Conveying the truth about a possible break in the very cycle of life
I’ve met more than a few people who issue essentially the same challenge, “Well, you show me some prediction that Billy Meier already made about what’s going to happen in the future and maybe then I’ll take it seriously.”
While there is no shortage of specific examples of already corroborated, prophetically accurate information, which are also constantly added to on this blog, the challenge is more a reflection on the self-absorbed, self-important, state of mind of people who have allowed themselves to slip into various religious, political and/or trendy delusions and for whom life has essentially become an entertainment seeking exercise.
Phantasmagoria
As Meier already also predicted, in 1958, they are people seduced by phantasmagoria whose “sense of reality disappears and they can no longer distinguish between reality and fiction”. Ironically, many of them actually consider themselves to be hardcore realists, skeptics, etc.
Conveying the Truth
The breakdown of the global conveyor belt is no fiction.
They all pointed out that, once again, Billy Meier’s information, this time from Contact 544, is specific and painfully prophetically accurate:
This is also the contact in which Meier discusses the probable breakdown of the US, by 2020, which he was first advised about in 1975. We may wish to also refer to his first warnings, in 1981 and 1987, about the two coming civil wars. While it’s said that hindsight is 20/20 vision, this vision of 2020 should offer foresight sufficient to awaken at least some people out of their stupor.
Problem-Solution
For those who still don’t know, Billy Meier was also the first person to warn of unnatural, manmade climate and climbing global warming, among many other things, in the 1950s*. For decades his warnings have been available but largely unheeded.
As was recently also pointed out**, the study of the spiritual teaching is the essential remedy to our very threatened future survival. For those who wish to delve even deeper, this is a very good time to acquire The Spiritual Teaching in Everyday Life, which contains also the ultimate how-to book on thinking, The Might of the Thoughts.
See also:
To Understand What Is Already Happening…and Yet to Come
*Billy Meier’s Environmental Warnings
**The Spiritual Teaching: The Reason for the Billy Meier UFO Contacts
Thanks to Nick Majchrzak.
How about the value of pi or 3.14blah blah blah . An imperfect number . Or the usage of the tau a perfect numeric . Minute calculations and we are just generalizing .
Take E=Mc2 or squared . Their is no solid matter . A sub atomic partical orbits and vibrates . The plastic on the cell phone you use all so often is not contained in solid plastic , aluminum or glass . So , what are you saying Daniel ?
Illusion is the constant . Stupidity is guaranteed .
We choose our truth by what difference it will make in practice.
The day one of those examples you gave stops being useful is the day we will replace it with some other one.
I second that question.
If what David Scott has said was not useful, then we wouldn’t be using those conclusions would we? If the imperfect pi 3.14 was not practical it would have already been revised, and apparently it has been according to what he is saying.
If and when E=Mc2 could possibly become useful at some future time within a practical framework and it does not make that necessary practical difference then it will also be revised.
If apples did not fall from trees in Canada, US, UK, the exact same way that apples fell from trees in Australia and New Zealand, then we would not have the commonly shared theory that gravitation exerts a force causing objects to fall, we would have revised that theory already.
If religion did not fulfil or contain some necessary facet or features in our lives and society (community, perspective, leadership), then we would not still have it, we would have revised or abandoned it already, and organised religion has evolved significantly in line with the progress that we have all made together. Most of us do ignore it already, one of the main reasons organised religion follows us into the 3rd millennium is for reasons of tax, money (livelihood), and for the various vestiges within its evolution, its turned into an uncontrollable machine that forms something necessary apparently for any community, something capitalism alone is unable to provide. The only thing that will cause an all out revolution in this particular case is a verifiable referenceable fact that extraterrestrials exists and are able to visit as and when they please.
But even then we will still need: leaders, community, perspective and all those other things that cannot directly come about through capitalism alone.
Just because “we” carried religious principles along with us on our journey does not necessarily grant those principles any innate value. And as far as “Pi” and theories of relativity are concerned, we must never forget that these issues have been resolved long ago by others, they are no longer puzzles, regardless of whether we have solved them or not. It’s probably not very productive to discuss advanced physical mechanics without the appropriate knowledge to do so. This will come in due time. Technology is wonderful for us, but it will never open the secrets of the Spirit, not entirely anyway.
Yes that is evidently exactly what I am saying, unless you can personally word something or do something in a better way, presenting it to every single possible important human, then yes, that is exactly as it is, you answered the mystery for yourself. You dont make a fuss about something, no one will ever know, we will never reach a new commonly accepted agreement, clear enough for you?
Mar 28, 2015: The chief of the Fukushima nuclear power station has admitted that the technology needed to decommission three melted-down reactors does not exist, and he has no idea how it will be developed [and] conceded that the stated goal of decommissioning the plant by 2051 may be impossible without a giant technological leap… [Tepco] continues to be embarrassed by leaks of radiation into the sea… Recent scans of one revealed the worst possible result: all the nuclear fuel that was in the reactor’s furnace has melted and dripped down into the concrete outer containment vessel… The alternative would be to seal the entire complex in a giant sarcophagus like the one covering Chernobyl — but it would have to extend underground to stop contaminated groundwater reaching the sea
http://enenews.com/times-worst-possible-result-revealed-fukushima-plant-chief-centuries-pass-before-humans-invent-deal-molten-fuel-videos
Jameson, When the Fulkishima Power Station leaked and melted radiation back on March11, 2011 I heard on the news about covering all four nuclear power plant with a concrete dome shell over the plant to prevent any more radiation from leaking into the air and ground. I just don`t know how effective that idea would be but they said on the news back then that it would take 500 years before all this radiation would completely disapate. The Chernoble idea sounds interesting too. ” We NEED to do something to stop the radiation from leaking into and on the planet etc.”
