It’s just like in the movies, so what’s the problem?
If an advanced, space-traveling race were to try to warn us of a real, impending danger to our world and to do so without directly interfering in it, how might they go about it?
Just like in the movies, might they take a very calculated approach and insert just enough information – and controversy – into our awareness so as to prompt at least a few thinking people to pay attention and delve into it?
In the movies there’s usually some kind of a cryptic message, mathematical formula, or (only in the movies) a radio signal. And some intrepid person, scientist or otherwise (think Richard Dreyfuss) gets about the task of unscrambling or deciphering the message that will ultimately reveal to humanity that…we are not alone.
So why can’t real life be just like the movies to the extent that scientists involved in the search for extraterrestrial life would display at least as much curiosity and interest in following up on any such evidence. But what even remotely comparable evidence is there, one might ask?
Well we’ve been publishing the evidence and information in the Meier case for years, as well as sending it to any and all scientists, journalists, publications, news outlets, forums, etc., as we can. While there are some courageous, highly credible scientific experts who’ve analyzed, corroborated and authenticated it, the mainstream…everything has remained comfortably non-responsive. But at what cost to all of us?
The Red Meteor aka Asteroid Apophis
One specific example is the information from Meier and the Pleajren about what they called the Red Meteor, aka asteroid Apophis. Starting in 1981, they warned about this object coming towards Earth and the need for our scientists to come together to deflect it from it’s trajectory.
Naturally, the know-it-alls were dismissive of the information, citing the always infallible NASA to reassure us that Apophis was really nothing to worry about. Sure, NASA changed its estimate of the actual size of Apophis to within 25 meters of what Meier published but…so what? After all, we’re Americans and Americans are always right, right?
However, it actually does appear that Meier’s warnings have been pursued, though not by US scientists, only those “nobodies” in Russia and China. While our scientists are busy creating various “initiatives” and other public relations exercises, the Chinese and Russians have gone about the business of planning to deflect asteroid Apophis, as specifically recommended by the Plejaren.
Saving Face or Saving Lives?
The unspoken truth is that none of the mainstream scientists and organizations in the US actually expect to “discover” extraterrestrial life for a long time. There’s an underlying belief that it’s not “supposed to happen yet”.
Let’s take a moment to put things in perspective. Remember that all of the scientists of today, including at NASA, SETI, etc., were in the past just…students, sitting in college classrooms like today’s aspiring scientists are. Far from being any kind of all-knowing gods then either, they too were working hard to get their degrees, pursue higher learning and, in too many cases, also a falsely elevated status, celebrity standing, fame and fortune, etc. After all, it’s the…American way (and now in a few other places as well). Such self-seeking and profit motivated agendas do nothing good for humanity but I’m not so naïve as to think that it’s going to stop anytime soon, despite the great cost to our collective wellbeing.
So now that certain scientists have attained their long sought, expensively pursued positions and status, far, far too many of them are more concerned with not rocking the boat (read: loss of funding, tenure, so-called credibility, etc.). So there they sit, silently refusing to acknowledge, let alone comment on such matters as the voluminous, authenticated, corroborated evidence and information in the Meier case…even if it means that an asteroid actually will slam into the Earth. One might think that it’s their way of saying that they’d rather die than face the embarrassment of finding what they say they’re looking for. Maybe more correctly, they’d rather that other people die than risk their own vested interests.
People, make no mistake about it, this is exactly the kind of world we live in. This is exactly the to-be-expected result of the ever-increasing greedy selfishness, lack of self-honesty and integrity that has supplanted all such previously exalted human values. Unlike their on-screen counterparts, these scientists would rather…not be the ones who will forever be associated with the most important discovery in human history, the existence of extraterrestrial life – and its outreach to help humanity assure its own future survival.
Paint It Red
We speculated on the possible connection between the Red Meteor and the Torino Scale. In yet another interesting twist on the “red” component, Jeff Tan posted this information on our blog about how the “older rocks tend to be reddish (emphasis added) in these observations”:
“To know for certain whether this happens, astronomers will need to observe Apophis during its 2029 pass. Scientists age asteroids by surveying infrared light; older, weathered rocks tend to appear more reddish in these observations. If a high-quality spectrum can be obtained during the approach, it should be possible to compare the color of Apophis before and after its flyby, Bottke says. “When [Apophis] makes its pass, we’ll get to run the experiment. Whether it’s all solved or not we’ll have to find out.”
As Chris Lock also pointed out:
As to why NASA’s trajectory of Apophis is wrong: Apophis seems capable of landslides. These and chnages to its orbit as it approaches “the keyhole” on its flyby of Earth in 2029 could very likely result in a changed trajectory bringing it THEN onto a collision course with Earth. It is not made of ice so we are not looking at dissolved parts. It could be this is why Ptaah mentioned that Earth scientists need to be doing something asap as presumably after the flyby will be too late…Meier isn’t just predicting a meteor will “someday” hit the Earth: He is predicting its size, approximate date of arrival, specific point of impact, and resultant effects. Just a few important details you omitted. The US experiences hundreds of tornados a year. SInce when has the earth experienced hundreds of meteors a year?
Matthew Knight’s reasoning also bears consideration:
Quetzal: “Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.”
In CR 150, Billy and Quetzal state, as facts, that “humanity” will, not only, learn the identity of red meteor in the future (or what is the point of the warning?), but, they will receive further “words and warnings” (plural). One “red meteor” warning from this 1981 conversation would not constitute adequate warning that “humanity” “should” or could do anything about – even if they ultimately decide to “do not do” anything. So far, all the predictions, both, implied and stated, in that 1981 contact report, have come true!
Meier had an impossibly small window of time for scientists to identify a suitable NEO from 1981, that will pass close enough to Earth to be recognised as any kind of threat. Again, the identification of a suitable NEO would have to come before Meier’s death. After then, Billy would not be able to confirm any findings from astronomers, or, put flesh on the bones of Quetzal’s original warning so that it makes sense and becomes a set of “warnings” that mankind can “listen to”. Also, this NEO would have to be passing earth before the time that we are able to defend against all NEOs with future space technologies, say, in the year 2050 (according to timeframes of current NEO space projects). Therefore, in 1981, Meier’s window for this prediction to come true was 1981 – circa 2050.
In 1991, the earliest known publication date, no known NEOs were expected to come close to Earth. Even though Apophis was spotted 13 years later and was initially a high-risk threat, no NEOs since are expected to threaten earth before 2050. Everything Billy and Quetzal discussed in 1981 about the “future” time – where mankind knows about this meteor and can do something about it – has been proven to be true. Why, then, doubt Billy’s accuracy about the remainder of that prediction if impossible odds were involved? Meier’s warning has been explicit and consistent since 1981 whilst astronomers have disagreed about the size of the object, even following Ptaah’s estimate of 350 metres in CR 475. Scientists have also been unable to agree how close Apophis will pass to the Earth and the changing calculations continue whilst the Plejaren have said the same thing since 1981.
What we have above is certainly “speculative” but one would say that it’s every bit as good, thoughtful and compelling as anything from a science fiction movie, especially when one actually does examine Meier’s record of voluminous, accurate scientific information. Of course our distinguished scientists are not yet deigning to comment about Meier’s warnings – certainly none have yet attempted to refute or, equally telling, debunk it.
