Extraterrestrials from the area of the Andromeda galaxy whose strange UFOs look like a horizontal beam of light
Following up on the sparse information in CR 828, here is a little more information from FIGU on who the Ziltoner* that visit Billy Meier are:
Regarding the Energy Ships
Francisco Villate and Chris Lock** have done investigation into the pre-digital era Energy Ship photos, more of which can be seen among the 617 UFO photos in the Photo-Inventarium. However, they haven’t yet drawn their final conclusions about these perplexing craft.
Regarding the first Energy Ship photo below, in 2006, photographic and movie special effects expert, Ken Solomon, told me that it appeared to be an in-camera triple exposure.
NOTE:
Michael Uyttebroek, from FIGU Canada, sent this information:
“The energy ships belong to the Nabulanians who are also a dwarf race and from the Andromeda region. https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_123 I think that the Ziltonians are another race.”
As you can see, it gets hard to tell who all the extraterrestrials are, without a scorecard.
*Previous information about the Ziltoner:
Billy Meier’s 790th Contact
Resurgence of COVID, Coming Consequences of US-Ukraine Instigated War
**Analyses and Books by Francisco Villate and Chris Lock:
Rahl Zahi’s Analysis Report on the Pendulum UFO
Rahl Zahi’s Analysis Report on the WCUFO
They Are Here
Researching a Real UFO
I see now. The Ziltonians are the supporting team who are here to observe/study/get to the bottom of the root cause of Billy’s constant attacks. They have been doing this for about 50 years. Since they know the religions are going to go away eventually they are mastering the energies that attack Billy so that there is no doubt what those energies consist of. Once all has been thoroughly researched, the beginning of peace on Earth will be the outcome.
It’s definitely worth it to perform tasks in a complete way. I will remember that when I do things half way (though I had already been told by one of my teachers that “if it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing well”).
Actually, what the Plejaren have proven is that they didn’t tell the whole truth since 1974, the first contact report…
There is a difference between withholding/concealing information and lying. There is still plenty that they don’t say, either because it would endanger Meier and/or others or, as has obviously been the case for a long time, most people can’t handle the information.
There are plenty of analogies as to why adults don’t tell…children many things.
The only problem nowadays is unlike my generation,you can`t talk down to children anymore.
Terry,
You shouldn’t talk down to children. There’s a difference between protecting them from things they aren’t ready to learn or know and talking down to them. Children are human beings just like adults and should be treated with dignity.
Yes, excellent! I fully agree and have considered this within the creation energy teachings.
Nature does not lie, but it holds many secrets. A powerful lesson when considering our personal and societal growth.
Secrets perform an important function in our evolution, as individuals, collectives and nations. They help pace our growth in a natural manner. Ideally, it would seem, the truths hidden by nature’s secrets are finally revealed when we have worked hard and gained the wisdom to live accordingly… ah, ideally…
Alas, we see the destructive imbalance very heavily in our world… nature’s secrets abused in unwisdom for their mighty oppressive powers (nuclear, genetic, chemical, electronics, energetic, etc.) and endless lies to maintain the power structures in place…
we strive onward
I agree with you 100%
It’s a fine line between witholding information and outright lying, and easy to cross over. But in all honesty this kind of approach is quite rampant in Ufology and in contact cases. We simply don’t have all the information at our disposal nor is it provided, whatever motive behind it. In my teens I read a book by Jacques Vallee named “Messengers of Deception.” A really sobering, slap in the face book if you’re exited about the contactee phenomenon. As the title suggests the author concludes that deception is part of the ‘game.’ A “trickster” element if you will. So this new revelation about Ziltoners is not completely unexpected. I hope that you Michael and other readers contemplate and realize the next time you proclaim the “truth” in the Meier case – that you might not have it…, things can change.
Being a contrarian for its own sake keeps one from perceive and determining the truth for themselves. There is always another “irritant” that must be addressed, even when it’s been long explained.
