousands. The image of Muslims in London was Birmingham UK which has had a large Muslim community since the 50’s and were taking part in the annual Eid ceremony.
Basically that part was bollox, but, recent immigration is a massive problem in Europe now and no current politicians want to tackle it because Washington wants to create tension in Europe for war with Russia and the Middle East (not Muslims).
A mixture of truth and lies has been, and is now still, the norm.
Hi Matt I thought Billy said it was the CIA?
Hi Sheila,
The CIA probably identify sociopathic informants overseas who’ll do anything to follow their American dream and, once they have their green cards, the FBI probably turn this dream into a nightmare on cue for the TV cameras to convert fear into miltary-industrial blood money, as Billy describes the FBI as, “…the greatest trainer of terrorists in the USA.” here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_625
The FBI opening an investigation into Clinton’s emails tells me that the intelligence community is divided over future plans, so, let’s hope the ones with good conscience win out or the US is practically finished, as is Europe and as the shaking in Italy seems to indicate.
Hi Matt for the FBI to re-open the case, they must have found the mother load of emails which will ultimately indict Hillary. If he had not re-opened it now before the election, after the election would have been negligence on his part. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
That alarmist report by Dale is rubbish absolute rubbish!
For a start which country has killed more innocent Muslims over in the Middle East than any other?
US
With war of sanctions, drone attacks, assassinations, renditions, toppling of governments, extrajudicial killings, and outright murder of statesman not to mention torture and illegal detention ya think that maybe the Muslims are owed a few western lives or two after losing millions of their own.
Who in their right mind would think that the father of a child you just blew up is not seething in rage thinking about vengence and retribution.
Who exactly is the pissed off victim here and this Dale is worried about the Muslim terror attacks!????
This do gooder Dale should get his priorities straighten out by getting his and his buddies arses off the ground and specially force his will against the scums who’ve put the good innocent citizens of his country into harms way.
Last time I checked it wasn’t any Muslim in the halls of congress nor the white house who ordered the killings.
Besides what goes around should come around because cause and effect is the whole of the law.
All of that may well be. The part that concerns me is what is likely to come, in this country and others, from radical Islamists that have embedded themselves in theses societies. It always seems to be a case of the sins of the fathers visited upon their proverbial children. And the very specific warnings in the HP speak of unimaginable destruction, seemingly connected to terrorism, coming to the US, with the WTC being only the beginning.
Well Michael the hubris from deliberate policies by the Dark Order is something that history will judge them harshly for.
There is no doubt in my mind that the immigration crisis is planned and coordinated by them to unleash the fourth world war to rid this earth of vast majority of people using Islamists to bring about their controlled chaos.
As Billy said there is nothing the people can do about it.
Hi Matt there’s always something we can do, even if we can’t think of it today, we might have it by tomorrow.
Lets hope so Sheila but frankly in regards to averting the calamitous catastrophes spoken about by billy and in the HP I believe that there is nothing we can do right now to prevent it from happening because it is going to be what is made out to be by the dumb downed majority who are unwilling to change for the better and this includes the power hungry instigators as well as the sheepish masses who aren’t forcing them to hold to account which will lead to unbelievable disaster.
It is what it is and it will be what it is made to be by ignorance as well as apathy by the masses.
Lets see if Meier is right by 2020 because I believe him.
What about some audio programs that calmly discuss the issues of the day, produced and put up in the Internet by us english speakers?
Tonight I recognised after reading and contemplating the Goblet section about good and evil, that mostly our people have only negative examples of how to communicate ideas to each other, with very few if not zero positive examples that they could learn from. Debate and anger are everywhere, and neither Donald or Hillary are setting a better example – in fact theirs sets the bar even lower.
Remember how awesome it was to hear Vivienne Legg discuss her point-of-view, Michael? I agree with you from then; it sounded really awesome.
Could we produce something like that ourselves?
I suggest taking the initiative and seeing what it takes for you and other like-minded people to create these kinds of things.
Sorry, you both. I chimed in at the wrong time, and in the wrong place.
Though Matt, some things did change for the better. It’s not all negative as Henoch’s prophecy warned. Somehow, someway, we averted at least a few significant terrors.
Well, not myself – I was still a teenager and not involved at the time. But my conscious awareness can’t even go deep enough yet to grasp how big of a relief I felt, and how much gratitude is really deserving, to those people who helped to avert some danger.
I believe him too Matt because for years we’ve all been seeing his predictions come true. But because I love my American friends and neighbours I will try and do all I can to stop it from happening. Because as we all know the reason for the naming of these negative events is so we can change them. I am not going out of this world wishing that I could have done more. And neither should any of us. Whatever we do in this life will help us evolve in our next and subsequent lives. I want to come back more evolved, not less. And ultimately we will all come back into the world that we have created.
Hey Tyler
Man don’t get me wrong
There are positives no doubt
There are many good people out there doing good things and it puts me to shame at times knowing that their expressions of what is Creational even if they don’t know the teachings far surpasses mine who is supposedly in the know.
Well I should try harder then.
