It’s just like in the movies, so what’s the problem?
If an advanced, space-traveling race were to try to warn us of a real, impending danger to our world and to do so without directly interfering in it, how might they go about it?
Just like in the movies, might they take a very calculated approach and insert just enough information – and controversy – into our awareness so as to prompt at least a few thinking people to pay attention and delve into it?
In the movies there’s usually some kind of a cryptic message, mathematical formula, or (only in the movies) a radio signal. And some intrepid person, scientist or otherwise (think Richard Dreyfuss) gets about the task of unscrambling or deciphering the message that will ultimately reveal to humanity that…we are not alone.
So why can’t real life be just like the movies to the extent that scientists involved in the search for extraterrestrial life would display at least as much curiosity and interest in following up on any such evidence. But what even remotely comparable evidence is there, one might ask?
Well we’ve been publishing the evidence and information in the Meier case for years, as well as sending it to any and all scientists, journalists, publications, news outlets, forums, etc., as we can. While there are some courageous, highly credible scientific experts who’ve analyzed, corroborated and authenticated it, the mainstream…everything has remained comfortably non-responsive. But at what cost to all of us?
The Red Meteor aka Asteroid Apophis
One specific example is the information from Meier and the Pleajren about what they called the Red Meteor, aka asteroid Apophis. Starting in 1981, they warned about this object coming towards Earth and the need for our scientists to come together to deflect it from it’s trajectory.
Naturally, the know-it-alls were dismissive of the information, citing the always infallible NASA to reassure us that Apophis was really nothing to worry about. Sure, NASA changed its estimate of the actual size of Apophis to within 25 meters of what Meier published but…so what? After all, we’re Americans and Americans are always right, right?
However, it actually does appear that Meier’s warnings have been pursued, though not by US scientists, only those “nobodies” in Russia and China. While our scientists are busy creating various “initiatives” and other public relations exercises, the Chinese and Russians have gone about the business of planning to deflect asteroid Apophis, as specifically recommended by the Plejaren.
Saving Face or Saving Lives?
The unspoken truth is that none of the mainstream scientists and organizations in the US actually expect to “discover” extraterrestrial life for a long time. There’s an underlying belief that it’s not “supposed to happen yet”.
Let’s take a moment to put things in perspective. Remember that all of the scientists of today, including at NASA, SETI, etc., were in the past just…students, sitting in college classrooms like today’s aspiring scientists are. Far from being any kind of all-knowing gods then either, they too were working hard to get their degrees, pursue higher learning and, in too many cases, also a falsely elevated status, celebrity standing, fame and fortune, etc. After all, it’s the…American way (and now in a few other places as well). Such self-seeking and profit motivated agendas do nothing good for humanity but I’m not so naïve as to think that it’s going to stop anytime soon, despite the great cost to our collective wellbeing.
So now that certain scientists have attained their long sought, expensively pursued positions and status, far, far too many of them are more concerned with not rocking the boat (read: loss of funding, tenure, so-called credibility, etc.). So there they sit, silently refusing to acknowledge, let alone comment on such matters as the voluminous, authenticated, corroborated evidence and information in the Meier case…even if it means that an asteroid actually will slam into the Earth. One might think that it’s their way of saying that they’d rather die than face the embarrassment of finding what they say they’re looking for. Maybe more correctly, they’d rather that other people die than risk their own vested interests.
People, make no mistake about it, this is exactly the kind of world we live in. This is exactly the to-be-expected result of the ever-increasing greedy selfishness, lack of self-honesty and integrity that has supplanted all such previously exalted human values. Unlike their on-screen counterparts, these scientists would rather…not be the ones who will forever be associated with the most important discovery in human history, the existence of extraterrestrial life – and its outreach to help humanity assure its own future survival.
Paint It Red
We speculated on the possible connection between the Red Meteor and the Torino Scale. In yet another interesting twist on the “red” component, Jeff Tan posted this information on our blog about how the “older rocks tend to be reddish (emphasis added) in these observations”:
“To know for certain whether this happens, astronomers will need to observe Apophis during its 2029 pass. Scientists age asteroids by surveying infrared light; older, weathered rocks tend to appear more reddish in these observations. If a high-quality spectrum can be obtained during the approach, it should be possible to compare the color of Apophis before and after its flyby, Bottke says. “When [Apophis] makes its pass, we’ll get to run the experiment. Whether it’s all solved or not we’ll have to find out.”
