At least flat-earthers can go to it’s farthest edges to avoid the catastrophes that arrogant, naked-emperor “scientists” may allow to occur
Blog contributor Phil Marshall, who astutely commented on the vast collection of useless content in John Greenewald’s Back Vault, also found this recently published information:
It seems to correlate quite closely with Billy Meier’s information and warnings from the Plejaren in:
Contact Report 150, October 10, 1981:
493. The meteor mentioned in the prophecies, which will have an enormous size and will cause very vicious destruction on Earth, and which besides climatic also threatens to bring tectonic and other changes, will also threaten to split the Earth’s crust, from today’s North Sea to the Black Sea, which however does not have to be true with certainty, because today certain factors speak against it.
Of course, the Plejaren warnings, which aren’t “hypothetical”, preceded the recent information by over 40 years.
He Cut and Ran
This coming week I’ll post correspondence, initiated by Brigitte de Roch, between another “scientist” and me. This one is supposedly involved in “collecting data” about Apophis. I think you’ll find his point of view…interesting.
I offered to interview him so he could regale everyone with his “superior” knowledge but, for some reason, he decided to cut and run instead.
To warm you up for the conversation, here’s the first interview with fantasist Robin Hanson, as well as the subsequent one he had with Christopher Chalfant:
At least flat-earthers can go to it’s farthest edges to avoid the catastrophes that arrogant, naked-emperor “scientists” may allow to occur.
See also:
Bogus “UFO Expert” Prof. Robin Hanson Admits He Lied
Article on Apophis Planetary Defense Campaign:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/ac66eb
Figure 8 (shown below). Hypothetical impact swaths for epochs 0/1, 2, and 3. The impact swaths represent all possible considered impact positions and asteroid properties. A hypothetical impact would only occur at one position along the swath, but all possible positions are shown. The rings show the extent of different levels of damage for specific impact locations along the swath.
Looks like the image showing the possible impact swaths is not showing. Maybe this will work better:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/ac66eb#psjac66ebf8
Since the predicted 2029 impact locations pass through central Europe, between North sea and Black sea, in accordance with what was written in CR 150, then 2029 and not 2036 is when the impact in Europe would happen. No way yet of knowing where it would hit in 2036.
For any skeptics, although the hypothetical impact swath covers a lot of area, the chances of simply guessing an impact location that lies on this swath is small.
The “big pond” mentioned could be the black sea and according to this prophecy “in the year of the three-value” propably means that the actual hit is the 2036 approach.
Am I missing something?
Saturday, January 31, 1976, 01:05 AM
A meteor from space – comet-like, races close and crashes in the big pond, the air it burns up as a glowing ball, in the year of the three-value, with terrible sound, with terrible howling, gigantic power, as death-missile it crashes on the Earth. As concentrated power racing through space, it brings a deadly destroying seed. Mountains, they crash and life, it dies; a death-monster, which now spoils much, loud cry the people in a sizeable choir, their misery upward to Creation in heaven. They scream and cry and plead with her, for much blessing and love and help from now on but they never thought about the great law, about the love-commandment, which they broke. They lived along, passing Creation by, because all-the-while love was immaterial to them. Only the punishing power of the highest one, allows a few to find their way back to the greatest One.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Prophetien_und_Voraussagen_(Book)
I guess 2036 would be a sure hit, if we don’t do anything! 2029 would probably just be a flyby. But close enough to scare the h… out of all those religious freaks and some scientists too.
“So much for the PHONY religious godhood FREAKS!”
If it does flyby not hit in 2029 without its course being altered it would probably be well past the end of any action we can take against deflecting it, it will be in the gravitational keyhole meaning it will be like one of those coins that go round and around before ending up in the hole at the fair.
There’s one other item that we should also consider. The Petale level could have been using the correct calendar time versus the incorrect Christian calendar time.
I can’t remember exactly how many years we are off, but according to the contact reports below, 2029 would actually be 2033. It may have been stated somewhere in the contacts about the exact time difference, but even if we were off by 2 or 3 years, that would still put us in the 2030’s for the first date.
Enjana:
43. The bones urn that you mention, as our research has clarified, is a forgery, in the sense that it is declared as James’ urn, which has nothing to do with the bones of James, Jmmanuel’s brother, for he actually died in Srinagar, as did Jmmanuel, who was buried in Srinagar in 115, according to his correct birth time.
