Too pooped to pucker when it comes to UFOs and prophecies?
In addition to sending And Did They Listen? To Trump, Clinton and Sanders, I recently sent an email* to the board members of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, which includes Daniel Ellsberg, Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald and others. These people obviously aren’t slouches, they have been, and still are, very actively involved in various forms of whistleblowing and getting important information out to the public.
In the email, I presented an overview of Billy Meier’s specific warnings about events which, largely because of the successful suppression of his information by various powers, have unfolded as foretold. If ever there was information that should have long been made available to the public for its evaluation and consideration, this is it.
No Answer Is also an Answer
However, hopeful as I was, it appears that the good folks at FotPF quickly succumbed to extraparadigmitization, i.e. complete befuddlement over that which lies well outside of their sphere of knowledge or experience; in one millisecond after realizing that it had something to do with UFOs, prophecies, etc., they must have decided to not review and research the information, or even risk trying to refute, ridicule or debunk it.
Groundhog Day…Again
Good as these journalists may be, they’re still mainly focused on the familiar, churning, circus-like, political environment that generates most of the news of the day. But for many of us it’s like watching – or being stuck in – Groundhog Day, as the long foretold events predictably occur, mysteriously surprising only to those who were unaware of the warnings and who also, strangely, don’t want to be disturbed by them.
Now this report about the turning away of many nations from the US echoes precisely what Meier reported in 1987**. And while he specifically foretold that the EU would become a dictatorship in 1958 – years before it was even formed – this article gives credence to his prognostication, decades later.
My guess is that we could send our friends at FotPF endless corroborations of Meier’s information and it would effectively remain invisible to them…so long as it has anything to do with UFOs, “prophets”, etc.
Never mind that Meier’s specific, prophetically accurate information spans 65 years, that he’s sought neither fame nor fortune and has the most well documented life of any historical, let alone still living, person. We’re more interested in the endless pack of profiteers and liars who vie for power, control and advantage over others. We love to pretend that it’s going to be different this time because we’ve been infantilized and conditioned to believe in the fairy tales and unfulfilled promises of religion and politics, instead of having been taught the law of…cause and effect.
Expiration Date
As 2020 looms as a possible expiration date for the US as a super-power, there may be an awful lot of regret in retrospect for not having at least ventured a little farther down this road less traveled. Even the best of people can forget their original purpose and be all too easily seduced by concerns of popularity and political correctness once they secure some position, even if it wasn’t formerly their concern or intention to do so. Groundbreakers and way-showers too can become complacent and comfortable when fame and fortune have accrued.
Call the Cops
I also sent information to INTERPOL**** in hopes that they would heed the warnings and use their vast resources to also encourage their various police and military contacts to understand and act upon the real gravity of the situation with the IS. There was no acknowledgment that they received the message.
*Hi Trevor et al,
I am writing you after reading this powerful piece today. For several decades, the Swiss man I represent, Mr. “Billy” Eduard Albert Meier, has been trying to forewarn of very specific events that have subsequently occurred…and continue to do so. He has survived numerous attempts on his life for his trouble.
The mainstream media suppression continues, which is why YOU have never heard of him or, if you did, were told that it was a “hoax”.
Fortunately, two of my films about him and his information are being represented at Cannes this month.
In 1958, Meier not only specifically warned about the two US-Iraq Gulf Wars – and the exact president that would lead them – but also about the coming dangers of worldwide bio-chipping…and irrepressible, worldwide fundamentalist Islamist terrorism. In 1987, he specifically foretold not only the current Russian military movements and the Ebola epidemic but also the WTC attack and subsequent US push for globalization and the phony war on terrorism – as well as two coming US civil wars, etc. Meier may have also scooped Edward Snowden regarding the NSA-Microsoft connection…in 2007.
Whatever side of the political aisle we may be on, common concerns must prevail. And if Meier’s information about the current presence of IS sleepers in Europe is correct, we will all lament that our call for international military action – almost two years ago – wasn’t heeded.
Some very negative things could still be avoided if enough people simply knew about this and…decided its validity and relevance for themselves. For the sake of rational self-interest, I ask you to…look through the proverbial telescope and respond, if even to express your doubts, etc. Because one skeptical professor did, I just made my second presentation at NAU and now also have the support of this former NASA aerospace engineer.