Jameson, I heard back in March 2011 on the news that there was talk of putting a concrete dome over Fulkshima to contain the radiation leak and prevent the radiation from spreading since Fulkshima will leak for another 500 years.before it disappears. “We NEED to find some way to stop the radiation one way or another. Insisdently there was anotheroil spill in the Gulf of Mexico toiday on the news. I don`t eat fish anymore because you don`t know where the fish is coming from to say nothing of the GMO rats whio think GMOs are safe. Who can trust theses corporations and the government who DON`T care if we live or die. One way or another they`ll find away to kill us all off by not letting people chose a more healthy way of living longer the way the people from Erra do. Unless our food produce is labeled properly why bother to buy such unhealthy foods that are contaminated with GMOs, oil slicks from the Gulf of Mexico,fish from the Pacific Ocean from radiation poison fro Flkishma, etc,etc,etc.
I tought this one comes on topic, a new email from the President, (just when I was coming out of my previous shock).
No one can come to our rescue when it breaks, but putting out efforts for prevention comes really handy. Please see next copy and paste of his message.
Today, the United States, together with our allies and partners, reached a historic understanding with Iran.
If fully implemented, this framework will prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, making our nation, our allies, and our world safer.
For decades, Iran has been advancing its nuclear program. When I took office, Iran was operating thousands of centrifuges — which can produce the materials for a nuclear bomb — and was concealing a secret nuclear facility. I made it clear that the United States was prepared to find a diplomatic resolution, if Iran came to the table in a serious way.
But that didn’t happen.
So we rallied the world to impose the toughest sanctions in history, profoundly impacting Iran’s economy. Sanctions couldn’t stop Iran’s nuclear program on their own, but they helped bring Iran to the negotiating table.
And after many months of tough and principled diplomacy, the United States — joined by the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the European Union — achieved the framework for a deal that will cut off every pathway Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.
I want you to understand exactly what this deal entails:
First, it stops Iran from pursuing a bomb using plutonium, because Iran will not develop weapons-grade plutonium. The core of its reactor at Arak will be dismantled and replaced. The spent fuel from that facility will be shipped out of Iran for the life of the reactor. Iran will not build a new heavy-water reactor. And Iran will never reprocess fuel from its existing reactors.
Second, it shuts down Iran’s path to a bomb using enriched uranium.Iran has agreed to reduce its installed centrifuges by two-thirds. It will no longer enrich uranium at its Fordow facility, and it will not enrich uranium with its advanced centrifuges for at least the next 10 years. And the vast majority of its stockpile of enriched uranium will be neutralized.
Third, it provides the best possible defense against Iran’s ability to pursue a nuclear weapon in secret. Iran has agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history. International inspectors will have unprecedented access not only to Iranian nuclear facilities, but to the entire supply chain that supports Iran’s nuclear program — from uranium mills that provide the raw materials, to the centrifuge production and storage facilities that support the program.
If Iran cheats, the world will know.
In return for Iran’s actions, the international community has agreed to provide Iran with relief from certain sanctions — our own sanctions, and international sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council. This relief will be tied to the steps Iran takes to adhere to the deal. And if Iran violates the deal, sanctions can be snapped back into place. Meanwhile, other American sanctions on Iran — for its support of terrorism, its human rights abuses, and its ballistic missile program — will be fully enforced.
Now, our work is not yet done. Negotiators will continue to work through the details of how this framework will be fully implemented, and those details matter. And let me be clear: If Iran backslides, and the verification and inspection mechanisms don’t meet the specifications of our nuclear and security experts, there will be no deal.
But if we can get this done, and Iran follows through on the framework that our negotiators agreed to, we will be able to peacefully resolve one of the gravest threats to the security of our nation, our allies, and the world.
Learn more about today’s historic deal and how it will make the United States, our allies, and our world safer:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/Iran-deal
Thank you,
President Barack Obama
Incredible Silvana, from the man himself, I dont want to say too much about that because we’re at the end of the day adults, well done for explaining something worth reading by the president and for him to respond at length and a good response too.
I basically support the position btw.
What I wanted to say was about the nuclear weapon itself, I mean just some general thoughts I had about it, is it not possible that the act of making a fuss out of it and by successive governments, becomes a greater problem than the end result itself, which at the end of the day, ends up sitting in a silo for 40 years anyway, becoming more of a political device more than anything else.
But by making a fuss out of it, it becomes more a central problem and focus. Potentially I mean, and as a consideration of ideas I mean.
However, I still support the president in the way he is dealing with the situation.
Sheila wrote: “How would you know that Fence sitter?”
I love that name! Henceforth I shall be known as “Fence sitter”.