So will the “kids” who sat in those classrooms years ago, who now have academic positions and initials after their names, etc., end up being shown up by “ordinary” people who’ve taken the self-responsibility to try to make a difference in the world, who aren’t so concerned about loss of face as they are abut loss of lives, will they…grow up, show up and do their jobs and maybe then get their sought after book and movie deals, reality show, or whatever else they really lust after?
SETI Sent Evidence of ET Contact by They Fly Productions
New Confirmation of Billy Meier’s Warnings about Apophis
New NASA Discovery: The Earth Is Round!
Russian Meteor a Warning to Prevent Apophis Impact
The Adventures of Billy Meier Web-Comic
Goblet of the Truth Now Available!
NOTE: International shipping may cost more than indicated.
We now have this magnificent new book, the entire teaching of the prophets, with both the German and English in a beautiful hardcover edition.
To launch it, here’s a special offer for the attentive:
Get the Goblet of the Truth and the Might of the Thoughts and we’ll send you either the Spiritual Teaching in Everyday Life, And Did They Listen?, as the time fulfills, The Silent Revolution of Truth DVD, or The Meier Contacts – The Key to Our Future Survival– your choice. Just indicate which one you want with your order.
That’s a $25 value absolutely FREE when you buy both books.
Thanks to Jeff Tan, Matthew Knight and Chris Lock
Hi Michael
I know my question is unrelated with this topic…But I was wondering if Bashar (Darryl Anka) is a legit channeler or not? I am asking this because Billy never mentioned anything about this person and he has been channeling for a long while..
-Thanks
Hi KT,
Meier has said that all channelers are fake, i.e. there are NO extraterrestrials, or other “entities” channeling through them. Channeling is a form of self-induced schizophrenia, as I recall.
I saw a number of Bashar changelings in the 1980s-90s. They were entertaining but completely devoid of anything of real substance.
P.S. As I’ve advised other anonymous people, from here on please use your real name.
Thanks.
You are treading on thin ice with your egoistic commentary. You are going too far with this and you have little understanding what is actually occurring. You had better learn to think for yourself. This is NOT what was intended. You speak of reality, yet with every utterance, you denounce it. Be careful how you steer this. I am concerned for your sanity at this point. You speak very little about your own feelings and more of one you know nothing purely truthful of. You must have your own mind, not just followers. You will immediately feel attacked, but after logical thought, you will see truth in my words.
Perhaps, now that you’ve had your opportunity to pontificate and presume to know things that “you know nothing pure truthful of”, you’ll try to actually explain what you’re talking about.
You have essentially created a new religion for yourself or you know exactly what you are doing. I’m not sure how to take you anymore, whether you are actually serious. It’s all too easy to say the end in eminent, but how do you know this? Can you prove it? You seem to openly close yourself off to everything that does not meet a predetermined standard that has been handed you. I’m seriously curious now. What are you trying to convey to people? If you would, please respond without doing the normal tit for tat as that is boring. How do you want to proceed, what is it that you want people to do about these things you seemingly feel so passionate about? What is your plan for Humanity and how do you propose we proceed and how do you know you’re correct? Put yourself in the position of a person who is new to all of this if you will please.
Your assessment is incorrect about any new “religion”. Since there are no beliefs, rituals, dogma, hierarchy, recruiting, find raising, heave, hell, waits, saviors, etc., etc., you’d need to substantiate your opening premise, which you can’t.
However, the answer lies in the spiritual teaching, which encompasses quite a lot. I’t based on complete self-respinsibility, seeing things exactly as they are, neutral-positive thinking, understanding the law of causality, the might of the thoughts, etc.
Each person must determine for themselves the what and how of it though there are clear recommendations, advice, suggestions, etc. It’s a teaching that one studies, applies and tests in their own life and consciousness. BTW, the idea that “the end in eminent” implies things that may or may not apply. The end of somethings is always part of the cycle of life and there are things that also begin, etc.
If these things you mention “may or may not apply,” then why include them with a sense of such urgency? Here’s the the pinch as it were. If I propose something to you that you find unbelievable, you will immediately scoff at it and demand proof of what I say. Now, my response to you would be, “It’s up to you whether you believe me or not.” Do you not see the immediate dilemma that has arisen? My point is anyone can claim anything and that’s ok too, it doesn’t necessarily mean that those claims are false. But if one must rely on the words of one Human alone for their guidance, then one has misunderstood everything even before they begin. I am no stranger to strangeness but nonetheless few things change. I wish I could tell you something, but it is for me alone. I’m not trying to be edgy or mysterious, it just is. Not everything is as we think. I only hope that through the remaining days we have left here in this time, that we begin to see as we once did. Just because one sees the future does not necessarily equate to an understanding of it. I hope people use caution as they journey forward.
Meier’s track record of accuracy’s such that his information warrants serious consideration. And there’s nothing to “believe”, only to think through and come to one’s own determination.
Well, the thing is that we’re not here, at least as far as I can see, just to politely debate a ‘what if’ believe what you will touchy feely session. Meier has a LOT of things to say that may really challenge the way people view certain things. We all do, in a way, contribute our part having to live in a world where such things like the Mother of all Lemons, also called UFO subject, fascinates people like they did since the disco era while trying to make sense of it all. Of course, if anyone read the Meier material they would know how such junky science lab craft don’t match up to the real deal ET craft.
Makes one think about the bigger picture of things.
Based on Wikipedia definitions, I argue that this is a religion. A religion is “…an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.” Meier’s “religion” is organized, it has cultural components and it certainly espouses specific world views and an order of existence.
Regarding the beliefs part: A belief is “…a mental representation, treated in various academic disciplines, especially philosophy and psychology, of a sentient being’s attitude toward the likelihood or truth of something.” Many people on this site have an attitude toward the truth of what Meier has said and written.
How does the totality of Meier stuff not equate to a religion based on the definitions above?
You’re off the mark from the very beginning. Obviously, if you understood the difference between beliefs, religion, etc. (and their “organization”), and a teaching for which one is solely themselves responsible for reading, testing, applying, determining for themselves, etc., the screaming clarity of the difference would be deafening.
I see you have enabled domain verification for posting, slightly paranoid don’t you think? Do you honestly think it makes any difference who I am? Search yourself, not me. You have everything in you already, you do not require someone to tell you how to live. Good luck. Much more is out there than what one man has claims upon.
Thanks for a comment that presumes everything and says nothing.
Tony.
The hippies in the 60’s/70’s used an open mind, peace to the world type approach and no one called that a New Religion. Your confusing “an awareness” for a religion. Those types of people, like myself, who practice survival skills and work towards getting off the “grid” and finding peace by walking away from the ways of the world. Are those people practicing a religion ? Or people who choose all nature health remedies. Are they practicing a religion ? Or people who attack other peoples belief like you do. why isn’t that call a religion as well. Tony. If you don’t agree with our way of thinking then why are you here ? I don’t follow Satanic worshipers so you don’t see me hanging out with them. Its pretty easy to figure out Tony. Birds of a feather flock together and your cruising with Eagles here.