So, let’s take a look and ask some questions:
1. Regarding the “fine line”, what “lies” have been told?
2. What independently analyzed and authenticated “contact cases” are you speaking about?
3. What information are you missing?
4. What “deception” and what “tricksters” are you talking about?
5. While “things” can change, the truth doesn’t, so what truth don’t we have?
Ok Michael,
1 The Plejarens could cross the “fine line” and lie because they might consider it’s for our own best interest, or theirs…. And don’t you remember that the Plejarens told stories about other people in ufology that changed over time?
Plan B From The Bacardi Room: Billy Meier Vs Other Contactees, Flip Flop
2 Other cases such as the one of George Adamski and Howard Menger meet most of your criteria as well;
Plan B From The Bacardi Room: Adamski Witness List – For Michael Horn & Billy Meier
3 What I’m missing? The Truth. After two decades you still don’t get it? I don’t do this because I hate you or that I want to hurt and punish you. What you’re doing is wrong. You don’t have the Truth. I don’t either. Don’t proclaim that you have it! Did I ever say I have the Truth regarding other contactee cases? No, and I’ve been delving into this subject all my life. Nothing is conclusive.
4 I once again have to recommend the book “Messengers of Deception” by Jaques Vallee. For some reason, motive, the intelligence(s) behind the UFO phenomenon will only divulge information so far. Don’t be a sheep. Think! They could land on the White House lawn anytime. Why don’t they? Because it has to do with time, dimension and free will?
5 Michael, the Truth is in the eye of the beholder. A serial killer can think he has the truth and blow himself up in the name of God or Allah. I’m not even exagerating. 9/11 for example. What makes you think you have the Truth? Your own ego? We, human beings, are all artists that can mold the truth which way we want to see it. It simply depends how many people will follow you with that creation…
Ed,
1. Instead of imaginary, infallible, “space brothers”, the Plejaren correct information that they determine was incorrect, or incomplete, upon further evaluation. I don’t find anything wrong with that approach. Let’s also remember that it’s said that in many cases they didn’t look deeply into people’s claims because they didn’t realize that we lied so much.
2. Inn addition to Meier reporting that Adamski admitted his hoaxing to him, we have no real evidence from Adamski, Menger, or anyone else even remotely comparable to Meier’s. That means, in the case of Adamski’s photos – where they were shown to be outright hoaxes – absolutely no credible, technological analysis. That Adamski may have photographed or filmed some Nazi craft seems like a possibility. However, as soon as these guys start babbling about visitors form Mars, Venus, Saturn, etc., you know it’s an absolutely nonsensical hoax. Hopefully, we don’t need to discuss why there’s no life on those or other planets in the solar system. Of course, I’m unaware of any credible information from Adamski, i.e. specific, detailed ,previously unknown scientific information and prophetic information in other categories.
3. Summing up your points, you said, “Nothing is conclusive.” First, that simply isn’t true, as we know from everyday life, where all sorts of very “conclusive” facts are in operation. But you also can’t have it both ways; why even bother to mention – let alone use as examples of “contactees” – people who’ve made all sorts of unsubstantiated claims at best (and are charlatans at worst) and try to claim there is ANY “conclusive” evidence to support them?
However, we have an abundance of evidence – HUNDREDS of specific, error-free examples – of the TRUTH. The TRUTH of things in the material world, covering a vast array of sciences, the environment, geopolitics, medical and financial information. Those who are students of the Creation-energy spiritual teaching know the truth of the teaching through their own study and application of it.
4. You didn’t respond to my question but merely recommended a book, of claims about which you made claims.
5. Your comments here show that you have absolutely no understanding of the difference between established, factual truth and opinions, points of view, etc. Throughout all your comments is a disregard for facts, actual evidence, the protocols established for determining facts, etc.