I ask you to risk feeling foolish, if needs be, to consider for a moment that maybe we don’t know everything; I ask you to do whatever it takes to thoroughly, rigorously…honestly challenge, question and vet this information, which may be the key to our future survival.
I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
** 193. The military politics of the USA will likewise know no limits, as neither will their economic and other political institutions which will be focused on building and operating a world police force, as it is the case already for a long time [sic].
194. But that will not be enough, and, in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation, American politics will aspire to gain absolute control of the world concerning supremacy in economy.
195. And this will point towards the possibility that a Third World War could develop from it, if human beings as a whole will not finally reflect upon reason, become reasonable and undertake the necessary steps against the insane machinations of their governments and military powers as well as their secret services, and call a halt to the power of the irresponsible who have forsaken their responsibility in all areas.
196. If this does not happen, many small and great nations will lose their independence and their cultural identity and will be beaten down, because the USA will gain predominance over them and with evil force bring them down under her rule.
197. At first, many countries will howl with the wolves of the US, partially due to fear of American aggressions and sanctions, as will be the case with many, many irresponsible [ones] in Switzerland and Germany but also of other countries. In part, others will join in because they will be forced somehow to do so or will be misled by irresponsible promoters of American propaganda.
198. Finally, many Asian, African and European states will rise up against the American hegemony, once they recognise that the United States of America is only taking advantage of them for purposes of war, conquest and exploitation.
199. In this way, many countries will become puppet states of America before reason and realisation will emerge in the responsible ones of governments and in many of the population, resulting in a turning away from the USA.
*** Dear INTERPOL,
For decades, very specific warnings have been issued pertaining to the ever-increasing dangers of Islamist terrorism.
I am including the link below so that you can review the information in, and even more linked from, it:
The People Were Warned and SOMEBODY Listened, Part 2
Now Putin calls for “a modern, non-aligned system of international security” to fight the threat of global terror.
While the source of this impeccably accurate information is certainly controversial, the important thing is that it – finally – gets acted upon, despite it’s having been effectively suppressed…for decades.
As the major international police agency, it is incumbent upon you to set aside all political considerations and assist in uniting all law enforcement efforts in preventing what will otherwise result, about which there should be little doubt:
83.) And it will be that fanatical Islamists carry out bloody revenge on the distant descendants of the Christians, for their earlier crusades when they accomplish their deadly and destructive acts through irrepressible terror all over the world.
And I’ll also inform you that two of my films on this information are being represented at the Cannes Film Market by Adler & Associates, should you wish to review them. In them I included Meier’s (1987) warnings about the attacks on France and Europe from radical Islam that were already on my first DVD in 2004.
Also, please note that skeptical university Prof. Scott Antes said, “…about the Paris bombings? I knew this one was on its way” because of the Meier information.
I look forward to your acknowledgment of these concerns.
Sincerely,
Authorized American Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
Thanks to Chris Lock for the information.
I can see how the plejaren say it will take 800 more years before we here on earth become real human beings .. The Meier Contacts and information is right in front of their faces… Truth is always fought against … People really only get it when they work diligently, only then are the true cognitions realized …
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Hi Barry, am i correct in my thinking taking into account the reincarnation (or incarnation), of myself over the 800 years, that I should come back about six times roughly speaking. I suppose many people who know/read the information from BM and the PJ’s will be wishing they will skip the WW3 time frame, and by skip I mean not be born into that time. Maybe if you are born into that time, then its for a reason, so you can experience the hardships etc.
Lol. What is this? Were you drunk last night?
Jared Farland, your post is just about the silliest thing I’ve seen all week. Thx, you put a smile on my face this morning. Just hilarious.
Jared – He could have also been a gardener, train driver, hotel manager. But that does not matter as you point out, the important part is that without the plejaren he would have still, sometimes even out of hand, blurted out visions of the future, or wanted more stimulating conversation, and may have even developed an array of complex for himself, just like many of us do. Because as you point out, an evolutionary responsibility will carry over a period of time regardless, the short age at which we die only means that if anything we are subject to confusion and unfortunately delusion on the small scale on the mid scale and unfortunately on the larger scale too. I at least recognise what you’ve said Jared, and it is regrettable I admit that not everyone is bound to discover the value of what the plejaren, billy are trying to say, even if it’s involuntary for them to suppress what they need to say, it is the same for several millions regular people too, that they cannot help it, they have important designations to explain important information to others, and often what happens is that we cannot find our way to our designated groove in life to fit neatly into the society we find ourselves in, and often we are not listened to, that’s the good bit, we are usually pursued and attacked in one form or another because the record we play is not the same as other people. But there are also special other circumstances where some people do find the right way to exist and it’s usually those that turn into great individuals for what ever reason. Gwen stefani is a name, I don’t want to hand out all the names, even giving this name is controversial.