44. According to the so-called Christian calendar, this applies to the year 111.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_334
Billy:
With that, you are absolutely right, of course – moreover, I also did not have in mind to take up anything of the idiotic alarmists and scaremongers of these irresponsible ones, for I think that there is already enough anxiety among the people of this Earth. But still, it is a fact that the crazy preachers of the end of the world are experiencing an economic boom just this year, especially since 1998 is a threefold year that, when divided by 3, yields 666, which, in turn, is contained in the number 1998 three times. This, of course, gives occasion for the doomsday prophets and sectarians, etc. to bring everything negative and bad down from the heavens or up from the imaginary hell. And the fact that the reputed year 2000 stands right before the door, this still contributes a lot to the gloom. And especially in this respect, no one talks about or no one has a clue that our calendar is not correct at all and that the year 2000 is long over, and indeed, since the year 1996, or rather since 1993, depending on which historically authoritative beginning of the Christian Era is taken, whereby according to my calculation, the year 1996 must have actually been the year 2000 A.D.
Ptaah:
7. With that, you are not wrong, in terms of the aforementioned things.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260
I’m pretty sure the calendar reference(s) are described in Contact Report 150, a little bit half-way down the page or so; oddly enough, I was just reading that contact report yesterday, funny how life syncs up sometimes.
I know I’ve stated it before, but truth deserves repeating. Thanks for all you do Melissa, you’re such an astronomically valuable person for the mission, this website and this planet, I’m privileged to know you, keep it up the fantastic work and efforts sister! 🙂
Take great care of yourself and your loved ones Melissa and everyone, all as one!
Salome,
Charles
Thank you Charles!!
It appears that we are off by 6 years now. That would put the first date in the 2030s and the second date in the 2040s.
Quetzal:
462. However, it must be explained at the outset that the present earthly calculation of time does not correspond to the truthful calculation of time, because at the beginning of this new time human beings made various transgressions of time which were never recorded.
463. As is known to you, the new calendar is calculated after Jmmanuel, although, this calendar already differs by six (6) years, in the form that six years too few have been calculated.
464. This is, by the way, a fact that is even known to those responsible for terrestrial time calculation, who know exactly, that according to the year 1981, that must already become calculated with the year 1987.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
My pleasure Melissa 🙂
Reading the Contact Report 150 yesterday made me nervous, in the sense that there are apparently two calendars and I’m not sure if our guesstimations or time-frames for certain/upcoming events are correct. Maybe not so, but if we’re off by 6 years, would that entail that Apophis could/would arrive this year from the first “flyby” in 2029? I hope not especially considering if true, we’re about a week or so away from Apophis’ first “flyby”.
I’m just writing out loud one of the thoughts that have been in my head since yesterday.
I’ll just have to dig a little deeper and see what else can be illuminated.
Take great care of yourself and your loved ones Melissa and everyone!
Salome,
Charles
I think the dates in the contacts are adjusted to the Christian calendar, but my feeling is that the Petale level would logically use the correct dates. Therefore, it would be 2029 by our time reckoning.
Would the 2033 date correspond with the information so far from scientists regarding when Apophis would first approach the earth?
Otherwise, wouldn’t it already be a few years gone and past the currently accepted 2029 estimate?
I think that the 2029 date is accurate and corresponds to the estimates of the scientists, which is based on the Christian or Gregorian Calendar.
I was trying to work out if the Petale level would use the true calendar time rather than the false Christian calendar time. The Petale level says that Apophis will hit in the year of the three-value. If we use the true calendar, 2029 will actually be in the year of the 3-value. It would make sense since the estimates for 2029 show a path through the North Sea and the Black Sea.
Why won`t this world “GROW UP”?
Greetings Terry,
I hope you’re doing well my friend 🙂
My first answer/thought to your question is:
A majority of the people on this planet first need to grow before they can grow up.
So many people are stuck in their thoughts/ways that there is simply no room for them to grow (all self-created of course), let alone, for them to grow up.
Take great care of yourself and your loved ones Terry!
Salome,
Charles
Ether this child word is stuck under the rug or worse stuck in the mud. Thanks Charles I hope you and your love ones and friends are doing well too. Stay safe. Salome Terry
Terry.
Perhaps because we’re genetically manipulated with ageing and aggression
junk. Shrugs.
D.
Hanson needs to get off the false logic “stat” train and realize that Meier’s evidence (1200 photos, 6 home videos, 2 sound recordings and 100+ secondary eye witnesses, just to name a few) has yet to be disproven or recreated in full by anyone. So the “odds” of it being legitimate are well above 99.9%. How’s that for a “in context stat”?