Because your reference points in terms of UFOs, contactees, etc., are based, and rely, on unsubstantiated claims from very questionable, evidence-less people, you’re stuck trying to compare them to a singularly authentic case. This isn’t an infantile “my contactee is better than your contactee” situation. It’s simply the case that this material is credible, testable, etc., and none of the rest are.
But since this is a study of such incomparably high quality material, to indulge in discussions and comparisons with that which is not credible and contains nothing of significance, is not something that will warrant further space and time here.
It was a courtesy to you, to extend the opportunity to present your best case, as the majority of the people here may not be familiar with your points of view, let alone your…decades of attacking the Billy Meier case based on your arguments, such as they may be.
I allowed your comments even though you failed to meet my requirements that you substantiate your attacks against Meier and his evidence. It’s very clear that neither you, nor ANY other skeptic, can provide such substantiation. While there are always new people coming to this blog who are just beginning to examine the information and evidence so they can determine the truth for themselves, and whose questions about it are responded to, the majority of people, who’ve been at this for some time, are well past that point.
I will leave this exchange for people to make up their own minds. However, do know that I won’t be posting, responding to, any more discussion along these lines. We are very grateful that we have that which we’ve long been searching for and we continue to explore it.
Thanks for letting me respond. Once again, I don’t have any ill will against you and I’ll give this a rest for now.
You’re welcome and I don’t consider that skepticism per se equals ill will.
Please see our latest interview:
https://youtu.be/lUameze5VNs
Posing skeptical questions and challenges helps to bring forward responses, os that people can have information for making their own determinations.
Thanks for your understanding.
Michael, it is almost certainly photo number 720 that Ken Soloman was referring to rather than the one you have posted here. It, 720, is indeed a triple exposure. see the bottom picture in the pair below.
Rhal and I have clearly delineated the three different shots. Each of the three is shifted strictly horizontally, suggesting it was an in-house darkroom creation from Billy’s original negative. Billy never used a tripod for his photos (only for his movie camera) which would have been necessary for the three to be taken with the camera and to avoid any hint of vertical movement if moving the camera sideways while shooting.
This evident strict horizontal shifting could most easily be performed by someone working in the darkroom with the original negative and pulling it through the sheet negative holder slightly to shift the image horizontally while printing onto photographic paper. This would have been done twice to arrive at the triple exposure. Of course, Billy had no darkroom or facilities to perform this action, so it would have been done by someone unknown, presumably to discredit Billy by “proving” his photo was manipulated into a double or triple-exposure shot, a common ploy for manipulating photos.
The bottom photo here is #720.
That glowing ship must be a drone so to speak. 3-4 feet tall beings couldn’t fit in that.
So how’s that for conspiracy theory Mike.
Today it was revealed that hundreds of FBI and CIA agents were sent out during 2019/2020 period to work for major media corporations to control news content (1st amendment violation) Twitter, Facebook major discussion websites… etc.
So without pointing fingers – discussion forum where you are involved in completely Real facts and where Truth reigns Supremely would be for sure a place that they want to control if possible and make sure that Good News don’t spread like a bush fire.
In my experience they even disrupted and voided Peace Meditation that I held in Chicago few years back.
Very reason for 25 attempts on Good News bearer.
I guess nothing is surprising any more.
i wonder who might be the bosses of this social media and google outlets
Twitter is run by Elon Musk. Truth Social is run by Trump Media & Technology Group. Facebook is run by Mark Zuckerberg. Telegram is run by Pavel Durov.
Let’s get back on topic.
hahaha,its well know that all msm and social media outlets and google and microsoft are run by zionist jewish very nice people that never lie.
Musk recently bought Twitter and suddenly the truth comes out about what they did and how much they censsored and ahadowbanned other opinions
Truth social is nothing and is not even to be found outside the US and telegram is an app that does not censsor
It’s only well known in your head. Check Twitter again. Shadow-banning hasn’t gone away. And only the truth that you’re allowed to hear came out because it wasn’t a secret. Your savior isn’t going to save you.
THIS IS OFF TOPIC.