But at least we are all here so Meier’s efforts haven’t all been in vain
Good on ya Sheila
Lets not lose hope
Every cloud has a silver lining
We can only try
Yes like in Rome Italy where the earthquakes will destroy everything and so it makes the job easy for the Islamists, the wall that surrounds the Vatican city will tumble in the rumble and an enemy will rumble with the unhumble.
P.S. Richard C. Hoagland says there are artifacts all over this solar system to which might just get us OFF this hairy nightmare predictions frm the Ps and Bily. I don`t know if this will help but these ideas and thoughts from Hoagland MABY JUST MIGHT put an end to these “Elm Street Halloween Nightmares that Billy and the Ps are predicting?These ideas and thoughts are my ideas and thoughts but I could be wrong,I`m just guessing but I can`t be sure if these ideas will help? We NEED more ideas and thioghts to stop thisd madness from ever hapening? I just WISH the Ps would come out of the closet so the people of Earth would just stop believing these religious fanatics politics,etc,etc,etc! We NEED to see and hear the REAL ETs to stop all these warmongering monekise from making our lives so miserable in the first place. If the Ps would just show up on TV,internet,whatever for REAL mabye this savage world might get the message the there is NO god,riligions,poltics,corpe on,politics,corperatisms etc. Then maby the Ps might just get this barbaric world on the right track for once. This is just my idea but I could be wrong. “Lets get our heads together to try to stop this trainwreck before it rolls all over us NOW!
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I would like to know more about what is going to happen to Canada. We have a new Prime Minister that is an idiot. And I believe he will ruine Canada. Will we survive 4 years with this person running our Country. We all know he made the deal with CETA and we are not happy about it.
Well, just as we down here – and everyone else in the world – should consider their own self-responsibility as determining their own contribution to the direction of their personal and collective lives, so must you as Canadians.
It would be a good idea for people of like mind to start to…communicate with each other, meet in small groups, etc. If left alone, you already know that you’re going to be FURTHER sold out and ruined by your celebrity-seeking PM.
Also, please use your first and last name when commenting here.
Thanks.
Where are you around Pierrette? Anywhere near Toronto?
After receiving 2 emails confirming my information was forwarded to both Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau before CETA was signed, I just responded by saying that I’m holding onto these email for posterity and to prove that both of these nincompoops knew Canadians would ultimately be bio-chipped and they did nothing to stop it. The Honorable Paul Hellyer has engaged a Toronto lawyer to fight the ratification of CETA so am thinking of going in that direction.
Thanks for the inspiring words from the other night Sheila – an idea did come to me. My duty’s underway now, so I’m satisfied for the next while and hopefully won’t be living in any more severe dread.
Now, about this whole thing you’re mentioning – do you mean that there is a lawyer here in Toronto going to work to stop this CETA thing from going through? and that there is an *actual* honourable person here in our Canadian high offices? I’ve never heard of Paul Hellyer before.
Haha apparently you aren’t hanging out at UFO cosmic events, which may not be a bad thing. Nice guy but the UFO slicksters like Nick Pope got a hold of him and gave him a lot of disinformation. Obviously he’s been reading Billy’s info lately:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer
http://m.mississauga.com/news-story/6927704-toronto-lawyer-challenges-eu-trade-deal
I sent him lots of Meier info but I think his brain shut down in the face of REAL evidence and not the absolutely delusional garbage from the exopolitics ships.
No doubt Michael, he has been well informed about Billy Meier. I did manage to sneak in a rubbing of his arm when I met Hellyer in the hallway, half hoping some sense might rub off on him. Time will tell. At least he’s on the anti-CETA side.
Sheila I think he wrote a book on it instead. http://conspiracyking.com/catalog/general-conspiracies/goodbye-canada-detail
Paul Hellyer is probably in on it for the money grab, the lawyer is probably a decoy and will allow the EU to get away with signing that trade deal while the lawyer pretends to make a show of it.
I remember reading Arthur C. Clark`s novels years ago back when I was alot younger about finding those huge rectangular black monolths on the moon and around Juppiter. If Richard C. Hoagland is right maybe we might also find these big huge monoliths all over the solar system around all the meridians in all these planets and other ET ancient artifacts would these ideas stop9 all this madness,I don`t know? we better find something else to get us all on the otherside before all these horrible wars start less these two presidential candidate start the war machine soon.
67) A human being without virtue, decency, honour in dignity, respect, truth, uprightness and knowledge is neither able to honestly and correctly fulfil an office nor bear hardship, harshness or honest-joyful relationships.
67) Ein Mensch ohne Tugend, Anstand, Ehrfurcht, Respekt, Wahrheit, Redlichkeit und Wissen vermag weder ehrlich und korrekt ein Amt auszufüllen, noch Not und Härte oder ehrlich-freudvolle Verhältnisse zu ertragen.
pages 61, 62 The Way to Live
I think Hoiagland said you might find these monoliths and artifacts around the center equator of all the planets in our solar system called 1945 right smack in the center meridians such as in Mexico for example,would that help stop this crazy stupid madness we are about to face such as the downfall of the USA etc,I don`t know,this is just a guess,an idea to think about before the presidential election on Nov 8th,I don`t know? It`s a thiught.
