There would have been a catastrophic global atomic war had Clinton won

In an excerpt from the 663th Contact Report, November 6, 2016, Billy Meier and Ptaah discussed the recent US presidential election (original German transcript here). While Trump is still regarded as “the lesser of two evils”, choosing him over Clinton avoided a catastrophic global atomic war at this time.

US-America’s election campaign 2016

Excerpt from the 663th contact report between Ptaah and Billy from 6th November 2016

Billy …However, what I want to ask now: Some time ago you told me that in the US the most primitive election campaign ever about the US-presidency fortunately decided thusly, that the majority of the US-population would vote for the lesser evil, by which a world war would be avoided. About that however,I was supposed to be silent,, because the ‘walls in the centre have ears’, consequently everything would be carried out into the world and therewith also to the USA, which would not be good and could negatively influence the electoral process if certain elements found out that Clinton will be ‘sawed off’ in the election and that Trump will take over.

Ptaah   It would have been really dangerous if you had told anything, because a very unpleasant and dangerous uproar would have come about in certain inner circles of government and in certain secret services if they had heard about what I entrusted to you. It would have brought about election-manipulations beyond compare, as well as life-threatening attacks against Trump, and indeed in a secret service wise as well as from the ranks of fanatical Democrats**. He would not have received any help from the Republican party, even though he belongs to it, nevertheless, if I want to disclose my opinion on his behaviour, I must say that he really represents a separate party, namely his own, thus his own one-man-party as it were

As you have rightly assessed him, he is, at least as an election-campaigner in his campaign-motives, chaotic and a catastrophic human being. However, about that I must also say that he is otherwise well-meaning and not bad, also in regard to Russia and Putin with whom he, in an honest form, wants to strive for a peaceful political, military and economical agreement. This in contrast to Clinton, who harbours sneaky and evil warmongering thoughts against Russia and therefore wants to carry out military actions against the Russian military in Syria first, and then also wants to carry out war-attacks against Russia itself. A fact in regard to her thoughts of attack, which she, as an enemy of Putin and Russia, has been harbouring for a long time and which she also wants to carry out. And if she won the presidential election then a nuclear war would be unavoidable. But fortunately this will not come about as I already told you on the 30th June*. Of course next Wednesday the world will be shocked when Trump wins the election, because his mode of speaking was, and is, not the most cultivated one, however, he has good basic approaches in various directions, which he intends to implement if he is not interfered with by his advisors and those who are might-obsessed and want to direct him according to their scheme, and most likely also will in certain matters, as it has been the case with all US presidents and will continue to be so.

However, if he succeeds he will set out against globalisation and also against the USA interfering too much in foreign nations, as it has done up to now and thereby neglecting the order in its own country, rather building it up again [the order].

However, time will tell to what extent he will be able to push through his basic ideas, because beside him are all the might-obsessed ones around him, who do not let him act according to free will, but who will try to steer him at their own discretion, as it was the case with Obama also, who was lacking the necessities to be able to prevail.

And because Trump is not really a politician but a man of business, in this regard he will have a difficult standing as president in his own government department. This will also be the case in regard to foreign policies, whereby also the machinations of the EU dictatorship will be decisive for it, because once he has assumed presidency it will make an effort, through renewed negotiations, to restore the close relationships and connections with the White House and the US government which it lost through his election.

And as far as I know the EU dictatorship will try to pull the USA onto its side and together with it form a political, economic and military might-coalition, whereby already very early a forming of a coalition is attempted, indeed as soon as the first shock has passed, which will hit the dictatorship, because it does not expect Donald Trump but Hillary Clinton to win the election, who has an engaging and accommodating stand towards the EU dictatorship.

Billy   We will see what happens, whereby I do not doubt that your prediction from June was right and that the catastrophic human being, that is to say, the lesser evil will win the US presidency – thus Trump. …

Billy   Once more a question about Donald Trump: You said that this man is well-meaning, not bad and in some things completely misinformed – what is to be understood by that?

Ptaah   He is not of low intelligence and not the bad human being that he will be accused of being by his adversaries, who will set upon him and also try to cause riots, because none of them know which insidious thoughts and plans his opponent Hillary Clinton really harbours, through which she would trigger a world-wide catastrophe if she came into power. And in order for this to happen, deceitful machinations will be initiated after the election, in order to prove allegedly false election results, by which Trump has illegally won his office. However, what will result of this planned deception, this we have not yet fathomed, which is why I cannot give any details to this. As far as the election campaign speeches by Trump are concerned, these are, first of all, just campaign speeches, which must not be understood as effective in their entire form, because the entire radical appearing ‘calling-out’ as you have often described such speeches, are only partially or not at all to be taken seriously, because as a rule these are always relativised after taking office. Additionally Trump is in certain things that he champions wrongly informed, as for example in regard to climate change, as well as Obama Care and other things, wherefore however there is hope that he will think of something better in this regard. This will in fact be the case, therefore he listens to reason and will also refrain from non-earnestly meant campaign issues and will revise some wrong values, which correspond in his clumsy campaign speeches only to purposeful platitudes.

