It’s just like in the movies, so what’s the problem?
If an advanced, space-traveling race were to try to warn us of a real, impending danger to our world and to do so without directly interfering in it, how might they go about it?
Just like in the movies, might they take a very calculated approach and insert just enough information – and controversy – into our awareness so as to prompt at least a few thinking people to pay attention and delve into it?
In the movies there’s usually some kind of a cryptic message, mathematical formula, or (only in the movies) a radio signal. And some intrepid person, scientist or otherwise (think Richard Dreyfuss) gets about the task of unscrambling or deciphering the message that will ultimately reveal to humanity that…we are not alone.
So why can’t real life be just like the movies to the extent that scientists involved in the search for extraterrestrial life would display at least as much curiosity and interest in following up on any such evidence. But what even remotely comparable evidence is there, one might ask?
Well we’ve been publishing the evidence and information in the Meier case for years, as well as sending it to any and all scientists, journalists, publications, news outlets, forums, etc., as we can. While there are some courageous, highly credible scientific experts who’ve analyzed, corroborated and authenticated it, the mainstream…everything has remained comfortably non-responsive. But at what cost to all of us?
The Red Meteor aka Asteroid Apophis
One specific example is the information from Meier and the Pleajren about what they called the Red Meteor, aka asteroid Apophis. Starting in 1981, they warned about this object coming towards Earth and the need for our scientists to come together to deflect it from it’s trajectory.
Naturally, the know-it-alls were dismissive of the information, citing the always infallible NASA to reassure us that Apophis was really nothing to worry about. Sure, NASA changed its estimate of the actual size of Apophis to within 25 meters of what Meier published but…so what? After all, we’re Americans and Americans are always right, right?
However, it actually does appear that Meier’s warnings have been pursued, though not by US scientists, only those “nobodies” in Russia and China. While our scientists are busy creating various “initiatives” and other public relations exercises, the Chinese and Russians have gone about the business of planning to deflect asteroid Apophis, as specifically recommended by the Plejaren.
Saving Face or Saving Lives?
The unspoken truth is that none of the mainstream scientists and organizations in the US actually expect to “discover” extraterrestrial life for a long time. There’s an underlying belief that it’s not “supposed to happen yet”.
Let’s take a moment to put things in perspective. Remember that all of the scientists of today, including at NASA, SETI, etc., were in the past just…students, sitting in college classrooms like today’s aspiring scientists are. Far from being any kind of all-knowing gods then either, they too were working hard to get their degrees, pursue higher learning and, in too many cases, also a falsely elevated status, celebrity standing, fame and fortune, etc. After all, it’s the…American way (and now in a few other places as well). Such self-seeking and profit motivated agendas do nothing good for humanity but I’m not so naïve as to think that it’s going to stop anytime soon, despite the great cost to our collective wellbeing.
So now that certain scientists have attained their long sought, expensively pursued positions and status, far, far too many of them are more concerned with not rocking the boat (read: loss of funding, tenure, so-called credibility, etc.). So there they sit, silently refusing to acknowledge, let alone comment on such matters as the voluminous, authenticated, corroborated evidence and information in the Meier case…even if it means that an asteroid actually will slam into the Earth. One might think that it’s their way of saying that they’d rather die than face the embarrassment of finding what they say they’re looking for. Maybe more correctly, they’d rather that other people die than risk their own vested interests.
People, make no mistake about it, this is exactly the kind of world we live in. This is exactly the to-be-expected result of the ever-increasing greedy selfishness, lack of self-honesty and integrity that has supplanted all such previously exalted human values. Unlike their on-screen counterparts, these scientists would rather…not be the ones who will forever be associated with the most important discovery in human history, the existence of extraterrestrial life – and its outreach to help humanity assure its own future survival.
Paint It Red
We speculated on the possible connection between the Red Meteor and the Torino Scale. In yet another interesting twist on the “red” component, Jeff Tan posted this information on our blog about how the “older rocks tend to be reddish (emphasis added) in these observations”:
“To know for certain whether this happens, astronomers will need to observe Apophis during its 2029 pass. Scientists age asteroids by surveying infrared light; older, weathered rocks tend to appear more reddish in these observations. If a high-quality spectrum can be obtained during the approach, it should be possible to compare the color of Apophis before and after its flyby, Bottke says. “When [Apophis] makes its pass, we’ll get to run the experiment. Whether it’s all solved or not we’ll have to find out.”