Terry,
I don’t think that Hoagland is someone who’s actually going to have much effect on all this. Let’s get back to observing and controlling our own thoughts. Yes, we have these things pointed out to us but not so that we sit aroid wringing our hands and shaking in our shoes.
If we’re going to take the spiritual teaching to heart, we should let all of these unpleasant things motivate us to improve our moment-by-moment thinking and expressing of our thoughts.
We have the choice to either worry and cry about things, hope for “saviors from the stars” or…relax into the realization that we are ALL in this together and it’s through our realizations of this interconnectedness that we can also gain the calm, peaceful, loving, harmonious, inner and outer freedom to make each breath, each thought and expression, each feeling and action…count for something positive and loving.
If possible and you can stomached it, sit and watch an hour of television. It is all about sex,youth and escapism. There is always a hero too save the day, I.e. Superman,Batman,Spider-Man,the Hulk. The list continues ad nauseum. I ask my self is this really worth saving. It still boils down to each of us to be neutral and work on our own thoughts and actions. It is the only way,and it is hard.,because is the truth.
I’d like to offer some perspective. Most Americans (and many non-Americans) don’t know the answer to this question: how many countries is the US currently bombing? Learn the answer on the following video:
http://bit.ly/2dUNJwF
Peace.
Thanks Michael well we will find out soon who our next president is… Now its just the playing the waiting game hopefully people understand that things have to change in order to try to change our much threatened future if only people would understand we could soften the blow… We will all see what it comes Down to…. Have a good day peace…
I don’t think the Pleijaren will come to our rescue. They are already through Billy and to us who are already aware and awake of who we are. It is our self responsibility and self governance that will save us from this nightmare. Humanity needs to be in one solidarity in spite of our huge differences in belief, race, ethnic group, etc..We only have one home which is Earth which is also being destroyed because of overpopulation. We have no capability to leave this planet to find a new home.This is just my surmise. Who knows where are we now in terms of technological advancement (our Big Brothers don’t tell us everything). Again finding a new planet might just lead to more of the same where we are now or humanity might decide to change its course and decide to be a peaceful human being. The choice is ours. There’s only a few of us, 800 years is a very long time.
I wonder why the Plejaren do the same thing over and over expecting a different result. The public attacks the messenger, corrupts the teachings and cults arise. There has to be a better way to inform the people , quickly and precisely with the pertinent knowledge needed to avoid suffering. We are controlled by insane leaders gifted at deception and mis-information.
If one understands the message, the teaching, the information, then it’s really up to…them to be the change in how and what the real results will be.
While we can recognize and acknowledge the situations and dynamics, viewing oneself as a hopelessly controlled “victim” is not a very self-empowering perspective.
But that’s just it, Barry. We’ve made things this way. We’ve allowed such “insane” elements to hold power over us. People grow so enamored of imaginary deities and false gurus they turn a deaf ear to those who are truly wise and sensible.
Just the other day I was debating a friend who suggested that Billy Meier and the Plejaren weren’t doing a “good enough job” of creating awareness in people. To which I replied, if you tried your damnedest to talk someone out of jumping off a roof, should you carry the blame if that person decided to jump anyway saying that your argument wasn’t “persuasive” enough?
Also, we shouldn’t need the Plejaren’s directions given that we think of ourselves as intelligent beings and like to claim we base our understanding of reality on evidence, which is all around us at this point.
Hey Barry, I write emails to leaders, agencies, Mofon etc.. I am not intimidated by their position or who they are and it’s better then seating on my hands. I believe if enough people could get away from their daily distractions and started actually writing letters or sending emails about the crap that is a serious concern for them, then maybe something might happen. I’m not saying I don’t have distractions but I can separate the two. I don’t think there is a day that goes by at work recently that I don’t mention Billy and what he has spoken about concerning issues of the day. I don’t care if people call Billy a fake or a scam. I’ll say, why do you ridicule the people that are trying to help us without looking at the facts and then dazzle them with logic. That tends to piss them off more because they can’t make a viable argument, they turn and walk away. For me, I take great satisfaction in that when you know your right. It’s just sad that there is no one around I can share it with and they see it with eyes wide open.
Please let us know what you are linking to when you submit links, etc.
This PNG file is a screendump of a website relating to Hillary Clinton and Clinton Foundation. A discussion board between an anonymous inside source and others. One thing is iteresting, will the world now see what the US is actually doing to it! Maybe the big scandal with Clinton Foundation is what makes the world turn away from US?
They even had a hand in getting Trudeau elected. I knew it by the Canadian media constantly asking if Harper was bad or horrible. They are doing the same with Trump. Now we have a name – David Axelrod. Collusion between the DNC/Clinton campaign and the Canadian media outlets – CBC and CTV – FACT.
Mike, when did you send out this email, I rec’d it yesterday but I notice there are comments from Oct 30?
I published it on Oct. 30, I don’t know why the email would’ve been delayed.