David Brin, scientist and sci-fi author takes a dim view of the UFO topic and anyone who challenges his “expertise” and – conversations with aliens!
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MH: Hi David,
My friend suggested I get in touch with you regarding UFO evidence, etc.
I had a laugh that you said that given enough time you could “fake any UFO photo”. I guess your specialty is sci-fi, while mine is actual research.
Try this short video:
UFO Contactee Films Himself and UFO!
See these:
HICCCS Receives Requested Billy Meier UFO Evidence
Twin and Triple Black Holes Discovered 11 Years After Billy Meier Predicted!
…and feel free to get back to me if you’re ever interested in the science…without the fiction!
Sincerely,
DB: There are no humans alive who have explore concepts of the ‘alien’ from more angles than I have. UFO stuff is at the silly end. Even the ‘tic tacs’ are so blatantly human-generated plasma balls that I am stunned at all the absurd talk of ‘ships’ violating every law of physics.
There are between one and ten million times as many active cameras on Earth as there were, back in the glory days of saucer photos. Yet, despite that, the images keep getting fuzzier and fuzzier.
Any UFO blather that ignores that fact is tendentious deceit.
MH: You’ve just encountered someone who knows infinitely more than you do.
Had you bothered to see the easily accessible evidence, you wouldn’t make such a foolish remark to me of all people.
My – courtroom quality – research is supported by astronauts, national intelligence experts, aerospace, scientific, photographic, cinematographic, special effects, legal and other experts.
You’re probably a nice guy, and a good sci-fi writer, but you wouldn’t want to debate me. I’ve long ago mopped the floor with all the top international skeptics who tried.
Stick to what you do best, my friend, this isn’t it!
MH
DB: Go away.
MH: The predictable response.
You either clicked the link, or indeed have some wisdom.
Good luck.
DB: We disagree which of us is an insane fool.
But note. You barged into my world. I asked you to go away. You did not. So we have settled one thing. You are a rude asshole, ill raised by whomever raised you.
MH: Hey, would you mind if I published our brief correspondence?
I usually write articles about the various poseurs who I either, gently, demolish, or who run away.
Do remember that you responded to my first email, made nonsensical claims but were then unable to substantiate them.
MH
DB: Hell yes I mind! You will rave something or other with intent to harm me, stabbing my reputation in the back where I cannot reply.
Yes, I made a mistake answering you. I have repeated that mistake.
I am the victim and injured party here.
I will never mention your name elsewhere and hope to forget it. YOU I ask to do the same, but you won’t. And that is why the aliens talk to me and not to the likes of you.
Go… away… never come back.
MH: Dave,
Not true. I will let your own words, and mine, speak for themselves.
And you absolutely will be able to reply.
Heck, you’ll even have the opportunity to substantiate your claims of expertise, etc.!
Inquiring minds want to know. Don’t be a whiner and a sissy, you’re not a victim, a bit of a poseur but not a victim.
I suggest that you keep reading up on the info I provided. Maybe then we could substitute a good old-fashioned discussion, debate, whatever. Feel free to ask questions, challenge, etc. I can take it.
Up to you.
Take care,
MH
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UPDATE!
Now, just after publication of this article, Dave wrote to, er, congratulate me and compliment my parents on the fine job they did raising me, their little lump of love:
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DB: Every such pathetic expression of your obsession only proves you are a deeply rude person, whose parents should be ashamed of their rotten job. I ask politely agin for you to go away. You won’t and each repeated plea for attention is actually a wee bit amusing.
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MH: I kept my word, published our correspondence – with your wild, unsubstantiated claims. And you’re free to respond, refute and rebut on the blog.
If you only knew how many poseurs I’ve busted…or who’ve busted themselves with their idiotic “I’m a scientist so I must have something important to say about a, now trendy, subject I know nothing about.”. (List available on request.)
MH
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UPDATED UPDATE!
After all of the above, Dave still hasn’t substantiated his own claim:
“And that is why the aliens talk to me and not to the likes of you.”
“There are between one and ten million times as many active cameras on Earth as there were, back in the glory days of saucer photos. Yet, despite that, the images keep getting fuzzier and fuzzier.” I would expect these so called experts to understand a little bit more about cameras, focal lengths, and lenses before making such a statement. Not all cameras are created equal and not all lenses produce the same quality image.
With his stunted ability to perceive anything outside of himself, his sci-fi material would have to be crap at best. All the good sci-fi writers have disappeared. I guess they must have been abducted by ET.
Another opportunity to construct a mutually respectful rational conversation on a topic of utmost importance . . . goes down the tubes. I don’t register any anger in the MH approach . . but the DB thing . . well, it seems like cornering a defensive raccoon! Choose your own emoji. . . .
Perhaps his ‘good human nature’ was abducted by the aliens he claims are talking to him? I for one officially request that he provide a baby photo or two, to go along with his childishly rude and impolite responses.
