Like many people, I was transfixed by events on that September morning, certain that I was watching controlled demolitions of the Twin Towers, but the facts were quite different
No sooner had the two airplanes (not holograms) impacted the World Trade Center Twin Towers than conspiracists were fast at work churning out their inane theories.
Below are excerpts from the Contact Reports specifically pertaining to this unprecedented attack on American soil. You’ll notice that the first four excerpts are from conversations Billy Meier had with the Plejaren decades before the attacks actually occurred.
The last conversation makes clear what caused the explosions and fires, and the great heat that ultimately resulted in the damage that caused the buildings to collapse in on themselves.
Predictions of Sfath, 1947:
284. The various terrorist organisations that will come into being in the next few decades as a result of the intelligence and war crimes of the USA will spread around the world, as will also various later terrorist organisations that will also come into being as a result of the criminal military and intelligence machinations of the United States of America and will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.
285. However, also the USA itself will not be spared by this emerging terrorism, especially when at the beginning of the new millennium New York will be hit by much suffering and destruction and terror will claim thousands of human lives. (note Billy: World Trade Center = terrorist attacks on 11th September 2001, where at the same time four coordinated aeroplane hijackings took place and these aeroplanes were steered by Al-Qaida terrorists into the World Trade Center, into the Pentagon and into a field near Shanksville, about 100 kilometres east of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania, resulting in the total death of thousands of human beings.)
286. It is all caused by the world domination greed of the USA itself, which will stupidly and thoughtlessly train hostile and devious revolutionaries of various countries of South America etc., as well as Arab religious fanatics etc. in a military-guerrilla way, who will be organised in the background in a terrorist way and will later attack the hated hegemonic United States of America and bring thousands of deaths and destruction to their country.
Predictions of Sfath, September 1, 1948
179. Also in times to come, as it has been since time immemorial, the USA will provoke – through its criminal political and secret service intrigues and government infiltrations and military warlike interventions throughout the world – unpeace, hatred, terror, torture, war, murder, assassinations, elimination and destruction.
180. Through their guilefulness, the USA itself will not be spared from the emerging terrorism, especially when in the first year of the third millennium, New York is hit by heavy terrorist attacks and will have thousands of dead to mourn.
181. But after that, such happenings will repeat themselves in the course of the years also in other ways.
182. In many instances, therefore, America will be to blame for the world-wide emerging terrorism which will demand unspeakable suffering and destruction throughout the world.
Contact 212, November 6, 1986:
Quetzal:
25. Unfortunately, a true word.
26. And when I think of the coming terrible events of the future, then your words contain a very sad truth.
27. The Earth-humans will still cry out in the coming years, when the two B. (note: Bush), as father and son, take over the presidency in America, as I have told you.
28. Both of them will be inhuman warmongers and will cause contempt for human life and evil acts of war to be spread into the wide world, in their self-glorification and vindictiveness and in their lust for power, thereby stirring up terrorism throughout the world, but they will also exert themselves under the guise of peacemaking.
29. In truth, they will indulge themselves in a form of terrorism, like earthly humanity has never seen or experienced before.
30. Their terrorism will encounter foreign countries in a war-like manner and will demand many thousands of human lives.
31. But revenge for this will not be missing, for in evil acts of terrorism, they will be encountered by foreign extremist powers in their own country, whereby also thousands will lose their lives, particularly through an act of evil, when the Americans, in their great pride, are encountered by aircraft that are reutilised as destructive and thousand-fold deadly weapons.
Billy: You mean, what will happen with respect to the WTC, as you told me in confidence, an event that will arrive in about 15 years, do you mean that?
Quetzal:
32. That is of correctness.
33. About that, you should release no information.
Henoch Prophecies, February 3, 1987:
221. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning.
230th Contact, October 11, 1989:
[*Quetzal explains how Bush senior and friends plotted to get Bush junior elected in order to get their grubby oil greedy hands into Iraq. There is some comment about the greatest ever vote fraud, which allowed this.]
Billy: Monstrous, really monstrous. It would also be just as monstrous if/when the World Trade Centre would be destroyed by terrorists with captured commercial airplanes, through which thousands of people would die, that Bush junior – and various of his criminal trusted ones knew that then, however undertook nothing against it. A criminal act that gains Bush the upper hand and he can let loose against Islam, naturally always under the cloak/veil that they want to free the USA and the world from terrorism. It would not be discussed that it would be the Bushes who would bring the greatest terror over the world, at least for the next 15 years.
Quetzal: 666. That is correct.
Excerpt from Contact 328, July 20, 2002:
Billy: … Now however still another question concerning the terror attacks on the WTC in New York on 11 September 2001. The talk goes around that the American government and particularly president Bush was forewarned concerning this happening but that he has consciously and radically dismissed everything in order to be able to manifest his world domination plans as well as his greed for the acquisition of resources and land, and the American position as a world police etc., and indeed in form of the “War Against Terror” in world-wide form. And if one considers, what in this connection he has already done in Afghanistan – like his father, who was not a hair better -, then one could actually imagine that the rumor has some basis.
Excerpt from Special Bulletin #30, October 2006
“And because, on September 11th, 2001 in New York, the Al Qaida terrorists attacked – sped with two highjacked passenger aircraft into both towers of the World Trade Center and released an inferno, next to which, that a further aircraft was steered into the Pentagon and a fourth was brought down in the state of Pennsylvania – the power of the CIA grows immeasurably.
“New anti-terror laws were created, through which practical charters were prepared in regard to the terror search.