Billy   I see, that’s what is behind your remark.

Ptaah  Which in effect I should have explained better.

Billy   Which is done now, so do not make a problem of it.


*In 2008, Ptaah seemed to hint at Clinton’s defeat also in 2016, when he said the world would be spared her destructiveness.

**The political polarization and violence, mainly coming from the radical left, is already in evidence and could foreshadow the still predicted two coming US civil wars. Those who may now recognize the authenticity and accuracy of Meier’s information may wish to help avert these wars, and other catastrophes, by studying elements of the spiritual teaching, including The Might of the Thoughts and The Way to Live.

Thanks to Bruce Lulla, VIbka Walder and Stefan Zutt for translation work.

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205 comments on “Trump: According to Billy Meier and the Plejaren

  • Looking forward, as Billy has stated, it’s up to you to start voting in people of high values in your local municipalities and maybe by 2020 you will have the people that can stop civil wars. I understand that some people are not into politics but it’s imperative to learn. If it wasn’t, I doubt that Ptaah would bother investigating earth politics, but he does, so you should too.

  • Sorry to be off topic but there’s been a 7.3 magnitude earthquake in Japan, back up generators not working, it’s getting hot.

  • Here are two website that you better read and check out about Trump `s inner cir4cle and team: From 1. Trump`s Inner Circle: Here Come the Troglodytes by Melvin Goodman 2.Rump`s Team Will Start New Wars in the Middle East by Patric Cockburn Please also check out on the oine hour intervies with Jeremy Scahill as he talks about the Trump cabal starting come to life which will mahe Dick chaney look tame etc,etc,etc!

    • Terry, don’t be so sure about that Dick Cheney comparison. If Hillary was President, it would be lights-out. The 1st order of business in defeating her and thereby electing Trump was avoiding conflict with Russia, ultimately a nuclear one, as Ptaah points out.

      Some critics have said that Trump is more interested in making money than making war and making money from war, which has been the job of most Presidents dating back to LBJ and culminating with Nobel Peace Prize Weener Obama, who rightly wants sensible gun regulations/gun-controls in the homeland USA, but traveled the globe as the top salesman in history for the military industrial complex, i.e. Northrup, Lockheed, Boeing, Ratheon, etc etc. He has armed the planet to its teeth. Billions in arms sold to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. have ended up in the hands of ISIS, so we can keep on fighting and keep on sending tax dollars to improve the earnings reports of the above mentioned companies.

  • Trump as a businessman wants stability in order to make money ,create jobs and business opportunities. He will not welcome troublemakers to USA like extremists or drug dealers. He learned to avoid paying taxes the legal loopholes way because he earned his money the hard way. Hillary on the other hand is just a politician. So who funded her. Politicians all over the world are very good at stealing their folks hard earned money and then create issues to fool them. In Malaysia the ruling party steals the big way unashamely yet those pirates are protected by the law that they controlled and then created race and religion issues to divert attention. We need more Trumps because he gots the gut to say a spade a spade.

    • I am not sure he necessarily earned it the hard way. I am sure it can be said that he worked hard, just like lots of other people, but he did not come up from nothing. I am originally from Queens, NY just like Trump. He comes from Jamaica Estates. That is an extremely wealthy area and he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I also know some general contractors in NY who do not respect him, because he does not pay his bills. He gets the work out of you, but then has a habit of not paying. That is not honorable. Just sayin

  • Believing in the laws of cause and effect could only lead me to believe something similar to what Ptaah told Meier. Hillary has bad history with the US people and foreign powers that were created either since her time as a first lady or apart if the Obama administration. Her email scandal also does not help and can give any thinking person a general idea of what type of person she is.

    Yes, the internet troll trolled his way to the presidency, but again the lesser of 2 evils.
    I had a similar conversation with my friend who feels impacted by Hillary’s loss, so I will be sharing this blog to him now.

