Longtime UFO truth denier failed to substantiate defamatory attacks when challenged, defaults to admitting he lied
Recently, someone familiar with the Billy Meier contacts wrote about their brief correspondence with John Greenewald:
“This gentleman below sent a letter requesting NASA to provide him a list of ‘All emails sent to/from, bcc’d or cc’d, NASA Science Associate Administrator Thomas ZurbuchenIt containing the keywords ‘Unidentified Aerial, and/or unidentified flying, and/or UAP, and/or UFO, and/or unidentified spacecraft, and/or unidentified aircraft’.
“Since he received documentation of no value I send him the blog info.
“His response was:
‘Hello and thank you for sending.
‘I can tell you the site you linked to, Michael Horn, is definitely not someone to trust when it comes to information. He has quite a bit of false and hoaxed information on his site about Billy Meier etc. which Is something that, in my opinion, should be steered clear of.'”
I challenged Greenewald to substantiate his defamatory attacks and made clear to him:
“Since it is your integrity that is in question, failing to substantiate your claims will be announced as an admission of them being descriptive of your own failings and dishonesty.”
Incapable of doing so, with deafening silence, cowardly Greenewald defaulted, a self-admitted defamer and liar.
The Road to Truth
The self-described “experts” in UFOlogy, such as Greenewald, seethe with envy and wallow in incompetence, faced with the insurmountable task of providing anything of significance comparable to Billy Meier’s independently authenticated physical and informational evidence.
Without any actual research and investigative experience, in their rush for recognition and profit, they ignored and disdained the reality of an actual, historically unprecedented UFO contact case, already ongoing for many decades.
For Greenewald, his ambitions and arrogance have been duly rewarded by the governmental authorities he courted for approval. He’s the proud owner of the Black Vault, a bloated behemoth of a repository for more useless, irrelevant, truth-distracting, government-supplied, er, tissue paper.
Such are the consequences of being a sycophant who never learned to actually think for himself because he found the road to truth too roughly paved for his lofty aspirations and superficial abilities.
Why Does It Matter?
Someday, this may actually register with people:
The confirmed existence of, and contact with, advanced, space-traveling extraterrestrials would be the most important discovery in all of science and human history.
The fact that such face-to-face contacts have been ongoing – for over 80 years – and continue to be denied, ignored, censored and suppressed by people who claimed to be searching for evidence, is the most shameful scandal, which is already, and will continue to be, the most costly one to all humankind.
John Greenewald is hardly alone in keeping the deceit going. One of the most cynical examples of the fraud that has developed around this topic is SETI, which raise multi-millions of dollars a year to not find what they claim to search for and even pay disinformation-and-denial-spreading shills like Seth Shostak to keep the truth at bay.
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THE PROBLEM is not whether Billy contact is real or not. The problem is how truly real it is. Since there’s much misinformation, manipulation and additions to the original messages and the circumstances around. What I mean is, Billy Meier contacts are too contaminated with inventions, fantasies, inconsistencies and the like. We need to work a lot to get the pure gold among the slag.
I’d say the problem is that you’re admitting to not being very knowledgeable, discerning, and capable of thinking for yourself. Or perhaps willing to put in the necessary effort.
Your statement itself is “too contaminated with inventions, fantasies, inconsistencies”. Have you bothered to read Meier’s books?
I also suggest you read Charles’ reply to Walt below.
Do you have some examples of the inventions, fantasies and inconsistencies?
If you stick to sites that are FIGU affiliated or approved by FIGU, you shouldn’t have any issues. The FIGU approved sites are not posting fantasies, inventions and inconsistencies. They primarily post news about the case and stick to the contact reports, bulletins and other verified information. The most notable disinformation is coming from sites that spout about the Galactic Federation, Pleiadian Mission, Starseeds, etc.