“The press was muzzled and the CIA was given freedoms which are so unbelievable that a normal citizen of the country cannot conceive of these.
“That could only happen, however, through the Al Qaida terror act, which shows that this was quite consciously allowed to happen.
“It is a matter of fact, namely, that the CIA, through its spies and informers, was just as fully informed about Osama bin Laden’s oncoming terror plot as was the irresponsible US President George W. Bush; yet neither he nor the CIA, nor ones from the other secret services, undertook something in order to prevent the harm.
“That has several reasons, because on one hand the terror attack had to serve to provide yet more unrestricted power for the CIA, and on the other hand, through its actualization, the USAmerican people could be duped with threadbare and filthy lies, and the war in Iraq could be launched.
“In addition to that, the anticipated terror attack also guaranteed that the CIA and the other secret services, as well as the US government, had to be given, along with more power, a greater financial blessing, which then also actually happened as the terror act was actualized and demanded more than than 3,000 human lives which the CIA, as well as US President Bush, coldly took into account.
“Also a reaction did not then even come from the side of the secret service and from Bush or from the CIA boss, George Tenet, when on August the 30th and 31st of 2001, in Minneapolis, a suspect named Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested who, as it turned out, was a substitute assassin in regard to an airplane hijacking.
“CIA boss Tenet did not react to the warning that terror attacks were to be carried out with hijacked passenger machines, whereby he also even hid important information from the FBI, through which it would have been possible to arrest all the terrorists who were entangled in the terrorist disaster.
“But, for money and power, everything is possible for the USA, for the US President, as well as for his dependent vassals, as well as for the criminal secret service CIA and all other secret services.”
Contact 688, August 20, 2017
Billy: Good, then now a question, because I am asked again and again from all over the world in relation to the events of 2001, when the double attack on the ‘World Trade Center’ in New York took place on 11.9.2001 and the crazy conspiracy theory arose from this that the US government and the CIA themselves had planned and carried out this catastrophe. At the time, however, you expressly stated that this was absolute nonsense, because the conspiracy theory had come about and been circulated particularly because many people had heard several explosions that had allegedly been caused by explosives and for which the blame was conspiratorially placed on the US government and the CIA. But you have explained that these explosions did take place, not because of explosives, but because the many tonnes of aluminium* from the destroyed aircraft melted as thinly as water and developed tremendous heat and exploded when they came into contact with the water from the sprinkler systems, because such thinly liquid aluminium is highly explosive when it comes into contact with water, as you have explained. And the immense heat of the aluminium, which is as thin as water, also melted the steel girders, whose protective concrete shells were torn open by the impact of the planes and exposed the steel, which could not withstand the great heat. According to your explanation, this made it possible for the steel girders to melt and for them to collapse and also for the towers to collapse. But you said – I do not know why, because I never ask for such explanations – that I should keep silent for at least 15 years and not say anything, just as I should not write anything down about it. But now this time is over, and moreover I am asked again and again why the ‘World Trade Center’ event is supposed to be a conspiracy theory, hence the question whether I am now allowed to speak openly about it and give a correct answer to the questioners?
Ptaah: 143. Today there is nothing to prevent you from answering questions; but the reason why I had to impose silence on you is based on our directives, which did not allow us to reveal facts that first have to be investigated.
Billy: You mean in terms of scientific investigations that need to be conducted by Earthlings?
Ptaah: 144. Exactly, and such investigations have been going on for some time in the correct manner, consequently the experts are on their way to the correct findings.
Billy: Interesting, though, what took them more than 15 years. But that is understandable, because the cogs of science to their findings and progress turn slowly on Earth.
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Once again, we must ask:
“How did Billy Meier know all this, long…before the events occurred?”
“While solid aluminum requires excess heat to ignite the reaction with water, nano-aluminum has a much greater surface area and will react with water at around 650 °C, i.e., as the aluminum begins to melt. At this temperature, the nano-aluminum with water can be ignited with a small flame.”
Thanks Michael! Excellent interview with Clayton Morris! So worthy of sharing.
I seem to recall Ptaah and/or Quetzal also saying there was something different in the fuel on the 9/11 aircraft that hit the twin towers. I will have to go on the record in this case to suggest the Plejaren are withholding pertinent information on this 9/11 incident and/or they simply have not looked into it in detail. The reason is that there is a plethora of information that has came forward from 1000’s of Engineers, Scientists, Builders, Demolition Experts, Government Whistleblowers, Aviation Professionals, First Responders, & Local Residents.
Have Billy or Ptaah explained why the WTC tower 7 collapsed if it was not hit by any airplane? And why a reporter live on TV announced it collapsed minutes before it happened?
The Plejaren don’t need to because it’s explained in many places:
“One senior fire officer was quoted in a subsequent interview as saying there was a “bulge” in the building and he was “pretty sure it was going to collapse”. During this time, our staff were talking directly to the emergency services and monitoring local and national media… and there was a fairly consistent picture being painted of Building 7 in danger of collapse.”
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html
In summary, there was a lot of confusion on the day and errors in communication.
People won’t like this, but in my opinion the lies about 9/11 are promoted by the intelligence services. Why? Because weren’t the wars supposed to stop all threats? Aren’t the psychos in government that we avail all responsibility for voting into power meant to be so big and bad that every terrorist would fear to even think of doing anything like this?
Therefore people rush to make the ones they turn to for protection and make them much, much worse than they are and say they MUST be behind it because otherwise our availing responsibility for voting incompetents leaves us wide open to all the threats the media and religion tell us about every 5 minutes and the secret intelligent services are happy for “Truthers” to promote these lies in case people start actually questioning what the point of war and globalist policies are.