In answer to your question, I really have no idea. But I would be willing to bet you $10 that within any reasonable length of time we won’t see a NYT article stating they found native fossils on Mars…
Well Moshe considering that you were the one who called yourself a fence sitter, I’m not the least surprised that you like that name.
Thanks for the opinion though. I personally am not a gambler so I won’t accept your bet. I only want the truth, and the truth cannot be gambled with. The Sirians destroyed all evidence of the crime, which doesn’t mean that fossils would be included in the evidence. Why would I wait for the NYT to tell me anything? One only has to look at the Mars pictures to see things for oneself. What do you think about that recent “inverted tube” which made me laugh as I’ve been wondering what’s been stopping NASA from coming clean with the evidence of all these tubes. What do you think about the evidence of terra-forming? Do you find it odd that almost every single “meteor crater” is perfectly round when we know that doesn’t even happen on earth, but somehow that happened on Mars??? I’ve never been one to sit back and wait for someone to tell me what’s true. I have eyes and am quite capable of seeing but I never rely on NASA to tell me what I am seeing. For example based on sunlight and shadows you can tell which “meteor craters” are above ground and which ones are below ground. If I believed NASAs little blurb about each one, I would probably be as confused as you.
As with all fence sitters, the longer you sit, the more static are your thoughts. Your arse starts getting sore from having sat there so long and one must really watch out and not get caught in the barb wire. Can I call you sore arse sitter instead?
Sheila wrote: “Thanks for your opinion though.”
You’re welcome! Thanks for yours. Excellent points.
Or perhaps Fence squatter?
A read of the Meier Contact Reports makes no mention of the electrical/(and corresponging electro-magnetic) nature of the Cosmos – the effects of which are responsible for driving our weather including ocean currents. Whether man is responsible for the warming of the oceans (thermal equivalent to 2 billion hiroshima bombs) remains questionable as what is required is complete data of energy transfer as the Earth moves with the Solar System through space constantly conserving the solar capacitor while the Global Warming crowd pushes for more taxation. Make a habit to listen to James McCanney (http://www.jmccsci.com/WeeklyRadioShowArchivesSubPage.HTM) for more insight into Earth and Space weather resulting from the ever changing electrical conditions in space.
Hi, Mr. Horn! I would very appreciate if you could give me answers to a few questions of mine; of course if You know the answers (if maybe Billy ever told You sonwething about that). Namelly, when “curtains are going to fall” on this world during the next few decades: What happens with us and all the rest of the spirits of all life forms which (used to) form spirit of the planet Earth? Do we all get “recycled” in some way and have to start our evolution from the baginning, in some other cycle, or do we all get reincarnated on some other planet which can sustain life, some planet similar to the planet Earth, for futher development of our conciousness? If the latter is the case; are we all going to get reincarnated on the same planet or on different planets. If we are going to get reincarnated on different planets; what is the (natural) law, who is going to reincarnate where, or is it random? See, I just can not see, from the terrible situations this world is in, how this world is going to awoid (multiple choice) seldestruction; so I am interested what is the deal when it “ends”. I know these questions are kinda not appropriate; but I am wandering about these question already for years and I would like to finally know the answers before it “ends”. I just can not see how we could still awoid our selfdestruction. I have learned tons of stuff from BEAM and You during the last few years, and found answers on almost all I have ever wondered about; but these are the last few questions of mine that I have not found the answers on, yet. I also have a few other question left; if this world makes is till Apophis, does anybody have a chance to survive Apophis touchdown, or it is going to cause all life on this planet to extinct? What happens then; are maybe Pleyarans or some other extraterrestrials going to restart (human) life on this planet, when the conditions become appropriate after a few millenniums? Thank You for taking Your time and for Your answers!!
Hi Anthony,
We are reincarnated on the planet that we die on. Most likely this one will still be around for a while, despite all the damage done to it. The bad news is that we get to come back to the mess that humanity has made.
To MH, You just mentioned that when we reincarnate on this planet with the mess we have left behind, how and what are we going to do with this mess we left behind? Clean up our own mess to make this world better or just continue to make more of a mess? I prefer the former that is IF we ever learn to evolve from our own past experience and become wiser and more spiritual. Point of fact is half of this world lives in such sub-human conditions Africa,Asia,South America, etc,the living standards, education,malnutrition, no houses,food, medicine,scince etc,theses people don`t even know that there is life elsewhere in the cosmos etc,to say nothing of reincarnation,what about rebuteting and fixing up this world now,why wait for a nuclear war whe we can educate and fix this world now?
Terry,
We certainly are free to become self-responsible…at any moment! There’s nothing that says that we have to continue to be clueless. Now that we know some of the essentials of the spiritual teaching, we don’t have to wait for any time, or anyone’s permission, to live them.
In my own opinion, Terry, we all have a long way to go and a lot to learn before many of us are really prepared to go out into the world to instruct others about how to rework their life. How many of us can say we have even aligned ourselves with the creational laws and recommendations to the full extent that it requires to set a truly positive example? Even the core group members make mistakes there, and they are where the most truth-learning happens.
