Regarding the future of the USA
Billy Meier was first told by the Plejaren that Trump would win the election on June 30, 2016, just one month after he made these comments about the election…and the two coming civil wars.
They had even discussed the anti-democratic actions of the Democrats and others, which are now clearly ever-increasing in terms of their attempts to delegitimize the election, demonize Trump, intimidate people who disagree and those who would even dare to participate in the inauguration, etc.
The Henoch Prophecies
In following articles, the discussion will progress to an analysis of the relationship of the Henoch Prophecies to current events. We’ll discuss if Trump will succeed in forming a coalition with the Russians to eliminate the IS, or if pressures and machinations from the insane, war-mongering elements of the American government, intelligence agencies, military, religious factions, etc., will force the fulfillment of a life-extinguishing world war with Russia, China, etc.?
We will also discuss how the answers to these questions also rest in part with the active participation of willing individuals to take complete self-responsibility to study, learn and apply the core principles of the spiritual teaching.
Prophecies vs. Predictions
Prophecies are warnings of what will occur if people don’t prioritize helping to change the course of events to a more positive, life-sustaining one. Should we continue to fail to respond to them, the prophecies take the form of predictions, meaning they become certain and unalterable. As has also been repeatedly stated, no outside forces such as imaginary gods, angels, saviors, saints, etc., are coming to save us. The responsibility for the fate of humankind rests solely with us, the human beings of planet Earth.
See also:
Trump: According to Billy Meier and the Plejaren
Wow, that was a lot of reading to get through all the back and forth arguments. Let’s get back to topic, and back to the first post of this blog (which was mine): it is my wish that Trump is successful at forming a successful coalition with Russia, and softening the “hardline” stance towards Russia. 🙂
Trump may be a little hard on China, but this could soften both ways if we are able to become closer allies with Russia, with one: comes the other.
Trump is up against lots of dark forces, and Billy told me straight out that China will become the next world superpower, so this will happen either way with, or without the United States (if she collapses or not, the future still plays out), so I think it is better to embrace the future, and try to “live out” the spiritual teaching by trying to create world peace:
https://theyflyblog.com/2016/07/07/using-the-worlds-military-forces-to-establish-peace/
Hi Corey,
Do you remember when your conversation with Meier was and what else you may have discussed?
Embrace the future = trilateral coalition full partnership between United States, Russia, and China against the IS, and from there ?
Hi MH, I asked Billy if the US collapses in 2020, and China becomes the next world superpower, will China require the rest of the world to adhere to the one-child-rule, and Billy told me 2 things, that China definitely will become the next world superpower, but he doesn’t know what China’s demands will be at that time.
This was shortly after contact 544 was released publicly in the FIGU Grapevine, and my question/answer is a matter of public record of the FIGU-Forums Q & A.
Better learn Mandarin, love child.
Well that’s down right scary. Do you think China will try to control all countries or will they just stick their nose in everybody’s business like the U.S. does now?
I know right? I can say “hello” and “thank you” in Mandarin. 🙂
The left is really having a hard time coping with trumps win. I think many are losing their minds and they all seem to take any differing comment personally and pretend to be a victim. Happening a lot on figu forum on Facebook too. Either their ghosts(intelligence) or seriously delusional.
I lean left politically and I’ve been trying very hard not to fall into the trap of opposing Trump personally just because of his outrageous campaign statements. I’m trying to focus on the policies that could go well, such as detente with Russia, stopping TPP, the ending of NAFTA and humane immigration reform. I’m also prepared to oppose any policies that are harmful to Americans, such as healthcare reduction, climate change denial and crony capitalism. Politics really are like a religion in that the “my team must destroy your team” mentality prevails. I hope the Henoch Prophecies remain as prophecies and don’t become predictions because of the political hatred that has run amok in America.
Just wanted to add that Trump has a habit of changing his mind a lot…this could sometimes be a good thing or sometimes a bad thing. For instance, in 2010 he floated the idea of the death penalty for Julian Assange, whom he now seems to support, fortunately.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/kfile-trump-wikileaks/index.html
Hi Matthew if you don’t want to fall into the trap, I would suggest not watching or reading anything CNN related. They truly are the biggest liars. Wikileaks recently asked journalists why they would publish an article and found that only 7% would publish an article for the truth. 64% would publish an article to please their employer. Says a lot doesn’t it? I personally go to RT.com for news because they are usually a couple days ahead of the MSM and often print articles you will never see in the western media.
