Billy Meier filmed a UFO going around a tree in 1975 but that tree didn’t exist until…2005
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Following the recent discovery of long lost Billy Meier UFO photos, of what appears to be a US Stealth fighter, there’s new, mind boggling evidence that when Billy Meier filmed a UFO circling a tree, in 1975, what he filmed wasn’t actually happening then but that it was happening…30 years in the future .
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THE MYSTERIOUS TREE at the Hinwil UFO Demonstration
By: Francisco Villate (Rhal Zahi) October 25, 2020
In a snowy afternoon on 18 March 1975, close to Hinwil in Switzerland, Billy Meier recorded a film of the famous Pendulum UFO. It shows a Beamship dancing around a tall tree, moving the treetop without touching it, and imitating pendulum movements that do not follow pendulum laws of physics. The tree itself is a mystery because it vanished just after this demonstration, and the inhabitants of the house where the tree stood had no memory of its existence. Meier explained that a Plejaren ET friend of his, caused this tree to vanish because it was affected by some form of radiation from the beamship (the UFO), and they move it to another location in time. If this sounds fantastic, the whole story is even more mysterious. The big tree we see that looks real and close to the house did exist. There is proof it existed; but not in 1975…in 2005.
When looking at available Swiss aerial photos, we find the tree did not exist in 1972, three years before the demonstration by the Plejaren woman Semjase. There is not even a small tree in that place. If it was present in 1975, how can we see a tree grow into a 20-meter tall tree, in just three years? The tree is not seen in photos of 1978, either, three years after the demonstration.
However, in 1996 photos we do see the tree, maybe half the height of the tree seen in Meier ́s film. In 2003 we find a full-size, 16-meter tall tree, at the same location with the same width, height and shape seen in Meier ́s film. In 2006 the tree is noticeably absent, but the grass is brown where the tree previously stood. The surrounding grass is green. A bare patch on the ground close to the house indicates a tree was recently there and recently cut down (or vanished?). What Meier shows in the 1975 film is a big tree, as it will be from 2003 to 2006 (maybe in 2005).
How could Meier show a film with a tree that will exist 30 years later? Some sceptics claimed Meier used a small tree and a little UFO model close to the camera, with the view of the distant house in the background. They have not yet, of course, explained how this little model moved the little treetop without touching it, and other aspects that show the tree is big and real. To assume the sceptic theory correct means Meier set up a fake scene that exactly matched the location, with a little tree the size and shape of a future big tree, 30 years ahead in time! How could Meier know the existence of a tree, many years before, precisely where he showed it in his film? Every explanation, even from the sceptics’ point of view, would be fantastic.
In this document, we will present evidence of these findings.
Location of the Hinwil Demonstration
The house in the demonstration is very close to Hinwil, and located at: 47° 17 ́ 37.55” N and 8° 50 ́ 09.68” E
The following figure shows a birds-eye view of the area. The main house and secondary construction seen close to the big tree and the UFO are indicated in this map. Meier’s location is approximate. The buildings to the East and the tall tree forest to the West are in another video Meier made later, after the demonstration. Meier might be at 330 meters from the house, estimating his location on what the film shows. Here we cannot use the Camera Formula to calculate the distance, because Meier was using his video camera and we do not know if he zoomed the image when recording this video. The ground level of the house is 13 meters higher than Meier’s location. (See profile in figure 3)
Figure 1 – Google 2020 image. Billy Meier’s approximate location during the demonstration.
Figure 2 shows a detailed view of the main house, secondary construction, and the location of the missing tree.
Figure 2 – Detail of the residence, secondary construction, and location of the missing tree.
Measuring in Google Earth, the diagonal width of the main house roof as seen from Meier’s location shows it is 23.2 meters (yellow dotted line figure 2). The UFO and tree are about the same distance from the camera, enabling us to calculate the size of this UFO (beamship) based on the roof length.
Figure 3 – Profile of Meier’s location at the place.
In figure 3, we show a scaled profile of Meier’s location. The terrain elevation is from Google Earth at an inclination of 4%, and Meier is 13 meters below ground level of the house.
The following figure shows an enhanced image of one frame from the film of the Hinwil UFO demonstration. We printed this image in the book, They are Here (Villate), and explained how the different levels of colour and intensity indicate the UFO, the house and the tree are at the same distance, while the grass, showing more vivid colours reveals it is closer to him. The scene indicates Meier is not showing a little UFO model with a little tree at just 20 meters from the camera. In this image, we measured the sizes (in pixels) of the roof width, the UFO and the tree, and we calculated the corresponding real sizes in meters. (Table 1)
Figure 4 – A single-frame image from the film with enhanced colours and tones.
The sizes we obtain in this image are:
| Object | Size in pixels | Size in metres |
| Roof width (diagonal) | 318 | 23.2 |
| UFO (beamship) | 96 | 7.0 |
| Tree tall | 245 | 17.9 |
| Tree width | 164 | 12.0 |
| House height | 66 | 4.8 |
| Left clearance | 82 | 6.0 |
| Right clearance | 72 | 5.2 |
Table 1 – Real sizes of objects.
Surprisingly, the size of the beamship is exactly seven meters in this calculation, just as Meier said. The tree is almost 18 meters tall and 12 meters wide at its widest. We will show this tree was 16 meters tall and 11 meters wide in 2003; maybe by 2005 or 2006 it would be a bit bigger, as in figure 4. The elevation of the roof at its highest point will help us later check what the height of the tree was in 2003. The clearance (left and right) helps us define or confirm precisely the direction of Meier’s location.
A time sequence shows the evolution of the residence, secondary construction and the trees.
18 July 1972
Figure 5 – Aerial photo from 1972. Right: Zoomed image.