I learned the hard way that I can do a lot more harm than good by trying to force others to recognize the truth when they’re not prepared to, and I’m not prepared to portion it out properly and extensively like it requires. But look around, there are lots of people that could benefit from having a “silent hero” championing for them without actually going in to try and fix the whole mess. We can do things here and there to mitigate suffering of others, and that is worthwhile in itself, in my opinion.
Theres a little piece of information in there a little fragment of detail. We have no choice but to align ourselves with the creative natural laws. Key word being ‘laws’, we would struggle even existing apparently. Look Tyler the meaning of that is an ‘acknowledgement’, a full acknowledgement and exhaustive investigative study, to the point of ‘knowing’ – just as when any professional knows his trade in any economic industry – humanity itself must know their place our place as human beings in the universe (not getting that info from religious belief structures, popes, but from the naturally occurring laws that apparently exist in the universe already, before we even arrived). Only then can we steer toward the recommendable humanity styles that facilitate a wonderful pleasant trail into the future.
But there are two things once you’ve got that far in your ideas. The genetic legacy does not allow us to live comfortably within the recommendations, but only through a very tough life challenge. And the monster that we’ve created from the elementary principles of trade, causes all these afflictions: overpopulation, injustices embedded into the principle of nations which vary in size accordingly depending on the size of the central location of trade, in other words the tiny well managed countries are going to boom much better than large ones, and those on the edges of these larger countries are going to be in receipt of a horrendous discharge of perpetual injustices. – This by the way is how anyone could justify a collapse of the soviet union, civil war in north america, or chinas century, or any forecasts, by way of the man-made laws. Those of a greater evolution, in these designated urban centres, therefore are going to work so hard in a wrong way through out and during every life that they are noticeably going to deteriorate in various ways, and the ‘bad time’ therefore is associated with an increase in population quantity in line with all these various factors.
Much of this future will unfortunately be out of your and my hands in the physical sense, not all though. Humans are power hungry and they will stop at nothing to attain their goals. This is simple fact, not fear mongering, which is why it is incumbent upon us to strive to change ourselves first. Apparently, this has a far reaching effect on the entire planet than we realize simply by the virtue of doing so. What the physical might-greedy Humans fail to realize is that they themselves bring a backlash of sorts upon themselves. They will see this eventually, but it is almost always too late in almost every circumstance. There is still a certain secrecy that surrounds many things here which is why we often suffer in our minds. It is still unclear to me and most of us here why certain memories and knowledge are not set free yet. There has been many explanations given for this, but I have yet to see any clear and concise reasoning surrounding these explanations. Having said that though, I am still simply an Earth Human with limited knowledge, notwithstanding my own personal experiences. Even though material existence is usually quite mundane and hurtful, it also seems to encompass a certain mystery or unseen secret within it. Many things could change.
Hello Michael,
Anthony brings up a very interesting point.
I have always wondered, what will happen to the 23 billion spirit forms from the planet Akart, which suffered a failure of its own atmosphere?
What if the unthinkable happened on Earth, and the same happened here? Or if we had a devastating global war, and we all suffered the same fate as Malona?
Would we be reincarnated in far-off star systems at random, or would we be allocated according to our individual spiritual development?
Thank you
Hi Joseph,
There is information that explains how the spirits would “migrate” to a suitable world where they could reincarnate into a population of relatively equal development to the one they formerly had. This can take a very long, or short, time depending on various factors.
I’ve been curious about this myself. I assumed we remained in that rest period for eons until a suitable planet formed at a close enough distance. Having a little trouble finding the info, though. Was it in the contact reports or a Q&A?
I’m not sure. Search for it on my site and those linked from it.
Hey Jason, Michael is explaining it best. But to offer an extra detail; these spirit forms can wait in the fine-material for millions, hundreds of millions of years, for these necessary conditions to be met again to continue their evolution to be met on either the planet again, or another planet if in the case of malona as you say, its been destroyed. Michael is right, it is explained so incredibly well in the contact reports and books, much better than we can explain.
If I may add some extra words, I know you asked MH specifically but if it helps.
Teach a man to fish right? – Every narrative has to have some logical progression, just like history/histories, so what you say about plejaren helping at some future time, then that is logical given the current climax of historical events. But its this way Anthony: Money, eventually will lead to a very quiet relaxed world, as you say, without wisdom, but still quiet and relaxed, it is at this later time that the plejaren may re-examine the situation – well apparently they have already done that apparently according to the future data they collected about themselves. You already know I think Anthony, and your just a normally sane man apparently, so you already know exactly what is going to happen if and when you see it honestly.
Its only through a telepathic suggestion, or a device that incurs some motivational ideas, its never going to be in person apparently. Oh and anthony, about that, its been going on in one form or another on and off for 12 thousand years by the way. So yes and yes again to your question, if you develop a consciousness of the situation you’ll be able to look deeply into it.
All the info is in the contacts in one way or another. One man deciphers the info one way another man another way. Even german language would be poor way to deliver the future, the best way would be with a massive cluster of chronological symbols using a special absolute language.