I understand how you feel because I felt like that after PM Harper lost in 2015 because of the DNC influence. I was sad for 2 days, then I got over it. Here it is over 2 months later and you are still sad? Why do Hillary supporters act like they are grieving, when no one has died?
The CNN link is a video of Trump himself, in his own words…I don’t see how that could have been faked, but I agreed with your overall point about CNN. I’m not a Hillary supporter, but my guess about why some people are grieving is because they believe all the bad things said about Trump. If all those things true, I too would be grieving, but like I said before, I’m trying to be more discerning about the the news sources I read.
Well said Matthew. I couldn’t agree with you more.
I commend everyone on their relatively good sense of decorum, harsh “critiques” notwithstanding. I think you are right about limiting the continuance of this “narrative”. I, personally, was confused by the seeming mix of professed concern and sympathy for “worthy causes/ social justice”, reactionary and often contradictory perspectives, and just the overall “divide and conquer”/ agent provocateur vibe to it all. what of the Global Currency Reset? How is that a factor in assessing reality? what about the Global Debt Facility that is holding humanity’s gold for it’s benefit and evolution and not solely for the elites? How have the various entities (including within the u.s.) tried, unsuccessfully, to steal the assets held for humanity? Who is Karen Hudes? How is she helping humanity access this facility? How is she trying to help, via the coalition for the rule of law, to end state capture and a return to the 1789 constitution instead of the second secret one foisted on the citizenry in 1781? Why is it now considered a corporation? Why is the u.s. in interregnum? what the hell is interregnum? many of the motivations for the events that we are witnessing may be better clarified if one researches these topics and I encourage that everyone check it out so we can know what the hell the other one is talking about, discern what the attempted distractions may be, and truly use forceless force to overcome the threats to our future survival. because a peaceful transition , via the global debt facility/global currency reset, is preferable to world war, in my opinion. also, billy and ptah’s comments take on further clarity and significance when compared with the revealed, corroborated, and well-documented chronology of the evidence that can be found on the above topics, again, in my opinion. the forces that are aligned against the truth of reality that exits and which they do not wish us to see seems to be intensifying the effort to confuse and divide along any lines possible. this is an attempt to distract from reality. much is still to be done. peace and best wishes to all.
antonio
Hi Antonio when you find out George Soros funds Black Lives Matter and move on dot org and you know it’s in Soros best interest to foment civil unrest, you will have your answer as to why the divisive nature.
Do you have a link or source about George Soros funding BLM? I’ve heard about moveon.org, but not BLM.
http://politicaloutcast.com/soros-funding-ferguson-black-lives-matter-protests/
https://destee.com/threads/black-lives-matter-funded-by-george-soros.83574/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/01/19/report-george-soros-money-behind-ftp-and-black-lives-matter-agitationprotests/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXAIwCO8lXo
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/19/no-george-soros-didn-t-give-33-million-to-blacklivesmatter.html
http://yournewswire.com/black-lives-matter-produced-by-george-soros/
https://theafricanspear.com/2015/08/13/george-soros-funds-black-lives-matters-movement/
http://blackcommunitynews.com/the-real-power-and-purpose-behind-black-lives-matter-movement/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html
thanks Sheila, excellent group of articles. just the tip of the iceberg, i’m sorry to say. and there are lots of them on the seas these days. peace
Excellent Interview Michael & Bob, keep up the great work!