In 1972 three years before the Hinwil demonstration, the main house stands alone, as shown in figure 5. In the following three years the secondary construction will be built. This low-resolution photo shows there are no trees, not even small ones, just a few plants surrounding the south corner in the house yard. If Meier shows an 18-meter tall tree three years later, we should see at least a 10-meter tall tree here, but we do not see it at all in this photo. The question is, how a film may show a tree that does not exist? A sceptic would quickly retort that the tree never existed. However, we will soon see that is proven not so and that the truth is far more complicated.
30 July 1978
Figure 6 is a photo from 1978, three years after the demonstration. We may expect the tree to be missing according to information from the Plejaren that they “vanished” or “eradicated” the tree on 18 March 1975, after the snowy afternoon demonstration. We see some bushes around the houses but no big trees. The secondary construction is there, just as in Meier’s film.
19 June 1984
Figure 6 – Aerial photo from 1978. Right: Zoomed image.
Now we move to nine years after the demonstration. We find more constructions around the secondary construction, and small trees close to the house, one of which is in the same location as the tree in Meier’s film, but it is still a small tree.
Figure 7 – Aerial photo from 1984. Right: Zoomed image.
22 July 1996
Figure 8 – Aerial photo from 1996. Right: Zoomed image.
In 1996, 21 years after the demonstration, we see a prominent tree at the precise location we find the big tree in Meier ́s film. We have already calculated the height of the roof of the main house at its highest part is 4.8 meters. Observing the shadows, we can estimate this tree measures around twice the height of the house, making it around 10 meters tall. The following figure 9 shows a detail of this tree.
Figure 9 – Detail of the tall tree.
The width of this tree, as seen from above, is around six to seven meters. Is it a mere coincidence that a tree is growing in precisely the same location as the big tree we see in Meier ́s film? How is this possible?
5 November 2003
Figure 10 – Aerial photo from 2003. Right: Zoomed image.
Now we are looking at 28 years after Meier’s film. We find a big tree around 16 meters tall based on the shadows and 11 metres wide based on the diagonal roof dimension. See the details of the branch structures in the shadows on the ground. It is most surprising to see this tree has the same shape, size, and location as the tree we see in Meier ́s film 28 years earlier. Figure 10 is an orthogonal view, which is a top view conversion from an original photo. In the following B&W images, we can see the same photo but from a different location of the aeroplane that took the pictures. The images show a diagonal view, not from above, revealing more details of the tree, even a stereoscopic view of it (a 3D image if using a stereoscope)
Figure 11 – Tree details. Left: Enhanced orthogonal view (i.e. view from above). Right: Diagonal perspective view as seen from the original aeroplane photo.
Details in figure 11 clearly show the structure of the tree branches. It is amazing how this tree looks the same as the tree in Meier ́s film, recorded 28 years earlier. Is it the same tree? Suppose Meier used a small tree with a UFO model. Did he visualize exactly how a future tree will look like and reproduce it in exacting detail as a miniature replica? Such a suggestion stretches the bounds of credulity. It is highly unlikely, indeed probably impossible, for the inhabitants of this house, to purposely plant a tree in the exact spot that after several years will look exactly like the tree Meier filmed in 1975. Any simple logical explanation tends to sound very fantastic. Furthermore, we have proved the tree in Meier’s film was real, and that the UFO was imitating a pendulum movement, that violated pendulum laws of physics. (See the many details in our 2nd investigation of The Pendulum UFO in part 2 of the book They are Here… – Villate)
The following figure shows a stereo pair of photos that can be used to see the tree and house in 3D.
Figure 12 – Stereo pair of photos for a 3D view.
In the technical Civil and other Engineering disciplines relating to the specialization of photogrammetry, aerial photos are taken from an aeroplane and composed in pairs to view terrains and determine elevations in 3D. Figure 12 shows a stereo pair that viewed with a stereoscope show the image in 3D. In our book, Researching a Real UFO, (Lock) in experiment 10, page 115, we describe how to construct and use a stereoscope to see these kinds of 3D images.
Now we calculate the size, width, and height, of the tree as it was in 2003, just as we did before. Using the length of the diagonal line of the house roof, measured from Google Earth, we can calculate the width of this tree. Figure 13 illustrates the process, and Table 2 gives the results
Table 2 – Real sizes of objects.
Figure 13 – 2003 photo from above (rotated to show the yellow line horizontally). The tree is 11 metres wide. The red arrows confirm the direction to Meier’s location.
The drawn red arrows in figure 13 indicate the direction of Meier ́s camera location. We previously calculated the left and right clearance distances, in Table 1, that must match what we see here. It is incredible how similar this tree is to what we see in Meier’s film.
To calculate the height of the tree, again we can use the shadows. The length of each shadow is proportional to the height of each object. Figure 14 shows the shadow lengths in the 2003 orthoscopic photo, and Table 3 shows the results. We know the house height measured towards the highest point in the roof from Table 1, is 4.8 meters, which helps calculate proportionally how tall the tree and secondary tree are that we see in the same photo.
Table 3 – Height of the trees based on the house height
Figure 14 – Shadows of the big tree and a secondary tree.
Finding the exact length of the shadow of the big tree presents the difficulty that the top part falls over some bushes elevated from the ground. We projected the sides of the tree to find an approximate location of the treetop shadow as cast on the ground. So our calculation of the height of the big tree may have an error of around one meter.
We find the big tree located precisely where it was when Meier recorded his film 28 years previously. The width is 11 meters, and its height is around 16 meters. In Meier’s film, as found in Table 1, the width is 12 meters, and the tree is almost 18 meters tall. In two or three years this tree will grow more, and maybe by 2005 or 2006, it will be precisely the same size as the tree in Meier ́s film. The secondary tree is also significant, but not as large as the big tree, and Meier’s film shows it not present in 1975.