I have read up to CR 150 so far and although there are a few inconsistencies it really just feels like the kind of perceived inconsistencies that come up when learning something new. Then when you go back and re-read after getting more familiar, you recognize that there was just a nuance that you weren’t picking up the first time that only seemed like a contradiction but wasn’t. This happens to me all the time when I learn new material. You have to read the material compellingly and with an open mind over a long period of time before throwing out statements that it’s fraud or BS. One thing I can say is that so far the Meier material feels legit not just because of the truths that are said but how unpopular these truths are. There’s nothing at all appealing or ego-stroking about it. I just read in a CR that people’s beloved indoor pets, cats and dogs, are a major source of disease and illness in humans. For me I always suspected that so it rings true to me. There’s so many other things that are said which ring true for me, even though I don’t fully understand a lot of them yet. There are things that feel true even though you can’t convey why exactly and things that feel untrue even though you can’t convey why either. I’m giving the material a fair shake and stringently keeping track of predictions that I can prove have come true, since that definitely falls outside of what anyone from this planet can do.
I like the fact that the Meier material is by conventional standards a dry read that doesn’t appeal to personality of cult or suck you in with flamboyant writing style. It just gives pure content (just like Ralph Nader, who is much more informative and useful to hear than say Russell Brand even though they are on the same side politically). And also there’s so much of the Meier material, a tremendous amount of information on many, many topics. Surely you can find some value in it.
I like the fact that you constructed the verbiage, “I like the fact that the Meier material is by conventional standards a dry read that doesn’t appeal to personality of cult or suck you in with flamboyant writing style. It just gives pure content . . .”
Ufologists remind me of the Pharisees in the Talmud Jmmanuel
Absolutely completely agree. Theres always a small group of power hungry egomaniacs working against the prophet . If it doesnt come from their mouths, they refuse to even give it an honest looking into.
Clif High in his podcast World War WEF @27:21 mark stated the word “Fa Ro” never existed in the Egyptian culture as they used the word “King”. Hence claims in the Bible stating the Jews were slaves of the “Fa Ro” are false. So Clif says “the Bible is full of shit if they say these people were slaves in Egypt of the Pharaohs. That word is only in the Yemeni language up into Judea.”
The Mr Spock character in the Star Trek TV show is interesting. His Vulcan race was guided by logic, not emotion, which obviously clashed with his human crew members. The P’s seem to operate in a similar way, given the guidance to shut down civilization in order to stop the spread of Covid. The CCP, from whatever motivation, did just that, shutting down cities and imprisoning their citizens. As the protests in China show, people have had enough. Covid or not, they want their lives back. The reference Phil Marshall made about our pets carrying disease as mentioned in a CR is apropos as, just like the protesters, humans love their pets and don’t care about the dangers. Illogical perhaps, but human. The point is emotion is part of being human and something the P’s seem to have repressed. As we are both human I think we’re going to have to meet in the middle, more emotion for Plearans and more logic for humans. Obviously neither one of us has all the answers. It’s all still a work in progress. In fact, didn’t Ptaah or someone once make a reference to being afraid to allow emotion back into their lives as being too dangerous?
The Plejaren are much better suited to deal with life as they use logic when making decisions rather than using out of control emotions. On the other hand, one could say that their actions are also based on love, peace, freedom and harmony. They care very much about their fellow human beings throughout the Universe. It shows in their efforts to help other civilizations. Earth humans are out of control emotionally and need to learn self-control and self-responsibility. We’ve had about 200 years of peace in thousands of years. I’d say that the earth humans operate almost entirely on emotion instead of logic. The Plejaren track record of over 50,000 years of peace speaks for itself.
Don
t forget Spock is half human on his mothers side. “Go Figure.”The Vulcans also had emotions. They were a fictional humanoid race who learned how to use logic over emotion.
It’s a matter of learning how to control your emotions so they don’t control you. However, this a conversation for Berk’s article.
https://theyflyblog.com/2022/11/human-lifeforms-and-civilizations-in-the-known-universe-2/