The entire fake “terrorist” attack has been debunked dozens…
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On Holograms, Blue Beams and white lies…
As the planes are often claimed by the reality-deficient as being ‘Holograms’ and many people have also mentioned ‘Project Blue Beam’ under the recent Redacted interview video to “explain” Meier’s 1964 White Cross Hologram photo, I think the following will prove useful in clarifying some things about these conspiracy theories:
Project Blue Beam – A Star Trek fantasy from the mind of a Nazi
The “Project Blue Beam” conspiracy theory was a lie started by a French-Canadian failed Sci-Fi writer named Serge Monast who was inspired by the dim likes of William Guy Carr and a hoax antisemitic document called, ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’.
“In 1995, he [Serge Monast] published his most detailed work, Les Protocoles de Toronto (6.6.6), modelled upon The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, wherein he said a Masonic group called “6.6.6” had, for twenty years, been gathering the world’s powerful to establish the New World Order and control the minds of individuals.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Monast
According to Wikipedia and the following credible sources, ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ is Nazi propaganda…
“The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is a fabricated antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax was plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not antisemitic in nature. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
“The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is the most notorious and widely distributed antisemitic publication of modern times.” ~ US Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion
“The message of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is straightforward, and terrifying: The rise of liberalism had provided Jews with the tools to destroy institutions—the nobility, the church, the sanctity of marriage—whole. Soon, they would take control of the world, as part of a revenge plot dating back to the ascendancy of Christendom.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/conspiracy-theory-rule-them-all/615550/
“Distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if factual, to be read by German schoolchildren after the Nazis came to power in 1933“
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
“Believing in “Inner Truth”: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in Nazi Propaganda, 1933–1945. Although most leading Nazis realized that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a spurious document, they found it useful in promoting belief in the international Jewish conspiracy of which they were already convinced. Authorship and other details were irrelevant, they averred, if the book expressed “inner truth.””
https://watermark.silverchair.com
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What the Plejaren have to say about ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’:
“Ptaah: …Book works and writings such as the so-called ‘Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion’ are the worst slanderous works. They are invented conspiracies for the purpose of slandering, persecuting and destroying the people of the Jewish faith. Virtually all writings and books of this kind bear witness to a confused Nazi, political, extreme right-wing and religious fanaticism of the most degenerate kind, generally aimed at denigrating the Jewish faithful and fomenting hatred for Jews and the destruction of Israel.”
“For any reasonable person, the whole thing should actually appear absurd when the text of the minutes speaks of the fact that the whole political, economic, financial and social life of the entire earthly humanity and world is not what man recognizes, experiences and lives. It is argued that everything is only an illusionary puppet show, run by an invisible and almost omnipotent or all-powerful worldwide conspiracy. For every rational person, such talk is a very familiar feature of a crazy sectarian of extreme right-wing and fanatical character.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_445
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Where did the ‘Project Blue Beam’ conspiracy theory come from?
“In 1994, he [Serge Monast] published Project Blue Beam (NASA), in which he detailed his claim that NASA, with the help of the United Nations, was attempting to implement a New Age religion with the Antichrist at its head and start a New World Order, via a technologically simulated Second Coming of Christ. He also gave talks on this topic. Other conspiracy theorists have noted[4] the similarity of Project Blue Beam to the plots of Gene Roddenberry’s unreleased 1975 Star Trek movie treatment The God Thing and the 1991 Star Trek: The Next Generation episode Devil’s Due.”
“Copies of his works still circulate on the Internet, and have influenced such later conspiracy theorists as American evangelical preacher Texe Marrs“
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Monast
“Interestingly, the Blue Beam theory, published by Monast, is identical to an earlier concept by Gene Roddenberry, a screenwriter of an American franchise Star Trek. In Roddenberry’s screenplay, aliens try to invade the Earth and initially send religious leaders, created via technological simulation, to the Earth with the aim of shattering the faith among people and then spread their own religion.”
https://mythdetector.ge/en/where-does-the-blue-beam-conspiracy-originate/
“Hologram [Star Trek]
Projected light could be held in a magnetic containment field to give the desired appearance as well as provide a solid surface so matter did not pass through the hologram. (VOY: “Phage”, “Heroes and Demons”, “Lifesigns”) They could be projected within an enclosed area like a holodeck or out into an open area on a planet or in space. (TNG: “Who Watches The Watchers”; VOY: “Basics, Part I”; Star Trek: Insurrection) Holograms could be created to appear as locations, objects, animals or individuals, designed from holomatter, to have a life-like appearance and behavior.”
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hologram
3D Holographic technology cannot be used to project images in the sky as is falsely claimed:
“10 Best Real World Applications of Hologram Technology”
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/10-best-real-world-applications-of-hologram-technology
There a number of videos, like the following, claiming to show 3D Holographic technology advancements, only these are CGI depictions of augmented reality, i.e., NOT HOLOGRAMS but only viewable on a monitor. What the people in these videos are seeing is displayed on a monitor in front of them. [Notice the gullible commenting under the video about how this “holographic technology” proves that Project Blue Beam is real]:
https://youtu.be/veTWyKcyNp4
In conclusion, there was no Holographic technology in 1964 when Meier took his photo in India of the White Cross in the sky and so-called Project Blue Beam was invented by someone sympathetic to Nazis and further promoted by right-wing Christians, probably in an attempt to “explain” Meier’s evidence as they’re desperate to debunk it instead of accepting the simple truth that this man is not full of it like everybody else on Planet Earth: https://www.theyfly.com/india-1964
The conspiracies run rampant about 9/11. I’ve heard so many theories over the years. I think Ptaah’s explanation sums it up very logically and concisely.