12 September 2006
It is now 31 years after Meier ́s film was recorded. We find now the tree no longer exits here. In the big tree’s location, we see a brown patch of dry grass or just soil without grass surrounded by green grass. It suggests a recent cutting down of the tree, or perhaps a recent “vanishing”. Maybe Meier was showing a tree from 2005 or 2006. In these years the trees must have grown a bit more than it had in 2003.
Figure 9 – Aerial photo from 2006
This study is not offering final answers to this mystery, but just presenting the facts relating to it. We are sure, by different analyses, the UFO in The Pendulum UFO film was real, significant in size, and close to a big tree, as well as close to the house shown here. Observation of the movement of the tree after the beamship crossed above it shows it is a very sizable tree. A small scale UFO model cannot move a little tree without touching it. There is no explanation why the pendulum period changes continually, contrary to the laws of pendulum physics, and we showed other intriguing aspects of this UFO, like the jumps, the flip, and the pulses (see They are Here, Part 2 – Villate). Now, to complete the list of mysterious features of The Pendulum UFO film, we have to
include that it shows a sizable tree that will exist 30 years later. The theory of a scale model around a small tree fabricated by Meier, cannot explain how he showed the same tree that was found 30 years later. It is not logical to think that the inhabitants of this house planted a tree, expecting it eventually to become exactly like the tree shown in the earlier film and then cut it down. It is now obvious why the inhabitants of this house had no memory of the existence of this tree when interviewed by investigators in the 80s; the tree did not exist then.
CAN THIS BE EXPLAINED?
We asked Billy Meier, through Christian Frehner, if he remembers or has any comments that could explain these facts. Christian informed us that Billy has forwarded the request via Florena to Ptaah, but was told Ptaah would ask Semjase on the next occasion; Semjase was piloting this beamship during the demonstration.
Here are some possibilities, but each one seems literally fantastic given our current knowledge.
- Billy used a small tree and a UFO model: This means Billy knew how a future tree will look 30 years in advance and he used a small tree matching precisely all the details of the future tree, unless we think it is an extraordinary coincidence. Also, we found the UFO moves the treetop without touching it while making a right turn. This is something a model of a UFO cannot do with a little tree as we explained in the detail in the book They Are Here (Part II – Villate & Lock), and the tree looks big and close to the house, not a little one close to the movie camera.
- The house residents grew a tree to match the one in Meier’s film: They checked in detail the UFO demonstration film, found the right place to grow a tree, and let it grow for 30 years until it reached the same height and width of the tree we see in Meier ́s film.
They then cut it down, 15 years ago, in 2005 without telling anybody. This explanation sounds very far fetched. - Semjase performed a demonstration with a “real-projection” of an existing tree: The Plejaren have the capability to project the image of something, like a tree, from one place to another. This activity is known as a “real-projection”. See The Billy Meier Case: True or a Hoax? – pages 111 (Frehner). We notice the beamship (the UFO) interacts with the tree, meaning they are located in the same place. In this real-projection hypothesis, Semjase was performing the UFO demonstration in another place, with a big tree, and projected the image to the location of the house in front of Billy Meier and his camera. The demonstration was done in real-time, but with a remote tree, not one close to the house at that time. In this scenario, there is the extraordinary coincidence of Semjase, in her demonstration, choosing a tree identical to the one that will be in this place 30 years later, unless she knew it from a trip or visualization into the future. Another possibility is that Semjase was performing the demonstration 30 years in the future in the same place and projected an image of the tree and her beamship back to 1975. This scenario presents a real-projection and time-shifted demonstration.
- Semjase instantly and literally transported the tree from the future to be one growing in front of the house; where she performed her demonstration around it in front of Billy and his movie camera. After the demonstration she then reversed the time of the tree, rolling it back to a seed that lay there in the ground in 1975, which grew later into the tree observed in later years, which perhaps Semjase took back to the year 1975 for the demonstration. Once it had grown to the height of the tree in Meier’s movie film the owners cut it down or Semjase “removed” it.
We await Semjase’s explanations that might appear in a future Contact Report.
Anyone may find all of these explanations literally fantastic. Something is obvious, however: every day we find new clues showing new aspects of this case that are difficult to explain without a thorough investigation, and sometimes even then questions remain.
To learn more:
First investigation of The Pendulum UFO: An Investigation Into the Pendulum UFO – An Analysis of a Billy Meier Film (Zahi).
Second Investigation about the Pendulum UFO: They are Here – Compelling Evidence of Extraterrestrial Ships Present on Earth – Part II (Villate & Lock).
Video with details of the first investigation about the Pendulum UFO: OVNI Danzante – Dancing UFO (Zahi).
Other trees that the Plejaren “vanished” (moved in time): The Billy Meier Case: True or a Hoax? – pages 114 and 118 (Frehner).
How to build a stereoscope: Researching a Real UFO: A Practical Guide to WCUFO Experimentation for Young Scientists – Experiment 10 (Lock & Zahi).
Aerial photos of the Hinwil area throughout the years: Karten der Schweiz – Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft (Swiss Confederation)
(Thanks to Christian Frehner and Chris Lock for the contributions and corrections to this analysis)
References
Frehner, Christian. The Billy Meier Case: True or a Hoax? FIGU, Switzerland, 2020.
Lock, Christopher and Rhal Zahi, Researching a Real UFO: A Practical Guide to WCUFO Experimentation for
Young Scientists. Create Space (Amazon.com). Nov. 2016.
Swiss Confederation. “Karten der Schweiz – Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft”, https://map.geo.admin.ch/. 2020.