  • I just read the New York Times articles about how Trump will censore journalist and free speach including doing away with the Freedom of information Act(FOIA) and Civil Libeties(ACLU) and how Trump will use his twitter account to blast anyone who dosen `t agree with him including the fact that he wants to kill Ed Snowden etc,etc,etc! Looks like Trump is going to turn the US into a dictatorship etc,etc,etc! Check out todays NedwYork Times to find out what Trump will do once he is elected on January 21rst 2017 and you`ll see just what I mean!

    • Very,

      Calm down, there is going to be a lot of information/disinformation/hysteria. I suggest not participating and just watching developments as they…change.

    • Terry, you missed the essence of this entire election result and why Trump won.
      The NY Times is US State Dept propaganda-, misinfo-, disinfo-central, i.e. a certified fake news site.

      • Hi Bruce now the EU has voted against “Russian Propanda” and has listed RT and other Russian news agencies right up there with IS as terrorist organizations. The EU dictatorship doesn’t want it’s minions to really know what’s going on and are punishing them for publishing wikileaks.

        • What more do people need to see to wake the frick up?? This is insanity. Amazing that a lot, or most, Americans see Russia as mainstream media propaganda instructs us to. Without thinking about it themselves. What have they done to the USA that makes most feel this way? I ask that question and I hear about human rights violations. I laugh out loud and then i shake my head at them all! So gullible are the USA citizens. What country has violated human rights more than the US? Who are we, as a country, to judge? I truly hope Trump mends whatever wounds need mended with Russia.

          • I agree Adrian. What I like best about is that it reveals the news at least a couple days before western media is shamed into reporting it. I also find information that western media will not report at all which is kind of disturbing especially when it relates to environmental disasters that effects the whole world.

          • Yes Adrian and I wish Trump pulls all Americans out of foreign countries and help them help fix America and they should stay in America where they can do the most productive good in their own country. Trump will dump the EU because the EU are foreigners and they are not Americans.

      • Bruce I didn`t even bother to watch thje eklection results because not just the stupid propagandis attitude of news but also becaues I knew that BTH Trump and Hilary are just “ROTTEN BAD people” they just WON`T give alternative choices a chance AT ALL do I mad up my mind NOT to watch the election results AT ALL for that very reason! Now we are ALL in for “VERY VERY BAD TIMES!”

  • My thoughts are had Hilary Clinton got elected and terrorized the world with a global war then we would not have been able to read the book Goblet of Truth because that book was originally planned for the year 2017, however the Plejaren advised Billy to complete it much sooner in which he did amazingly.

  • “Additionally Trump is in certain things that he champions wrongly informed, as for example in regard to climate change, as well as Obama Care and other things, wherefore however there is hope that he will think of something better in this regard.”

    Is Trump already starting to listen to reason on climate change according to this link? Here’s to hoping so!

    • I certainly hope so, Matthew. After they announced the result of the election, I made one giant sigh of relief much to my family and friend’s chagrin. I expressed to them that the media’s endless speculation about the upcoming “fascist” administration notwithstanding, President Elect Trump is still a question mark. With Clinton, on the other hand, you know exactly what you’re getting: more wars. I’m no fan of The Donald, but he’ll have to do in light of the alternative.
      Apparently, having an independent candidate that’s neither Republican nor Democrat becoming president is too much to ask for in the case of the US. Anyway, reading this article, I guess we dodged another bullet… for now.

      • Quick addendum: in the last paragraph of my previous comment, it should read “become president” not “becoming president.” My apologies for the poor grammar.


  • Hi David Here is what I`m sencing: I don`t thing Trump is as far right wing as they say he is. trump made some bad moves in his administration and cabinet being too militaristic. Tr ump really is a businessman out for the money and gabled on becoming a [politician. To me Trump is just blowing out alot of hot air and stream with alot of bludtering using his emotoinal blustering posture,nobody is perfect,we`re akll human ans we all make mistakes,even the ps make mistakes too. Just aks Billy and MH.

    • Hi, Terry.
      You could be right about Trump. I never subscribed to the media’s fear-mongering regarding the Republican nominee as they are clearly biased toward Clinton. I don’t think Trump is a “right-winger”, either. I don’t think he’s even a bigot as many depict him. Trump is just adept at playing to the crowd. He had started the “birther” tomfoolery years ago not out of racism against the president, in my opinion, but possibly because Obama was trying to raise taxes on the rich and, no doubt, to get his fifteen minutes of fame.
      I do have a funny feeling that Trump was just as surprised at winning the election as the majority of people. Anyway, he’s preferable to Clinton who is the one that’s actually power-obsessed and also poses an extreme danger to world peace.

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