Some people just can’t handle the harsh truth, especially when asked to look in the mirror.
UPDATE: Response from the self professed victim, Baby ‘I need a new diaper’ Brin:
“Andreas Logue, sir, I utterly reject your right to judge me. Mr. Horn has insistently and repeatedly come into my spaces and acted like a thug. He has screeched and howled and demanded attention, despite my repeated pleas for us to part company.
I promised to never speak of or think of him again and asked him to do likewise for me.
Now I find, without a hint of surprise, that he has attacked me elsewhere, seeking to use gossipy whines to draw others into assailing someone who is the only injured party, here.
I had no knowledge of Mr. Horn’s parents. As YOU KNOW DAMNED WELL,, I was referring to Mr. Horn’s total lack of manners.
Perhaps his parents tried to raise a decent person and simply failed.
You will doubtless do as he has done and attack me elsewhere on some lame pretext. To which all I can say is that I have asked you to leave me alone. Any continuation proves you are also a thug.”
***Original email message to him:
Mr. David Brin,
As a subscriber to theyflyblog, I found your latest response “…whose parents should be ashamed of their rotten job.” to Michael Horn in regards to his deceased mother and father absolutely appalling. https://theyflyblog.com/2022/08/the-1st-robin-hanson-award-for-useless-esoterica-goes-to/
Frankly, it seems that perhaps you are the one who should feel ashamed. But, most likely this will be impossible because your ‘good human nature’ appears to have dissolved.
The meaning of life for the human being, is to evolve into true human beings. Striving towards our self betterment not only benefits us personally, but in turn benefits all humankind. This, I have learned from Billy Meier, and I have Michael Horn to thank.
We’ve all got much to learn and improve on—please join the club!
Sincerely,
Andrea Logue
Wow! Instead of sci-fi, he should look into the DRAMA genre. He’s perfect!
And once he’s retired altogether from writing absolute nonsense, he could start a hip hop group called Brin Thugs-N-Disharmony!
After reading Dave’s latest responses to Andrea and Michael, I’m appalled.
The only real thug is David Brin. He was incredibly rude and nasty after Michael politely sent him the first inquiry. His behavior after that was nothing short of idiotic and arrogant. He’s a prime example of why the world has gone down the shitter and now stands at the abyss.
And then Andrea’s beautifully worded response was met with more vile hatred and verbal diarrhea. Dave fancies himself a sophisticated writer but spews nothing but empty words. When the world that he helped to create begins to crumble all around him, he’ll be curled up in a ball crying and wondering what happened.
It’s because of schmuck’s like you, David Brin!
Thanks MH and Mel I had to laugh so hard at DB Ha ha ha ha!:)))) That DB is such a thug it`s hard to believe he is even a scifi writer! Ha Ha “DB better stick to writing classic novels!”
It’s quite peculiar and befuddling that some people would rather jump into the abyss clinging to their lies and puffed up egos than to acknowledge and correct their own inadequacies and shortcomings. But in a topsy-turvy world this is normal behavior.
‘normal insanity’
Welcome to the insane asylum John! 🙂
Andrea . . . it’s so good that you’re part of the backbone on this blog! Thanks much to everyone else who embody the longevity!
Doesn’t it feel good to be part of the—hands-down—most important online outlet for news and information in the world?! Michael and Melissa are the backbone—you’ll find me somewhere in the xiphoid process… 🙂 Salome John, best wishes to you!
Mr DB comes across as somewhat Narcissistic and histrionic, with a rather over-inflated sense of self-importance and need for notoriety, given I might add, to those whom as children were made practically invisible by emotionally absent parents who develop a penchant for inventing fantasy and imaginary friends and places, formulating supernatural delusions as methods of escapism, looking for ways to be seen and heard.
Sadly, when they grow into adulthood with vast experience of this, the result is a confusion between reality vs non-reality, a dangerous flirtation with pathological falsehood, and an absence of self-awareness.
The swiftness of Mr DB’s rejection and use of belittlement and know-it-allism is an instant ‘fight’ response to a threat of his phoney world.
I’ll guarantee that if you bought his catalogue of sci-fi stories you’d actually piece together the mans entire childhood. I bet you’ll also find a lot of similar Colliarisms in his work too
I think we have all met a DB personality more than once in our lives, and seen a plethora of these grandiose attention seekers come and go, and disappear back into obscurity, so it should be no surprise to anyone how they behave when collared.
But for those looking in who are perhaps new, please be aware we do not attack DB nor unfairly invalidate him as a human being. It is just his behaviour being held to stiff reproach.
Salome.
Shoots, Mike…you know, folks would respond better if you would restrain yourself…the Rainbow-Rule, and all?