Contact 626
Ptaah:
90. Which is in line with what really happened.
91. And with regard to Griffin’s absurd claims, it is to be said that the whole thing is absolute nonsense and based on deliberately fabricated false ‘evidence’, whereby Griffin, in his conspiracy delusion, created ‘lines of evidence’ that have no truth whatsoever.
92. The truth is that everything happened by Bin Laden or Al-Qaida terrorists, as it was made known to the world public and as it also corresponds to what you copied from Wikipedia on the internet.
93. If the whole thing corresponded to what Griffin in particular claims through his delusional conspiracy theory, but as all delusional conspiracy theory fantasists also claim, then in order to carry out and cover up the whole events, the US government and the US secret services would have had to get more than 6,000–6,500 persons to cover up the whole alleged secret government and secret service machinations concerning the destruction of the Towers and the thousands of deaths that occurred as a result.
94. This alone would have been an impossibility, because to get such a mass of human beings to conceal knowledge of something, or even in relation to such a crime, and to remain silent about it for the rest of their lives, is so illusory that it undoubtedly amounts to thought stupidity and manic delusion.
95. Even brainwashing influence or mass hypnosis would in no way guarantee or make it possible that one or the other influenced human being would not sooner or later wake up from his imposed state and talk.
96. Well, with regard to Griffin it is to be said that as a result of the terrorist attacks on the 11th of September 2001 he began to look for other causes of explanation than the truth and thus also began to doubt all the statements of the US authorities.
97. Consequently, he built up and also advocates the conspiracy thesis, conspiratorially claiming that neo-conservatives in the US government had thought up the attacks and had them carried out.
98. And this for the purpose of subsequently being able to use the whole thing as a reason for war and conquest in such a way that through self-induced ‘attacks’ in the form of ‘acts of terrorism’ in the USA against alleged enemies of the state of a foreign colour, a reason for war could be found in order to be able to take action against the corresponding enemy states and organisations with weapons.
I have one question? Who is Griffin? Thanks Salome
Hi Terry,
Here’s Billy’s question to Ptaah about 9/11.
Billy:
Thanks, your explanation is very interesting and makes the whole insect biting thing understandable. Then I want to ask you again about 9/11, because a conspiracy theorist, a certain David Ray Griffin, who apparently belongs to a so-called ‘truth movement’, claims that the hijackings and the destruction of the towers were faked by the US government and US secret services. This is contrary to what is officially known and stated on Wikipedia as follows:
Since 2004, Griffin has presented conspiracy theories on 11th September 2001 in numerous writings and has thus become a main representative of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
The terrorist attacks on the 11th of September 2001, a Tuesday, were four coordinated aeroplane hijackings followed by suicide attacks on key civilian and military buildings in the United States of America (USA). The events of that day are also briefly referred to as 11th September, Nine-Eleven or 9/11.
Three commercial airliners were hijacked on domestic flights by five perpetrators each, one by four, between 8:13 hrs and about 9:30 hrs local time. The perpetrators steered two of them into the towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York City and one into the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. The fourth plane, which was probably intended to hit a government building in Washington, D.C., was brought down by the hijackers’ pilot near Shanksville (Pennsylvania) after fighting with passengers.
The attacks caused the deaths of about 3000 human beings and are considered mass terrorist killings. About 15100 of 17400 persons were able to escape from the WTC buildings.
The 19 hijackers belonged to the Islamist terrorist organisation al-Qaida. The USA reacted, among other things, with the war in Afghanistan since 2001, in order to destroy al-Qaida there, to capture or kill its leader Osama bin Laden and to oust the Taliban regime that was allied with him. They also justified the Iraq war in 2003 with the attacks, among other things. Bin Laden first confessed to being their initiator in 2004. He was killed by US soldiers on 2 May 2011.
Griffin grew up in Oregon and studied theology at Northwest Christian College and the University of Oregon. He received his Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) from Claremont Graduate University in 1979. He taught theology and Asian religions at the University of Dayton. In 1973 he returned to Claremont to co-found the Center for Process Studies. In 1983, Griffin founded the Center for a Postmodern World in Santa Barbara and became editor of SUNY’s Constructive Postmodern Philosophy series between 1987 and 2004. David Ray Griffin is a long-time resident of Santa Barbara and is currently co-director of the Center for Process Studies.
In the wake of the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001, Griffin began to consider explanations other than those offered by the US authorities. In his book ‘The New Pearl Harbor’, published in 2004, he put forward the conspiracy theory that neo-conservatives in the US government had not only used the attacks as a reason for war and conquest after the fact, but had themselves actively helped to create this reason for war. The book title quotes an expression from a document of the neo-conservative think tank ‘Project for the New American Century’ from 2000: In it, the authors had written that only a catastrophic event like a ‘new Pearl Harbor’ could bring about the protracted change in US military strategy to a more offensive orientation more quickly.
Griffin stated that he had initially researched US foreign policy in the 20th century and interpreted the attacks as a reaction to US imperialism without examining the evidence of al-Qaida’s perpetration. Yet he had known that “US governments had already falsified evidence several times in order to go to war”. Writings by Paul Thompson and Nafeez Ahmed finally convinced him that there must have been individual accomplices in the USA in these attacks. In the main part 1 of the book on the four aeroplane attacks, he argues for the thesis of a secretly prepared controlled demolition of buildings 1, 2 and 7 of the World Trade Center. In Part 2 he presents his theses as answers to ‘disturbing questions’: US officials would have had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks and reasons for allowing them to happen. They would have obstructed investigations into it and blocked arrests.