David AKA Watchdog – USA
I’ll add that dissenting views are welcome but it’s helpful to substantiate such claims about the teaching being a religion, etc.
Please excuse the dupe if you have already seen this or if it was posted here before. Whilst unrelated to Apophis, thought to share with you all: http://act.credoaction.com/sign/obama_dont_drill_arctic?nosig=1&t=1&akid=14441.8879034.BPzXym
Red symbolizes that which is a determined consequence, i.e. a kinetic energy as opposed to a potential energy. Also, although landslides, etc, may be involved, I consider that mental forces predominantly account for the extremely precise trajectory of this meteor straight into the line of division between the EU and Russia. This is “Lucifer’s Hammer” resp. mjölnir and is attracted by the corresponding thinking of Europeans. If one closely observe the news, one will find that most events are not just the result of mechanical causes, but quite often, attractive forces (symbolism, etc) play just as significant if not more significant a role. Just watch for events that are in symbolic sympathy with an asteroid-collision, such as people being struck by lightning, falling from cliffs, or being struck by falling debris, and then compare the names, times, etc. The subconscious mind apparently already knows that this will happen.
Forget it.
A sort of “mental magnet” to attract an Iron core meteor?
Yes, which I think Billy would explain as either psychokinesis or mental fluidal forces. Whatever the precise mechanism, these sorts of subconscious forces are at work every day, and since they travel at the speed of light, pervade the entire solar-system.
These mental resp. cosmic forces probably factor into the “red” Plejaren calculation, i.e. a certain impact (8, 9 or 10 on the Torino Scale), in contrast to the smaller probability calculated by American astronomers. However, the Americans might also just be minimizing the threat in order to avoid panic.
I think this is one reason that Billy has published his extensive book of names – because of the symbolic might of names to produce these psychokinetic resonances and bizarre “coincidences” resp. omens. The subconscious mind evolved only to aid our survival, so it is perfectly logical but barbaric and animalistic in its thinking. Therefore, as it is able through its double intelligence to collate the knowledge of astronomers throughout the world studying this asteroid, it becomes quickly aware of the danger, and warns us, as the subconscious mind evolved to, by killing or injuring people in strange and symbolic ways. For example, in relation to asteroid-symbolism, on 27 July 2014, a man named Ommy Irizarry and his daughter Oceana were struck by a crash-landing plane on the beach in Venice Beach, Florida at 14:40. On the exact same day at 14:20 in Venice Beach, California, a man wading at the beach named Nick Fagnano was struck by lightning. Oceana and Ommy relate to Atlantis, or a sunken land, i.e. what will happen to eastern Europe if the red meteor strikes. Fagnano was an Italian mathematician who solved the problem to find the triangle of smallest perimeter inside another triangle, which is the orthic triangle = the path of least action. Then at 15:50 on 1 May 2015 a boy named Brian Tena Cardenas in Aurora, Colorado was struck by lightning. At exactly the same time of day (15:50 local time) and on the same day in Portland, Oregon, a man named Jacob Bradley accidentally fell to his death from a 150-foot-high cliff called Rocky Butte. On 16 May 2015 at 13:30, a woman named Stephanie Anderson accidentally fell from the 150-foot high cliff in North Carolina called King’s Pinnacle. All of these events relate symbolically to the sinking of Atlantis by a meteor-strike as well as the “fall from heaven” of Lucifer. The most popular book on the subject of a meteor-impact is called Lucifer’s Hammer. Thor-symbolism, i.e. Lucifer with a hammer, has been very active recently. For example, there was yet another school shooting at another Thurston (Thor-stone) high school in Washington, and a man on flacca told police he was the Norse god Thor while running amok in Florida. Then, on 17 May 2015 at 11:05, a girl named Greta Green was struck to death while sitting on a bench by a piece of falling terra cotta window-sill off a building called the Esplanade in New York City. This was at the corner of 11th and 74th, both summing to 2, which means a determined consequence. The girl’s grandmother sitting next to her on the bench was named Susan Frierson. The girl’s name can be interpreted as “Great Green”, while her granmother’s name means “Lily, daughter of the ice”. Terra cotta literally means cooked earth, i.e. a flaming rock. A window-sill is something you look out through at the external world, i.e. the atmosphere. The grandmother’s name relates to the ice-age and the granddaughter’s name relates to the present interglacial period. At the time that she was struck dead, the Kuiper-belt object Varuna was rising on the east-point (the actual “ascendant”, i.e. due east). Varuna is the Hindu god of water, depicted riding on a crocodile. In Lazaro CARDENAS Mexico on 20 May 2015, a boy was eaten by a crocodile while playing with a balloon. Earlier on 8 May 2015, an alligator caused a deadly traffic-accident in Louisiana. Ammit is an Egyptian goddess depicted with a crocodile-head who symbolizes the fatal punishment of the unjust and the foolish. Overall these symbols can be collated to reveal the meaning that an asteroid is going to “fall from heaven” like Lucifer’s Hammer, or Thor’s mjölnir, and “punish” the Europeans and Russians, as well as create a new sea. The location is indicated in numerous omens that I won’t get into that relate to the west as well as Venus (e.g. Venice), all indicating that this meteor will strike the prototypical West, i.e. Europe.
I should probably also mention the recent shootout at the TWIN PEAKS (two continents, i.e. formation of a new continent, or a division between the “mountains”) bar and grill involving a biker-gang called the Bandidos (= Europeans) and one called the Cossacks (= Russians), as well as the Cossacks’ lesser allies, the Scimitars (= Iran). 9 were killed, 18 were injured. There were 18 SWAT-officers on scene. All of these numbers mean 18 = 666. This is more an omen of the possibility of a war between Russia and Europe than of an asteroid-impact, but it shows possibly the motivation for these barbaric “Thor”-forces of the collective subconscious, i.e. they want to destroy the “pests” that threaten the whole world with nuclear war.
By the way, this is what I mean when I say that most conspiracy-theories are non-sense – because they often misinterpret the effects of the subconscious mind as supposed conscious conspiracies, while really these are the “magic” of the subconscious and not a conscious manipulation. Also, this is probably what Billy means by “the truth seems too banal”, i.e. the real “conspiracies” occur in seemingly mundane or insignificant places in the form of symbolism and the like – things most people just ignore, forgetting that an individual life means as much to the subconscious collectively as it does individually.
And if you think that my description of these “Thor”-forces wreaking fatal revenge on Europe and Russia for failing to make peace and threatening the world with nuclear war sounds too harsh, inhumane or unscientific, heed the words of Quetzal himself:
“Quetzal:
497. You know very well, that this will be the case and that we are not allowed to halt this event.
498. The cosmic powers have pre-programmed this event, which could only be stopped or prevented by Earth humanity themselves.
499. In their materialistic and misled disunity and in their megalomania, however, they disregard all warnings and prophecies, so that what is going to happen is probably inevitable, as an admonition and punishment, if you want to see it that way.
500. And as this warning and vengeance must occur, we are not allowed to take any steps in order to prevent the occurrence.
501. Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.