Villate, Francisco (Rhal Zahi) and Christopher Lock. They are Here – Compelling Evidence of Extraterrestrial Ships Present on Earth (Amazon.com). Sep. 2020.
Zahi, Rhal (Francisco Villate). An Investigation Into the Pendulum UFO – An Analysis of a Billy Meier Film. PDF file 6.3MB. Jan. 2014, Ver. 5. http://www.rhalzahi.com/ docs/pendulum-EN.pdf.
———–. OVNI Danzante – Dancing UFO. 29 June 2015. YouTube.
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“Anyone may find all of these explanations literally fantastic. Something is obvious, however: every day we find new clues showing new aspects of this case that are difficult to explain without a thorough investigation, and sometimes even then questions remain.“
Unfortunately very true.
Has anyone asked the family what happened to the tree 15years ago?
We’re hoping someone will, Chuck. It might be a sensitive issue for them, however, as people asked a lot back in the 70s or 80s.
In the book “And yet they fly” they mention that when they removed trees they also removed all memories of it.
So why would the Plejaren trump around like this with the evidence, why not just conduct themselves like normal people and present straight up hard gaseous evidence direct, right into the sensory receptors. Why trump elaborate series of holes with their high technologies, like a cheap sci-fi movie. A notable sceptic years ago said they wanted to make Billy Meier look like a fool to later make everyone look like a fool, but why do they do this, fannying
It’s because the world is full of morons who can’t handle the plain truth, presented to them directly. So, while of course they presented the evidence – clearly and in abundance – they also presented evidence that required a little more…THINKING, just the kind of thing that’s inaccessible to imbecile skeptics and people who COMPLAIN about “why this and why not that?” over and over, and who still don’t show that they have the intelligence and common sense to actually…DO SOMETHING with the information.
That’s your opinion MH, and I appreciate the honesty by which you present it, and many agree with you. But my opinion is that those who have been doing something with this information are the one’s who have been wasting their time, years of it on stories, more than the actual time wasters who spent the time on their local habitat, who wasted their time on local human beings who will reincarnate again without the stories to read next time. Because finding something to do with this information amounts to a future life revolving around the information too, according to Plejaren the mental age rises by some 140+ years upon the study of the spirit teaching material, who worked around the pile of bs to the small document selection, to those who have found something to do with this information and put it into use and practice, whether that is radio interviews and book writing, whatever it may be. You people should know that the last prophets who delivered this about 2000 and 1500 years ago, their legacy followers today are people like Pope’s and leaders of international monetary funds, military generals today, they are bible scholars who find themselves in fertile economy. You will too in the future, but do remember that you made it to UFO’s remember not to doctrines, so just that you know the score, you’ve now carved out a huge swathe of future existence for yourselves, there is no going back for you now. Good luck, its your life.
For the most part your comments indicate that you’re unfamiliar with the spiritual teaching, which is the farthest thing from wasting one’s time that I can imagine.
Islamist fundamentalists hear you say something like that about what their religion was based on, lots of work put in by extraterrestrials and talking to ghosts and you could get into trouble
The most trouble awaits the arrogant, stupid French who deliberately insult and provoke those who have beliefs in Islam, etc.
As Meier foretold, in 1958 and 1981, France will fall hard to radical Islamists.
I had some thought about it and all of Europe will have a large problem due to over population and the ever present climate disaster. Even if Macron worded it less combative I don’t believe that would change the outcome as he’s essentially too late even in better circumstances considering Billy asked the P’s how many ISIS fighters were in the migrant wave that smuggled into Europe to cause mischief and violence. Turkey is on its own independently fighting a proxy war in Azeri-Armenian conflict without any European or US meddling which brings into serious consideration how far one will allow an article-5 scenario should be applied if things go away from peace.
I say this because some European leaders demonstrated a weakness with handling the migrant wave by being very political and passive which gave mixed messages to the migrant people as well as to most Europeans themselves. IIRC, the majority of the European countries are not self-sufficient in food stuffs and import a certain percentage to make the balance. So, you have European countries that never asked to take on a migrant wave have to deal with a population they cannot support. Those countries south and east of where the migrants want to go are routinely humiliated by the do-gooder media that consistently points the finger when those counties don’t handle the wave like they believe it should be handled.
That being said, countries in the middle have built fences in order to save themselves such as what Norway and Hungary have built:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37577547
https://cis.org/Bensman/Progress-Report-Hungarys-Fenced-Borderlands
Meanwhile every country south of that have to deal with the consequences and its not just the one country I highlight below:
I think French are balanced differently to say a typical British, American, German, Russia, Swedish person. Politically and socially they handle themselves differently. But that is a poor guess of mine actually because all nations are being affected by this problem. I blame impulses and drug taking, it reminds me of what the Plejaren told BEAM about Giza Intelligences. I am not tied to silence, so I can say openly that I suspect the Plejaren or High Council are behind the Arab uprising, but I can guess freely without repercussions because I am not famous like MH and BEAM. It would not surprise me if we find out in the late contact reports that the Plejaren have been stirring things.
As is the case with many positive developments that are strictly the work and consequences of the efforts of earth people, so it’s also the case that the problems we face are manmade. There’s zero evidence that the Plejaren are doing anything other than trying to assist, where possible and allowed.