Also if he wanted to know the context of each photo that was taken and presented as evidence then he should really watch the Meier investigative team run by Wendelle Stevens who proved Meier’s evidence is valid and cannot be recreated with modern technology much less technology available in the 1970s.
Then again this is logic and doesn’t require a statistical context for him to analyze so he probably wouldn’t understand it. LOL
Yes, this is the point every sceptic fails to understand. All the evidence is there and if only ONE example is proven it validates Billy’s case of extraterrestrial origin.
As Joe Tysk said as well (https://theyflyblog.com/2018/01/joe-tysk-ret-usaf-osi-dept-of-defense-investigator-case-supervisor-concludes-billy-meier-ufo-case-real/):
“…it only took one irrefutable piece of evidence to exonerate John Doe and prove him innocent.”
Thank Joe:-)))) High Fives to you Joe:))))
And how can we be safe for Apophis
Greetings Hjweber,
To ensure Apophis doesn’t hit Earth on April 13, 2029 or April 13th, 2036:
Our scientists and individuals within the space programs the world over need to unify, put their pride aside, work together and utilize the correct Pi number (i.e. 3.144… instead of 3.141…) in order to mathematically and correctly formulate an approach that will “push” the asteroid off course via a nuclear explosion. Something tells me our Russian friends in their space agency/agencies will lead the way in formulating and correctly deploying the viable solution, especially with the correct maths (i.e. Pi = 3.144…) implemented.
We would need to create a nuclear explosion strong enough to not directly hit, impact or blow up the asteroid, but to merely “push” the asteroid off course via the “waves” the nuclear explosion would create in space, thus repelling and/or pushing it off course without directly damaging or hitting the asteroid and creating a shower of meteorites (I think meteorites is the correct term, I’ll stand corrected if not) which would hit the Earth in so many different places and further compromise life on our planet.
As far as surviving Apophis should it hit Earth:
Personally, to start, I would not live anywhere near the Black or Red Sea during those two specific time-frames; a bit of an over-simplification, but I think that would be a great first start. That is apparently the impact zone should Apophis hit the Earth (between the Black and Red Sea). Honestly, I don’t have too much information on what to do should Apophis hit, just my own thoughts. Each person has to do the best they can with what they know and are capable of doing in order for self-preservation to kick in. Stocking up on supplies, medicines, tangible currencies, build an underground bunker (except near the ocean) and stock the bunker up with life-saving supplies (i.e food, medicine, water, power-sources, etc.), group yourself with like-minded individuals. These are just a few options, personalize it for your life.
There’s a lot people can do, however, since everyone is different, different solutions will apply to all. Furthermore, individually and collectively, not doing anything will bring more darkness to this planet (as if we need any more darkness on this beautiful yet dying planet).
Not doing anything will be the greatest cost to all life-forms on this planet, especially considering we already have the foresight, knowledge & technical capabilities at our fingertips.
The aforementioned are merely my thoughts on what should be done; the suggestions are based upon my own thinking and the information I’ve researched, read, absorbed and articulated from the suggestions via Eduard, the Plejaren, Michael’s website(s), the FutureOfManKind.co.uk website, etc. As stated, there isn’t a one solution fits all, like life, we need to personalize our approach to/for/in life.
If we want to survive and live our lives, we need to be pro-active, put our differences aside and work together. We can’t win at life if we’re inactive and/or passive. Life is an active pursuit, it is not a passive undertaking.
Life is like the lottery, you can’t win it if you ain’t in it.
Take great care of yourself and your loved ones Hjweber and everyone!
Salome,
Charles
I think I should’ve written Black Sea and the North Sea, not the Red Sea, my mistake.
Salome,
Charles
The value of 3.144.. is not the value of pi. On a basic level 3.144 lies outside the range established by Archimedes who determined analytically that pi is between 3 10/71 and 3 1/7.
https://www.exploratorium.edu/pi/history-of-pi
“The first calculation of π was done by Archimedes of Syracuse (287–212 BC), one of the greatest mathematicians of the ancient world. Archimedes approximated the area of a circle by using the Pythagorean Theorem to find the areas of two regular polygons: the polygon inscribed within the circle and the polygon within which the circle was circumscribed. Since the actual area of the circle lies between the areas of the inscribed and circumscribed polygons, the areas of the polygons gave upper and lower bounds for the area of the circle. Archimedes knew that he had not found the value of π but only an approximation within those limits. In this way, Archimedes showed that π is between 3 1/7 and 3 10/71.”