Religion combined with consumerism has formed what I describe as “the barren time”, where everyone will have free energy and everything needed available, but they wont have real knowledge, so basically have nothing, that is debatable by the way, some men say its the other way, I am quite content with that we’ve been run off our feet for hundreds of years and haven’t achieved anything meaningful yet however. But anyway, this will go on for many hundreds of years, we’ll get bored and colonise other worlds. And much much later, as and when things are more and more stable, during this peaceful relaxed time as I said (where we have everything apart from real knowledge) then later we will develop real knowledge, after the new language, after the space travel, the new energy technologies, everyone has sorted themselves out properly, sea levels have rised, etc. Any tsunami is only ever a splash, any asteroid is only ever a piff, in these bigger time scales were talking about.
This is incidentally why BEAM has given knowledge now, before the event, as I was saying about any narrative has a logical progression of events. Cause effect etc.
DanIel, ” there IS no wisdom in money” ! The people ion Erra have learned to work for only two hours a day. then they go home to work on their gardens and meditate. After that everything is FREE,NO money. Then the people on Erra can do what ever they want to do,study a language,take up the arts,do research,the list goes on and on but they MUST learn to contribute to their society and share the fruits of their bounty and gifts with others on Erra. “”I only wish this world would learn to do the same”! Doesn`t seem likely on Earth I “think it`s time for these Earth people to THINK outside of this little fishbowl of a box called Earth else we`ll all perish and destroy ourselves one way or another”!
Im glad you reached the conclusion I presented there quickly there. – Money floods the world with goods necessar, does not provide wisdom (as you say) so without it (as you say), it then becomes very quiet and peaceful.
Its a polite way of saying idiots with high technology. Humans that have weakened softened individuals too quickly in their evolution.
Thank You for Your answert, Mr. Horn! But lets suppose that this planet would get destroyed to the level that it can not sustain life anymore; what would happen then, where would our evolution continue? Lets say that this planet would go on for the full 380 million yeras, before our sun starts to die; where would evolution of those people and other life forms from the planet Earth, who would still live on the planet Earth at that time and then all die, continue afterwards? And can anyone survive when Apophis hits our planet on April 13th 2036? For how long is Billy still to “go on”; when Pleyarans told him he is going to die? Is this his last mission? Thank You!
I have to wonder about the quality of questions being asked here. Guys, please consider, MH is just one man – how can he answer every question and possess every knowledge the same as Billy? Unless MH you were hiding being a true prophet, then you REALLY understand modesty.
But especially when it’s your minds that are filling with anxieties but you’re not doing anything to remedy that on your own – don’t you think it might be time to expand your search for answers to other places, like the forums as just one place to look?
It’s nice to rely on each other but if you don’t at least try to do it on your own, you won’t get to feel purposeful because you won’t be making any questions that really personally matter to you when your individual time comes for that.
Apophis at 350 meters in diameter or whatever it is, would only be the equivalent of around say 100,000 nuclear bombs going off all at the same time, something like the force of a mid-to-large volcano basically, not a super massive volcano just a large one. The situation only really gets dicey if it hits a body of water. But anyway, the very worst we’re looking at is say one of the how ever many continents there are worldwide being completely wiped from future history, maybe a nasty dust cloud that lingers for 2-3 years, or perhaps all the towns and cities around an entire ocean beings washed into a muddy mass. The worst possibility is an even greater wobble in the planets orbit, as we know black-matter stabilises orbits, and in just 70 years all fauna/flora glows back according to fact related studies.
So you can forget this idea of ‘will anyone survive’, ‘will it be the end’, ‘how will we continue’, etc. because as you already know, the entire planet is now fully and properly settled by human beings, a really good quality spread into every little region of the entire planet. But yeah, you might want to check for the continent sized area its due to land on, and its going to have to pass through a tiny little keyhole orbit for that 2036 hit.
Anthony, relax, we have capitalism, they’ll either do something about it, or not do anything about it, in which case they wont tell us their not doing anything about it, usually for a good reason, but in any case this allows us to relax and unwind, relax all the muscles and chill.
As and when they need our help, they’ll set up a monetary commission, as a way of drawing the attention of the workers to a pot of money available for endeavour purposes, if they dont need anyone then they wont, this is what is generally defined as the governments value for money guarantee, ensuring as you say, stuff happens, but also that its not without absolute need within reason.
Hi Anthony,
Many of the questions you have asked have already been indirectly answered by BEAM in the English FIGU Forum:
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?12/1871
The rest of the forum also have some interesting information from time to time. Explore them using the rudimentary and sometimes frustrating search function using keywords. Google search (more powerful) seems to work in the forum as well but it cannot find more recent entries that have not been archived by Google.
You are probably aware of http://futureofmankind.co.uk website as well.
Lastly, since this one will have financial implications to most I classify it as a “last,” it does not reflect the qualify of information by any means, consider collecting books by FIGU, and those who have written about Billy through personal experience of meeting and speaking with him. Some information are just not going to be available on-line.
Although this request may be an exercise in futility, you may wish to consider posting “one question per ‘post’ so people who ‘feel like’ helping you at that moment will help you. By posting ‘one question per ‘post’ it does not make the task of answering seem as daunting by those who still want to help, and the ensuing discussion would hopefully be more curtailed to the specific question instead of veering off all different directions as they tend to do. There is a topic for QUESTIONS & ANSWERS on this blogsite:
https://theyflyblog.com/2014/08/25/billy-meier-ufo-case-questions-answers/
I will attempt to answer your questions over there — assuming I have them answer, unless you are asking for an opinion — as I subscribe to that thread. I do not wish to answer questions on other threads as they just get too big and out of control sometimes. I just happen to read your post here scanning for interesting thought patterns and thought this information may be helpful. There are many well-meaning people here and imo many are just tired of reading and answering the same thing over and over.