As Chris Lock also pointed out:
As to why NASA’s trajectory of Apophis is wrong: Apophis seems capable of landslides. These and chnages to its orbit as it approaches “the keyhole” on its flyby of Earth in 2029 could very likely result in a changed trajectory bringing it THEN onto a collision course with Earth. It is not made of ice so we are not looking at dissolved parts. It could be this is why Ptaah mentioned that Earth scientists need to be doing something asap as presumably after the flyby will be too late…Meier isn’t just predicting a meteor will “someday” hit the Earth: He is predicting its size, approximate date of arrival, specific point of impact, and resultant effects. Just a few important details you omitted. The US experiences hundreds of tornados a year. SInce when has the earth experienced hundreds of meteors a year?
Matthew Knight’s reasoning also bears consideration:
Quetzal: “Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.”
In CR 150, Billy and Quetzal state, as facts, that “humanity” will, not only, learn the identity of red meteor in the future (or what is the point of the warning?), but, they will receive further “words and warnings” (plural). One “red meteor” warning from this 1981 conversation would not constitute adequate warning that “humanity” “should” or could do anything about – even if they ultimately decide to “do not do” anything. So far, all the predictions, both, implied and stated, in that 1981 contact report, have come true!
Meier had an impossibly small window of time for scientists to identify a suitable NEO from 1981, that will pass close enough to Earth to be recognised as any kind of threat. Again, the identification of a suitable NEO would have to come before Meier’s death. After then, Billy would not be able to confirm any findings from astronomers, or, put flesh on the bones of Quetzal’s original warning so that it makes sense and becomes a set of “warnings” that mankind can “listen to”. Also, this NEO would have to be passing earth before the time that we are able to defend against all NEOs with future space technologies, say, in the year 2050 (according to timeframes of current NEO space projects). Therefore, in 1981, Meier’s window for this prediction to come true was 1981 – circa 2050.
In 1991, the earliest known publication date, no known NEOs were expected to come close to Earth. Even though Apophis was spotted 13 years later and was initially a high-risk threat, no NEOs since are expected to threaten earth before 2050. Everything Billy and Quetzal discussed in 1981 about the “future” time – where mankind knows about this meteor and can do something about it – has been proven to be true. Why, then, doubt Billy’s accuracy about the remainder of that prediction if impossible odds were involved? Meier’s warning has been explicit and consistent since 1981 whilst astronomers have disagreed about the size of the object, even following Ptaah’s estimate of 350 metres in CR 475. Scientists have also been unable to agree how close Apophis will pass to the Earth and the changing calculations continue whilst the Plejaren have said the same thing since 1981.
What we have above is certainly “speculative” but one would say that it’s every bit as good, thoughtful and compelling as anything from a science fiction movie, especially when one actually does examine Meier’s record of voluminous, accurate scientific information. Of course our distinguished scientists are not yet deigning to comment about Meier’s warnings – certainly none have yet attempted to refute or, equally telling, debunk it.
So will the “kids” who sat in those classrooms years ago, who now have academic positions and initials after their names, etc., end up being shown up by “ordinary” people who’ve taken the self-responsibility to try to make a difference in the world, who aren’t so concerned about loss of face as they are abut loss of lives, will they…grow up, show up and do their jobs and maybe then get their sought after book and movie deals, reality show, or whatever else they really lust after?
SETI Sent Evidence of ET Contact by They Fly Productions
New Confirmation of Billy Meier’s Warnings about Apophis
New NASA Discovery: The Earth Is Round!
Russian Meteor a Warning to Prevent Apophis Impact
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Thanks for that correction Marco , I must have misread the info . But I was late to your update . Pretty scary regarding a moon inpact as well . How long are we going to be lucky , you know ? It does have a long history of these impacts. I hope it never happens
Hi David, actually there was an asteroid on May 15, 2015 called 2015 JF1 that was between 6.2 and 14 metres that came within 307,200 km. Well within the distance to the moon.