As Chris Lock also pointed out:
As to why NASA’s trajectory of Apophis is wrong: Apophis seems capable of landslides. These and chnages to its orbit as it approaches “the keyhole” on its flyby of Earth in 2029 could very likely result in a changed trajectory bringing it THEN onto a collision course with Earth. It is not made of ice so we are not looking at dissolved parts. It could be this is why Ptaah mentioned that Earth scientists need to be doing something asap as presumably after the flyby will be too late…Meier isn’t just predicting a meteor will “someday” hit the Earth: He is predicting its size, approximate date of arrival, specific point of impact, and resultant effects. Just a few important details you omitted. The US experiences hundreds of tornados a year. SInce when has the earth experienced hundreds of meteors a year?
Matthew Knight’s reasoning also bears consideration:
Quetzal: “Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.”
In CR 150, Billy and Quetzal state, as facts, that “humanity” will, not only, learn the identity of red meteor in the future (or what is the point of the warning?), but, they will receive further “words and warnings” (plural). One “red meteor” warning from this 1981 conversation would not constitute adequate warning that “humanity” “should” or could do anything about – even if they ultimately decide to “do not do” anything. So far, all the predictions, both, implied and stated, in that 1981 contact report, have come true!
Meier had an impossibly small window of time for scientists to identify a suitable NEO from 1981, that will pass close enough to Earth to be recognised as any kind of threat. Again, the identification of a suitable NEO would have to come before Meier’s death. After then, Billy would not be able to confirm any findings from astronomers, or, put flesh on the bones of Quetzal’s original warning so that it makes sense and becomes a set of “warnings” that mankind can “listen to”. Also, this NEO would have to be passing earth before the time that we are able to defend against all NEOs with future space technologies, say, in the year 2050 (according to timeframes of current NEO space projects). Therefore, in 1981, Meier’s window for this prediction to come true was 1981 – circa 2050.
In 1991, the earliest known publication date, no known NEOs were expected to come close to Earth. Even though Apophis was spotted 13 years later and was initially a high-risk threat, no NEOs since are expected to threaten earth before 2050. Everything Billy and Quetzal discussed in 1981 about the “future” time – where mankind knows about this meteor and can do something about it – has been proven to be true. Why, then, doubt Billy’s accuracy about the remainder of that prediction if impossible odds were involved? Meier’s warning has been explicit and consistent since 1981 whilst astronomers have disagreed about the size of the object, even following Ptaah’s estimate of 350 metres in CR 475. Scientists have also been unable to agree how close Apophis will pass to the Earth and the changing calculations continue whilst the Plejaren have said the same thing since 1981.
What we have above is certainly “speculative” but one would say that it’s every bit as good, thoughtful and compelling as anything from a science fiction movie, especially when one actually does examine Meier’s record of voluminous, accurate scientific information. Of course our distinguished scientists are not yet deigning to comment about Meier’s warnings – certainly none have yet attempted to refute or, equally telling, debunk it.
So will the “kids” who sat in those classrooms years ago, who now have academic positions and initials after their names, etc., end up being shown up by “ordinary” people who’ve taken the self-responsibility to try to make a difference in the world, who aren’t so concerned about loss of face as they are abut loss of lives, will they…grow up, show up and do their jobs and maybe then get their sought after book and movie deals, reality show, or whatever else they really lust after?
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I guess not everyone has a bunch of people send them all, if not some of their hard earned, bought, material on Billy’s ‘case’! Then turn around after finding their OWN self centered, prejudice, arm chair expert opinions on the information that is obviously far from their grasp. Call it fake while neither saying it right out or having the courage and bravery to be hum they are, in the real world. Such a cop out to resort to the money aspect when if one took the time to actually think of what they are saying, would see it is not farther from the truth!
The Goblet of truth is available free online, amongst A LOT of other material! People have posted its link here. Maybe someone is waiting for another to just donate it to them as they don’t have the self responsibility to get it for themselves!
What I don’t get is why some post here and keep posting here that are not, or it seems they aren’t, into the material. Some have commented there that are obviously upset or have strong views against the material but after a few rounds of comments they disappear, this seems pretty normal behavior. Maybe in returning here time after time again there is a secert desire to want to understand, to learn more, dunno? If returning time and time again with no notion of learning or understanding the motives would, to me, seem to be unhealthy and/or mean spirited, serving some sort of obsessive agenda. If I see or read something I don’t agree with I just leave, I don’t bother with it, I don’t keep going back wasting my time. Seriously I don’t get it!
Agreed Ev.
That’s a fair comment. I was enjoying the exchanges. And I think it’s generally healthy to get a wide cross-section of ideas. But, as I’ve said before, if MH says that he’d prefer it if I left, I will.
Upon further reflection, I’ll remove myself (at least temporarily). I don’t want to cause problems or be perceived as mean-spirited. There are some good people here.