Draw them to You, and, calmly, then hit them over-the-head with Facts, Mike…your approach could use some fine-tuning; is what I mean…
These matters should be handled with composure…again: think about what the Plejaren would want.
Aloha,
-rex resa
Ok, Mr. Michael Horn, Since all of theme degreed lunatics are scared to debate with you, I will; BRING IT ON PAL! (lol)
Now you’re talking!
“I whole hartly agree with you MH.” :-)))) High Fives :-))))
That’s brilliant Micheal, your witty ways and the corroborated evidence will succumb to no loser, I can’t believe that there is so many absolute dead heads out there, who are supposed to be the educated! This DB guy is one of the biggest of them all. Hanson is on the same level for sure. It’s more than serious and these clowns just don’t grasp it!
Keep on at them Michael, luff definitely the best at it!! And then some!
Salome
That should say… “your definitely the best at it!!”
Salome
DB doesn’t stand for David Brin, it really stands for Douche Bag; exactly what David is.
Sees the truth right in front of his ugly mug, yet willfully acts defensive and ignorant of the voluminous information, wisdom and facts right before his eyes. All due to his thinking that he is important; he and his ilk are f’ing idiotic degenerative simpletons, plain and simple, fact. If it wasn’t for Eduard and the Plejaren, they (DB and his kind) wouldn’t even have a career, let alone a life; once again, facts.
And people wonder why Michael appears a little jaded, annoyed and pissed off at times. Those who possess common sense, insight and love for humanity and it’s questionable future can see why. At this point in time and where we’re at as a global unity, Michael deserves to be a little pissed off when all he’s attempting to do is save our dumb-asses from ourselves. When you’ve been attempting to help humanity and to help save humanity for close to, if not over 40 years and you’re constantly negated, suppressed, oppressed, thwarted, mislead, lied to & ignored, yes, I think Michael is entitled to slam the harsh truth in their faces with a bit of attitude from time to time.
I feel so bad for Eduard and the Plejaren, I can only imagine what goes through their spiritually-advanced spirit-forms and mindsets when thinking of Earth and humanity.
We’ve your back Michael. We do what we can because we know the truth, even if it is an unpleasant one and inconvenient at that. Those who understand the importance of this case and mission will never waver. Until humanity as a whole admits, adheres and applies the Creational teachings via Eduard, the Plejaren and Creation, I say we remain (at least I will; don’t want to paint or peg any of you in the same analogy as me) that annoying turd that won’t flush down the toilet. Not the greatest analogy, I know, but you get my drift.
I’d rather die with my dignity, integrity and morality intact than to live with none. Sadly, I see that day coming soon.
All as one my brothers and sisters.
Salome,
Charles
Salome Charles!
I challenged David Brin to a discussion on his farfetched conversations with aliens even though he does not believe in flying saucers ilk.
His response was a call to arms of his followers to use the “cancel culture” term to cancel me and have my Google account shut down. Here is his response after deleting my comment.
David Brin has left a new comment on the post “From the Moon to Mars and METI”:
I have for years had a liberal policy toward ‘trolls,’ who come by to yell here… more liberal than ANY other public figure you can name. (I actually kinda miss the old ent, Treebeard, and would have welcomed perspectives from our former correspondent from Ukraine, if he had not gone around the bend.)
Anyway, regulars know I must set limits when yells become howls and yowls.
A truly awful person has harrassed me by email, enlisted friends to join in and has apparently pursued me here. (That he is a nut is forgivable. Rudeness in invading another’s space – after being asked repeatedly to leave – is a cousin to rape. Gossip-lying elsewhere is a ticket to hell.)
I have options. If he returns using a Google account, we can all (or most) pile on with abuse reports and get that G account canceled.
Here was my response to Brin’s call to arms to have my Google account canceled. He incites his followers to dogpile on anyone with a opposing comment.
Apparently Brin can’t handle th effective truth so he deletes my comment and then rails into mental gymnastics about the benefits of his neo fascist liberal bent and how his defective morality will save everyone from themselves. Your lack of seeing the world as it really is!
Oh my, it’s awfully clear now that he is severely blinded by a false sense of superiority.
These are disinfo agents…
Any serious researcher would make the effort to capture and catalogue UFO images/video themselves without bias.
Michael,
so according to DB you’re a a persistent “… rude asshole,…” for the facts and the proven truth.
Well… cheers!!! We wouldn’t have it any other way.
Love that style of “gently” obliterating posers.
Michael, thank you, and seconds away round 325 .
One thing I was taught by my mum and dad, you need to have proof to substantiate your claims, if you don’t you have no argument to prove. DB just needs to provide proof of “the aliens talking to him”, that’s all we sensible people are asking, which is easy because there’s So many cameras about, also how about recording them on a audio device. Hmmm now who might have done this before .
Next procrastinator please.
Salome.
Gordon B
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
sob sob, poor Mr Hanson.
Salome