Maybe, just maybe we need the in your face approach. It was only just recently i was put into billy by a close friend Andrew Grimshaw and i know its against their beliefs/laws to interfere but the ratings they fly page paint a saddening picture were not reaching enough people is one small loophole relly worth the collective evolution of the many because the few control the media? All it would take is a nation or even city wide display would it not? As long as the mainstreem media is under the thumb and recites what their told and not the truth it will be too late for us all nasa and seti are a waste of time in my opinion the government has spent too much time and resources dispelling the whole extraterrestrial with taboo why would they invite steven to the private gatherings if it was not a cover? Food for thought i guess and believe this will fall on deaf ears but ant least i have tried. Love your work btw Michael
Thanks Ross. The sad truth is that people are in denial still put profit, short term as it is, over the truth. So now there will be…very long term consequences.
Well said Mr. Horn! But knowing those “experts” with their “grand” titles, and knowing the plans and agenda of the “elite”, I am affraid it is a lost cause. I`ll rather bet on trying to get ready for a touchdown!
If the rest of the world knows about Billiy`s prophesies then how can you explain all the train accidents in the US without the funding and preparedness to avert asteroids,train wreck and so on when theses so-called reactionary pundits keep slashing budgets for war machines? What kind of excuse is that for endangering the lives of human beings in the US of A?”Where is accountability in the moral ethical vaules when an asteroid such as Apothis hits the Earth”?
Just pause for a moment and realize that the largest media empire in the world the Drudge report , was started by a reporter that told the truth . He Emailed everyone on his personal mail list . They in turn Emailed their entire mail lists . Get it . We , together could bomb the entire topic , any topic from our small lil community in ONE DAY . Oh and BTW , the Drudge report reaches a quarter billion people in one day . With over a billion visits in a week . That is the equivalent of one eight of the total population of earth . Stop feeling so weak . The fuse starts now . DO IT .
I’m all for people being proactive, I asked time and time again.
It’s important to present the facts as we know them, no ranting or crazy talk, etc. Honestly, this is a good idea and I hope that others who interact here will indicate their interest and willingness, post suggestions, etc.
Matt Drudge saw a business opportunity and took it, let’s not pretend he’s going broke in exposing the “truth”.
Part of the digital revolution is to stream-line digital services that similarly happened with the industrial revolution and the creation of the supply-chain system. Drudge Report is essentially the digital format of that part of the supply-chain system as it becomes more efficient, digitally, to separate things businesses did completely under their own roofs (and their legions of workers that no longer have to be in one company). This puts pressures on the “old way” of doing things as things like screws become cheaper to make and afford for businesses and then the everyday person that can tap into this digital economics.
So all this talk on the hard core con-piracy shows make it seem like Earth Humanity is taking the reigns and getting the truth out is no different back in the day when the industrial revolution was making the every man’s lives better. The Truth of the matter is that news has been never before easier to disseminate (and clearly manipulate) as it has with this digital revolution. Hence, the world wide explosion of the con-piracy network and MMO UFO groups that rake in the rewards of the first time users of the digital supply chain.
Duke , thanks for your view point . Matt Drudge a newsperson 25 years ago did not agree at one time with the direction that Bill Clinton was taking the country and he knew too much. He was told that his information was too provocative for mainstream . So , being tamped down , he shared his ‘outlandish’ stories with his friends , just telling the truth.
So if you find technology is an issue , just tell those you know the truth .
Personally , I complain about my current sticking point. I am big into learning and every day it is an onslaught of knowledge I absorb. That being commented upon , I am a positive person and aspire to commit random acts of kindness whenever possible . Here is the thing …. Every action has an opposite yet equal reaction. Its a physics rule , a natural rule. In our time , we know a lot of negative is flexing right now , I just ask , Where is the positive here ? I joke and say its in the bank . I actually just realized , courtesy of Duke (Thank You ) that in reality , we have the positive , just as it is described . Where is it ? Its in you and me . In our minds , our hearts and our feelings and actions . We just do not see it right now . It is when we let it out and allow it to flow outward more that it will be realized .
Its in each and every one of us . Deep conceptual here , it exists in us , but if we do not involve it in the mix , does it go away without helping the cause when we pass or move on in the life cycle?
If that is the case we have a transfer of massive energy into the next life . Are those the ones that are so vibrant ? born with bank of positive or negative energy . Its a two way street . But that just expanded my mind a bit , hope it did yours too .
If we spend the positive today , we can offset the wrongdoing that has overcome our current world . Now mathematics comes into play . If you are evil and you create a nuclear mess , articles of the disaster can cast problems for a very long time . Is their a multiplication factor here ? And how does that equalize ?
