The now trendy topic of extraterrestrial life attracts yet another display of grandstanding by disingenuous scientists who can’t seem to get their priorities straight
The exploration of our solar system and, ultimately, outer space is understandably of great scientific interest.
However, the European Space Agency is proudly readying an inane and wasteful project:
Ready for launch: the mission to find alien life on Jupiter’s icy moons
While they’re unaware of what Billy Meier saw for himself, in1978, they should be far more concerned about the danger posed to humankind by the incoming Apophis asteroid, which didn’t magically disappear just because they pretend that:
“In doing so, it will open up a new chapter in the hunt for extraterrestrial life.”
Trendy and Disingenuous
The now trendy topic of extraterrestrial life attracts yet another display of grandstanding by disingenuous scientists who can’t seem to get their priorities straight. The ESA is following the lead of the utterly clueless and demonstrably incompetent big spenders at SETI, who’ve anointed themselves as those destined to “find” extraterrestrial intelligence…so long as it conforms to their expectations, which allows them to perpetuate the charade – and the funding.
As inconvenient as it may be for SETI, quite obviously, space and time-traveling extraterrestrials long ago found the person they want to meet and provide with an abundance of independently authenticated evidence.
One can read Billy Meier’s dozen’s of specific – copyright-verified – examples of his preemptively published astronomical information, which precede NASA by years and decades. Then, for those with enough integrity to determine the truth for themselves, here’s an article regarding the predictable challenges and questions about peer review.
The Newest Corroboration
Below is information from Matt Knight, in the UK, pertaining to his conversation with the somewhat logically challenged Dave Tholen, who was (until recently) reveling in his arrogance and derision, comfortable that he had assured himself a place in scientific history. After all, he’s not about to be upstaged by some ol’ one-armed Swiss farmer:
If only scientists would give some clear warning about Apophis like calling it red or something.
Here’s a recent email I sent to Dave Tholen…
From: Matt Knight
Sent: 05 April 2023
To: Dave Tholen
You are interested in Pluto, right?
Explain this…
Contact Report 463, 24th April 2008:
“43. Finally, there is Pluto, which is moving away from the sun and whose atmospheric pressure is increasing very strongly.”
Study of Pluto’s atmosphere based on 2020 stellar occultation light curve results, 21 September 2021:
“Our estimated pressure shows a continuation of the pressure increase trend observed since 1988 and does not confirm the rapid pressure decrease tentatively reported in 2019“
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Dave’s “thoughts” on my email:
DT: “Your lack of scientific literacy is showing.”
MK: Ooh… Vader vibes!
DT: “It shows that Meier is as scientifically illiterate as you are.”
MK: No detailed explanation as to how though. Poor really… for a scientist responsible for saying Apophis is no threat.
DT: “How ironic, coming from someone who doesn’t understand the concept of thermal lag.”
MK: According to my findings, it was NASA who didn’t understand this until after Meier, as I hope I’ve explained below….
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Notes from Matt:
In 2008, when Billy was discussing Pluto’s atmosphere in CR 463, and even in 2020 when that information had been published and translated into English, astronomers noted that Pluto’s atmospheric pressure was both increasing and decreasing. In other words, they didn’t know before Meier’s published information suggesting that he did know.
Since around the mid to late 1990’s it had been observed that Pluto was, “moving farther and farther away from the sun, so its surface temperature has been going down” and the expectation, from all seasonal models, suggested that this would freeze Pluto’s atmosphere and so reduce its atmospheric pressure because Pluto’s surface would be getting colder.
That expectation received support in the few opportunities for gathering evidence such NASA’s, in 2015, when it was observed that, “Pluto’s Atmospheric Pressure Has Sharply Decreased” and when this was, “the first time we have ground truth, measuring the surface pressure at Pluto, giving us an invaluable perspective on conditions at the surface of the planet”. Supporting those findings from 2015, “July 2019, showed a decrease in the pressure rate of about 21% compared to the latest reported data from a stellar occultation in 2016”
As mentioned in my email to Dave Tholen, it wasn’t until 2021 that it had been published that Pluto’s, “pressure shows a continuation of the pressure increase trend observed since 1988 and does not confirm the rapid pressure decrease tentatively reported in 2019” and also it could be confidently stated in 2021 that, “Thanks to a phenomenon known as thermal inertia, Pluto’s surface pressure and atmospheric density continued to rise until 2018. Essentially, Pluto had residual heat from when it was closer to the sun. However, the inertia starting to wear off and, as Pluto gets colder, more and more of its atmosphere will freeze back onto its surface and “disappear.”
Personally, I find it remarkable that Meier published something about Pluto’s atmospheric pressure so confidently before that had been verified by the only people on Earth with the equipment to do that, i.e., that Pluto was “moving away from the sun” AND that its “atmospheric pressure is increasing very strongly” at the time of Meier’s explanation and in terms that anyone can understand.