Perhaps Jared you are too young to be listened to. No life experience, no real clue as to what is and isn’t. How long have you been reading the material? A month or two? I guess you haven’t quite figured out yet that Billy’s information would probably take your whole life to get through and implement. Btw the mod here does a fantastic job, so suck it up princess. That’s actually pretty funny that you think people on this blog are unspiritual, while you assume you are the most spiritual of all. Remember what happens when you assume something…
Lets have a moment of silence to contemplate the insignificance of Jared’s opinion.
Jared =mentally unstable?
FYI, I won’t be posting any more of the personal attacks against each other. Everyone’s had their say.
Please…STAY ON TOPIC.
jared = troll
Reminder:
FYI, I won’t be posting any more of the personal attacks against each other. Everyone’s had their say.
Please…STAY ON TOPIC.
Are you going to help us then?
This whole thing could use more hands I’m sure.
Please, though – it’s not year 0 anymore. Let go of the doom and gloom presentation, will you? If you’re not guilty of insulting folks right back, then great – you’ve proven yourself to be superior to the rest of us.
Unfortunately, you went right into intense aggression, so congratulations – now, by your own ausgeartet reaction, you’ve made yourself into just another regular “unspiritual retard” like you accuse the rest of us of being. So, that’s done.
So now, let’s put that whole mess to rest and keep on building up higher in cooperativeness, shall we? Mistakes were made, and now mistakes are over with. Right?
If one’s intention is to reach more people, keep in mind that those identified may not even see the package…but some of their aides probably will. Also, if you click on the flag on this blog, you’ll notice that we have visitors from…170 countries (182 at http://www.theyfly.com). Not bad for sites with no outside advertising on them and basically word of mouth.
My suggestion is to address the very present negativity in your own life and start to imagine what it would be like if you were forging your life with neutral-positive thinking and a sense of fellowship.
If all you want to do is come here and complain, be the resident downer, etc., I tell you openly that your comments won’t be posted for much longer. There are people here who surely will be glad to interact with you in ways that will be helpful…if you want.
Along with the topic of fellowship – hey Michael, do you ship out that Modafilan stuff to Canada?
I’m no doctor, but I’ve wondered at times if my own paleness and now and then fatigue doesn’t result at least partially from all this invisible radiation that’s said to be wafting in free from those quite generous nuclear power plants, which really give us so much without asking anything in return. Just a great generosity there.
How can I order some of that stuff? Will you take an e-transfer from my bank account into yours?
Yes, Tyler, I do ship to Canada.
Pleas email me for the details and allow a day or so for me to respond.
Hehe.. “allow” you say. You almost make me feel like a guy who’s got you by some kind of snare.
….. That’s not true is it? You do work really hard to bring us these things …
What can a responsibility-conscious guy do to lighten up that work-load a bit? Take your time, man … Please don’t feel in a rush on my account there. But, now I’m curious: is there an exceptional cost to get set up as a distributor of this kind of thing? Now I’m all wondering here, and wondering if we can share some of this workload. If it’s feasible for me, then I’m in for it.
Well I’ll do my own research then. So I’m capable of doing that.
Jared, I’m listening. Sorry about my own rudeness back there in the gone past. I’m about to shut off my devices for the night so I can get sleep, but if you have some insights, please share. I don’t care about being called a “spiritual retard”, but do care about getting the most results from my own actions. So if you know a way to reach people more effectively than what’s already being done, I’ll listen.