I am going to create a word problem , like they offer in school in which we all experienced . So , I am born neutral . I have an action that causes a neuclear reactor to go into a meltdown . I destroy a facility a good part of a surrounding area , animals , flora , fauna and of course people .
Now this action lasts for a very long time . Back to our question . With every action has an opposite , yet equal reaction . Where is the point that this event becomes a neutral balance ?
So , I stirred the pot and hopefully made you think . Because we are in a state of emergency right now . Here and now . Today , this second. And personally , I feel it needs to start being countered with resistance . I know how to add microbes to soil to make desert land furtile, I know how to make energy free , supply all the clean water ever needed , recover the atmosphere , the ocean the food chain the genetic ability to live to be 140 although we should be able to find 500 plus . Travel to the furthest stars , be a part of the solution . It sounds crazy , but its true . Some ideas , implemented will get you killed , arrested and disappeared . Others will get you name smeared and you will be a walking joke .
We have the answers , we watch the destruction , we are looking for the will .
Every thing happens for a reason . If I hear another idiot say this , I will stop and grille them , because that is a part of the problem . Shit happens , because , its shit . Dumb happens , because its dumb . Every thing does happens and you have to learn as to why.
Have a plan , or just make sure you have your selfie stick , so when the SHTF , at least you have a good shot for your assbook , aghem , facebook page . Outgoing.
Exposing somebody’s dirty laundry like the Monica Lewinsky scandal under the Clinton Administration isn’t exactly my bar threshold for the “truth” in comparison to the weight the Meier material has and holds. Today, Mr. Drudge just links news articles from a variety of sources in his mind exposes the “truth” but is really a collection of news sources primary and foremost.
There is no real examination of the truth because that stuff is potentially dangerous to Mr. Drudge’s profits as the vast majority of Earth Humanity will question your truth as soon as you step un-apologetically on their “world view”. I have when I went about warning some folks about the giant East Coast Tsumani when Cumbre Vieja blows up and was plainly told “that’s never going to happen”, “what are YOU going to do”, “why should I believe you”, “you have no proof”, and the best one of them all “you should run for office”. In other words, if you believe it to be true, run for politics!
See that’s what happens when you hit the truth nerve, it really stings, and the excuses come out. Make no bones about it, YOU will be BLAMED when it does come true because you made them aware of it when they were happily ignorant of it. This is so because it is easier for them to remember you and quip something along the lines “you did nothing and you knew” forgetting the fact you’re a regular person that went through legions of people that shamelessly didn’t mind gossiping about being a conspirator.
It’s patently the same thing that happens with the UFO nuts like Steven Greer and Conpiracy wackos like Alexander Jones or their legion of followers that bought their line, hook and sinker, and blame ME for pointing out things that makes their lives uncomfortable. After all, they must be an icon on Earth Humanity to shamelessly take these peoples monies and build themselves up to survive the future and un-apologetically leave the rest of Humanity to die out in the cold because they think of themselves above their fellowmen. This is true because the former has a fanciful view of his mission in life being chosen and the latter because everyone else are morons or stupid folks. As the saying goes, a stupid person is one that calls other people stupid.
On top of that, you can’t have a healthy wave-lenght to think properly without the piece (or peace) of mind that food will be there, a roof over your head, and a job to work towards. The digital revolution I speak of potentially has the ability to create massive unemployment and no way out or advancement from “traditional” way of doing things. That’s the reality and truth of the matter of future we are heading to, a future where your lively hood no longer matters keeping civilization going thanks to a handful of few that took advantage of the over population boon before it goes bust. There will be massive pressure against population just by the very fact most people have clearly shown they can’t work well together under pressure and in close proximity since they no longer have fruitful arguments but my personal “world view” is righter than yours.
It’s all in the Meier material and part of the prophecy. I am pretty close to marking that one off as “true” just via my own experience on the matter both in this country and over seas. I don’t see how the alleged PJs could EVER convince EH to realize the chasm they are in.
Oh, I should point out professional articles done by Forbes about “Uberizing” which seems to be the new buzz word. Interesting read here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/10/27/lets-uberize-the-entire-economy/
Of course, had they realized they already uberized the economy with illegal immigrants pulling wages down, also mentioned in the Meier material, then we can see the results of where this is going as we spiral down.