Amen to that Mike! Billy also included the USA in the migration:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_711
“The overpopulation of the masses, after all, demands a variety of measures which inevitably have an overall impact on the planet, its nature, fauna and flora, forests, waters of all kinds, the atmosphere, the climate, and to a large extent, a negative and destructive effect on the environment. And this is a fact which is neither seen nor understood by the so-called ‘professionals’ of environmental protection nor by politicians, rulers and Earth-men themselves, because all of them go blindly and stupidly through the world and neither can recognize nor want to understand that it is just all machinations which emanate from the overpopulation, destroying and exterminating everything all around and causing tremendous catastrophes of all kinds, including the immense natural catastrophes. To these catastrophes also belong diseases and epidemics, which will spread more and more in the future, whereby diverse ones coming from Africa, Arabia, Asia, South America and from the USA will also creep more and more into Europe and will bring much disaster and death.”
Hi Ned –
Very good contact report. It looks like we are not finished with diseases and epidemics because there is no way to close borders and stop globalization.
Many times I would ask the companies I work with why they were shipping their manufactures overseas. I would also tell them that doing so would mean that their kids would not have jobs in the future. I could never understand why they would not listen and think about the long term consequences.
Their response was always the same: because consumers want it.
Let’s just hope that people can do without their plastics. They sure seem to be addicted to it!
Hi Ned
Fences in the Middle East get covered in sand dunes, however the Israeli Boarder Security, who are very efficient, send out every morning guards to brush over the foot prints, left there overnight.
That being said, countries in the M.E. have built fences in order to secure themselves, such as what Norway and Hungary have built:
However in the M.E a 14 foot fence can easily be covered up during sand storm overnight. To such an extent that the ground detection systems fail to register person’s walking over them. Because of the amount of sand that has built up.
A good example is Egypt’s roads, to the south towards Sudan. Over 30 years the sand has built up to such a height that only a 4×4 can get up the slope and down the other side (with difficulty). As in the picture.
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Salome
Since religion is false in the first place, why do you defend radical Islamists in their killing when that French teacher was only giving a class ABOUT their fanaticism? If imagined insults are to be in charge of life, we’re all in trouble.
There’s no defense for killing, just pointing out how stupid and arrogant it is for a government and its leaders to deliberately insult a religion which, we might note, also isn’t the one they endorse, support, etc. It’s especially stupid when the people they are taking the time to deliberately insult and infuriate have no problem cutting people’s heads off. And, lest we forget, there was a little thing called the Crusades, which didn’t endear the French to people who call themselves Muslims, etc.
So, we have a massive display of ignorance of the law of cause and effect, at the very least. As is so far always the case, look for a bloody fulfillment of Meier’s predictions about the fall of France to radical Islamists, dating back to 1958, 1981, etc.
Think about it for a second Chuck. Why would other countries in a very authoritarian manner put this cartoon incident in a certain way to their population just so they can demonstrate their indignation to the media? There is a larger socio-political segment it’s aimed towards because certain countries think in terms of ‘sphere of influence’ and ‘power projection’; not ‘spiritual teachings’. To send a message to other countries those other governments will rally and demonstrate in the most Earth-human way possible which I don’t have to mention. We shouldn’t be surprised if the media unfairly cover these issues.
So, yes a cartoon shouldn’t be the cause of mischief and violence because literally that’s not the actual cause of it. Yes, people do have the power to decide for themselves whether they should riot over a cartoon or not and make that a cause to rally and kill behind. And no one is asking for Macron to do the opposite, which would be Neville Chamberlain and essentially allowing foreign power projection to turn into a world war. France and Europe are not in a good position geo-politically and already have the migrant crisis that demonstrated a certain weakness.
Just to clarify, Chamberlain was in a bad position because the winners of Versailles (i.e. the governments in power, not the people so not just him) very clearly didn’t and couldn’t enforce the peace they won from the first world war. The fact that both Hitler and Stalin would use the power of their own population indignant from the defeat of the first world war in a manner that would lead to world war doesn’t mean Western Europeans secretly wanted war. That’s not the conclusion we should come to.
If you can read between the flak you can then determine why over population as the root cause for most of Earth Humanity’s ills. Since Earth humanity never figured out why authorities in power play them like the pied piper means we’re going to have more wars in the future. You can do this with simple math. If country A has 10 million people and country B has 4 million people, country A has more people it can ‘tune’ if you will to a certain message than country B could. If country A has dirt on country B, they can use that as a short-cut to do evil. In essence, country A has more power to make good people do evil things than country B could potentially do.
Quite clearly, the P’s or Billy or even the Bafath (in most circumstances) are not solely to blame for the way the Earth is run.
Just to comment to MH for a second, it isn’t so much that govt or media is going out of their way to insult Islam as it is an obvious clash of incompatible values. Western culture, imperfect as it is, is based on the freedom of the individual. Islam is not. There is no goal for the west except to go forward , live, and see what’s around the next corner. Islam wants to take over the world. That’s why the Crusades happened. It was a reaction to Islam taking over the Christian holy land. As to your points Ned, obviously govt gets us all into trouble, accidentally and on purpose. That’s how they use and misuse their populations. That’s why I get so puzzled by all the negativity about Trump. It seems like he’s the only one trying NOT to blow up the world! All he seems to be doing is trying to inspire the world to use their brains and common sense to make their own govts, country and people the best they can be. Once you get people thinking in terms of doing the right thing, maybe then it would be possible to reduce the world population over time and make the would as suitable for all as it should be. It would be nice.
Not a problem. We know the cartoon is not the same as state sponsored terrorism but some one can interpret it differently hearing ‘a school’ slandering something of their culture. It’s then very easy to make the connection between something usually funded by some government and state sponsored persecution. While it’s nice to come across and sound like a do-gooder, which is how some European leaders seem to be messaging things diplomatically, they don’t obviously control that message across the pond. The expectation might be over the pond for the government to come down on the school because the society works on an authoritarian way and hence expects France to behave in that manner.