502. You stand in a lost position, like one calling in the wilderness, and only few are and will be willing to listen to your words, to grasp their meaning, to reflect about them and to learn how to act correctly.
503. Those who will not listen will find death in exchange, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava, if the prophecy should be fulfilled in its entire proportions which, however, has not been determined in its final consequence.”
Or it could mean that a bunch of dopey bikers got into a brawl and had to be…Swatted.
Weeeeeeeeell…maybe, maybe not. If one thinks about such things as the aforementioned coinciding events, etc., they maybe (no pun intended) struck by the fact that out of 8.5 billion people in the world, a couple of people here and there were involved (or so it’s said) in coinciding events.
So zillions of times no such rolls of the dice produce these things and when they do perhaps we make far too much out of it, attribute too much meaning and significance that otherwise either isn’t there, or isn’t noticed, or produced nothing more significant than an, “Oh, that was strange, must mean something.” Perhaps the example given of the alligator means that it was unjust and VERY foolish to be playing in traffic.
That’s the usual Michael Shermer explanation, but if one really looks at the cosmic meaning of these “coincidences”, one finds that they are absolutely pointing at the same meanings. It is just a matter of collating the coincidences and symbolism of the subconscious and thinking about their meaning in terms of the fact that the subconscious mind is incapable of illogic, and communicates in universal symbols, as it evolved out of our need to survive. Basically the symbol and resonance in the subconscious mind is what suggests to these psychopaths or susceptible/suggestible people to fulfil these events. There is really no “god” involved, but only the collective subconscious, but people following their impulses without control, or worshipping an imaginary god, &c, make themselves victims of its communications.
The law of cause and effect is always in play and if we have the abilities necessary we can probably discern more about the how and why of certain events. We often tend to give other meanings to things because we don’t have those abilities in sufficient measure and it’s easier to attribute more mystical “meanings” to them than may be the case. Again, with more than 8 billion people on the planet, each one churning out mostly unconsciously created thoughts, feelings and actions there will be a lot of “coincidences” occurring that catch someone’s attention, rather than us perhaps being amazed at the relatively small number of them…and the so far lacking, scientifically corroborated meanings and effects that are attributed to them.
I recommend reading the master of social work Loren Coleman’s blog The Copycat Effect (copycateffect.blogspot.com). He has compiled a whole lot of these symbolic “coincidences” (what he calls twilight language), providing proof beyond a reasonable doubt that these are a significant, if not the main factor behind such events as public mass murders and suicides.
I think that while it may be an interesting article, in terms of the topic that this may be a bit removed but perhaps someone who is interest in perusing it will report back.
I have observed in my own studies of these events that every single person who succumbs to these mental forces is either a suggestible, impulsive psychopath, suicidal and depressed, or devoutly religious. I theorize therefore that the devoutly religious activate psychokinetic forces through their belief in “god”, the psychopaths respond without thinking to impulsive suggestions to kill or do outlandish things, and the suicidal partly consciously choose symbolically meaningful places and times to die.
Again, the topic is Apophis and I think that this other element isn’t really relevant to it.
I think it is because these symbolic “coincidences” show that the subconscious is already aware of the imminent impact of Apophis in 2036. This means that either scientists somewhere have already obtained certainty of an impact and are covering it up, or that there is also an element of attraction by mental forces which is determining the trajectory of Apophis through attraction rather than just landslides or other tidally-related forces, thereby increasing the probability of an impact to a determined certainty rather than a matter of chance.
MH at 8:27: well put
The Plejaran have said that the crop circles in England are being created by an inner-earth dwelling civilization of ET’s (or at least this is implied). Could we hear more about these people and their role as inhabitants of the earth? Are they planning a mass-exodus sometime soon to avoid these catastrophic future events? Anyone who goes on YouTube these days can see plenty of video clips of something mysterious going on at the North Pole. What do the Plejaren say about the “inner” earth or “middle” earth? No, this is not going “off topic”. Also, what do they say about a mirrormere that reflects the light of the sun as well as of the stars. . . . ?
No, they haven’t said that.
The planet X and Niburu have been discussed since records began. In particular intersest was in the early 80’s when Voyager was recording on the fringe of our solar system they detected outside of our current understanding ( 1980’s) that we were being sent back information leading towards new discoveries. This becomes interesting as the timelines and resources become very interesting .
Firstly we have a probe , at its max now sending back hyper information SETI only dreamed of . Then we have Hubble and then the repaired Hubble and new Astronomical observatories installed in the USSR and in Arizona from the Vatican and the Hope Indian approval to do so on sacred land. The discovery outlined new bodies of planets as the were initially described. However , Niburu was in an elliptical orbit around two stars on the outside of its path. The turn around . It mapped out to some 350-370 years roughly at first glance. Being a red giant or dark star , it has matter , gravitational pull and a dark surface that does not reflect light. Some feel the gravitational influence , core , and bending of light allow it to move in a darkened state. It was quickly intensely researched and the elliptical pattern and unanswered question upon why the planets in our system were ’tilted’ on axis was discovered . They calculated quickly the mass of the red star , its elliptical trajectory and timeline appearing within our own solar system orbital pattern of our own planets .
Well things , got very hot , very quick . We had discovered in the early 80’s that we are looking at a significant event. How so? nobody could nail it down . So for a long time the information went underground as NASA and the governments do . Others studied the timelines and gradually old world events were becoming more understood and the timeline cadence was very specific and ultimately leading to where we are now . It will have a gradual ‘appearance’ into our system . It will be observed by private amateaur astronomers. However , mainstream , will be instructed not to touch it . We had a blip , like I shared of the first unbiased incoming. It was live , without tampering and the sky chart is undeniable.
Michael was right its more of a comet , asteroid thing in the residual of its passing in regards to damage. However , due to its magnetic influence , its already influencing the sun , all the planets , including ours with tectonic strain and magnetosphere ‘pull’ . The tides will be pulled to an amazing degree upon closest in and closest out as it passes us towards the sun and is whipped back around and sent back to its other star , and passes by us on the way out. Like I mentioned , I hope not big collisions happen . Moon is the big one to me , but even disrupting other debris is possible . Its going to cause a strong ‘rip’ on a very interesting angle of our planet in , and out . So twice pulling the seas in its direction as a body 5 or more times the size of Jupiter would . This also pulls tectonic plates and remember its stress ‘pull’ and release’ pass , as this happens. The two point entrance and then exit are 156 plus or minus days apart and that’s also with the ‘tail’ of junk behind it that could be pulled into our atmosphere and rain down.
So the story is that the gov felt it was not prudent to tell the people. Instead they build undermountain safe places for themselves. They have money trails that are huge that went to doing these secret things all over the world. And they figured the populous would become completely unsettled and the employment of all the milltary global is to manage this unrest. Be it from the economic collapse or the public discovery of the massive events. Its a very compelling synchronicity that I have never seen before as it unfolded for me. Its on cave wall drawings , every biblical writing and archaeologists dug up the timeline . Voyager found it , Hubble confirmed it , and the money trail and global government collective activity seems to confirm it. I have been watching the skies and I saw Venus three weeks ago looking strange and I found that news copter link . As broken down its a massive innocent piece of evidence. I know because I spent a lot of time behind the lense and other things that I wish not to say. Its incoming on my radar. And I realize its gonna change everything. As well as again , like BEAM , nobody is gonna touch it . A lot of dead astronomers and scientists tried .
https://www.youtube.com/user/Planet7X
Large charts and docs weaving the fiber of this event. Forget about the religious thing. Its the anatomy of documentation from a lot of old worlds that did not know what they were describing and did the best they could . Its the timeline that stacks up like clockwork . Solar system clockwork.