I’m not going to get into any nitpicking about pi, but I will link to the information that was provided by FIGU in regards to pi being solved. It will then be up to each individual to decide for themselves.
https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Periodicals/FIGUsignofthetimes/2017/No077/ImportantinformationfortheCircleNumberPi-sec.pdf
Thanks for the clarity/further information Phil.
Details do in fact matter; with that being written, my brain hurts with all the numbers and maths floating around today; need to give my brain matter a little break, that’s why I’ll leave the technical specifics to the experts lol
Thanks again Phil, take great care of yourself and your loved ones!
Salome,
Charles
In my scrapbook from along time ago when I was playing with waveguides and water splitting, I have written the value of pi as 20612 : 6561 googling this I found on a website https://www.svpwiki.com/12.22—The-Continuing-PI-Rant “The true value of PI as given by Keely/Parker is 20612 : 6561 which must remain an integer ratio of two whole numbers and NEVER REDUCED to a decimal equivalent, which is where the error comes in. These numbers are to be regarded as parts of a whole relative to each other.”
I do agree this makes no difference to Apophis however, if the margin for error is that small that getting pedantic about mathematics makes a difference to a possible ELE, the risk is too high anyway.
If Apophis does hit it will be very hard for anyone on the planet to survive, if it impacts land, the dust alone will mean plummeting temperatures, similar to a nuclear winter it will impact with the equivalent energy of 1200 megatons of TNT according to some researchers, Tsar Bomba the biggest ever detonated here was 58Mt, If its in the ocean then huge tsunamis. Either will cause huge earthquakes. I would also be worried about the effect of having nuclear power plants and their fuel pools vaporised into dust and sent up into the atmosphere, or at least multiple (hundreds) of them melting down when they become damaged or have their cooling supply fail. We are talking about a hell of a lot of power stations here in this area. Germany seems to have woken up to the threat of them but many of the surrounding countries have not.
Think Cumbre Vieja would be triggered by Apophis if that event doesn’t occur before?
The way this world is acting and behaving,I`d say BOTH:-((((
Right now the scientists are certain that Apophis will not impact in 2029, although they admit it will fly by very close. There seems to be uniformity in this position. However, there is a vast area of space where it is moving and in that space other influences can affect its trajectory which are unknown to our scientists. It is dangerous to assume that they are correct when it is coming by so close and the consequences are so devastating. Anything that big and close needs mandatory protocols to deflect it. There seems to be a dangerous mindset among scientists that the 2029 flyby provides a rich opportunity for close examination of the asteroid since it is something like a 1 in a 1000 year occurrence. But if they deflect it then obviously it won’t fly by nearly so close and the scientists will miss out on a rare observation opportunity.
Came upon this video the other day, it’s from individuals from UCLA discussing about pi and the real number derived from the golden ratio. At 3:20 they talk about NASA using a corrected value.They also quoted Billy.
Title: The TRUE value of pi
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U25egrXLU2w
Please give the time where they talk about Meier.
Hi. At 4:49 he says Billy Meier!
MH.
Billy is mentioned at 4:46 on timeline.
D.
4:40 and 46.15 are the time stamps where Billy is mentioned.
47.49 shows the guest list of the speakers for the International conference on “Is Pi A Lie?”
Maybe Joe Breen, the presenter of the video, will go the the conference and show Billy’s information to all the attendees. That would be something!
The participants are mocking all the data (including Billy’s info) being discussed in that pi video. The cheeky smiles all around and pig filter is a big clue. It’s way the younger generation ‘take the piss’ these days in a more subtle way, as they can be ostracised socially if they go whole hog and offend anyone.
It’s so pathetically sad that young adults have to behave in such a stupid manner. How many mature adults would degrade a scientific discussion with a pig filter? It appears that many in the younger generations have lost their backbones. They are afraid to stand up for the truth, but even worse, they are incapable of understanding the truth.
Hello everyone, if we are off six years on the calculation of our time , it’s 2029 right now , and April 13th is fast approaching. This asteroid thing is pretty dam serious. In a way , it’s an exciting time , we get to actually live the things predicted long ago. We will live what others will only read about in history books. Spooky as hell.
Hi Barry,
Luckily, it doesn’t work that way. It won’t be 2029 until 2029.
When we hit 2029, the true solar calendar date will be somewhere around 2035. Our calendar is off by a number of years, but the dates in the contact reports are adjusted to the Christian calendar. From my understanding, the Petale Prophecies are very old, so when they foretold that the Red Meteor would hit Earth in the year of the three-value, they were likely using the true solar calendar date.
The estimated path for 2029 matches what Billy predicted for the North and Black Sea. The estimated path for the 2036 impact isn’t anywhere near the North and Black Sea.