A healthy exchange of views is one thing but if someone that has been following this board knows or have seen this issue being addressed before, using the “making money on the Meier material” as a cheap shot, I do think this is a bit mean spirited……but hey, that’s just me.
They seem to have a bone to pick and as far as I have come to see it usually flows back to preconceived beliefs and thoughts of an earthly, solidified nature. Nothing will change these peoples thoughts, feelings, actions within changing towards the ‘truth’…. or because of preconceived beliefs, from that which they cannot explain, right away, sitting on their chair. Seems as though some will never see in this life how extraordinary we are to have this chance to find this ‘case’. The internal sway of the thoughts, consciousness can go either positive or negative, at any time we let/allow it.
Though those willing have to continue this fight against these people whom would rather see this all fall, like it has so many times before, because of nothing but erroneous belief driven earth based thoughts, feelings, actions.
As it would seem against the recommendations of the p’s, they would rather we spend our most treasured energy’s on working on ourselves, let alone care what these half wits think in this life. Some have a rather unique life of balancing these things on a thin line in this crazy, delusional, belief driven mess of a consciously thought based life.
Ev I wouldn’t let it bother you. Easy to say and hard to do but in the end we are in control of everything for oneself and I am just happy that to his obvious irritation, and patience, MH let these people have there say here….. over and over! Only if they knew how many times Michael has been banned, ostracized, out right tossed in the bin to have him let them come this far on his blog! They cannot say, like so many other places they didn’t have their day-month in the sun. Even if no one knew whom they were or where they had been in life. Outright cowardly in my opinion. How does one deal with such cowardly, no it all’s, when it comes to something as important as that which so many will never find within their phantasmagoria thoughts, and that which is always to good to be true.
Had to look up the word “phantasmagoria” Phillip 🙂 It does bring a certain character to the board 🙂
The only problem that I have noticed with BEAM and FIGU is that like many groups of people who are propounding an idea or a philosophy, they permit no real discussion: it’s either “this” way or “that” way, black or white. . . . there are no shades of grey. If BEAM said something or quoted Ptaah or Quetzal or Semjase, well then that becomes the Gospel according to BEAM and may not be questioned in any way. Because of this fact, he has done some damage to his credibility. He needs to permit more questions and discussion about these topics. Indeed, we seem to be expected to swallow everything BEAM tells us “hook , line and sinker”, so to speak, and allow him to reel us in. We may have done many things “wrong” as humans on the earth over many thousands of years, but we are many people, not just one person called “earthling”. In fact, there may be very sophisticated people incarnating on the earth these days. BEAM and FIGU seem to want to “dumb us down” to the level of children needing to be spoonfed bits of “truth”, not permitted to question or argue with the almighty “teacher” . . . . like grade-school children of a past generation.
I do believe that the Plejaren people exist and have been communicating with BEAM for over 70 years. I also believe that other ET’s are visiting this planet and communicate with some selected people. Not all the ET’s come from the same source either, and there may be conflicts among them of which we are ignorant.
Michael has done a great job of publicizing the Meier information and that is to his credit. I don’t believe that Michael is profiteering, so that is an unfair accusation.
I have been in the FIGU forum and can say, that anyone who is inclined to “speak their mind” in there immediately gets told off. . . . however kindly meant, if I need to be afraid of offending somebody in there, then there’s something cultish and “fishy” about the whole thing. We should not be worshiping either BEAM or the Plejaren, and we should feel that we can express our own ideas about this without fear of censorship or being “put down” for having our own ideas instead of accepting everything we are told at face value.
My opinion regarding this dangerous asteroid is, yes the Plejaren can take care of it and most likely will, as time unfolds. If they don’t another group of ET’s most certainly will. .. . . We need not be held hostage by prophecies of doom or any other threats emanating from the direction of any group of ET’s. The Plejaren themselves admit that there are other races of ET’s visiting this planet, so. . . . let’s have hope for the future and not get caught up too much in negative predestination fantasies.
And a cryptic message for Ouranos. . . . Chronos is watching you! Always remember the limitations of your own power!
Carolyn,
I can only say as a participant on the FIGU forum and here as well, that people with contrary views certainly get to have their say. Of course people oppose each other on different things and some things that they may get taken to task for priming factually incorrect info, etc.
Meier doesn’t force, enforce, censor, cajole, require any “belief”, etc., etc. He doesn’t even pos tof the forum other than a monthly Q&A. There will also always be people who misunderstand, misuse, corrupt information, etc. – heck, why do you think there even is a mission other than to try to get the info and spiritual teaching into our world without more religious falsification and damage?