In the second edition, Griffin was already reacting to the 9/11 Commission Report, which had been published in the meantime. Specifically, he published the book ‘The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions’, in which he also attacked the composition of the commission of enquiry, its selection of witnesses and evaluations of the witnesses’ testimonies as signs of government dependence. He spreads his theses as ‘irrefutable evidence’ that the official investigative reports were false and obscured the real causes and those behind them.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_626
My thanks to everyone who submitted my last inquiry which to me was fascinating! I did know this back then. I was watching these terrorist attacks on TV that very day and did not know this was a terrorist attack until the second plane hit the north tower and then discovered after the second attack that this was a terrorist attack then. Again many thanks to everyone for my enquiring.
In this thread, Francisco asks, ‘Have Billy or Ptaah explained why the WTC tower 7 collapsed if it was not hit by any airplane? And why a reporter live on TV announced it collapsed minutes before it happened?’
Unless there was an element of misinfo/disinfo, or some other media ‘machination’ that’s been covered, I think Francisco presents a worthy question.
Hi John,
According to the scientists and engineers, it was the extreme heat from the fires that caused the 3rd building to collapse. As far as reporting it before it happened, I’m unaware of the evidence for it, or Ptaah’s explanation. If you find anything in the contacts, let us know.
I have to say, I don’t think Bldg 7 came down due to any fires, something is not adding up here in my opinion. Looking at the video, Bldg 7 came down very fast and didn’t appear to be on fire from any external sources, but rather collapsed very cleanly, much like a controlled demolition. Let’s just say if the US Government was behind it and this was confirmed, what would be the result? There would be complete chaos from the American Public and complete disbelief and mistrust of the Government….It has been mentioned that this couldn’t be concealed by the Government, but NASA and the Government were very good at hiding the truth about Apollo 11 from the entire world…. Given the time we live in, this would be very dangerous for Billy to even hint at any form of intentional US Gov involvement ……imo I have not come across anything about Bldg 7 in the CR’s , but only mention of the twin towers…
Hi Scott,
I don’t have any concrete evidence for what happened to building 7, but I can’t make the connection to a government controlled demolition. We are lacking the means, motive and opportunity for the government to demolish building 7. In the court of public opinion, they would’ve already had a good reason to start a new war when towers 1 & 2 collapsed from an obvious attack, so why would they implode building 7 so many hours later?
The other issue I have with controlled demolition is that it would have required many workers over a long period, surveying, clearing out and prepping floors. Based on information from structural engineers and other experts, prepping a building for controlled demolition takes many months. To date, as far as I know, not a single person has said they witnessed this or took part in it. The odds of not a single witness in 21 years is extremely low.
There seems to be many opinions and conjecture about what happened to building 7, and we may never get a more detailed answer from the Plejaren, but I can’t find any solid evidence that proves the building was packed with explosives and destroyed in a controlled demolition. I think it’s easy to accuse the government of a cover-up due to their hideous and deceitful track record, but in the case of 9/11, it is my opinion that the events played out exactly as reported by the media and the Plejaren.
About the demolition of building 7. https://newswar.info/demolition-expert-dies-in-car-crash-after-9-11-statement/
About the demolition of building 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu8d5f9O6K0&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=women4truth
I was watching TV during that and I remember a clip where Larry Silverstein said, “We had to pull Building seven.” It stuck out in my mind and I never saw or heard any more about it again.
Yes, Michael I remember that statement very well..and how could office fires which consisted of office furniture, computers, fax machines etc.. within the building cause a uniform collapse of a non-rectangular shaped building…?
[ I know I said I’d leave this topic alone,] and, as Melissa has justifiably mentioned, “we likely will never know the full details” re: WTC 7. I can easily accept. that currently, there are more important areas concerning human future survival.
[I will now refrain] from any further WTC concerns, ending with repeating an earlier blogger’s question, where Francisco asks, “Have Billy or Ptaah explained why the WTC tower 7 collapsed if it was not hit by any airplane? And why a reporter live on TV announced it collapsed minutes before it happened?”
I think the live tv reporter announcing a premature collapse can be reasonably explained:
‘BBC did report the collapse of Building 7 before it actually occurred, but not because the network had inside information or was intentionally misleading the audience. BBC relied on an incorrect report from Reuters that said the building had collapsed, for which Reuters later issued a correction, according to a BBC story published on the 20-year anniversary of the terrorist attack.’https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/a-bbc-reporting-error-is-not-proof-the-network-was-part-of-an-inside-job-on-9-11/
Hi John,
This is interesting if you want to have a look. It’s the investigation by the National Institute of Standards & Technology into what caused WTC 7 to collapse. I don’t know if there were any other official investigations.
https://www.nist.gov/pao/questions-and-answers-about-nist-wtc-7-investigation
Hi,
Here is another analysis which also mentions the NIST investigation was flawed and certain details were omitted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXYpqJvjekM
Thanks Scott, I’ll have a look.
I copy Melissa, thank you. It’s on the same search results list as this one. (-:l
https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/news/others/2020/05/world-trade-center-7-building-did-not-collapse-due-to-fire-report
Salome
I concur, Scott . . and, to you Melissa, I’m not wanting to raise a major discussion that drags up unnecessary confusion of conspiracy theory, because I do accept that there was a terrorist attack. I would be silly to argue with Plejaren information. But, then again, I’m inclined to ask WHO, exactly, comprised the terrorists? Could it have cleverly included the evils within western powers too? We do know there was a statement issued, [Sept. 10th] by the then defense secretary Rumsfeld, claiming that ‘his department was unable to account for roughly $2.3 trillion worth of transactions. The next day, the U.S. sustained the terrorist attacks that changed the world, and this startling revelation was forgotten’. So, in what I can assemble, the budget spigot went wide open. It appears that Bush, Big Oil, and the military industrial complex wanted a war for the $.