Do not trouble yourself with the preparation of soil or worry yourself over toiling over the land. There is always time for this. Extra-terrestrials have very little to do with what is happening and what will happen. Sometimes, silence is golden, yet we are still thrust into the rush of it because this is the game we all want to play still. This moment is so precious, yet so meaningless. All and none makes the whole.
That’s all very nice I’m sure and, as I will inform any and everyone else, that was your last post under a screen name. Buck up and post under your real name from here on.
As Billy said “Don`t put a User Name on your name,Email,Phone Number because that is lying to the public and not telling the truth when you Sign Up Log On to such accounts as facebook, twitter,tumbler, instigram and so on. Better to be honest by using your real name and Email address otherwise Billy says you`re hiding something from the public. People need to know who you are.
P.S. I`m a lover of ballet so I recently came of with a user name Swan Queen which is unique but after I read that Billy said “DON`T use a user screen name I had to dump that screen name because Billy said using a user or screen name is hiding yourself and your identity and that would be lying to the public on who you are.
To get back on topic with the Red Meteor / Apophis:
I see there is mention among the sceptics that because the orbit of Apophis is within our solar system that it disproves Quetzal’s saying that it came into our system for the first time. The facts are: Apophis was discovered in 2004, and its orbit calculated in 2005-6 according to reports I have read from a search on “Apophis orbit”. What is to prevent Apophis arriving sometime between the 1980s and 2003-4 and then being captured into orbit around our sun by the sun and/or bodies within the solar system? One could just as easily argue that the orbit supports Quetzal’s words since our scientists knew nothing of Apophis before discovering it. Also, if it has/had always been in its present orbit how come it wasn’t discovered earlier since it would be coming past the earth every 7-8 years, is a sizeable fellow, and we have good detection systems for nearby objects? Doesn’t this actually support what Quetzal said?
Chris at 7:59: I don’t know what you’re talking about and MH barred Andy from commenting.
Please stop distorting my position. Andy was asked questions that he refused to answer, both about himself and substantiating his claims that Meier hoaxed ANYTHING. His refusal – after hundreds of posts, plenty of opportunities, exhausted my patience.
That’s it.
I don’t think I’m distorting your position. You did bar him. True, I didn’t explain how that came to happen. I didn’t think I was required to. The fact remains that you barred him.
He was told that he could post responses to the aforementioned, so he barred himself, at least until such time as he does.
I must have missed something along the way, Andy has to do with this in what way?
Chris that is a good point that you brought up here and a good observation. If the Asteroid/comet has been orbiting within the sun and the planets within our solar system all this time why was it only discovered in 2004 by the scientists? The answer is it must have entered into our space in the recent decade or so as claimed by the Plejaren? The next question would be when did the Near-Earth-Object Program begin?
ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal
The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.
NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet’s nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans. According to documents released by Snowden, “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state “is to create an enemy near its borders”.
Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech
ISIL seen as non-Islamic cult by Mideast intelligence services
Middle Eastern intelligence services have reported that they believe that the so-called “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant,” or ISIL, also known as “Islamic State” and “Islamic State of Iraq and Sham,” is actually a quite non-Islamic cult developed by Israel and the Central Intelligence Agency and funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar to destabilize the entire Middle East and beyond.
So I ask…Is a 300,000 person international army that would ultimately feed into the Military Industrial Complex really the smart way to go?
Or should we attack the funding mechanisms of the 3 letter agencies that pay these crisis actors.
For example, DHS’s Pureheart that was funded by 3 illegal transfer of $5T each from the Federal Reserve. Below is a transcript of Lord James Blackheath speech in the Lords that documented this theft of funds for these off-balance sheet black programs like the creation of ISIS. The response from America…CRICKETS
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81988787/Transcript-of-Lord-James-2-16-2012
Or the off ledger accounts that fund these projects, through Deutsch Bank’s illegal highjacking of the platform trading programs. These platform trading programs can earn 100% in 14 days. How much chaos does that fund for Bush Sr. and his handlers when you have trillions to play with.
Shut down the funding and you shut down ISIS. No more death and destruction.
Peace and Intelligence is the right way. The world does not need another standing army.
The information about the ISIS leader may or may not be true but it isn’t particularly relevant at the moment.
And when you say, “Or should we attack the funding mechanisms of the 3 letter agencies that pay these crisis actors.” just what “we” are you talking about?