More over this CR: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_707
“What I also want to say refers to the powerful of the world, be they the state powers and their like-minded minions, such as their advisers, the secret services, the military, economic magnates, the influential, domineering, authoritarian, commanding ‘elites’ of the rich, as well as all those from the populations who are inexperienced and pathologically obedient to them. With few exceptions, they have all succumbed to the power they exercise in some way towards their fellow human beings and even entire peoples, often in such a way that disaster arises from the way violence and coercion are exerted on them or wars are waged, for which very often perfidious and insidious reasons are sought. And this happens in connection with religions, power and money, because from this block again and again quarrels, envy, greed, hatred, violence and coercion arise, just as in the whole world and among the entire humanity of the Earth, no peace, no freedom and no justice can be created and not arise, but only war and terror.”
To be fair that is the position taken by FIGU too, what MH explains here, never to offend the deeply rooted sensitive symbols and signifiers of another people, and maybe I agree with that too, it is disrespectful and creates unpeace and disharmony for no good reason. Muslims are peaceful overall. If you think about some offensive thing that would anger Americans, maybe something about being fat, bombastic and proud or something offensive but a specific targeted offensive, and then wrap that into a bullying harassment, that is basically what this type of offensive cartoon depictions is, and I agree with FIGU that freedom is more than just unmoderated unrestriction, it is also about respecting other human beings and peoples. We could draw a link between that and some of the terrorism, we certainly can draw a link between the military campaigns and displacement refugees.
It is probably for the safety of Billy and for themselves .1970s must have been a more hostile time than 21st century Besides, tweakiing time is something they can do easily and with this technology ,I believe they have fulfilled their mission well ahead of time!
They are normal people. We are the abnormal and illogical bunch. If anyone looks like a fool, it’s becoming overwhelmingly obvious that it’s the skeptics.
What good would that do? People already believe what they want to and generally look at the spiritual teachings without much enthusiasm. If you “proved” something to some one outside of Billy Meier, in general, then what did that person do with the stuff you’ve proven to them? A few might agree with you if they take it the right way. Most would either turn the evidence back around to you or massage what they were saying all along is what you’ve proven and just wanted to make sure you got it. It’s not surprising most of the stuff people poke around with religions are poking around the massaged message much like uncovering a Stalin trick where people go missing from pictures. You know, the way Earth Humanity works is that they makes things go away, not have proof appear. 😉
There is a proportion of humanity that are uncomfortable with creationalism, and the type in the spirit teaching, this is why Plejaren say we shouldn’t push it like the pushers. Another proportion of humanity are uncomfortable with the physical evidence of the case and even the premise of preexisting extraterrestrials monitoring and intervening secretly and ancient history technologies, such a genetic experiments on Sasquatches, or premise of ghosts and other magical things such as dimension portals and traversing space in split second etc., etc., etc., but for me main contentions are creationalism, as presented in the spirit teaching, this is a very disturbing teaching to me, I argue that the wars on Earth were caused by this creationalism, I think irresponsible. The creationalism in the spirit teaching that is sold by FIGU as a product, has higher powers in another galaxy that advise those capable of intercepting it, Plejaren and i.e. talking to ghosts, and those incapable are influenced by invisible forces, they call impulses, well this all marries up to reality on some level, but the dangerous piece that causes war is the stripping away of freewill, liberty, responsibility, this is where the God-delusion premise arises. So, Plejaren say do not talk about spirit teaching with others, they say do not push the FIGU intellectual products and they say this is why BEAM had amateur assassination attemps made on his life, why he has to own a licensed weapon even though he lives in Europe. So, there is plenty MH has not been talking about for all the decades that its been running. But Plejaren have designed it this way.
Michael has talked about all those aspects over the years. The spiritual teaching isn’t what caused all those wars here on Earth. It’s always been the greedy, power-hungry degenerates who manipulate the teachings so they can oppress the people. You can see this corruption today and how these secret groups manipulate the information, education and scientific advancements in order to keep people stupid. It’s so blatantly obvious that it hurts the head when others can’t see it.
I see in a way where you’re coming from but literally we should know that’s not true considering we have to figure out whether the message of the teachings is valid and whether the stuff we were handed down is equally valid. The sense I’m reading is that Earth Humanity has always viewed things in a certain lens, for example, that we relate to as ‘Creationalism’. Much like having a Marxist lens when viewing the world or other lens filters. IN fact, we even had terms to describe ‘new man’ from looking and acting in a certain way with. For example, homo-sovieticus is one way to understand a view someone might have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sovieticus
From Billy, and through him what we suppose are the P’s as no one directly talks to them, we have somewhat of an explanation without much evidence of why certain things were changed in prior teachings or attempts. But, we should know that’s like explaining a game of telephone with someone. While it would be nice to have access to the P’s archives for verification purposes, we know that’s not readily available to us. Even if we did, just for sake of argument, were allowed access to the archive, we have another hurdle to jump and that’s with understanding a homo-sapien from thousands of years ago for which the original message was intended. This is so that we can get the ‘world view’ of those people and what connections they would make in an understandable form so that they digest and incorporate the message of past handed to them.
Several CR reports do mention the P’s try to word past prophecies in a manner that’s understandable to today’s homo-sapien. Even with this very minor help from the P’s and Billy, it’s a small drop of water because Earth Humanity as a whole still has to understand and work within it’s ‘own created world’. In essence, the ‘Creation’ we made here is Earth Humanity’s created sense of the word. Billy and the P’s attempt to say a different sense of ‘Creation’ is to put Ur in front of the word, i.e. a higher version of creation than the one we would know.
So, yes in a way that Earth Humanity understands ‘Creationism’ in the sense of it’s current world view have time and again not changed compared to other views presented. We can shoot the messenger but it wouldn’t change much if homo-religious understands things different than the way you intend to suggest it should mean. In a round about manner, I do share a view in that you couldn’t suddenly change a homo-sovieticus just because you worded things diplomatically and made a deal that wasn’t based on those principles. At the end of the day, that level of change has to come from within.