The above said, through the years since the event, there are some interesting online analytical reports published by engineers and architects. Some reports have been reviewed and later reissued with revised finalities. Other engineer/architectural teams issued non revised reports claiming that the WTC building 7 did not collapse due to fire, which seemingly equates to heat related factors. Someone known then as a WTC leaseholder, ‘Lucky’ Larry Silverstein as stating that WTC 7 was “pulled,” which is a demolition term. Later in time, during a 2004 presidential campaign tour, John Kerry was filmed going off script and admitting to a small audience that World Trade Center building 7 (WTC 7) was brought down intentionally via a controlled demolition due to the fact that it posed a danger to surrounding buildings.
I’ve researched CR’s . . can’t come up with anything specific relevant. I’ve also asked Christian Frehner. He advises reference to the CR’s. I will leave the matter alone . . don’t need to end up resembling a dog chasing its tail!
We may never have the full details, and everything is conjecture at this point, but this is what I found about the Larry Silverstein clip.
I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, “We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.” And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
A spokesperson for Silverstein issued a follow-up statement clarifying that by using the phrase “pull it,” he was not referencing the building itself but the crew of firefighters inside the building:
In the afternoon of September 11, Mr Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Centre.
The Commander told Mr Silverstein that there were several fire fighters in the building working to contain the fires.
Mr Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those fire fighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.
Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his fire fighters out of the building and at 5:20pm the building collapsed. No lives were lost at 7 World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html
The abilities to hide things from the public had previously advanced beyond getting 6,000-6,500 governmental people to keep 911 secrets from the public. The obvious example would be the hundreds of thousands of government employees involved in maintaining secrecy with the Manhattan Project.
It is clear that 911 reeks of Mossad involvement. What is Mossad? Is it what it is presented to the masses through the fake news? Could what occurred in the 8th century have any bearing on its functioning in the world today?
The odds of that many people taking a secret to their graves is practically zero. We know that the scientists who worked on the Manhattan project didn’t remain quiet for the remainder of their lives. How many witnesses have come forward claiming that they knew about or were secretly involved in the 9/11 attacks? How many have come forward claiming that they witnessed or participated in a controlled demolition?
I don’t think anyone is denying that a small group of people control everything and steer everything towards war, hatred and violence, but not everything is a conspiracy. America has created enormous hatred around the world and especially in the Middle East and other developing countries. It’s not hard to understand how 9/11 could happen if you understand the law of cause and effect. Frankly, I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner with the way the American government and the Dark Leadership stomps around the world. They have been forcing their will on those they deem weaker since America’s inception.
Great story, I watched this all happen on TV, the day it took place and said this is not possible, the world trade center 1 and 2, were designed to withstand a 747 airoplane crashing into it, these planes used were smaller and carried less fuel… But once the story came out about the explosives used to bring down the two towers, it all started to make sense!
Later after the smoke had cleared, the story of explosions in the basement of the towers started to come out and that one man standing in the lobby of tower one, was blown out of the building, through plate glass windows, prior to the first plane crashing into the building, I knew right away that this was a planned event and with the government starting to cover-up every possible explanation, I knew this was an inside job, at the greatest level…
Then once I seen how fast the government, were to blame terrorist and attack Iraq, I knew the plan was to unstable the middle east and go after the oil markets there, it was plane to see the Bush family was behind it!!!
Well this should keep the Irene Clown person silent for a long long time. Honestly, he/she was getting on my nerves.
I have not yet read the article, but I thought of the Clown person first.
I think that Clown was W. Bush junior because he was in a school reading a book to kids than and W. Bush junior turned around and looked like he hjad a funny smirk on his face?
It appears that the 9/11 incident is multi faceted. Thankfully JHWH Ptaah has provided some very interesting information that all of the 9/11 researchers should bring into the investigation. There is simply way to much research that has been done that shows that controlled demolition plays a major part, unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) technology plays a major part, very specific protocols that were ignored play a part, weakening of the bathtub like foundation of the twin towers played a part, tyrannical government & corporate factions played a part, crisis actors played a part, and of course terrorist fanatical elements played a part. Just because something is called a conspiracy theory does not mean it is not a fact. We also must also remember that the Plejaren (humans) have not always been correct and/or have not always been forth coming with all of the facts and/or have not always dived in to matters of earth craziness in every detail. They admit it & tell us to do deep research.
Oh, heat of two buildings that collapsed quickly does not logically explain collapse of a 3rd.
The Plejaren did clarify through their own investigation into the facts. So unless Billy, Sfath, Henoch, Ptaah, Semjase, Quetzal, etc. are all deliberately lying, it was the result of terrorists flying planes into the twin towers. Ptaah makes an excellent point when he says that there’s no way that 6,000 people would take a secret like that to their graves. People can’t be trusted with small secrets let alone a huge plot to kill their fellow Americans. And the Plejaren would have the required technology to know exactly what happened, so why they would tell lies about it as far back as 1947 makes no sense. They have spoken out about crimes involving the CIA and other untouchable groups in Israel, so telling a lie about 9/11 doesn’t add up.