This information may end up being re-posted in the future when appropriate.
Would anyone kindly remind me of the contact reports that contain details that explain the Greek Mythology (Zeus, Thor, Triton, Mt. Olympus and the rest…), if in fact there is one? I seem to recall running across this knowledge, but can’t seem to find it. Many thanks, Arie
Hi Arie !
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_061
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Jesus_Christ
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Planets (snippet below from this link)
Malona also called Malon[8], Phaeton[9], Tiamat and Planet V by modern theorists[10], it was called Phaethon with a th, in ancient greek and the most ancient stories and myths that survived and were passed on, some of the stories are mixed into stories about human beings called Phaethon and named after the planet, which of course has nothing to do with a Planet itself, unless there is clearly some cosmic information woven into the story. Metamorphoses by Ovid has several chapters for the ancient stories and myths of Phaeton. Its mentioned by Semjase in contact 4 and yet again in contact 251 where its explained how it was destroyed in the distant past of the Sol star system. Its current existence now constituting smaller and larger pieces forming the asteroid belt.[11][12] Which incidentally will be fully recognised by our distant descendants, probably during the time of frequent trips to and from Earth and future terraformed colonised Mars. But much like today, only a tiny batch of humanity will login to the evaluations. Only when, much later, the full facts of our worlds, our history and all the sciences that never change, are taught in future style schools under a different non-slavery style regime, will standard folk login to these ideas out of their own volition. Until then, it will only be the tiny batch that finds it.
Hey Wayne, Arie,
I’m responsible for that snippet on the planets page (I’m responsible for the whole page actually thats why I put the non-official figu stamp at the top for everyone), I should probably explain something. Ancient Greece is considered ‘extra curricular’ reading activity. The same is true in fact for all the ancient episodes, available texts etc. Ptaah and Quetzal do occasionally offer an interesting little incite, hint, snapshot of interest about these ancient historical lengths and breadths however in some of the contacts, often under the specific special words.
So that said, many of the ancient texts have been digitized, translated and can be found on google as pdf. Wiki lists contain colossal lists from many places, to copy paste into google to find the pdf. Many of the books are very long, and many of them you’ll find have maybe the first 4-5 chapters properly and professionally translated, and the rest of the chapters sort of just partially translated by an algorithm, making them harder to read and make sense of. But if we use the facts presented in the contacts as an entry into these texts, they can be made sense of much much better than any of the academics up until the current time have ever made sense of them. These were smart men, despite how the translations of these texts may portray them.
They knew a lot about various things apparently, it is possible that older texts and knowledge by way of culture and common communication maybe were woven into these texts. That is why they look much like myths, the so-called ‘ancient-greek-myth’, poorly told stories that need to be revised rewritten etc.
Anyway, enjoy, monstrous wealth of information available in our history.
Many thanks Wayne~!
Well, it seems I’ve been missing a lot around here, just checking in to say Hi! I guess the email notification thingy is not working again but that is not to say I cannot find this blog. Also wanted to say I spent a pleasant morning listening to radio shows Michael has done and wanted to thank Michael again for his work 🙂
From the OM, this may prove to be important now:
“41. If the human breaks through the veil that surrounds the self and removes the shells of the material pressure that restrict and cover it, he momentarily obtains, in the physical body, the determination of his BEING.”
Their is a longstanding human control faction that needs to collapse . Until that happens its hard to see beyond it . We know it needs to happen , but for now its extreme and although we speak to it , its very hard to look beyond it . Its unfortunate how extreme the world needs to collapse upon itself to envision this . Their is no more expansion , only contraction . I know of many technologies including those that are able to rejuvenate the earth . Its coming to the point that even these technologies are unable to overcome such catastrophe we face . This includes the entire atmospheric collapse , extinctsion of all species , animals, flora and fauna. Micro organisms will survive , but the entire planetary explosion ejects our entire mass into the solar system . That is what we are facing . Total destruction . So pondering the future is doing so within the expectation that this will not happen . Currently , as the warning so vividly heralded by BEAM is based on our total inability to cease from destroying everything we have known . This is the basis for our concentrating on keeping this from happening and the planetary meditations from far away . If we explode this planet it is a far reaching concern for billions very far away in a disaster like no other .
If your talking about Capitalism and intellectuals in combination with knowledge, experimentation, free markets, overpopulation etc. Just say that David, what on earth does this mean: “human control faction that needs to collapse”, do you mean humans who think? what do you mean?, and this: “There is no more expansion, only contraction”, no possible connection to anything, unless you mean an already pre-fat man loosing weight. And this “extinction of all species, animals, flora and fauna”, there are only a handful of possibilities in all universes that are capable of that, none of which we ever talk about unless were talking about Malona, and even that is rare conversation. Look, just chill out down relax a little bit and think about all these different factors in the way a university atheist would for a few men, think about richard dawkins for a few minutes and how he assesses knowledge for a little while.
