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Trump: According to Billy Meier and the Plejaren

There would have been a catastrophic global atomic war had Clinton won

In an excerpt from the 663th Contact Report, November 6, 2016, Billy Meier and Ptaah discussed the recent US presidential election (original German transcript here). While Trump is still regarded as “the lesser of two evils”, choosing him over Clinton avoided a catastrophic global atomic war at this time.

US-America’s election campaign 2016

Excerpt from the 663th contact report between Ptaah and Billy from 6th November 2016

Billy …However, what I want to ask now: Some time ago you told me that in the US the most primitive election campaign ever about the US-presidency fortunately decided thusly, that the majority of the US-population would vote for the lesser evil, by which a world war would be avoided. About that however, I was supposed to be silent,, because the ‘walls in the centre have ears’, consequently everything would be carried out into the world and therewith also to the USA, which would not be good and could negatively influence the electoral process if certain elements found out that Clinton will be ‘sawed off’ in the election and that Trump will take over.

Ptaah   It would have been really dangerous if you had told anything, because a very unpleasant and dangerous uproar would have come about in certain inner circles of government and in certain secret services if they had heard about what I entrusted to you. It would have brought about election-manipulations beyond compare, as well as life-threatening attacks against Trump, and indeed in a secret service wise as well as from the ranks of fanatical Democrats*. He would not have received any help from the Republican party, even though he belongs to it, nevertheless, if I want to disclose my opinion on his behaviour, I must say that he really represents a separate party, namely his own, thus his own one-man-party as it were

As you have rightly assessed him, he is, at least as an election-campaigner in his campaign-motives, chaotic and a catastrophic human being. However, about that I must also say that he is otherwise well-meaning and not bad, also in regard to Russia and Putin with whom he, in an honest form, wants to strive for a peaceful political, military and economical agreement. This in contrast to Clinton, who harbours sneaky and evil warmongering thoughts against Russia and therefore wants to carry out military actions against the Russian military in Syria first, and then also wants to carry out war-attacks against Russia itself. A fact in regard to her thoughts of attack, which she, as an enemy of Putin and Russia, has been harbouring for a long time and which she also wants to carry out. And if she won the presidential election then a nuclear war would be unavoidable. But fortunately this will not come about as I already told you on the 30th June**. Of course next Wednesday the world will be shocked when Trump wins the election, because his mode of speaking was, and is, not the most cultivated one, however, he has good basic approaches in various directions, which he intends to implement if he is not interfered with by his advisors and those who are might-obsessed and want to direct him according to their scheme, and most likely also will in certain matters, as it has been the case with all US presidents and will continue to be so.

However, if he succeeds he will set out against globalisation and also against the USA interfering too much in foreign nations, as it has done up to now and thereby neglecting the order in its own country, rather building it up again [the order].

However, time will tell to what extent he will be able to push through his basic ideas, because beside him are all the might-obsessed ones around him, who do not let him act according to free will, but who will try to steer him at their own discretion, as it was the case with Obama also, who was lacking the necessities to be able to prevail.

And because Trump is not really a politician but a man of business, in this regard he will have a difficult standing as president in his own government department. This will also be the case in regard to foreign policies, whereby also the machinations of the EU dictatorship will be decisive for it, because once he has assumed presidency it will make an effort, through renewed negotiations, to restore the close relationships and connections with the White House and the US government which it lost through his election.

And as far as I know the EU dictatorship will try to pull the USA onto its side and together with it form a political, economic and military might-coalition, whereby already very early a forming of a coalition is attempted, indeed as soon as the first shock has passed, which will hit the dictatorship, because it does not expect Donald Trump but Hillary Clinton to win the election, who has an engaging and accommodating stand towards the EU dictatorship.

Billy   We will see what happens, whereby I do not doubt that your prediction from June was right and that the catastrophic human being, that is to say, the lesser evil will win the US presidency – thus Trump. …

Billy   Once more a question about Donald Trump: You said that this man is well-meaning, not bad and in some things completely misinformed – what is to be understood by that?