Michael On another topic I keep hearing on c2c every-so-often about Niberu which Billy said is realy a failed brown drawf star but George Noory and sometimes his guest keep saying Niiberu is planet. Why does Noory and his guest keep saying Niberu is a planet when we know from Billy and the P`s that Niberu is really a failed brown drwarf star nearby? So much for UFO stories.:))
They keep saying those things because they don’t know what they’re talking about it and they like to stir up controversy and fear.
MH: “They keep saying those things because they don’t know what they’re talking about it and they like to stir up controversy and fear.”
Yeah, those guys sure are fear-mongering with all their baseless claims…
Moshe, I assume you are a Jew. Well, if you are ignoring Billy then you are ignoring the world’s greatest kabbalist and the reincarnation of all the main prophets of Jerusalem. And if instead you are siding with the present “Israel”, then you are siding with the Erev Rav and Danites who were the FIRST to attack Jerusalem before the Babylonians.
false dichotomy
They also keep saying those things because they believe or just accept what Sitchin wrote, not realizing that he had mis- or guess-translated Sumerian writings which themselves were often but not always incorrect. Sitchin called it The Twelfth Planet in his book of the same title. Do they refer to it ad a planet. Sitchin probably concluded “planet” in part because the Sumerians mistakenly believed and wrote that the Anunaki lived on it; so it had to be a planet. Of course they don’t think enough to ask how anyone could or would possibly live on a planet that flew hrough space getting close to pur sun at one end of its orbit and freezing in space for most of the rest of its 3,000+ yrs orbit. Any aliens capable of overcoming such immense problems wouldn’t choose to live on such an erractic body but would make their own far safer and livable abode — something line Ptaah’s Great Spacer.
Back on the 1990s it was calculated that Planet X would arrive within one or two years of the new century, and of course, the calculations and esoteric spin keep changing to keep the fires burning. Don’t get taken on by it. There are those who are very good at professionally presenting things but woefully short on ivestigating what is the truth. I have had my run in with one or two. My advice is just think the whole thing through to the end and don’t get taken in by anything.
Regarding Uni / Nibiru / Orbital Cometile X :
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_010
“Response: Your question refers to my response on page 8 of our Bulletin, Vol. 2, #9. There is no consensus of opinions regarding the comet and planet Nibiru, respectively UNI/Nubiru …
This particular planet/comet has prompted extremely ludicrous speculations for some time now, and it may be important to note that in the past it played a major role in terrestrial history 3,600 years ago, when it generated a multitude of calculations and conjectures. The same wave of excitement holds true today, and theories are running rampant with respect to whether or not UNI/Nibiru/Nubiru will harmlessly pass by Earth or whether it will be drawn toward the Martian field, which would eventually drag it into Earth’s orbit. Purportedly, our dear old moon will be pushed aside whereupon it will drift beyond recall into outer space, while Mars, supposedly, will approach Earth to become its new moon. ”
___
Well, if it’s like any other orbiting body, a pass by through a mine field, I mean asteroid belt, could constitute a drive by asteroid-ing on the Earth if the bits of rocks disturbed by its passing move in our direction. But, more importantly, is the following relationship regarding Nibiru later in that same Report:
“Planet Nibiru/Nubiru/UNI has always been termed the “Planet of the Gods.” It is said that its reappearance in the SOL System will introduce the “Golden Era” or the “Golden Epoch of our solar system,” respectively. Yet another name for planet/comet Nibiru must not be forgotten either when, in days of yore, it was called “Antus.”
___
So it makes sense why some folks call it Planet “X”, even though it is generally shorthand from roman numeral “10”, since “X” is also a religious character we use to also represent deities like “SOL” or “IO”.
Please note a possible relationship with regards to Revelation 6:
http://www.newadvent.org/bible/rev006.htm
“9 And when he broke the fifth seal, I saw there, beneath the altar, the souls of all who had been slain for love of God’s word and of the truth they held, 10 crying out with a loud voice, Sovereign Lord, the holy, the true, how long now before thou wilt sit in judgement, and exact vengeance for our blood from all those who dwell on earth? 11 Whereupon a white robe was given to each of them, and they were bidden to take their rest a little while longer, until their number had been made up by those others, their brethren and fellow servants, who were to die as they had died. 12 Then, in my vision, he broke the sixth seal; and with that there was a great earthquake, and the sun grew dark as sackcloth, and the whole moon blood-red; 13 the stars of heaven fell to earth, like unripe fruit shaken from a fig-tree, when a high wind rocks it; 14 the sky folded up like a scroll, and disappeared; no mountain, no island, but was removed from its place. ”
___
Sounds like a drive by asteroid-ing. But, mercifully, we only have to consider Apophis at least. So, Nibiru seems to have came and went unless I missed another entry somewhere in the Meier material.
While I’m sure I don’t understand all the facts 100% correctly, what I recall about the Destroyer is that its trajectory was created un-naturally and as a result the high council approved the efforts to change its trajectory as to no longer be a danger in any way to our solar system. This is where the difference lies between the Apophis/Red Meteor and the Destroyer Comet, as the Apophis/Red Meteor’s trajectory was not un-naturally altered and therefore is considered a natural event and hence the reason why it is our responsibility to take the necessary steps to avert any damage that would take place otherwise.
If people will consider the lack of ambiguity from the information shared with and offered by BEAM in general, it would seem that further theorizing the existence and location of the Destroyer would seem to me to be a waste of time and energy considering all other things to be of such more importance when it comes to our missteps and the mission to correct them for our own benefit, but as with everything, we must decide for ourselves what it all means, and how we respond.
As far as the ancient descriptions and subsequent myths created by our ancestors, I am not privy to the exact times and details, however logically thinking, it would seem that the ancient explanations to our ancestors were either ambiguous and as a result described in the way our current understanding from the cuneiform writings is depicted, our that our ability to correctly translate the cuneiform writings is still inadequate. Either way my understanding is that the books written by Zecharia Sitchin, as compared to what I understand about what the Plejarens have talked about, has melded two different tales to form one hypothesis. The stories about the elliptical orbit of the Destroyer, and the origin of the visitors of that time who gave our ancestors the stories, were in fact two different explanations never meant to be combined as one and the same. The fact that the stone carvings showing scientific/medical/genetic manipulations being performed by these visitors presumably are the Lyrans who I think are talked about as the creator gods by BEAM, could be used as a better gauge to determine actual time lines in which the Sumerian culture began and when the Destroyer passed by in their time. What is also interesting and still not totally understood by me is the fact that BEAM has stated that Gilgamesh is still here and although was offered a chance to return to his people, declined that offer and prefers to stay here. Gilgamesh is said to be a shape shifter, and when this is considered it sheds light on some of the stone carvings by the Sumerians that show these visitors with human form bodies but various different animal and bird like heads.