From what I understand from reading a few spirit teachings..
There is consciousness and energy(Nature) These two are inseparable ,one sustaining the other Since energy keeps changing ,it has a Nature,so this word is used as synonym for energy. The state of consciousness doesn’t change at all while energy keeps changing.This change is by creating,maintaining ,destroying ,again creating…This process did not have a beginning ,so it will not end. Any beginning and end is just relative. If you think, there is a noble cause and great purpose behind this creation .. nope .no such thing. It is just the nature of energy to be creating ,forming objects etc. Also anything that keeps changing has no Identity and hence is a wonderful illusion.
In the midst of all this, we are tangled up in this field energy i.e we get to exist as a body.
as .planetary body, plant body. animal body or human body and many more foms going through millions of lives
At some point, we come out of the field of energy and exist as pure conciousness outside of time .
In the meantime we can try to make life simple and happy as much as possible.i
Just wanted to share…
Ptaah had said the plajerians and and their bases would leave planet Earth by 1995.So is it possible that many contacts we read now esp about the pandemic, occurred in the past by travelling into the future?
I also wonder if Billy and the Plejarens saw anything else that would get worse about the pandemic and its mutations too etc?
I was in South Korea around the 1984 time period. There were lots of strange things going on there (back in the woods) then.
I had procured a camera (a cannon or pentax) and was what one would say crazy with taking pictures of anything that was flying in the sky; amongst other things. The pictures came up missing.
In Christians new book “The Billy Meier Case True or a Hoax” It is mentioned on page 111 that Semjase used “real projection” to allow Billy to photograph the Fuchsbüel pictures from another location from where Billy was actually standing. This was done to avoid spying eyes that were following Billy around. Could this ‘real projection” come into play with regards to the explanation of the Hinwil demonstration? Could Semjase have employed this type of ‘technic’ to allow Billy the opportunity to made his film, which in reality originated from another place and time?
That’s very interesting, Scott.
Scott, I have just received this in an email from Christian,
“Billy told me yesterday on the phone that (according to Ptaah) all of the encounters of Semjase’s beamship with a tree were happening by using a real-projection.
Salome,
Christian”
So this Hinwil tree encounter that Billy filmed was also a “real projection.”
Hi Chris, I just received the sam email, now we know :)…
Just for the record on this blog, Christian’s latest update received today is:
In the case of Hinwil (super 8) she must have used a tree in the vicinity where she circled around it and projected it to a spot some distance away from Billy’s camera.
In Auenberg it was Quetzal who was involved, not Semjase. We will probably be informed about that when Billy will have retrieved and written down the contact report of this week.
Salome,
Christian
Scott, when we discussed these latest findings of Francisco with Christian, he did suggest that possibility of a “real projection.” We are waiting to hear from Samjase in a CR update. Billy has asked the Plejaren and also wants to know the truth surrounding this tree, so we should know more soon.
This is a discovery of profound implications. What astute observations by Mr. Rhal Zahi. The devil’s in the details, as they say.
So does this mean that during one of the contacts in 1975 Semjase took Meier on a trip 30 years to the future? If that’s the case, she already knew there would be a large tree on that very spot…more importantly, when.
Semjase then let Meier (in the third millennium) film her beamship as it hovered around that tree, which didn’t exist in 1975, thereby making a footage she knew would be decades old by the time the tree had finally grown to the size and height recorded, thereby providing another mesmerizing piece of evidence for the authenticity of the Meier case.
Think about it. Semjase knew about the tree because she’s a time traveler, which means Meier did in fact travel to the future. And the “tree footage” provides a stunning clue for an objective and clever enough investigator to find, filtering out all the uninterested, half-witted and intellectually dishonest “experts”.
This is mind-boggling. I just can’t shake the feeling that a super-advanced intelligence was behind this. So either the story is true (and the Plejaren are real), or Meier is the greatest magician, showman and hoaxer who ever lived. How could have he done it? He didn’t. He got help from his Plejaren friends.
David, that could be possible, but if I recall Billy usually drove to the contact sites on his own or was directed to them, and was not taken aboard Semjase’s ship, which would negate him being taken into the future, unless Semjase somehow transported him, without his knowledge and then somehow returned him to 1975? I guess we’ll find out soon enough…
Hi, Scott. That’s a good point. Still, the possibilities are quite intriguing. I guess we should wait for any forthcoming clarifications by FIGU and BEAM on the matter. Salome.
In “And still they fly” p.114: “A total of five giant firs were eliminated… along with all memories of these trees (apart from Billy’s)”, “A farmer today can no longer remember the presence of one such tree, although he had sawed off its branches for years…” Book also says that they did this because of radiation that scientists can gain some insights from it if they studied it.
So maybe this tree did exist in 1975 but it was eliminated and then they planted a seed so it regrows. And all memories of it which include photos were removed. But then how did it grow exactly like the original? Perhaps because it was the same kind of seed…
Karl I don`t kind ofthinkthis would be a cloned seed? At least I hope not! “The Plejareans and I are totally against the idea of clonining!”
If what I said is what they did, I don’t think cloning is involved (in the sci-fi sense). I’m not a tree expert, but perhaps there are ways to grow the same tree again, e.g. there’s an article called “How to Grow a New Tree From a Branch”.
Also “Cloning trees by cutting off tree branches and making the cuttings develop root systems is a great way to multiply tree varieties. The cloned trees will be genetically identical to the tree they were taken from. The cloned trees will grow at the same rate and have the same pest resistance as the parent tree.”