Ptaah:
93. If the whole thing corresponded to what Griffin in particular claims through his delusional conspiracy theory, but as all delusional conspiracy theory fantasists also claim, then in order to carry out and cover up the whole events, the US government and the US secret services would have had to get more than 6,000–6,500 persons to cover up the whole alleged secret government and secret service machinations concerning the destruction of the Towers and the thousands of deaths that occurred as a result.
94. This alone would have been an impossibility, because to get such a mass of human beings to conceal knowledge of something, or even in relation to such a crime, and to remain silent about it for the rest of their lives, is so illusory that it undoubtedly amounts to thought stupidity and manic delusion.
Contact 626
I did not say the Plejaren did not look into it, I suggested they did not look into it in extensive detail. All through history malevolent ones have participated in conspiracies, interestingly almost every time, it was compartmentalize with not all parties knowing all parties involved and/or all parts of the ordeal; moon landing, voting, vaccines, FRN’s, religions, etc… There is simply more to it then what the Plejaren are saying about 9/11.
Ok, Bob. If you have evidence that the Plejaren didn’t thoroughly research it, please share it with us. Thanks.
Amazing man Billy is. Hero in a sense a man who is very lucky to meet others from another world (humans). We have lot to learn as humans here and they better wake up fast. NWO is coming but hopefully be stopped by free will and Striving.
We need to think of alternatives lest we ALL die in a terrible nuclear fire storm soon if we don`t get our act together and soon because the Queen of England just died on September 8th, 2022 so we had better start to keep our eyes and ears peed now for the next week, after all the last day will be Monday September 19, 2022 that means 7 days apart, “Go Figure!?”
Thursday, September 15th will be 7 days from September 8th.
Why is this Terry?
It’s been a while since I’ve been absorbed by the 9/11/2001 attack by terrorists of the WTC buildings, the Pentagon, and Shanksville, PA. I fell for a number of conspiracy theories, in particular, Griffin’s claims that thermite was planted in the basement of one, or both buildings, and this substance which produces extremely high temperatures that melted the girders of both buildings. I am relieved that Ptaah revealed that the attack wasn’t initiated by any type of government agencies (i.e., the FBI, CIA, NSA), however, the cause of the attacks were initialized by the U.S.’s lust for greed, power, and oil. Also, it is my opinion that the U.S., and Israel both want to hegemonize the Middle East through their alliance, which inflames Arab nations, particularly Palestine, which had their homeland stolen by the Zionists.
The Collapse of WTC 7: “A Wholesale Loss of Documents”
Lost a cousin in tower 2 on the 85th floor. He had managed to come down after the first tower was hit but went up again because was told everything was ok. Found out because he called his brother in Montreal Canada when he got down.
The Parallels Between 911 & COVID – Richard Gage & Dr. Madhava Setty
Contact 626:
92. The truth is that everything happened by Bin Laden or Al-Qaida terrorists, as it was made known to the world public and as it also corresponds to what you copied from Wikipedia on the internet.
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Who exactly were Bin Laden or the Al-Qaida terrorists ?
Some of the claimed hijackers were walking the streets after the attack. How can anyone be in two places at once especially when they had died just days, weeks, months earlier after 911?
It seems Bin Laden or the Al-Qaida terrorists wanted the destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, and Iran. Iran is still intact although they have taken many hits already and remain a target.
CR626 block 92 appear as sarcasm:
“as it was made known to the world public and as it also corresponds to what you copied from Wikipedia on the internet”
Christian Feehner at FIGU said that there was no sarcasm in Ptaah’s statement.
What I’m saying is everything was made convenient and available for them just like a patsy.
If the US is sending weapons and troops to Ukraine, are they involved in the war?
The fraud PCR test to inflate “cases” followed by the EUA lethal injection push via all the organs of state where people and hospitals are paid-off for genocide is another example.
Open migration into Europe that followed an open announcement by a “tribe” member a few years back to change “white” Europe is another example.
“Bin Ladens” or Al-Qaida terrorists are just convenient strawman enablers to realize an agenda.
If anyone is interested in the extensive work the Plejaren did on Conspiracy Theories, check out the blog below. It’s a list of true and false conspiracies dating back to the 12th century.
https://theyflyblog.com/2017/09/true-or-false-79-conspiracy-theories/
Thanks Melissa, the link for that blog has been in my bookmarks . . and, as side note re: WTC conspiracy theories. Considering the two links in this thread provided by Peter Doggen telling of the Dutch demolitions expert who’s 2011 analysis asserted that demolition brought down building 7 . . well, I’d be very interested to know the critique Joe Tysk would offer, when the element of honesty is required to support the expert’s analysis.
How are the Plejarens getting the events of 911 so wrong, it really makes me question their wisdom and perspective.
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We call them Pleiadeans in English, since the ‘Plejarens’ is the German name for them. The name comes from the Constellation of Pleiades, which is also the English word of the original Greek ΠΛΕΙΑΔΕΣ.
Personally, being an English speaker, calling them ‘Plejarens’, is like saying “I wake up in the morning and I go to my oficina” instead of saying ‘office’.
That’s just me.
The word Plejaren is not a German word. It’s what the people from Erra call themselves. There is no such thing as a Pleiadean.
With the ‘Pleiadians’ withdrawal, the secret can now be revealed that they do not refer to themselves as Pleiadians, but as Plejaren, a name taken from the Plejares star system, which isn’t within our space-time dimension configuration, but in one that deviates from ours by a mere fraction of a second. The Plejares are beyond the Pleiades star cluster, where a dimension opening ‘gate’ was created to allow the Plejaren to traverse between the two different space-time configurations.