Unfortunately the continual ramblings of people not willing to consider the lack of logic involved in human life forms able to survive on a planet/comet travelling through the vastness of space still continues, much like the amount of people who still cannot understand the lack of logic in their religious beliefs. The information BEAM has provided has not yet been completely recognized to be void of the ambiguities by most of the people on this planet, but even some of us here are still having a hard time with this as well. It is in my opinion, another example of living thousands of years under the false understandings that were started by visitors so long ago, but perpetuated by a lack of willingness to see that which is hidden right in front of our noses, the truth in all of natural wonder that exists all around us
I heard Billy and the P`s say that Nibiru is a failed brown drawrf star crusing our solar system every once in a thousand or millions of years?
I once had a peculiar dream. . . . no twice. . . . . maybe 15 years ago. I was flying around in outer space somewhere in my spirit form and saw a huge cloud of brown smoke. As I approached this cloud the smoke parted, as it were making a tunnel to an object in the centre of the cloud. This object looked like a glowing orange ball, translucent, without “flames”. As I turned my thoughts toward it to try to communicate with it, it became aware of me and began to rain energy like hail toward me, which stung my spirit body. It had a hostile presence in it. Then at that point the dream changed (I guess I left came back to the earth. . . . ) The second dream was similar to the first, but this time the dark brown/grey cloud and the object were above the city where I live (Kitchener, Ontario). This time I was oh, where our local library is situated, looking up into the dark sky. Again the cloud parted to reveal this orangey orb and again it started raining hail-like energy down on me, like it sensed my thoughts and was reacting to ME with hostility. Who I am in my dreams I don’t really know, because in my dreams I seem to lose my identity as “Carolyn”, and become someone with way more authority than I ever have had on earth!
I wondered at the time what this orb was, and never had heard of the “destroyer”. But last year when I discovered BEAM and FIGU, I realized that this most likely was the orb I had dreamed about years earlier. I wondered whether indeed it was a MACHINE and whether some hostile race of people had created it. I guess, growing up with Star Trek, I was attuned to those possibilities. . . . also Lost in Space and My Favorite Martian, Space 1999, Star Wars, Batman. . . . . . and on and on. Over active imagination, no doubt.
Agree with the comments . What was eclipsing when Venus was in front of it in a helicopter live video feed ? That happens to match exactly with the starmap and timeline? Love BEAM and his hardcore truth. But we have factual trails of money spent on cavernous hideouts around the world by different countries to save the elite , an incoming massive foreign body that can end us and we have armies around the globe ‘practicing’ for this event. Lets not walk away from the 369 year repetition of ‘events’ in history dating back to the beginning of cave drawings. Archaelogical digs showing ‘events’ . This thing is on the way and going to rip a stripe of earth on the way in and on the way out . At this point like I said , I read the most data I could and I will watch the skies . Its gonna be seen coming in by amature astronomers vocally and the big observatories will be silent. Its just my opinion. I hope its not the case.
P.S. What about Planet X that I keep hearing bout on c2c?
Note: I now require that people use a real name when posting. And please no profanity, etc.
Planet X was the Destroyer which was sent away for good by the Plejaren in the mid 1970s.
Consider that the whistleblowers (actual or wannabe) probably do not have all the facts on what the talk about. Top secrets are on a purely need to know basis, and again consider who needs to know precisely what it is that is incoming. There will be disinfo, part truth, and only the essential few at the very top will know it all. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these whistleblowers are given — or give — misinformation talking about Planet X when it is really Apophis. It’s okay to talk about Planet X because it can easily be discredited, yet some will listen and maybe take what precautionary measures they can so some lives on the surface might be helped, or saved. The people at the top of the chain of command are not against humanity, as many conspiracy theorists claim, because they too have friends and contacts they would like to help if they could. This is probably why there are so many programs coming out now on these catastrophic themes. Years ago that was impossible as those trying to talk about such things were charged with catastrophism in courts of law. Now they know and the jig is up things have changed. They still cannot make a public announcement, however, as the next day the stock market would tank and all hell would immediately let loose socially.
This leads me to question whether the recent official announcement that Apophis will not hit is a nice cover. The calculations come from 4-5 different astronomical groups and all assessed, it seems to me, in a way the public cannot verify in any way. This is not to say the scientists involved are being dishonest in any way; they just may be doing what they can with the data they have. If the top men know Apophis IS going to hit what would they do? IMO something pretty much like what we are seeing. So saying, I am not implying that the recent “will miss” announcement IS a cover — I don’t know what they know — just that it is something again to seriously consider. In a way, I hope it is a cover because then they would probably be making serious plans in secret to divert Apophis. If they really believe their recent “will miss” announcement then they are probably not making plans to divert the meteor/asteroid and end could be heading into deep doo doo, as this will be a civilization changing event that will most seriously impact all nations of the world, with its concomitant geological and climatic changes alone. The ejecta will would decimate many countries of Europe and Russia and this seems indicated by what Quatzel says in the CR. The ash cover would blo k the sun and there would be severe over heating followed by severe freezing. Discovery TV has covered all of this already for us in order to prepare. These DVDs are available. It’s as close as a public announcement the public will ever receive until our amateur astronomers realize impact is imminent. That probably won’t be until after the flyby in 2029.
I appreciate everyone adding to these scenarios. Personally , I’m just going to continue to stay positive and watch the skies. Some friends are astronomers and the public would makes some noise if we do in fact have incoming , even though their is not much we could do. A lot has been discussed regarding moving actual trajectories and it seems the Plejaran are the only ones that are able to achieve that. Stupid human ideas seem to lead to crumbling these masses into more incoming projectiles. In my research , its often follow the money. And in my posting , it was on the heels of trillions of accountable dollars missing from the US in terms of accountability. It did explain the massive underground bunkers being built as well as storable food stuffs and billions of rounds of ammo , FEMA camps , millions of plastic four man coffins, and the impending excercis of our military that is the largest ever deploying massive amounts of armory and training domestically to address civil unrest. The TPP which just passed , in zero dark thirty hour and is already classified and unreadable by the public is another super duper red flag. I fly mine upside down , because we are in a state or united states of emergency proportion. The largest campain contributors run the mainstream media, the fake sports, the drug industry , the fake war on drugs, the fake wars the USA partakes in and nobody is protesting. The far side of the top secret government is about creating Project Blue Beam . A holographic event to introduce aliens or even a messiah to the world to ‘use’ as a tool . This is real stuff and not right . I comment on this because David Icke took some heat . I do not know of his body of work . I know of only one framing of this explanation of the positive and the negative that made so much sense to me it had the hair on the back of my neck standing up . He speaks of ancient bloodlines and the needs of these people who control . He speaks of the current masses and what the energy exchange between them is and how it happens . I was floored. Again , another thing recently read that made a lot of sense in a sea of wonder. In all of this , still rights my boat that BEAM is so leveling and solid . In a different angle clearly the Herald of the new times . Aquarius described and ushered in is another amazing read regarding BEAM and his place in creation.
