The 1st Robin Hanson Award for Useless Esoterica Goes to…

David Brin, scientist and sci-fi author takes a dim view of the UFO topic and anyone who challenges his “expertise” and – conversations with aliens!

Scientist and author David Brin has long particpated in the discussion about so-called aliens, with frequent references (appeals to authority) to the bogus, disinformation-spewing SETI organization. Brin clearly states about himself:

“The author of this web site is part of a group which consists mostly of SETI scholars who don’t believe in UFOs.”

At least there’s something he doesn’t “believe” in…although he unfortunately believes this:

“Instead, come forth openly, as honorable visitors should. SETI personnel would be eminently qualified to make the arrangements.”

Brin is also not shy about discussing the topic, as well as making public presentations and short videos, in which to share his lack of knowledge and flawed “theories”. And, because of his association with Robin Hanson, it’s very fitting to present Brin with the first, soon to be coveted, Robin Hanson Award for Useless Esoterica.

I recently received an email from a friend who’d corresponded with Brin and suggested he discuss the UFO topic with me. He told them he’d welcome the conversation. Here’s our brief correspondence:

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MH: Hi David,

My friend suggested I get in touch with you regarding UFO evidence, etc.

I had a laugh that you said that given enough time you could “fake any UFO photo”. I guess your specialty is sci-fi, while mine is actual research.

Try this short video:

UFO Contactee Films Himself and UFO!

See these:

HICCCS Receives Requested Billy Meier UFO Evidence

Twin and Triple Black Holes Discovered 11 Years After Billy Meier Predicted!

…and feel free to get back to me if you’re ever interested in the science…without the fiction!

Sincerely,

Michael Horn

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DB: There are no humans alive who have explore concepts of the ‘alien’ from more angles than I have. UFO stuff is at the silly end. Even the ‘tic tacs’ are so blatantly human-generated plasma balls that I am stunned at all the absurd talk of ‘ships’ violating every law of physics.

There are between one and ten million times as many active cameras on Earth as there were, back in the glory days of saucer photos. Yet, despite that, the images keep getting fuzzier and fuzzier.

Any UFO blather that ignores that fact is tendentious deceit.

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MH: You’ve just encountered someone who knows infinitely more than you do.

Had you bothered to see the easily accessible evidence, you wouldn’t make such a foolish remark to me of all people.

My – courtroom quality – research is supported by astronauts, national intelligence experts, aerospace, scientific, photographic, cinematographic, special effects, legal and other experts.

You’re probably a nice guy, and a good sci-fi writer, but you wouldn’t want to debate me. I’ve long ago mopped the floor with all the top international skeptics who tried.

Stick to what you do best, my friend, this isn’t it!

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DB: Go away.

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MH: The predictable response.

You either clicked the link, or indeed have some wisdom.

Good luck.

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DB: We disagree which of us is an insane fool.

But note. You barged into my world. I asked you to go away. You did not. So we have settled one thing. You are a rude asshole, ill raised by whomever raised you.

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MH: Hey, would you mind if I published our brief correspondence?

I usually write articles about the various poseurs who I either, gently, demolish, or who run away.

Do remember that you responded to my first email, made nonsensical claims but were then unable to substantiate them.

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DB: Hell yes I mind! You will rave something or other with intent to harm me, stabbing my reputation in the back where I cannot reply.

Yes, I made a mistake answering you. I have repeated that mistake.

I am the victim and injured party here.

I will never mention your name elsewhere and hope to forget it. YOU I ask to do the same, but you won’t. And that is why the aliens talk to me and not to the likes of you.

Go… away… never come back.

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MH: Dave,

Not true. I will let your own words, and mine, speak for themselves.

And you absolutely will be able to reply.

Heck, you’ll even have the opportunity to substantiate your claims of expertise, etc.!

Inquiring minds want to know. Don’t be a whiner and a sissy, you’re not a victim, a bit of a poseur but not a victim.

I suggest that you keep reading up on the info I provided. Maybe then we could substitute a good old-fashioned discussion, debate, whatever. Feel free to ask questions, challenge, etc. I can take it.