If you accept that Meier had that information in CR 648 in 2008, then how could he know this when extrapolating the 1988 data into anything useful about Pluto’s atmospheric pressure wasn’t completed or fully understood until 2015 when the atmospheric model, named DO15, had been created and when, “A drop in Pluto’s atmospheric pressure was reported from 2008 to 2010”
Were Meier backdating his information from 2020 to 2008 as critics’ would likely claim, he would have said that Pluto’s atmospheric pressure was decreasing, as that was what had been observed, expected and published in 2015 and 2019.
It is fair to say that some astronomers had theorised that Pluto was experiencing thermal inertia (retained heat under Pluto’s surface from being close to the sun which actually increased Pluto’s atmospheric pressure) but this wasn’t verified until the further observations in 2020 showed that increase and which were only published after the 2020 publication year of CR 458.
Please let me know how I’m being scientifically illiterate in the above as it feels like I’ve been slipped crazy biscuits when trying to explain this as simply as I can to an “expert” but I could be wrong and am open to that.
Worryingly, the above information does show that it takes astronomers a long time to work out the effects of the sun on space objects, which doesn’t augur well for them working out what the Yarkovsky, or any other, effect will be on Apophis in time to then be able to effectively divert it, especially when “experts” like Dave claim that Meier is “scientifically illiterate” and that Apophis definitely won’t hit in 2029 or 2036.
See also:
Confirming Meier’s Jupiter Information and Debunking the Incorrect Debunkers … Again
Alien Life? Look Through the Telescope, Prof. Wright
Robin Hanson Meets the Billy Meier UFO Contacts
Skepticism Bears Good Fruit When Truth Prevails
It may seem there is no green pasture in the West, since no wisdom can be cultivated here. Perhaps the East then? Since our scientists seem to know everything, and doesn’t see value in other’s words, it does seem that our learnt folk have a superiority complex.
I remember seeing a video of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about Apophis and he was putting peoples minds at ease by saying it’s not going to hit Earth but there is a small chance that it could hit, and if it did hit Apophis would strike in the area just off the coast of California near Santa Monica. Around that time Billy had presented the Plejaren with the information that someone had found the correct pi calculations too which the Plejaren had agreed with the calculations if I’m not mistaken. Ever since that day I have not heard any information if NASA or anyone else correcting Apophis’s trajectory. If anyone has information regarding Apophis’s new or corrected trajectory by NASA or scientist please post it here thank you.
Could the new course correction be in 2036 not 2029 where Apothis could hit Sant Monica, Ca in 2036 rather than the Black Sea and North sea in 2029?
In response to my previous posting, it is to be clear that I fully understand the trajectory of Apophis remains with Billy and the Plejaren. It is vital that the general public be made aware of the danger Apophis brings to humanity and by correcting any previous statements made by scientist, mainstream media, or person.
I was just thinking about how much I disprove of everything Neil deGrasse Tyson ever says after this post, and this came up on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgS5lSZ61s&ab_channel=PeakProsperity I’m not sure its the content of what he says, maybe its the massive overconfidence and the flat out denial of any other opinion without even a thought of his own, you may as well have an interview with Wikipedia, PeakProsperity is a good channel.
Navigating the semantics
To be intelligible to the scientific community’s formating, Credit is due to Billy Meier for reporting his privileged observations and emitting earliest through copyrighted publications subsequently verified hypotheses, verifications often times occurring by other observations e.g by means of new scientific instruments coming online etc. Regards and respect and further investigation is therefore due in the interest of humanity
Big respect to Marcel Vogel, the love he has comes through when he speaks, I cant help but admire him. There are many good videos like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9HQ4lM8JY&ab_channel=DanWillis I think crystal science will be a huge area of development in the future, this does remind me of a children’s TV show that was called “the girl from tomorrow” It was about a future where the northern hemisphere was completely destroyed by a radiation weapons and a nuclear war. The survivors in the south created a crystal “transducer” that was able to heal and move objects with the power of thought. It really makes you wonder where they got their ideas from sometimes.
Interesting video, he did quite a few presentations on crystals, the power of them, etc. He truly was a rather brilliant man.
As a courtesy heads-up, just don’t dig too deep into marcelvogel.org; they have a whole bunch of bullshit and rubbish about some individual (https://marcelvogel.org/jenhannotes.htm) from Erra and how this Jan “person” is a pleaidian, some delusional lady who thinks she’s a contactee. Damn, humans can be really f’ing stupid.
Thankfully, I didn’t spend too much time on the Vogel website, it’s all utter nonsense and bullshit, thankfully, Marcel was a man of high integrity, so his words on crystals and the sciences is worth investigating, learning and applying more.
Take great care of yourself and your loved ones everyone!
Salome,
Charles
His work is fascinating and inspiring, but his intelligence is up there with some of the greats.
There are so many great obscure scientists who had fantastic theories, inventions, discoveries and different ways of thinking. I dread to think all the things that have been confiscated by the governments of the world for being too radical, or just lost. We could very well have done away with oil as a fuel, have flying vehicles and heal people. We will never really know, Its a real shame, we only get tantalising hints on what could have been, and of course a long list of inventors who mysteriously died.