Sorry I misspelled a couple of words in my last blog. First off when I emailed the Prophecies and Predictions to my wespac organization and Democracy Now I left out the Plejaren,Billy Meier UFO issue for the very reason of being ridiculed and the giggle factor out of fear of not being taken seriously on a very very serious issue of saving our lives here on earth. It`s just better to go strait forward and not mention UFOs, Billy and the P`s and hope the general public will get and head and take these warnings more seriously otherwise we will ALL PERRISH here on earth!” Why wait 800 years to become more human,moral and ethical Etc,etc,etc? After all I`ll be DEAD by then!:-((((
Look, nothing has changed on Earth since Semjase first spoke to Billy in 1975. Why? Because people get involved with: false astrologers, politicians, university professors, and other unspiritual people who will never accept the spiritual teachings, and other truth, the Plejaren have brought to Earth, which are the only things that can change the world, and prevent the Henoch Prophecies from manifesting fully. You should focus your efforts on reaching the spiritually minded people on Earth who recognize all of the evil on this planet, and who want to learn and change. You will find nothing but failure, as you have for decades, with mainstream pro-Establishment people. There’s probably only a 1000 people in the world who have accepted the Meier material as we speak. And the Plejaren have left Earth for good, abandoned the mission, because it failed. People must learn and change, or they will suffer and be killed. This is not a game. WW3 is at the doorstep.
I think these type of exchanges are healthy , and I admit I too l, like alot of us are in a position that we never thought our lives would end up in this position. We all got lied to pretty badly when we get down to it and thats a concrete commonality. To even make an effort to read the work of Michael and Billy and Contact reports is a pretty massive road to navigate.
Personally , I found great comfort in my reading that along the way I was reading the greatest story ever told or I was reading truthful works of more than one person.
For me when I continuously put my skepticism ahead of my enthusiasm,I question everything. It passed my test. Even a critical literary component as a critic looking at Billy and the potential for a most unique writing style that was very brittle and hard most of the time. Not creatively or elequently embellished , UNTIL I began to see a real relationship present itself with BEAM and Semjase. I realized that they really did have a great love for one another and in this brutal truth that was being recalled and factually and scientifically documented , I found a literary style of simple adoration coming through. A real one , not a writer trying to write about a fondness. It does come through and it inherently adds to an honest and deeper understanding of what is actually taking place.
So with some 27 thousand written pages , hundreds of books and only a small percentage translated , this is still in its infancy.
I just don’t see where Jared can say that no change has taken place since the 1975 time frame. I hope he jumps in to clear that up , because I don’t understand that.
Many times the reports are documentations , very intentionally disclosed as such. If anyone reads court documents they are pretty stiff. In this case they are very carefully organized and include certain dialect and cadence and coding in the high German language that I have not even gotten into since I am still learning high German.
Alot of folks don’t post much here because they are honest with the fact that they are still learning and have alot more to go into regarding reading and contemplating this vast work.
Like I said , I try to learn from everyone, and I guess I am guilty at posting the sad state of deep affairs going on now like the Space Fence recently outlined in a previous post. I don’t mean to go off track , but sometimes to understand how insane your leaders are and how they plan on population control still needs to be considered real time. I feel we need to be aware of it all, in context. Since we live in it. So I feel alot has changed , and the most exciting part is that the laws of nature tell us every action has an opposite yet equal reaction. If you acknowledge all the crazy evil these mad people are involved in now you have to come to the realization that the opposite yet equal reaction is just waiting to be unleashed!
So its better to get it out now before it is unleashed in compassion and assistance of fellow man after all the cargnage and doom takes place. If we use whats in the bank to stop it first its much better spent.
Either way , that chose is still now one you can make. If you choose to pull up a stool and say you have a front row seat. I ask to which event? The destruction or the prevention of.
So Jared alot has changed , and alot more will change if we make a decision to change it. Do nothing and expect nothing but utter destruction world wide. Just hoping that it doesn’t happen is very foolish. I can assure you as did BEAM it is going to happen and right on schedule.
Actually, what I have found from the conversations Billy has with these alleged contacts is that you have an intelligence that comes across as sounding profoundly non-materialistic (i.e evolved) to the point it doesn’t make sense to folks living in a different believed reality. After all, they sound evolved but not what folks from a strictly material-centric view would understand. So folks cannot discern the disconnect because they’re living the ma-ma-terial way long before Madonna sang in praise of it; no different than their ancestors 5+ millennia ago. It’s to the point where the alleged Plejarans CLEARLY point out the levels of consciousness and evolution and squarely put Earth Humanity at where it is, no matter how Earth flatteringly boring we actually are.