Up to you.

Take care,

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Yes, Dave really said:

“And that is why the aliens talk to me and not to the likes of you.”

UPDATE!

Now, just after publication of this article, Dave wrote to, er, congratulate me and compliment my parents on the fine job they did raising me, their little lump of love:

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DB: Every such pathetic expression of your obsession only proves you are a deeply rude person, whose parents should be ashamed of their rotten job. I ask politely agin for you to go away. You won’t and each repeated plea for attention is actually a wee bit amusing.

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MH: I kept my word, published our correspondence – with your wild, unsubstantiated claims. And you’re free to respond, refute and rebut on the blog.

If you only knew how many poseurs I’ve busted…or who’ve busted themselves with their idiotic “I’m a scientist so I must have something important to say about a, now trendy, subject I know nothing about.”. (List available on request.)

Having suffered fools, skeptics, know-nothings for decades, I’m impossible to offend.

It’s far more telling though that trying to insult me is the best you can do.

Your arrogance, your dismissiveness of the best evidence you chose NOT to see, only confirms my wisdom in bestowing this glorious award on you.

My suggestion would be to stop dabbling and trying to profit from the now popular topic, act like a…real scientist and start researching.

Have a nice day.

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Of course, true to my word, Dave is welcome to comment, express his gratitude for the award, share his baby pictures, etc., hopefully without again gratuitously insulting my dearly departed mum and dad, who did the best they could with the daunting task that faced them.

NOTE: Quite surprisingly, Mr. Brin, who said he doesn’t believe in UFOs but says they talk to him, failed to provide the evidence I assumed he possessed to substantiate his claims.

UPDATED UPDATE!

Dave had a bit more to say, last evening:

DB: You have NOT kept your word. You asked permission, I refused and you proceded to attempt -as ankle-biters do – to make yourself larger by attacking me elsewhere.

I’ll not be drawn in. You have barged into my spaces, howled and screeched for attention and I made the mistake of giving you a little, before asking that you depart.

Again and again, I will never speak of you anywhere or act to harm you – bug that you are – and I will promptly spam you and forget you ever lived.

I ask that you do the same for me.

Refusal to do that reveals your obsession and will to harm others who have never harmed you. However you attained those traits, that is a pity.

Go. Never return. I will not think of you again.

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MH: Think of it as a bit of a professional necessity. When people credentialed in a given field wander over to pontificate on what they know nothing about, and have the temerity to claim superior knowledge to me – the actual leading authority in the field* – I push back.

While it may be a bit inconvenient for you to be called to task, to have to actually substantiate your claims, the stakes for humankind are too high to just give you – or any of the other poseurs – a pass.

That you immediately resort to ad hominem attacks instead of facts, tells me that the one who may not have had a proper, respectful upbringing is you, not me.

It would’ve served you better to avail yourself of my command of the topic, to pose questions, challenges, etc.

Your pride and avarice prevented that.

While the looneys on the right have other failings, I’ll take a wild guess that you’re politically on the left, where just that kind of emotionalized false superiority is the order of the day.

BTW, I don’t hold grudges; for me this isn’t personal. It’s simply part of what I seem to have to do to help stem the tide of b.s. from UFOlogy, the government disinformation, and other know-it-alls.

I’ve had a three-month interrogation by a – formerly skeptical – top USAF OSI/Dept. of Defense investigator/supervisor, the late US astronaut Gordon Copper was among the many experts who authenticated the case.

You’ll only end up with wet shoes and soiled pants if you want to get into a pissing contest with me.

On the other hand, the offer of conversation/education still stands.

After all of the above, Dave still hasn’t substantiated his own claim:

“And that is why the aliens talk to me and not to the likes of you.”

*So-called “experts”, credentialed people, and pretentious poseurs like Hanson, High, Brin, etc., really don’t like getting their beaks tweaked with my modest little “world’s leading authority” claim, bestowed upon me by George Noory in one of our C2C interviews. They take it far more seriously than I do…which is why it’s so useful.

The 1st Robin Hanson Award for Useless Esoterica Goes to…

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UPDATE!

UPDATED UPDATE!

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