It’s beyond obvious that all of the conspiracy people, all of the people who talk about the “elite”, etc., are themselves not in the position to do a darn thing about the big picture. The call for the fighting force was based on a reality, an inescapable one that unless those in charge who DO have the power to bring such a force together to fight the IS, the world will be plunged deeper into what will be an unimaginable turmoil and, as the Plejaren stated, possibly be sent back to the Dark Ages.
Not neccessarily, MH. Jameson has a point, as do you, but there is not enough data to generate a conclusion.
On one hand, Jameson is correct in that ISIS became a threat, and persists as a threat, due to the funding that it received from the West.
It is fair to say that a threat can be removed by attacking it directly, or by attacking the means by which it is sustained.
On the other hand, MH may be correct, in that ISIS may have already received enough funding from the West so as to become financially self sustaining. Hence, attacking the funding mechanism will likely slow, but not destroy them.
Which of these is correct? Unknown.
Jameson is right to think about the cause of ISIS, rather than merely dealing with the effect.
The West is controlled by complete lunatics. If you do not think about the cause, then it is likely that the same interests that created ISIS in the first place will sabotage any peacekeeping force – which is happening right now, if what I have read is correct, where nations such as Russia have proposed an intervention, that is being blocked by Western warmongers.
Disunity is killing this world, imo.
My point is that while we can point out the things that are wrong with, that may have caused, the big picture, it’s time now for people to focus on contributing more to the solution…at the levels that they have access to. Sending info to media, friends that are interested, etc., as was also suggested by David in one of his comments.
It has been my experience that if you simply tell people what to do, for example “build international peacekeeping force”, then their eyes mostly glaze over and they do not do it – no matter how sensible. Alternatively, they agree that it is a good idea, and then sit back waiting for someone else to do it.
If, on the other hand, you explain what is going on so as to help those people think their way to the inevitable sensible outcome, then they just might act.
For perspective, I live in a military kind of city, can speak to the local parliamentarians, and have done so. I have mentioned sensible things for them to do, and have found no fertile ground. I did, however, have far more success when I explained to them, at length, what the different issues were, and why what I was saying was sensible.
It seems to be part of present psychology that if people do not own an idea, they will not push forward with it. Ownership requires greater understanding.
Hence, talking about peripheral issues is likely a good idea – so long as people are informing others as they would have done, as you say.
That’s my thought process, anyway.
Going to have to disagree here as there isn’t enough money in the world that can pay a 300K army the way ISIS runs things. If anyone actually read some of the comments revealed by ISIS fighters themselves is that apparently the society is running on a semi-total war footing where certain things, like vehicles, are only allowed on permit to have but can be purposed for fighting at any moment.
“The human being first has to learn to accept and tolerate reality before he can be open to it and is able to work out its beneficial worth.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Acceptance_and_Tolerance
Money, class, limited availability/lawful limitation of resources, evolution, education, comprehension, social system, competency, creative natural law limitations -location/geography -time/age/life length, comfort/worth/rest, prejudices.
In 2014, the USA sold $11 billion worth of arms to Qatar, which is the main funder of ISIS. This should raise some eyebrows.
“Guest”,
I now require people to use real names when posting. Please resubmit your posts in accordance with that.
Thanks.
MH,
Why not have Nate add something like “Depending on content, your post may not be approved if an obvious anonymity is used.” next to the “Leave a Reply” button, to avoid wasting everyone’s time in this process since this is becoming a policy?
Rob,
That’s a good idea. I would probably drop the “depending on content”, as it isn’t about only posting comments that agree with a certain p.o.v.
Thanks.
MH
Everything evolves or devolves. Groups funded often evolve into something other than what the funders intended. Sometimes they just have to go out and deconstruct or take out their creations. Financiers and funders are not always successful in getting what they planned.