Ptaah   He is not of low intelligence and not the bad human being that he will be accused of being by his adversaries, who will set upon him and also try to cause riots, because none of them know which insidious thoughts and plans his opponent Hillary Clinton really harbours, through which she would trigger a world-wide catastrophe if she came into power. And in order for this to happen, deceitful machinations will be initiated after the election, in order to prove allegedly false election results, by which Trump has illegally won his office. However, what will result of this planned deception, this we have not yet fathomed, which is why I cannot give any details to this. As far as the election campaign speeches by Trump are concerned, these are, first of all, just campaign speeches, which must not be understood as effective in their entire form, because the entire radical appearing ‘calling-out’ as you have often described such speeches, are only partially or not at all to be taken seriously, because as a rule these are always relativised after taking office. Additionally Trump is in certain things that he champions wrongly informed, as for example in regard to climate change, as well as Obama Care and other things, wherefore however there is hope that he will think of something better in this regard. This will in fact be the case, therefore he listens to reason and will also refrain from non-earnestly meant campaign issues and will revise some wrong values, which correspond in his clumsy campaign speeches only to purposeful platitudes.

Billy   I see, that’s what is behind your remark.

Ptaah  Which in effect I should have explained better.

Billy   Which is done now, so do not make a problem of it.

 

*The political polarization and violence, mainly coming from the radical left, is already in evidence and could foreshadow the still predicted two coming US civil wars. Those who may now recognize the authenticity and accuracy of Meier’s information may wish to help avert these wars, and other catastrophes, by studying elements of the spiritual teaching, including The Might of the Thoughts and The Way to Live.

**In 2008, Ptaah seemed to hint at Clinton’s defeat also in 2016, when he said the world would be spared her destructiveness.

 

Thanks to Bruce Lulla, VIbka Walder and Stefan Zutt for translation work.

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Brock Bradford

Thanks for the update Michael…. I will share this with those who are bellyaching the world will come to an end because dear woman Clinton was not elected…. I do look forward to the time of the “Mothers of the new Millennium” when the true Woman nurturing energy brings peace in wisdom.

Carolyn Snyder

If the Plejaren really do have the ability to see into the future, then everything is laid out for them with a certain inevitability. Therefore, no other results are possible than what they have seen. So Hillary was never going to win the election. They knew this all along.

Carolyn Snyder

Indeed it its their knowledge of the future which prohibits them from taking any action at all!
Their hands are tied and they know this.

Terry Carch

If the plejarens are not into interstellar bondage where and how did and do they feel and deal with the issues of moral and ethical values safe values when it comes to helping yonger worlds like Earth and others to survive morally,ethically and safely such as the issues of war and peace if and when a world is growing and learning when it comes to worlds that are less sprirtual,advanced I men younger worlds like Earth who aren`t as evoled as they are? How can we learn to repare the damage done to Earth over so many eons in time of Earth history such as the Baffa influences like relgion and politics for example and militarisms etc?

Darcy Wade Carlile

I doubt the Plejaren looked into the future for that conclusion. They do have other technologies that can obtain this information and they know psychology and they know how multi-face and 2- faced we Earth humans can be especially those politicians in an election. The Plejaren don’t want to know the future because that is not a creational law, they follow cause and effect creational laws.

Wyatt Clancy

In the link to the transcript, in the first paragraph, Meier says, “because the walls in the center had ears.” Has the center been bugged? And yes, we are fortunate that Trump won, even though he is still mostly an idiot.

Darcy Wade Carlile

I read in the contact reports that some Earth technologies like the secret services have for spying use some sort of a radiation or resonance that can be steered to places on the Earth for bugging other people. The waves come from a underground laboratory that can also block the Plejaren’s devices from listening on them.

Sheila Clark

Hi Wyatt, several years ago I called my telephone service provider and asked if my calls were being monitored. I was told they are under no obligation to tell me either way, whether I am being monitored or not. When one of them showed up to fix my severed phone line, I asked the repairman. He said they can do that right there in the office. Recent wikileaks revealed the NSA is spying on all German citizens. So just assume that every conversation is being monitored. But never let that stop you from speaking the truth. It has never stopped me and it shouldn’t stop you either. And it certainly hasn’t stopped MH. But I do understand why it stopped Billy and for good reasons, so I’m really glad he didn’t.

Wyatt Clancy

I just assume that the NSA/CIA monitors every device connected to the internet. Trawling through all that data for specific information would be extremely difficult, however.

Carolyn Snyder

Thank you for keeping us all informed about the latest contact reports, etc. It’s too much for me to follow all of this through the FIGU site. Your blog is much easier to read.

matt lee

Hold on whilst I get the jumper lead

Carolyn Snyder

Michael Hesemann, someone who has done some research into FIGU in the past (you can find his information there somewhere) has become a right-wing radical Catholic. You wouldn’t believe what he is posting on his FB page these days! However, he was definitely pushing in the direction of a Trump Presidency, and I can’t help thinking that he was very much influenced by what he heard through FIGU. . . . whether he admits knowing Billy these days or not is open to question!