As for Apophis, nope, NOBODY is coming to save us. That’s a carry over of your religious thinking. As you may better understand when you read all of the info on Apophis and Chris lock’s posts today as well, this is a real and serious threat to Earth that Meier, the Plejaren and people who recognize their authenticity and benevolent intentions are carrying the ball on, trying to get our know-it-all-scientists to be really cognizant of and JOIN in an international effort to…do their jobs.
If the Plejaran are truly benevolent. . . . then they will see to it that we don’t get hit by a huge meteor, comet, stray planet etc. . . etc. . . .etc.
No, if they’re “truly benevolent” they will let us learn and evolve and not interfere and, once again, be our…”Gods”.
What the PJ’s think, or even if they exist, doesn’t matter at all.
All that matters is that there is a big meteor up there that is going to cause some problems if it is not dealt with.
Maybe I am a bit too rational, but my thought is that I don’t care where information comes from so long as it is true, or worth looking into.
Hence, I don’t see why people care about the benevolence of aliens, what their attitude might be, or the color of the thing coming to kill them.
Our leaders and scientists are off at fund raisers drinking champagne while a cosmic bomb is on its way. That should be the topic of conversation, imo.
If the Plejarens don’t interfere, someone else will, believe me!
Not likely and please remember, there’s NO belief involved!
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endangered-by-new-strain-of-fact-resistant-humans
“Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are threatening the ability of Earth to sustain life, a sobering new study reports.”
As an addition to what I posted on the other blog page about Apophis’s very real potential to be red itself and to have red effects upon collision, I refer you to two Discovery TV programs: These were both shown on cable TV in Osaka where I saw them last July (2014). As I am sending this again by smartphone I will mention them in separate posts here. The first roughly translated into English is (I don’t know the actual English title) “The Best Three World Mysteries: Number 1.”
The program shares the work of a Professor Chandler (I am writing from the notes I made at the time) on his discovery of red cells in meteroites that has actually colored rain red for up to 60 days. We actually have records of these events of our lifetimes. Originally no one knew why these rain were coming down red. So they have been investigated. These rains that fell looked exactly like blood. People that experienced it (I think one place was Africa, but find and watch the program because I don’t have the details of where in my notes) called it “blood rain” and it caused those experiencing it concern.
Chandler’s research on cells revealed that red rain cells have thick cellular walls whereas blood has VERY thin cellular walls. The locals were eased by knowing that the rain was not blood because it was colored exactly the same and was, to the locals, indistinguishable from real blood.
Chandler’s studies on the red cells led him to conclude that the way the cells were propagating or multiplying meant they were extraterrestrial, and from meteorites that had entered our atmosphere and affected the rain with their red cellular makeup as they disintegrated.
Chandler noted that the cells have no DNA, which all living cells need to propagate and reproduce. These red cells survived temperatures in excess of 300 degrees.
I have long (since first hearing of the Red Meteor) thought that the Red Meteor was so named because it would be red and cause red effects upon its collision, should it collide.
Part 2 to follow on “Cosmic Collisions: Collision Earth” of 2008.
Part 2: “Cosmic Collisions: Collision Earth” of 2008 shown in Osaka on cable TV 18 July 2014.
I will opine up front that these sorts of programs are ad far as we are ever likely to hear of a direct threat — until our amateur astronomers confirm. There are examples in many films and real life showing that the governments will not announce such events as certain even if they know they are certain. Why? They are just afraid that social mayhem and a complete breakdown of society would occur immediately, making it the worst thing to do. It is not that I agree with such a position just that we have seen again and again how issues too big to handle are…well just not handled and so the public are not informed. Perhaps the latest iteration being Fukushima.
Anyway, to the program:
A quarter mile diameter asteroid (pretty close to Apophis’ size?) approaches Earth. Pieces break off and crash on land. A tsunami destroys LA. The program “reassures” that this is not coming to LA: but Apophis is coming and the program asks what would the effects of Apophis be. It then proceeds to tell us thst Apophis is an “s” type asteroid. That is, it is stoney and likely to break up. However, the show posits, if it doesn’t break up it may be even more deadly.
The program also mentions that there is currently no program on Earth involved in preventing its impact and that if less than 10 years before impact something is done the asteroid could be impossible to stop or deflect. This means we only have about 4-5 years to get on board with a deflection program as after the flyby there will only be seven years left before impact.
Apophis had an impact chance initially calculated as 1 in 45 by NASA and the chance peaked at 1 in 30. (I am just going with my notes on the program as before).
It goes on to compare the Arizona meteor made of iron nickel which would have produced winds of up to 2,000mph petering out at 20 miles. This was only about 30-50 m in diameter. Apophis, of course, is 10 times that size.