David Icke is doing the work of Ashtar Sheran, portraying Kamagol’s “hate-people” as an evil reptilian race. Ashtar Sheran was going to stage an alien invasion by these and come in as the “saviour”.
Maththew, “As far as I`m concerned Ashtar Sharam is a COMPLETE NUDDLE AND DEAD HORSE FEATHERS thanks to Billy and Asket who got caught with this mele volent entitie.Don`t bother with this fraud,he`s DEAD! Forget this one”!
… which can also mean that any technological exchange that may have been rumored to happen will most likely be a down grade of a downgrade, down grade pattern of vehicles. After all, the Bafath’s tech was massively behind, particularly because under no uncertain terms the alleges PJs had stated on one contact we lack a certain refinement to make truly worth beam ships. So the SOL system isn’t going to cut it for Beam Ship production.
Of course, stuff like this in the UFO field (here on Terra or Planet Misery) isn’t lacking technological or physical understandings so much as REASON. This is why the MMO is important as we’re looking for BEING and not believing.
He is dead himself but the people programmed by him, as well as impulses programmed by him into the collective subconscious are still at work, just like the impulses of the Bafath. It is like a gun that does not stop firing by itself until it runs out of ammo.
WHile there may be negative influences, it will be very helpful if people refer to what Meier says about CHANGING the negative causes to positive ones, such as in the Might of the Thoughts and the Goblet. There is too much emphasis certainly in turning over one’s power to the negative, whether in terms of so-called ETs, the “elite”, etc.
This is the antithesis of the spiritual teaching.
I agree, I consider that these forces are not so nebulous as many conspiracy-theorists and the like make them out to be. They all can be explained rather simply through the laws of Creation, and also can be controlled resp. repelled using meditation and logical thinking.
How do you follow the money when it is uncountable or untraceable?
My only comment here is that while folks may say that time and again (like the Dunkle Donuts folks like Jones, Icke, and Greer), I don’t see how that ever really proved the possessors of the Lemon Flyers stole trillions of dollars to produce science lab equipment that can’t hover with any remote possibility of stability. There is only person outside the Meier material that I’ve come across that ever suggested or hinted these types of craft hardly constitute as equivalent to ET craft seeing as how they are unstable in level-hover “flight”.
The way Earth Humanity does things like building Lemon Flyers is of course no way to properly build those things. After all, you’re dealing with bullies and bullies are about PRETENDING to be tough as pretending to be tough is easier than actually BEING tough. More over, it just shows years of privilege and absolute power made these folks a bit naive seeing as this ruse wasn’t going to fool anyone that has an eye for beam ships (like the alleged Plejarens).
That’s the stark reality and difference of Believing of being something (which makes folks like Jones, Icke, and Greer poseurs) and actually BEING something (which Meier doesn’t pretend to be anyone else except himself).
David, do you have friends who are astronomers?
We DO have the means to change the trajectory of Apophis by using nuclear weapons exploding nearby it to knock it slightly off course. The Plejaren will not do this for us, we can, and therefore must, do it ourselves. We have been told how, but will those with the power actually listen and do as advised? It has to be done soon as time is running out.
Here is what I was getting at. I kinda of hinted at a disclaimer of sorts of two things. I read and research a lot , a lot of sources and some times things just click when the big picture melds together. As simply as I can , because this stuff is complicated , very complicated. I mentioned David Icke because I initially thought he was another person. Then I heard his description , very well put about the axis of evil , how the bloodline from long ago still exists and the bullet points regarding what it means , what they want and live to accomplish. Forget about the rest , because he is deep fringe to me. I do not subscribe to him. But , description in this small facet yet large application was scary spot on. It explains the underworld evil and unfortunately we live amongst them. It clicked because I relentlessly study the intermingling of the law of opposite yet equal reaction in physics and quantum theory. So for me the connection was with that alone. I really think Alex Jones is real. I tune out the religious stuff and look only at the historic factual component as best as we can corroborate with science. At times old world descriptions of things are two fold. Timeline and science and the telephone game and interpretation which is frustrating. In one sense we know we had very intelligent societies on this planet and they have disappeared. Sometimes abruptly and we know we have a current science that is filtered. That’s why I commented on the dead scientists. A lot of people have lossed life by telling the truth and doing very noble things. People like Nikola Tesla are a great example. I have hit the wall with the info available regarding Tesla and he was a hero. And unfortunately lost his life to the underlings. He designed and forwarded technology to a understudy that manufactured an antigravity craft that transcended time. Time travel and stable operation. The operation was shut down , cease and decist applied by G men and defamed. The study of the CERN project is one example that will unveil this in a very unsettling study. Its a very complex mind numbing web of malice that unfolds with a rich history and frightening realization of very sinister proportion. BEAM and his thousand of pages of writings are mind bending and a constant pillar of clarification. However, we know a lot of things need to be held back for clear purpose regarding the complexity and at times its just too much for us to handle. So my point is that a lot of information is withheld on many levels and a lot of it that is able to become understood is mind warping. I think BEAM the herald of the new times gives us what we can handle and cradles us like a newborn in many ways. A lot is out their that is just beyond the scope of reason , understanding and believability. Jones has a huge understanding and he has his hands tied because of broadcast limitiations and lines that cannot be crossed. This is clear simply by the way BEAM has been amongst threat so many times. He is so immensely brave and deep its awesome when I look at the brain quotient outline that Guido Mussbrugger described in his awesome books. I’m trying to learn German because of the desire to understand more of the works of BEAM and the untranslated and materials that have a proper understanding in the original language. Its a lifes aspiration , very hard work , but very rewarding in every way. The wonderous ways this world we are living in is so amazing and complex its never ending! I just keep trying to get up to speed and only offer that viewpoint .
Here is the interview with Alex Jones and Jesse Venture regarding Dr. Judy Wood’s evidence search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP65E3I4fD8
Unmistakably AJ is a Dunkle Donut man.
“Die dunkle Ordnung” does not just refer to actual conscious conspiracy, but to those connected by common negative impulses, such as religious cults, which represent a subconscious force referred to esoterically as “Kuk” (Egyptian god of darkness) – the antilogos, the darkness resp. devil which seeks to enslave humankind. Very few people are actually consciously conspiring to enslave humanity – it is all in the subconscious mind.
It also specifically refers to actual people/groups who are involved in perpetuating their negative agenda for worldwide control, etc.
These people actually understand certain elements of the might of the thoughts and pursue their agendas without hesitation, without a full understanding of, and appreciation for, the immutable law of causality, among other things. However, worrying about conspiracies and such is the least powerful way to deal with and combat their negativity. Studying and applying the might of thoughts with the very expanded information in such works of the spiritual teaching as the MoT and the Goblet will, in the long run, help to reestablish the truth.
It’s been long neglected and it will take long to rectify, so the time to start is now.
In other words, certain groups we can name are involved consciously, who keep an esoteric interpretation of the truth for themselves while obscuring the true meaning of these symbols in exoteric dogmas, such as the Roman Catholic Church, whose symbolism can be directly traced to the cult of Re-Horakhty as practised by pharaoh Akhenaton (Echnaton in German). These symbols are in turn derived form the ancient Egyptian myths taught by the Plejaren. But the RCC keeps the average Christian totally unaware of the real meaning of these symbols and their real origin, couching everything in a slavish devotion of an imaginary god and a fear of sin, etc.