Terry Carch

Mabye Hessman should log on to Alex Jones for a biting commentary from Alex Jones for excitement etc.

matt lee

Let me know if a bandage is needed I have a spare sitting around my first aid box.

Norman DeCindis

I knew it. I’m so glad I voted for Trump. If people only had listened to what Trump said rather than what the Controlled Media tells them.
Billy said,
Hillary = “The Devil is loose”
Trump = “Just as Dumb”
Devil scares me a little more than Dumb.

Sheila Clark

Hi Norm, thank you for voting for Trump and I thank everyone else who used their common sense as well. I noticed the flack you got for your opinion, but you persevered, so again, job well done. Anyone who could not see through the media lies and voted for Hillary needs to study people more because it will be to their benefit in the future to be able to determine whether someone is lying or not. I honestly thought that Hillary would win due to stored votes like in 2000, I’m glad I was wrong. Thanks also to the Rust Belt for averting WW4.

matt lee

From what I have read Sheila there was a bit of that fraudulent activity going on but Trump must have won by a landslide for that to be ineffective.
I still don’t buy the fact that Hillary won the popular vote.
Hah!?

Norman DeCindis

Thanks, Sheila, I heard 3 million votes were from Illegal Immigrants. We know they would favor pro amnesty Hillary. The Democrats fought hard against Voter I.D. laws.

Scott Baxter

Hi, I’m confused, With the election of Trump are the two potential Civil Wars averted, or were these wars the result of Hillary’s winning in addition to atomic warfare?

Norman DeCindis

Civil War will be next as the Globalist lose control of the USA. The ‘Useful Idiots’ will help them. IMO its already started. The Global Media is hitting Trump non-stop.

Bruce Lulla

The globalists will not go down without a fight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html

Even the intelligence agencies have defectors from the globalist agenda. They voted for Trump and are letting him know, what they know, and that they will assist in his efforts to drain the swamp. Therefore, the seeds for civil war are most certainly there beneath the surface, but germinating. Let’s hope they don’t break the surface in a big way.

Sheila Clark

Very true Michael. The last tally I saw put Trump above Hillary at 699,993 of the popular vote. Those were my thoughts too Matt, that he had a yuge amount more to have offset the computer stored votes for Hillary.

Darcy Wade Carlile

I agree with MH’s opinion.

shaban pelinku

At this point the civil wars will inevitably happen

Stefan Loeschl

and when? 2033/2035??

Matthew Deagle

More like 2025.

Shaban Pelinku

Based on a dream I had three years ago I say around 2023

Stefan Loeschl

and is there a war going to come after those two civil wars? I dont hope so, I hope that the peace-medit. is going to give us all a new path…

Adrian Martinez

I wonder if the prediction of the civil war was pre-peace meditation? Meaning if no one did the mediation, or followed the teaching of the spirit, then in 2020 a civil war will happen….I guess my question is does the peace meditation and more and more people following the spiritual teaching has any influence on the prediction of civil war?

matt lee

If I have read Billy’s statement correctly this may depend on whether Trump gets reelected I am assuming.

Terry Carch

MH Could the Civil Wars lead to a nuclear war? Thanks Salome and Peace Terry

Greg Dougall

I just finally finished reading “The Way To Live”, cover to cover.

matt lee

Wow Greg now I realise why they call it speed reading, you just have to read the cover.

Mark Campbell

This helps to be able to endure the new president . Thanks for publishing it , Michael .

kane sean

Seems like Plejaren are quite optimistic about Trump (besides the possible civic war). Hopefully more contact notes soon in regards to this topic.

Dougal McRae

Truly, Trump has “balls of steel” to have taken on these people, and won.

Carolyn Snyder

Trump is a megalomaniac control freak who has gotten rich on the backs of the American working class. How in the world do you think he became a multi-billionaire in such a short time? He became what he is by being an absolutely ruthless power broker in the business world and by using other human beings and their work to aggrandize himself and his power base. It would not surprise me if he had made many nefarious deals with the New York Mafia and criminal underworld. He has literally “bought” this election and the presidency for himself. If a potential nuclear war has been averted, I could suggest that Trump’s finger on the nuclear trigger could become very unstable if he can’t make the deals with Putin and the Russians that will benefit his own interests. Believe me, Donald Trump puts himself FIRST and ALWAYS FIRST. That’s why he became who he is today. I suspect that he’s a total psychopath with no empathy or sympathy for any other human being, apart from those who benefit Trump. He is a person who walks over corpses and in this respect he is no better than Hilary and Bill Clinton. No, the threat of nuclear war is not averted. We now have an extremely unstable megalomaniac at the controls of the United States Administration. May the non-existent God of the Universe take pity on us all!