Apophis impact would be of 880 megatons of TNT. Meteor Crater in Arizona was as bout 20-20 megatons. Apophis would also dwarf Tungutsuka which had an explosion somewhat equivalent to a 30-40 m diameter meteor. So again Apophis would presumably be at least 10 times as big.
The program confirms that on 2029 Earth’s gravity could pull Apophis into Earth orbit. If Apophis enters the “keyhole” (an area in space close to the earth) then Apophis will impact in 2036.
Significantly, it is mentioned that a nuclear weapon could be used to deflect the object by exploding nearby but not on or in the asteroid.
The program soberly concludes by saying that we’d need decades to plan and execute a deflection, plus lots of money; and PUBLIC DEMAND IS NECESSARY.
[Last emphasis mine].
Typo in above post should read “…ten years something is NOT done…”
Also Meteor Crater was a 10-20 megaton event.
Here is another showing clearly how in a purely scientific and geologic manner the earth turns red after an iron meteorite impact. Proof of this is in our earth in Ohio state, USA. It is known as The Clovis Layer. The Clovis Layer is a red band in the earth. Points that need taking note of are that many meteorites are very high in iron content, this upon entering the earth red iron oxide is formed as the meteor showers in or collides and evaporates. Iron is also magnetic and this means it can be attracted to the earth which can function in some ways like an electro magnet. One point this program didn’t make is that this could result on Apophis ending up bring also influenced magnetically by the earth in ways we do not know that change its trajectory towards impact in an area different from that currently calculated by our scientists.
The Clovis Layer , is the band of red earth resulting from the impact of a meteor in antiquity. The program days the event resulted in the end of megamamals in Ohio. In Japanese this Discovery TV program, shown in Osaka cable TV on 24 April 201, was called “Chikyu 46 Okunen Dai He…(?)” Not sure of the last word. It translates to something like “The great Earth 4,600,000,000 (something).”
These programs were listened to in English as they were broadcast bilingual so the only potential translation problems are with the titles.
Above typo for those trying to locate the program: “…shown 24 April 2011.”
I have an inkling that the good ‘ol’ USA is “waiting” for the red meteor to strike so they can be the “Saviours” of the day…. i think they want it to happen . Greed and control
Im pretty convinced that they know ‘All”…….. about Billy and recognise the truth ! But dont let on to the public , Another game of Chess anybody? !
I listen to a show a while back, the guest being a guy from Canada (I don’t recall his name at the moment) and if I remember correctly he helped or did much of the translations work on the The Psyche, was talking about spending time over at the center in Switzerland and how Billy loved to laugh and he really liked to play chess, it seems he is quite the competitor and when playing with him if you don’t make your move quick enough he will make a move again, you losing your shot for that round 🙂
Ev……..I think it’s called trolling.
ah, yes, that’s the word 🙂 Thanks DAVID
And as NASA has its funding slashed by the reprehensible reprobates who deny the reality of science and demonstrable facts it is best for the average person to have some interest in safeguarding the planet. Looks like it’s up to the average people to do the slightly above average thing and save earth.
You got Pablo. Right ON.:))) High Five or better yet Fist Bump.:)))
Russia spurs work on asteroid protection system – http://tass.ru/en/russia/721013
“The Ministry of Emergencies together with its foreign counterparts would, therefore, continue “to develop systems for space monitoring and prediction of emergency situations and fires, alongside systems for the protection of social infrastructure from space threats and technologies for protection of human life and health from natural disasters”, he said.”
This excerpt is from a Feb. 2015 Tass News piece that referred back to the Chelyabinsk meteor from a year earlier. It gives you an idea of how rational, scientific, social minded professionals and institutions recognize and deal with a potential natural disaster.
So now whether you agree with Meier’s warning of the Red Meteor or not, remember the Chelyabinsk meteor can always be used as a plausible reason to deflect the Red Meteor before it collides with the Earth.
Well , today another close call . A scheduled one mile wide blip (which is the biggest one being monitored at the moment ) is to be flying by , closer than the distance between us and the moon . Well , McFly , what if it hit the moon ? Oh well , just have to see what happens today .
Hello David,
the asteroid 1999 FN53, that you are referring to, is not a close call and it will not pass by “closer than the distance between us and the moon”. Instead it will fly by at about 26.4 lunar distances (26.4 times the distance to the moon), or roughly 10 million km. Apophis, on the other hand, could come as close as 31 thousand km, which is less than a 12th of the distance to the moon, on Friday, April 13th 2029, according to NASA and hit the Earth exactly 7 years later, on Sunday, April 13th 2036, if not deflected, according to the Plejaren and Meier.