Duke , you are a very intelligent man . I do not hold any kind of ‘allegiance’ to any news source , but , as far as Alex Jones goes , he is tight . Might have religious ties , but to me so what . I go for the facts and the meat . Next is this little gem about planet x and Niburu speak . I will just shoot the link here .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdkdPdB_gdI
Just some footage real time of the possible issue . I can see the mindset behind a blackout of this thing. Because I have seen a blackout of so much information at this point . The Plejaran spoke of our asteroid belt and how it was the remains of Malona and the moon collision . That is a mess , finally just stabilized in orbit in a sense . Imagine the same . The destroyer that Billy talks about is to me what this is , because its so large and a planet . However , the times and dates , and the simple cycle of revisitation does not make sense . BUT , the footage shows its here , its close and I wonder what IS the orbit path . In making it simple , we have a lot of awesome tools on this planet to get to the bottom of things . We have a lot of special interests that keep the truth from us . That alone should make us very uptight . My rule is inspect what you expect . Simple . That’s why I mentioned Duke as being very valid . He does that . Chris Locke , well he is hyper example of it , and thank you . Michael is the total package here regarding that statement and beyond . I actually present my Son with Michaels work as an example conduct in life . Thanks for that MH , but is this real ? Chris , I think you may have the best intel . Considering much is very cloaked in secrecy . I have been told the military and inside package is so insanely kept under wraps that its almost , almost impossible to believe .
Just a note to remind, because I’m traveling comment approvals may lag up to a day or two.
Thanks,
The Mismanagement
Mr. Alexander Emmerich Jones shops in Dunkle Donuts along with such memorable folks like Mr. Steven M. Greer. After all, I’m not sure what it is other than the assumption of mass support of another “world view” that intentionally caters to folks that know the ship isn’t being steered properly for their own personal needs but can’t really put their finger on it as they’re oblivious to the fact of what state their society is in.
Mr. Jones’ service provides folks with the conspiratorial confidence that something can be “done” for a variety of ills in their society as much as a used car sales man looking to home in on a sale claiming the certified pre-owned car is guaranteed to last to a number of years or mileage driven. At the end of the day, it is apparently missed that none of what Mr. Jones’ solutions actually do anything as the core of the problem isn’t addressing anything but surrounding like minded folks into a giant complaint mess.
It is unmistakeable this is the fact with the way he treats his stack of news as the literal biblical evidence par excellence with his two cents thrown into the mix in a long winded tirade the Soviet Union wished they hadn’t collapsed as early as they did to take advantage of it. If that was not enough, the legions of entertainment celebrities, whose sole purpose in life is for fame and rewards for their “talents”, goes on and on about his stuff lock-step as if that would trans-substantiate (holy Eu-charist style) and elevate his nutty explanations an iota of credibility. At the end of the day, you’re left to judge whether it is accurate or not since I don’t recall anyone went to jail for any of the things he has spoken of. But that is OK, we have the legions of callers that call in and say “God Bless you Alex Jones” with the reply “I hear you brother” that we’re all in this together in support (so long as you donate him money).
Of course, there are cracks that reveal themselves over time such as his complete support of such characters as David Icke and another Jones that alleges to have debunked Dr. Judy Wood. Mr. Alex Jones even so far as to almost have had an aneurism when Jesse Ventura brought up Dr. Wood’s evidence on the show trying to steer clear from his show this type of content. Don’t even bother bringing up UFO subject, but everything else is gravy for Mr. Alex Jones.
He is tight alright being spoon-fed the wrong information when the reality of the situation is explained very clearly in the Meier material thanks to the efforts of such folks to even translate the stuff into English (thank you Dyson and Vivian) and allow us to discuss it here (thank you Mike). After all, regardless of whatever Mr. Jones or Mr. Greer suggest what Dreamland is, consider that when you do sleep and are in a dream state, you tend to tell or react 100% truth to whatever your conscious being happens in your dreams. Imagine if your dreams can be “steered” like the ship I brought up earlier in this thread.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_034
Makes one think a bit clearer that something else is going on here.
I sent the Meier material regarding David Icke and conspiracy theories to infowars and and suggested they ask David Icke for comment. I also recommended having Michael Horn on as a guest to discuss this matter and other relevant topics.
I saw an interesting video by Chris Duane – truthnevertold on youtube, that asked viewers to google Alex Jones and Stratfor. So I did and found out there were ex-Stratfor people hired at infowars. Next I googled Stratfor and Billy Meier – lo and behold, Wikileaks published hacked email content. Among that content was the intrepid Michael Horn sending the relevant Meier material facts to Stratfor saying “this is important guys, check it out”.
After learning all this I sent infowars another email asking them to have someone from Stratfor on to talk about the Meier material or if they aren’t available, consider having Michael Horn as a guest to discuss Meier and relevant topics.