Petale Prophecy
A meteor from space – comet-like, races close and crashes in the big pond, the air it burns up as a glowing ball, in the year of the three-value, with terrible sound, with terrible howling, gigantic power, as death-missile it crashes on the Earth. As concentrated power racing through space, it brings a deadly destroying seed. Mountains, they crash and life, it dies; a death-monster, which now spoils much, loud cry the people in a sizeable choir, their misery upward to Creation in heaven. They scream and cry and plead with her, for much blessing and love and help from now on but they never thought about the great law, about the love-commandment, which they broke. They lived along, passing Creation by, because all-the-while love was immaterial to them. Only the punishing power of the highest one, allows a few to find their way back to the greatest One.
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Prophetien_und_Voraussagen_(Book)#Saturday.2C_January_31.2C_1976.2C_01:05_AM
From https://www.earth.com/news/sbag-advises-nasa-to-explore-asteroid-apophis-before-its-close-flyby-of-earth-in-2029/
“The Small Bodies Assessment Group (SBAG) of NASA has urged the space agency to launch a spacecraft with the sole mission of exploring Apophis before its anticipated close flyby of Earth in 2029.
The body believes “the collected data will provide a complete investigation of this remarkable opportunity to quantify and understand in real time the consequences of planetary tides on the evolution of asteroids and glean important information on Apophis’ interior structure, which is otherwise unobtainable.”
So why send a probe to investigate Apophis before the 2029 flyby and to learn about its interior structure when it can just as easily be done after its flyby? Maybe there are concerns that there might be more to Apophis than originally thought.
From the 1976 prophecy:
A meteor from space – comet-like, races close and crashes in the big pond…
The key word is “comet-like”. So far scientists have accounted for gravity and the Yarkovsky effect to predict the orbital path of Apophis. But if Apophis is “comet-like” based on the prophecy that means there is one thing that scientists left out of their model predictions, and that is outgassing – the phenomenon by which a comet loses gas which is made visible by a long tail. This outgassing produces a tiny thrust which will definitely affect the trajectory of Apophis over time. This can make the difference between a near-miss and direct hit. Efforts to have Apophis investigated up close before the 2029 flyby might be because some scientists want to check whether or not Apophis has the potential to outgas, or if it’s already doing so.
(Not sure if the following has already been mentioned)
The Potential Impact of Apophis
Cr 150 (Henoch Prophecies)
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
503. The non-hearing will find many deaths for this, when the meteor begins its work of death and creates a new part of the Earth through a vast rift of the Earth from the North Sea to the Black Sea, out of which the glowing lava will pour, if the prophecy should be fully fulfilled, which, however, is not yet determined to the last consequence.
509. Regarding the expected Earth rift, I already told you that it will divide the land between the North Sea and the Black Sea
510. Glowing lava masses and earth gases, etc. will then additionally create a deadly sulphur wall from this, which will drift westwards over the land and thus create an additional death zone, if the prophecy should actually be fully fulfilled, if the Earth-humans do not undertake something about it together.
Jmmanuel’s Prophecy TJ – Chapter 25
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Prophetien_und_Voraussagen_(Book)#The_Talmud_of_Jmmanuel_.E2.80.93_The_Prophecy_25th_Chapter_.28excerpt.29
7. But Jmmanuel answered and said: Two thousand years will pass and some additional time, ….
(Jmmanuel describes the wars and the ‘… great affliction, which has never happened before since the beginning of the world and will never happen again’)
44. But soon after the tribulation of that distant time, the sun and mon will lose their light, and the comets (Apophis?) will fall down from heaven (2029 -2036?), and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
45. The framework of the Earth’s heavens and the atmosphere will be disturbed, and the land will burn due to the black oil of the Earth, ignited by the power greed of mankind, and the sky will darken from smoke as fire, which thus will rage for one thousand days and it will cover everything over the burning land and far beyond it with black soot. And therefore, the weather will collapse and severe cold and manifold deaths will come over mankind, the plants and animals and over the Earth, due to the unreasonably deployed force of mankind, who will live in greed for power and passion and vice.
If Apophis were to hit our planet – impacts apart from the rift in the earth crust
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Location-of-European-refineries-Interactive-map-of-the-European-commission-European_fig3_328901423
https://br.pinterest.com/pin/189432728064987151/
BTW – Christian Frehner (in a recent email exchange) –
“What the Red Meteor concerns, I think that the catastrophe will occur because I don’t see any serious attempts to plan counter-measures.””