Of course, being ever the materialistic matured folks, the vast majority cannot actually believe their fantastic world of titles, pomp, and ceremonial parading is based on such a trivial materialistic view point. Instead, Earth Humanity EMBRACES even more this materialistic view to the point everything is being done to gain some sort of materialistic benefit from and why the association with women’s makeup is akin to ‘hure’ (if I can recall that correctly). The whole concept of Creation, no matter how literal you say you can profess it, isn’t getting through because Earth Humanity cannot believe it is “only” itself.
Yea bob, you’re just bob on the Planet Ke-bob ride.
So, the folks that believe some form of “system” derived strictly from a unconsciously materialistic conscious viewpoint will always fail because the natural evolution towards finer material evolution isn’t there (unless you’re a scientist with dubious intelligence credentials – but only just). There will always be materialistic considerations to be taken care of. BUT, a change for the better cannot be done if consciously people unscrupulously just pursue robbing everything of it’s natural abundance. So long as people continue to burden themselves materially, we will dig BIGGER materialistic gaps we cannot recover from as at some point not everyone is going to get a car, house, air conditioner, and “free” food. So it is no wonder why the #1 issue from the alleged Plejaran is Over Population. It’s practically O B V I O U S unless you’re too cool for stool.
So, sorry rap master Stevey-G Q-SETI is too materialistic in its “spirituality” vomit and why they avoid the truth of the Meier material, because he doesn’t actually understand it any better than those other things people chase after. It’s blatant pursuit of materialistic riches stemming from fantastic technology cannot ever be made available to everyone because of the fact this group refuses to understand it is barely evolved and at the very beginnings of seeing that there is a fine material evolution of things. In fact, the whole UFO subject clearly is a materialistic example of stunted stupidity that only can be found in this corner of the galaxy as quipped by the alleged extraterrestrials.
Good Luck to you folks here.
Well, today I’m just going to go to the printer and make off another copy of the overpopulation crusade to send off someplace then.
It’s amazing and just unfortunate imo – when we finally do get the total truth-teaching handed to us, it’s at the time when finally most of us have got no pineal gland size left to mainly recognise a major aspect of it.
Oh well. No sense complaining, especially when there’s action that could be taken today. Have a good one all.
Well said Ned:)
You’ve said several profound things there and many interesting things. As your thinking is developed enough in these areas I wondered if I might expand into something with you by asking whether you had thought about this.
That all humans on all worlds are this way, the way you explain it. The part I wanted to examine was that we would really have made a lot of progress all round if we as a world could do that, but the interesting thing is that some of us can already by our nature and being, to be less materialistic about everything. So some of us already on earth are highly advanced human beings if only that could recognised, unfortunately risky to identify it, being taken advantage of etc. but say for example a smaller number of us were to live elsewhere those evolved humans, with there non materialistic mentality they really could live in any dimension. The others would rapidly burn themselves out quickly as it is with most civilisations that come and go all the time in the universe. Some of us know how to live with each other well, maintain our genetics and create good society arrangements which could really last, but also could in time be regarded as some significant societies in the universe, others as you say would quickly find themselves one way or another extinct. Which is why the plejaren are involved and it has to be mentioned that many of us on earth are basically plejaren if not directly, indirectly, and so how you explain what you explain reveals you are knowledgeable in the various things that exists, it’s a pleasure to know you. You think about many things without being caught up improperly and destroying yourself, well done, good, thank you.
Appreciate the flowers Matt but I’m just doing my part as one Earth Human amongst a ton of others.
Since Jared wasn’t even born before 1975, I highly doubt he’s an authority on what has and hasn’t changed. He has yet to explain who other than Billy could have translated the up to 52 million symbols that were given to Billy from the Plejaren of the current knowledge he has provided to humanity. Now watch him say how he could have done it lol.
You said that it was all about the Plejaren and you could have gotten their information without Billy. So I’m asking you who, if not Billy could have translated all the spiritual symbols?
You’re talking nonsense.
You said “For me the Plejaren are 1000 times more important to mention and study than Billy or anyone else on earth.” So I’m asking you how you would know anything about them, if not for Billy? How would you even know they exist? Who, if not Billy, would have been able to translate the spiritual symbols given to him by the Plejaren? It’s great that you an opinion but your opinion doesn’t make any sense.