My conclusion: infowars and Stratfor are aware of the Meier material and they aren’t going to openly talk about it anytime soon.
CS (I normally post under curlymoses [nickname due to my curly hair]
Alex Jones has journalistically exposed some things, but always with his own political twist. David Icke can be considered a programmed operative of Ashtar Sheran, who is still doing his work even though Ashtar Sheran died long ago, because it is all stored in his subconscious mind. The truth is that although conspiracies are just about ubiquitous, many of these are bungles by those consciously doing them, as the real “conspiracy” is in the collective subconscious and is done by the antilogos, which illusorily appears to be “Satan” or an evil alien race, etc, when in truth it is the collective pseudo-entity generated by the negative or illogical thinking of terrestrial human beings, and nothing more.
In regards to Nibiru or planet X. Be careful. Those YouTube prophets can be quite convincing. Our access to software for CGI is plentiful and widely used to create false information. I have fallen for several of them myself during my quest for truth. I will say that since that was filmed by a small news station, it is interesting and not so quickly to be ignored. similarly, The Stories about the “Strange sounds” in the skies being heard all over the planet and recorded by citizens and news channels has me concerned a bit. I can’t explain it but its odd that so many people have recorded those sounds. I have my own idea of what those sounds are but Its to far off subject in this discussion category. The comet Ison situation had me all worried because of the YouTube prophets posting pretty convincing data. After learning about billy and lots of reading I have come to my senses about such things and so now for an example, we can see that any worries about Ison was all for nothing. So. be wise and careful. There is a con man every five feet on this planet but lets also not forget that the P’s said to billy that in many cases the conspiracy theorist are closer to the truth then most others. Enjoy life everyone. Its oh so short.
With honour and respect to those concerned about the future eastern European meteor in north america, I politely question why, on any level. No one in the history of english speakers has ever given a toss about eastern europe, they’re problems and the russian people, our kind of temperate climate human being has never been compatible, to word it politely. We had all that fuss with the german people too in the last century. I recommend you just get on with your life, forget about it, until its on the evening news in 2036, half of europe now looks like a volcano grand canyon, and then a couple of years later, maybe 2038 buy some helicopter tickets half price for your families weekend amusement pleasure.
I’ll not comment on your comments but, as I’ve advised other anonymous people, from here on please use your real name.
Thanks.
Don`t forget that Billy said so or else you are hiding your real name behind afacade( hiding brhind a curtain). So much for my wanting to use the user name “Swan Queen”:)))
Let’s remember that “Billy said so” isn’t the real point but rather that we need to simply be who we are and get away from this insidious, stupid, cowardly masquerade. We need to also remember that the “powers that be” already know who everyone is. So from whom are we hiding when we use screen names and pretend to be someone, and something, that we’re not?
NOTE from MH regarding why this post by “Guest” isn’t appearing here:
In keeping with the example and standard set by Meier and FIGU, and out of respect for the value of courageous conduct in these ever challenging times, I’m requiring of those who post here their real names, something which used to generally be taken for granted and which has now become ever more rare since the existence of the internet and all of the various illusions, self-deceptions, etc., that have resulted from a variety of things, including the weakening of personal character.
So there is in fact nothing personal, nor discriminatory towards any individual in particular in requiring that we reintegrate ourselves with our true identities wherever we may have allowed ourselves to find comfort in effectively lying to and about ourselves.
Be proud of who you are. The best way to “combat” the “powers that be”, etc., isn’t to protest in the streets, it’s to set the example of fearlessness in our everyday, ordinary lives, through simple acts of self-honesty such as are also suggested here.
Thank you Michael. I think that’s a very good policy.
Guest
May 20, 2015 at 4:15 pm
There’s always one guest who wears out their welcome by saying stupid things: Eastern and western europe will be severely affected, including Germany, France and the home of the original “english speakers” England… good luck with your helicopter ride and “evening news” when the dollar collapses because all the US bases in allied Europe have fallen.
This is a question to David Scott and MH. I viewed the link David, Apophis is approx. 3.5 football fields wide. this bad boy seems to be a huge planet per the video. Have the P’s said anything about this that you both know of? I know Billy has not been a fan of Zach Sitchen. so what do we have here?
Thanks.
MF
It’s not a planet, it’s referred to as an asteroid. ANd the so-called Nibiru wasn’t a planet either, rather a comet, uninhabited, etc.