The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, part of the National Institutes of Health, reaches the same conclusion that Ptaah stated back in May of 2005.
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/homeopathy-how-200-year-old-junk-science-created-junk-medicine-and-lasted-until-day
excerpt from 10 year old CR
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2014/10/homeopathy-excerpt-390th-contact_20.html
I understand the the most recent blog post article is the positive focus and that my commentary seems quite negative . I opine that I just relay some facts about our current affairs . Yes the positive thinking and the peace meditiation from our world and afar is very impactful . Things have been overted as a result and I agree we all should be greatful for it . However in living in the present its foolish to ignore some of the facts and most of which BEAM warned of and the extent of its realization is to emphasize the importance of being positive . So I was not pointing to just capitalism. Factually the planet is uprising against the overpopulation as a result of what has been enflicted upon it upsetting the balance in massive ways . We also possess the ability to explode our planet . Hence the intense intervention from the Plejaran . So factually we are under the control of the wealth of a few with radical plans to reduce the population in a sinister way . Invoked sickness , illness and wars against the masses . The technology to solve the problems have been hidden to emply the destruction of the existing peoples and nature . They believe they will outlive the planetary holocost in order to rehab it , with seed banks and genetic banks to restore and tailor the planet in their vision @ roughly one billion people . The soils are depleated for a reason , void of enough micro organisms to heal and prosper . The oceans are attacked with chemical run offs , direct injection and radiations enhancing the overharvesting of species . The assaults on the atmosphere has risen to a point of possible collapse . The WWF tracks extinctions in the thousands every day . The vegetation is directly assaulted by the same chemicals , engineering and fallout and overharvesting . We have the technology to live clean and in abundance now . Its all being withheld .To kill off the populous . In plain sight , every day . So I point out the obvious to highlight BEAMS work . People do not realize either side of the coin . And the end game is us destroying the planet and effecting far reaching solar systems . The Bikini Island nuke test is an example of a few thousand feet between it happening . And by an accidental calculation it did not happen . So If I highten the sense of urgency , mission accomplished . If not, then you have some more homework to do . Facts are facts , the magnitude is massive and the time it has been accelerating is been happening for over one hundred years . So people have to wake up and this is motivation to do so . Not for someone to be a conspiracy guy . That is an acknowledgement that one is not informed and the urgency is not realized yet . Back to sitting on the couch and downplaying your role in this life . Get involved in life , don’t just let it happen . A lot of bad people are banking on the numb , I am only one person mentality . Or lack of intelligence and willingness to believe in the propaganda . Inspect what you expect or just lay down and go back to your playstation or handset device . Life is happening and the contraction is in effect . Like it or not . Its all in plain view and right in front of our faces . All the meditation in the world has to take place or it will not work . One has to influence many , now .
I agree with You David 100%!! Exactly my point I am trying to make already for years. All this has also been written in one or the other prophecies Billy brought to light (either in the prophecies of Elia, of Jeremia, The Henoch Prophecies or in the Contact 251). There it is clearly written that, if we would want to make the world to turn to the better, we would first have to make manipulation and cospiracies of the “elite” known to the world, that would make people to revolt and make the “elite” to “tail and run”, only then the Truth could be presented to the people on the mass scale, which would eventualy make people to turn to the better. Only in this way the destruction could be averted! Therefore the “elite” is the biggest obstacle for the world not to get destroyed. As long the “elite” exists and has its status quo, they are going to continue to work on their conspiracies against the people and the planet Earth, continue to work on their evil plans, block the Truth to come out, even with a WWIV, if necessary, and lead the world to a certain destruction. Therefore someone would somehow first have to reveal to the world how the luciferian “elite” (Vatican and other Zionists, Jesuits and (Free)Masons) is intentionaly destroying humanity and the whole planet Earth, how they are working on the global genocide and total enslavement of the rest through microchipps, and the rest of the stuff You David wrote, etc. etc. Only this could make people to wake up and take control in their own hands! The only other thing I can see which could avert destruction is if some ET race would somehow avert it with their technology; but that is hardly going to happen. Although, if I remember correctly, Billy and Pleyarans once said something about that possibility; is that thing, that some ET race is going to try to avert nuclear holocaust still on, or did they changed their mind?
There is actually no shortage of people talking about the “elite” and various conspiracies. I think – for many reasons – we are past the point where most/any such information actually penetrates people’s consciousness or in any realistic, intelligent way impels them to take action.
Certainly bringing our focus to studying, understanding, applying the spiritual teaching (especially the might of the thoughts) in our own daily lives and coming together with like minded people will be more productive, since those changes can begin to be implemented now pin ourselves and flow outward from there.