The Pleiades i.e. the celestial bodies and planets of the Pleiades star cluster, are uninhabited, indeed uninhabitable in every way, for they’re far too young for that preliminary formation and establishment of any life form. This fact alone subsequently withdraws the wind out from the sails of every crook, fraud and liar who has ever claimed to have maintained any form of physical or telepathic communication with a ‘Pleiadian’ since the time when Meier made his initial Pleiadian / Plejaren contact information public. Truthfully, Pleiadians simply don’t exist, only Plejaren!
This information was kept secret throughout the entire period of communication between them for the specific purpose of exposing each and every hoaxer, liar, charlatan and crook up to the time when the Plejaren withdrew from Earth.
With their complete withdrawal, the Plejaren have allowed Billy to reveal longer-term predictions for planet Earth and its humankind. To this end, Billy produced 23 closely-spaced, typewritten pages that contain ancient predictions that extend far out into the future. They additionally provided information about our Sun being a dying star, and that mankind will inevitably leave Earth at some point in time. The pages also contain ancient information about Earth’s humanity and its former existence in the Sirius regions; the genetic manipulations performed on our forefathers and their prehistoric origins before the Old Lyrians / Lyran came to the Sol star system and to Malona, Mars and Earth; as well as the fact that this genetic manipulation can and will be reversed etc. Some passages from these predictions will be published in the ‘Wassermann’, if possible, and they most certainly will be published in a ‘Semjase Contact Report’. The date for their publication will depend largely on the speed at which the subsequent contact reports can be published. Furthermore, these predictions will be incorporated into the latest edition of ‘Prophetien’, which is currently being revised and may be available for purchase in its new, book bound form in the autumn of 1996.
Billy
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_001#Withdrawal_by_the_Pleiadians.2FPlejarans
It is too easy to label every alternative explanation as a ‘conspiracy theory’, a term coined by the CIA after the CIA assasination of President JFK. Some theories may well be wrong & some may well be ‘red herrings’. Dr. Judy Wood wrote an excellent book “Where Did the Towers Go?” She investigated this event from a scientific/engineering point of view, gathering evidence & asking questions. Some points of note: The ‘planes’ hit the top sections of the towers – how could heat generated there cause melting of steel further down? Surely, at least part of the wings would have sheared off. What happened to the engine blocks of a number of vehicles?: Park Place – fire truck, Hazmat truck – West St., Car Park off Murray St. – 2 cars. Huge circular shaped holes – WTC5, WTC6, Liberty St. Also, what about the miraculous disappearing planes at the Pentagon & in the field in Pennsylvania.
There are a couple of things to think about.
One is that the warnings/information about the then yet-to-come attacks began in the 1940s, up through the 1980s, etc. So people will have to decide for themselves if they find the Meier information credible, or if they’ve found any errors in the hundreds of examples prophetic information we’ve corroborated to date.
If they haven’t found any errors, if the prophetic warnings are indeed impeccably accurate, they have to ask why the Plejaren would be giving us extremely wrong information. If the logical answer is that there is no evidence that they’ve done so and there’s no reason for them to have done so in this case, then they can consider that the conclusions from the various theorists (conspiracy or otherwise) are incorrect.
As for the unexplained associated effects and phenomena, they will have to also realize that the information from the Plejaren appears to be specifically focused on the nature of the attack on the Twin Towers by terrorists with airplanes. Other factors that they don’t explain will have to be resolved, if possible, but they are not the core elements that concerned the Plejaren and also their unresolved or controversial nature don’t invalidate the accuracy of the Plejaren warnings.
I saw a note from the admin stating: “NOTE: Unless and until you can substantiate your claims with evidence that isn’t conjecture or opinion, these types of comments will be deleted. (admin)”
My question to the admin: are videos enough proof to support a claim?
I have provided the site where the unedited videos of the “plane crashes” can be seen, as well as the title of the video. The URL: https://ugetube.com/search?keyword=911+-+cgi+or+real+planes
The title”911- CGI ore real planes (2019 Documentary)”
I hope we dont continue to act like cavemen, who thought that lights in the skies were gods. I think advanced intelligence can also be wrong, considering (from what they say of course) that we “…can alter the future based on our behaviors”. Could it be that what they predicted didnt come true because we degenerated far quicker than they thought we would?
In order for the whole thing to be CGI, there would have to be many people involved in the scam. And as Ptaah rightfully stated, the odds of that many people holding such a crime secret, for 21 years no less, is an impossibility.
Here is a video, from someone who did their own research, which shows 50 different views of the plane hitting the second tower, many of them taken by private citizens on the ground or who lived in the area. This video is in no way meant to glorify the events of that day. I present it as a piece of evidence.
You can’t be serious. Just because someone writes “Raw footage” digitally on top of video footage doesn’t make it so. Now that is caveman thinking. If you used your eyes you would see that 1. The so-called “Raw footage” is of inferior quality to the news footage and it NEVER is, and, 2. The so-called “Raw footage” freezes / stops at the point the plane appears in the broadcast footage (look at the smoke in both and notice how if freezes when the plane appears in the news footage).
Conclusion: An obvious result of motion interpolation which was a common feature of early LCD TVs and recorders from the 2000s to “improve” blurry footage or slow footage down artificially by replicating the sharpest frame in a sequence, or an effect of video editing software whereby frames are missed out so that the file size is reduced resulting in lesser quality. There’s no way that is “Raw Footage”.
“Ptaah: 144. Exactly, and such investigations have been going on for some time in the correct manner, consequently the experts are on their way to the correct findings.”
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