Here’s evidence that Obama still has some decency left in him:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/17/510307055/president-obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-prison-sentence
hi Sheila, thanks for the reply. I (and many others) did know about the stories coming out about soros on not just the two organizations that you mentioned but also others throughout the globe. he, however more visible he may be in comparison to others, is still only one person. he still answers to others. the attempts at divisiveness are occurring globally and, in my opinion, a concerted well-orchestrated attempt to achieve the destruction of all fiat currencies everywhere. the “group” that directs those (like soros) that are visible to the public and can be the “object of the finger-pointing” wishes to remain hidden. that is one of their top concerns, and has been historically, in whatever form this group visibly took in the past (e.g.-the dutch east india company) Their preferred method of gaining control over the laws and government of sovereign countries has been to indebt them and then demand a change to those laws for their own private benefit. This is how they have imposed “state capture” on many countries, it would appear. the end result, the grandest of all state captures would be the entire world itself- in their minds. problem is, the secret is out and they are being outed left and right. Christine lagarde,jim kim, merckel, Obama, Hillary, trump, many other highly visible political actors, everywhere, have been outed. members of congress, the joint chiefs, governors, senators, judges, etc, are being outed. many are just simply outing themselves by their silence in the face of assertions made about them publicly. many other documented examples exist to show the proofs behind these assertions. still though, the examples above do not disclose the identity of the true core group (147 companies that control 40% of the assets and 60% of the revenue of more than 43,000 companies in the financial/capital markets as identified by three mathematicians from eth university zurich) and their blatant attempts at further control in detail. that is why I again respectfully ask that you look at the documentation provided on ms. hudes’ website, factor in that information with many of the things that all of you have written about here and see if certain things become clearer. we are all in this together. there are many correlations to the data provided so generously by mr. meier , ptaah, quetzal, semjase, et al., so please review the material. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. well wishes and peace to all.
antonio
Hi Antonio, it’s too bad Karen Hudes doesn’t have more of a voice in the world as she has a lot of good information. Thank you.
The fact that musicians and actors distance themselves from him shouldn’t reflect negatively on them , it’s the nature of the beast , just like the nature of the beast that is our president is to tie something down and have his way with total control. It’s the art of the takedown . Real estate , jungles , forests , ice caps , etc. Two different approaches . One type attracts people to creativity and good vibes , and the other attracts the kind of people who are unfair to to others who are different . I hold the unpopular opinion because it’s the nature of this beast . I will not go quietly I will not lie down .
Actually I’m glad it reflects badly on musicians and actors because it shows how out of touch with reality they are. Do you think it’s better that these tards are calling for marshall law? Like I told Rosie, when her kids ask her why there are soldiers on the street she can tell them that it was all her doing. Hopefully her children won’t get shot in the back because they didn’t understand that when the soldiers were yelling stop, it meant them. Careful what you wish for.
Did Billy said Trump is lesser of two evils.
That doesn’t make Trump a good person. You guys also have to remember him contradicted himself 1000 times in policy issues. For instance, he said he’d like to kill all family of terrorist, carpet bomb the middle east, and use nuclear weapon on Iran…. next thing you know the other day he said we have to pull our troop out, no more wars and rebuild roads and bridges. He flip and flop ALL OF HIS MAJOR ISSUES. Don’t expect he will do much in regards to TPP and trade as he and his wealthy buddies will lose money….that’s the last thing they wanted to do.
Trump is a pathological liar and narcissistic person.
And yes, Clinton is a corrupt psychopathic war-hawk. I think Trump is indeed “better”….but seems like 2020 will be the moment.
Ptaah did specifically say, “However, about that I must also say that he is otherwise well-meaning and not bad, etc.” and “As far as the election campaign speeches by Trump are concerned, these are, first of all, just campaign speeches, which must not be understood as effective in their entire form, etc.”
Time will tell of course.
As Ptaah, Quetzal, say all these politicians, religious leaders,corporations, militaries, deep black ops are ALL a bunch of CRUMS and I totally agree with all these people from the Plejaren Federation etc! As of Friday January 20th 2017 I`m going to AVOID watching this stupid rotten inauguration allk together and find something else to do other than watch this stupid fake charade!
Well, I’m not it’s fully acceptable in my opinion to begin to come to a conclusion on Trump leadership…based on the simple fact…His presidency hasn’t started in other words massive assumptions/religious beliefs are being formulated. On the other hand it’s unpredictable at this point. One majority concern is to the extent the plejarens discussed how the democrats will attempt to pubesintely provoke agression of relitation(worthless values).
“Trump has said he intends to start loading up Guantanamo with new war detainees — “bad dudes,” in his words.”
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510448989/trump-inherits-guantanamos-remaining-detainees
Let’s hope this is yet another of Trump’s campaign promises that will be changed for the better…Obama certainly was unable to follow through on this as well.