Again, while that may in part or in whole be so, it’s up to us to take back the power of our own consciousness and not to get so focused on all that, which only further FEEDS it. We have far, far more work to do to regain sovereignty over ourselves, our thoughts, etc.
Energy follows thought so why keep sending it to the “eve”…anything out there?
I wish you would quit using the word “conspiracy” like the main stream media does. Some negative, crazy thought process.
Jesus man, the Billy Meier material is conspiratorial. Aliens, spaceships, CIA assassins trying to kill him 20 times, his spirit being the rebirth of Muhammad, Asteroids the size of small towns. On and On!
The material is interesting and could be true, but he could just as easy be MILAB or MK. His life perfectly fits the profile. Just because you met him means nothing. You weren’t there when these things were done. He could have had help or been provided the info and videos under hypnosis. The pictures and images all look very time specific. This could be an elaborate disinformation campaign. Why print things years after you write them? The spaceships look clunky and not very advanced. Very comic bookish. Who knows? Probably real…but are these Nazi craft or US space program crafts or really Plejaran craft? And 20 times that a CIA assassin MISSED? Seriously, the MK assets are not going to miss 20 times. He must be the luckiest man on the planet.
Most of the foundations and think tanks that control our governments work in 50 year windows. This would easily explain the errors in the material and dates missed. How can the Henoch prophecies predict 800 years into the future, but the plejaren can’t get right that Obama was going to change 6 years after he was elected?
Especially, when the military “White Hats” were publishing documented evidence of SWIFT transfers showing him getting slush Vatican bank accounts in the BILLIONS from his handlers in 2010 for not signing off on the global debt facility settlements and because he wanted immunity from prosecution before signing. He is an asset and was from the day he was elected. Biden also took $200 million in bribes along with Hillary Clinton getting $400 million.
Seriously, you can’t get much more out there than the Meier material.
Bottom line, many of the “so called” conspiracies are FACT. The real conspiracy is the HUGE LIE told by the zionist main stream media to enslave people and control their thoughts. A point, I will concede, that Asket made in the 50’s, was a major problem for earth…the zionists.
Is it a conspiracy that some of us will be in a FEMA camp when people are rounded up for being labeled a domestic terrorist and one of the 2 civil wars start? I guess we will see.
Which, by the way, is probably what causes the civil wars and probably soon given the HUGE military exercise taking place in the SW this summer.
That and banks closing and keeping everyone’s life savings when the dollar collapses to nothing.
Or…Is that conspiracy too?
There’s a big difference about topics that emerge in the context of 26,000+ pages of a single person’s ongoing documentation of their life and experiences, which is further supported by voluminous physical evidence, independently authenticated by experts – and the cobbled together, fear inducing buzz weds that are representing the little that people actually know themselves about the truth and depth of those subjects.
Prophecies are projections of likely outcomes based on the law of causality. Neither the Plejaren nor Meier spend all their time trying to figure out any and everything about any and everyone when the real responsibility for this world lies with us.
So if you want to be like Pavlov’s pooches when certain bells are wrung, go hard and continue to give your power away to the very things that you worry the most about. In other words, the “enemy” has already won when your consciousness has been consumed and usurped by all that crap.
Jameson, if it is the same person that was adamant in avoiding the discussion with Buildings 1 and 2 from the WTC, let me point something out for you on what you BELIEVE to logically make sense and have owned and subscribed to. So, I quote you here:
“That and banks closing and keeping everyone’s life savings when the dollar collapses to nothing.”
___
If the dollar is worthless, no one is going to PAY to have someone grab all the worthless paper dollars from your or anyone Else’s worthless bank accounts. No one that is looking to steal a fortune is going to stock up on things worth nothing.
Think for a second the disconnect here no matter how small it may look or it may seem like nit picking or being Captain Obvious. That conclusion was provided by the conspiracy folks from Dunkle Donuts I am mentioning about and IS a form of “mind control”. Mind control alone isn’t some robotic ultra-perfect method rather something else. After all, are you merely just looking to see which argument only makes logical sense in your opinion discarding evidence that doesn’t fit right with you?
Don’t you think someone out there can make a fortune on this stuff since they don’t have to deal with the truth directly but rather people’s perceptions?
What did the Prophet Jmmanuel speak of these times:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Talmud_of_Jmmanuel_-_Prophecy
“6. And when he sat on the Mount of Olives his disciples came up to him and said, “Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign?”
7. And Jmmanuel answered, saying, “Two thousand and more years will pass, but meanwhile Israel will never find peace because wars and many calamities will threaten the unlawful occupants of this land; but see to it that nobody leads you astray.
8. “That is, many deceivers and false prophets will come in my name and say, ‘l am Jmmanuel, and I am the sign of the time,’ and they will mislead many.
9. “People will hear about wars and threats of war, and they are to witness this but not be frightened because it must transpire; but it will not yet be the end.
10. “For many a nation will rise up against its government, one nation against another and one kingdom against another, and there will be times of privation, earthquakes and immense storms and floods all about.
11. “All of these events are just the beginnings of the woes.
12. “Soon the knowledgeable people will be consigned to misery and will be killed.
13. “They will be hated on account of the truth of the teachings and the wisdom.
14. “Various religious cults will rise up against one another, and much blood will flow.
15. “Then many will succumb to the temptation, and they will betray and hate one another because they remained small in consciousness.
16. “Love will grow cold in many people because ignorance will gain the upper hand.
17. “Hatred will rule over the world and evil will reign,
18. “but those who persist in the truth will survive.
”
…
“36. “If at that time someone will tell the people, ‘Behold, here is Jmmanuel who is the sign of the time,’ they should not accept it as the truth,
37. “for many a false Jmmanuel and many deceivers and false prophets will come forth and perform great signs and miracles, so that it will become possible to lead astray not only the seekers, believers and errant ones, but also the scholars and knowledgeable people.
38. “Behold, I have told you this beforehand, and so it will fulfill itself.
39. “Thus, when the deceivers and those led astray will say, ‘He is in the desert,’ people should not venture there, and when they say, ‘Behold, he is in a chamber,’ they should not accept it as the truth.
40. “Since I will certainly return at that time, I will let them recognize me.
41. “This is as the law and destiny ordain it, and so it shall be.
42. “For as lightning flashes and illuminates from start to finish, so will be my coming in the future, when I will bring the teachings anew and announce the legions of the celestial sons. At that time I will have a renewed life and will again be accused of deception and blasphemy across the entire world, until the teachings of truth will bring about insight and change in the people.
43. “People of all times, beware: where the carcass is, there the vultures gather, so watch out for them. ”
___
Remember, Jmmanuel means literally something like “the one with the knowledge of the king of wisdom” or something close to that if I can recall that correctly from memory (correct me if I’m wrong). So, those that claim to be literal truthers and one’s with wisdom and knowledge claim, via interpretation, the same level of understanding of the prophet and yet fall massively short of that mark.