Jared, please read the CR more thoroughly. You’ll fid that the Plejaren themselves credit Meier with remarkable accomplishments on behalf of the mission that even they didn’t expect were possible but which he accomplished.
I am being real Jared and I see you cannot answer the most basic questions. So thanks for your opinion which aren’t real answers to the questions.
Jared there has been a special lesson discovered deeply concealed within a tiny little crevice that you have freed up a little bit, enough so that I have been able to reach in and scoop out some of the precious material that I can now present here, as follows.
Make sure that when you get older that you turn yourself around, that you do that 180 degree turn to reposition yourself as if facing upstream again, to offer the young and newly emerging humans guidance, so that you finally become a giver of goods rather than an exclusive receiver with the flow of the river. Because if you don’t you do a nose dive right into the end, if you do then you despite popular belief continue receiving, though it is tougher granted, facing into the current, paddling against the grain, the fact that you’d made that turn, full turn, is complimentary because it shows a certain spatial awareness of the oncoming life events that are defined and unmovable, but facing that with dignity is permissible and agreeable as has been outlined here.
jared, I`ve heard that Hilary is a “REALLY NASTY BITCH!” All these two Hilary and Trump are just plain ROTTEN and NASTY,so ether way things will just get worse and worse and worse no matter how you stack the deck of cards unless Bernie Sanders wins and does away with this “horrible corporate Fast Track to the TPP,TTIP, etc,etc,etc! With these shills and their cabals EVERYTHING is money and NOT you and me trying to eck out a decent life as I have recently stated these shills and their corporate cabals are NOT moral, ethical and NOT even decent human beings! They like to play hard,fast and dirty! They DON`T care about the human race here on earth! They would love to see all of us DIE,so much for their rotten ilk and bad bevavoreetc,etc,etc etc!
Terry, I totally agree with you.
Things have changed… but many feel it is not fast enough. We have to be the change and others will learn from us. I don’t think it will come from politicians… it will be a grass roots development. So… if you want the change to happen more quickly… be the change you want to enact. The power of the thoughts will bring that to light.
Salome
In 1975 computers were not at everyone’s disposal like they are now and this allows the information to flow freely.
More people are seeing past religions and finding the spiritual teachings, if they admit it or not, are attach from fear enough to see.
One very basic thing that is changing before our eyes. The last 11 years I at least have watched this ‘movement’ of truth blossom into something to be respected. Everything has its ups and downs and this is all no different. It is a slow process, yet, it is our world. These things happening are not some mystical thing on some far off planet. It is ours, our personal, individual responsibility. We should be grateful that we have this life to learn, this chance now to grow, as every one is a chance for something new, to help solidify many goals.
What has changed? I have…. And for me as an individual that is something I will always cherish. Now, it is time to get out into the world, find like minded people and live the best life one can. At the present rate of delusion and denial of many’s place within nature, its fauna, flora, animals, habitats, the next couple of life’s will depend on this one in many ways, I think, as our numbers explode and chaos ensues. What has changed? A vision, zeil, recognition of the future that no one can stop….. And that’s on each of us to connect with, consciously, and without in the physical.
Why be so worried about everyone else? If people finally looked, thought within, to action, this could be a different scenario. The 99.9999% are our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, neighbors, etc, etc. It is utterly impossible to respect these beliefs and delusions that drive our world to its end yet, it is us as individuals that must change before we think it on anyone else. Though what is change? What is there in life that allows an individual to alter into something better? Many things are changing for the better and if for no one else, within our individual daily lives. It is possible even if one is utterly fighting for their life……………… to succumb to the good, better, best within oneself.
I have personally come to the conclusion that no matter what may happen ‘out there’, there is this time now to try and continue to change for the better, within myself.
Jared; From the moment you came here it was me, me, me. Now, we are all within this momentum at one moment or another…. as well within making utterly sweeping generalizations about everyone else.
There are many more than 1000, as the truth of our world does not lie solely with our friends from the cosmos and Billy. Wasn’t the number of humans seeing past religion on our world something around 15% of the pop.? That is a good start! In basic conversations with people I thought were belief oriented, it turned out they were just ‘in the closet’ and without any of this information, grasp the basic world at hand.
One more thing, where are you from Jared? Why not tell us some things about yourself, instead of telling us all about ourselves?
Phil B.
Shakopee Minnesota