Brian Covington

I can understand that Trump’s election as the next president helps us avoid a nuclear war with Russia because Clinton didn’t win the election because her intentions were to start a nuclear war with Russia as the Plajaren are saying. But what I don’t understand is why the Plajaren never mention the racism Trump is spewing along with his supporters that is causing so much divisiveness against minorities,women and Muslims. He has even appointed people to his presidential cabinet that many people consider to be rascist and also children of a lot of his supporters are going to school saying rascist things to minority children and Trump was getting support from the Ku Klux klan and other hate organizations.Just curious as to why the Plajaren never mention this.Are they just generalizing this as one of the reasons why we may have civil war in America and there is no need to mention this?I would like to know their take or someone here on the blog what their opinion is about this.
Thanks.

Terry Carch

MH What about people who are handicapped,diablrd and senor sitizens too? Will there be a rogh ride for me too as well? Thanks Salome Terry

Norman DeCindis

Veteran Reporter Exposes The New York Times’ Arrogant, Disconnected, Agenda Driven Perspective https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/11/11/veteran-reporter-exposes-the-new-york-times-arrogant-disconnected-agenda-driven-perspective/

Norman DeCindis

Head of pro-Israel group backs Steve Bannon http://nyp.st/2fZK7pM via @nypost
Plenty of info if you search for it. I even used a more mainstream paper.

Norman DeCindis

Stop listening to the corrupt news media & their lies. Do your own research. They are demonizng everything Trump does with Racism its all they have left.

Norman DeCindis

Trump and the false racism.

kane sean

but one thing that I am skeptical about is why the CIA and FBI didn’t take any effort to stop Wikileak from damaging Clinton’s reputation. In addition, FBI all of the sudden decided to “look into the email case” just a few days before the election which ultimately destroyed Clinton.

I am just wondering if the elites actually wanted Trump to win. Because Clinton has too much to hide and it is not worth the time and money to save her.

Darcy Wade Carlile

I always had a strong impulse for decades after I watched the 1983 movie by Stephan King “The Dead Zone”. Somebody else has those same thoughts in this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snbagejb8s

Rasmus Outzen

I read the conversation between Billy and Ptaah in German (with a little help from Google Translate).

After that conversation, there is a translation of an article by John Pilger; one of my favourite journalists, incidentally. It is about propaganda and mentions the ‘godfather of propaganda’: Edward Bernays.

Another person who knows extensively about Edward Bernays is Mark Crispin Miller, who claims there is significant evidence that suggests both 2000 and 2004 were rigged – and now again in 2016. He emphasises that the Democrats probably also wanted to or did rig it in their favour – and certainly already did in the primaries against Bernie Sanders (as proven with leaked primary sources by WikiLeaks).

Billy and Ptaah doesn’t mention anything about that in that conversation, which seems to be cut off. Maybe we are not supposed to know that yet.

But maybe parts of the Deep State decided to rig the election against Hillary R. Clinton for pure realist reasons. Maybe they saw a legitimate reason to fear her madness. I certainly feared WWIII would be a likely outcome of her election (and so did Russia it seems). Found a strange relief when a friend called me early morning 8:00, Copenhagen/Berlin time, and informed me of Killary’s fall.

MCM right before election:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxXKr2hKCz0
MCM on ‘Redacted Tonight’ just after election:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PPuYul9Nao
(Note how many Russia Today following Trumpbots are just as self-deluded as the socalled Hillbots.)

Also Edward Snowden shared this with us just before the election on how easy it is to hack the voting machines:
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/795424579715940352
The Sun: https://t.co/RUUScnmxZs

More on Mark Crispin Miller:
http://markcrispinmiller.com/
https://twitter.com/mcrispinmiller

Sheila Clark

Believe me they tried to shut down wikileaks and current links are not working. The day of the election no one could get on there. So they worked hard to stop it. The fact that Comey came out saying there was nothing in the emails (you were right about that Matt Knight) was to throw everyone off as the real concern is the corrupt Clinton Foundation. Ron Paul just sent out a tweet naming all the talking heads from various fake news organizations like CNN, ABC, politico etc with links to wikileaks to prove they lied to the people, but those links aren’t working. Go to RT.com as they have summaries of the wikileaks that were released. Very damning. But something every American needs to read.

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