To me that would be a mistake, just like the one that Creation Overlords, who later genetically created the white warrior race, which also later migrated to this planet, made. They, too, were thinking of themselves of being so evolved, that they are masters of their destiny; and neglected the law of planetary defense, and eventually got invaded for their planetary resources. We all know how badly they paid for that mistake. Obviosly Creational Laws do not tolerate neglection of planetary defense, naither from inside or outside threats, no matter how evolved people on some planet are. Now, we are about to do the same mistake. We mistakenly think if some of us, who are willing, all “only” spiritualy work on ourself, that problems that some people are so insane that they are willing to intentionally destroy the world, or at least comit planetary genocide and enslave the rest of humanity, are simply gonna go away. No, they are not! Even if we would all want to preserve the world, and there is only one nutter, who has the will and means to destroy the world, only our good will is not going to prevent the destruction. And these “elite” nutters are not planning to destroy the world during the next few centuries but in the next few years, so we do not have enough time so the “only working on ourselves” would do the job. So, if we want to prevent the destruction, we have to stop them, phisically, before they succed to destroy it. I do not understand the logic how some of You are pushing for ISIS to get physically stopped – destroyed, but not the “elite”, who is much greater threat to the world (the planet Earth as a whole) than ISIS is?! In that sense should not you promote that we try to stop ISIS only by working on ourselves?! Of course not, becuse you know that that can not work. And so it is also with the zionists and all other shabang they control, including ISIS. The “elite” is not only a conspiracy theory; even the Pleyarans themselves said a few times in the contacts that there is a secret cabal, they named them as “zionists”, who are manipulating world affairs. Most people do not realize that when we talk about zionists it does not refer to Israeli or jews, but the true zionists originate from Babylonian Chladeans dynasty, whose descendents were also rulers (zionists) of the Roman Empire, whose descendants – modern day zionists are popes, (some) cardinals, even some Jesuits (generals), “royal” families, world top banksters and some cabalists. Chaldean zionists also founded special army forces – assassins – Templars (ancient Masons). Both, popes and Templars, later founded Jesuits, who later on founded other secret societies, which all are joined together as all being a part of modern day (Free)Masonry, whose religion is Luciferian doctrine. So it is not just a conpiracy theory! In either Prophecies of Jeremia or in the Contact 251, I remember clerarly that there is written (as one of the possible futures) that when the time comes that the “elite” is going to try to enslave the world (with microchips and supercomputer in Brussel), people would rise up and make them teil and run. To me that is a clear advice, what we should do when the time comes; if we want to prevent either enslavement or world destruction. I see no other reason why else would this be written in the prophecies Pleyarans gave to us. I do not know why Pleyarans suddenly do not se that as a solution anymore; but to me that is a clear mistake why they are constantly failing to make us not to destroy ourselves. I think that not only Pleyarans but all of You in the Mission are underastimating the importance of the “elite`” role at, not only their manipulations and conspiracies, but also at distorting and suppresing the Thruth from the world; that is why you constantly fail at reverting humanity from (self)destruction. Everyday lots of complete nonsense circles around the world in less than 24 hours, but something so important as “BEAM information” and warnings about world` destruction can not circle the world even in more than fifty years?! Are You kidding me; if that is not a conspiracy then nothing is. From the contacts we also learn about impeading invasion on our planet for our planteary resources in not so distant future; are we going also then do the same mistake like Creation Overlords did; just work on our spirituality, thinking that then nothing can hurt us?! Or are we going to prepare as we should, and kick the invadors out of our dimension, which also Creation Overlords had to do in the end?!! I am sure that it is going to come down at the end, soon, that either we phisically stop the “elite” and other nutters from enslaving or/and destroying the world, or we are going to fail altogether, for sure! I remember some time ago how You put Your hopes on “Snowden leaks”, how that would make the people to rise up against the “elite”; so I know how You at least put some hopes on the “make them tail and run” option. After trying for years to wake up people with different approaches, I have found out and am certain tha only “revealing of the “elite” and their plans” on the mas scale can make the people wake up and make them act, as with only this approach I had some success. The only ones I succeded to wake up that later also turned to the “Billy Maier case” were the ones that woke up to conspiracies. Almost everybody else can not believe that the “Billy Maier case” could be for real, because they think that if it was, the system (TV and the political and religious “leaders”) would let them already know. That is the main problem! (Almost) Only conspiracy “nutters” are able to deal with the “Billy Maier case”, because they know the status quo, because of their conspiracy, does not want us to know about that. And because they know about these “scarry” conspiracies, they are capable to deal with the information Billy Maier brings; almost everybody else can not; their false perception of reality does not allows them to. And all this can not change until they are told about the conspiracies.
There are different kinds of battles. Physical attacks require physical defense. Exposing powers behind the scenes doesn’t call for that kind of violence from the get go. As Billy MEIER has also said, the use of weapons and taking of lives is only allowed in the strictest kind of self-defense and defense of others.
If people simply think that they should do an off-with-their-heads French Revolution number on the “elite”, that kind of mentality will not bring about evolutive change. Withdrawing support from that which suppresses you and creating deliberate, conscious support for that which which evolves from self-responsibility, thinking, reason, for the right pursuit of love, peace, freedom and harmony are required.
So instead of us getting too lost in theoretical matters, here’s an invitation:
In our comments, let’s try to share actual…examples of HOW we have dealt, or are dealing, with the things present in our lives in accordance with the principles in the spiritual teaching.
Mike has a great point. Even if you remove the alleged ‘global ruling elite’ as the conspiracy folks makes books over, how does that change the day to day engagement you have with your fellow human beings? When the high fiving is done, how is society set up to work together if people cannot get along together if in their day jobs they cannot manage the stresses of “civilization”?