The idea behind this was that the tree’s time was reversed taking it back to its original seed state. So be genetics involved. Anyway, we now know Billy says that Quetzal “real projected” the tree from somewhere in the vacinity.
What is one to DO with evidence and explanations of evidence like this?
Not exactly the kind of evidence and explanation that is very convincing, IMO.
Wouldn’t personally want to try to convince someone of the veracity of the “case” based on “evidence” like this.
A tree in a pic that wasn’t at the purported site of the pic in the year it was taken, leading to the rational supposition that the pic wasn’t taken there or was a model.
(I’m staying neutral-positive and not claiming that that is the case but it’s easy to see why someone trying to figure out what is true or not would suppose that.)
And then a whole bunch of speculation as to how a tree that MAY have been big enough to be the one in the pic MAY have been there in the future, although there is actually no proof that it ever grew big enough to be the one in the pic, just supposition based on smaller pics of a tree and then a bare spot.
Billy COULD have time traveled to take the pic is another supposition.
Maybe not, I guess the consensus is “real projection” now.
Was the tree “projected” there into the past where Billy was taking the pic?
Who knows?
Not I.
This topic and explanation certainly hasn’t contributed to my confidence in the material in any way.
No matter what it leaves one in the land of belief and one cannot KNOW.
Like so much else in the material and case.
One has to take the word or words of invisible “gods” and their followers, (invisible to all but a prophet and perhaps a few followers anyways), just like throughout history.
If the information is true, just like the Plejaren ancestors who brought religion into this world.
I don’t personally know what to think about this “case” anymore.
So much seems so right.
But so much just doesn’t make sense to me sometimes.
(I realize by opening up like this I’ve opened myself to attack.
Based on many previous responses to others asking questions I expect it.
I don’t look forward to it, but hey, sometimes one has to share what they’re thinking, damn the consequences.)
Everyone has to think it all through for themselves, so no one here should be attacking you and your reasonable considerations. Certainly this is the most “way out” info. I suggest considering the newly discovered photographs. Nothing to believe and, in time, we may have very definitive answers.
As far as this tree info goes, at the very least we have a film taken in 1975 of a tree that…wasn’t there until 2005. Food for thought.
Thanks for the soft reply Michael.
I’m not trying to sow discord.
Due to my religious background and cultural conditioning, I’m just wary of anything that doesn’t make absolute, complete sense as I’ve misled myself with way too many false beliefs in the past.
I’ve personally found it very painful to find out what I thought was true was not.
BEAM’s explanations of Creation and the purpose of life, his books, and even the 77 steps are the most promising comprehensive teaching’s/material I’ve personally found to help make sense of and improve myself in this confusing world and life I find myself living in.
I’ve been studying it like an old fish will study a bait before it takes it, so to speak.
I want EVERYTHING to line up.
I don’t want to make the same mistakes I’ve made in the past.
It’s a complex “case”, however, with lots of fantastical in’s and outs.
Which makes it hard sometimes for a guy like myself who doesn’t want to be a “believer” but a knower.
Salome.
That’s completely reasonable and rational, Tim. It also makes you a thinker and not a follower. Salome
Hey Tim, look at ‘seems so right’ first, but then definitely second look at ‘doesn’t make sense’ properly, because that’s where the most valuable part of Eduard and the Extraterrestrials works is, because academics didn’t discover so much but Eduards Extraterrestrials knew all already for thousands of years, even knew we were going to be born and talk together about Earth situation stuff.
To a few people who want to know what to DO with spirit teachings, I want to quote a line from Bhagwat Gita
A sufferer ( financially or physically),. A person with thirst for knowledge,. A wise man, all turn towards spiritual teachings
All are Noble.
I agree with the sentiment of your quote, thanks for sharing.
In my experience, I’ve found it important to try to make sure that the spiritual teachings one turns toward are correct teachings, though.
Otherwise one finds oneself instilling false beliefs.
Of which I’ve had a few.
I most likely still have a few.
I once listened to a 10th generation African “shaman” who “preached” about false beliefs while instilling many with the rest of his teachings.
He was right on his main point, though, IMO, that false beliefs are responsible for many of the problems we humans have.
Hello Scientist and Mathematical folks, I see there are scientific and academic folks interested in this blog article. I have an open question may I please ask of a mathematical nature which I was hoping anyone if had maybe found an answer to previously and could summary for me. Plejaren say there is various mathematical systems in the universe, but final results are nevertheless the same, my question about 144,000, I can see from my limited knowledge that 12 x 12 = 144. But how does 144,207 or similar number, come about? I see that the number 12 is somehow special, could it be that 12 point some small fraction is the real special number, I don’t know, I just wonder if anyone did and if they could say it simply for me, please.
144,000,2XX is in reference to individual spirit forms whom have agreed to help make things right on earth before moving onward.
You probably meant 144,2XX probably you were bathed in overpopulation data, it is one medium towns worth and one medium cities worth total 1-3m. The wording of Plejaren and FIGU with that “agreed to help make things right on Earth” not everyone takes what was said over those pages of text with acceptance. Some people have some battle to offer with that, not least the individual personalities, it contravenes the principles of nature etc. But I won’t get into this here, the question was a Mathematics one
Thanks for the correction.
I am a little perplexed. The proof was established “55” years ago. Let us get on with the mission already; the “Spiritual Teaching”.
Pondering if Ptaah and Eduard have discussed the US Presidential Election yet or very soon, and when the contact report will be available.
Perhaps they will discuss the rampant voter fraud. For ex : in the Michigan voter info center https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index
Enter
William Bradley
Born: March 4, 1902
Deid: June 1, 1984
Detroit, MI 48207
You will see that he applied for an absentee ballot on 9/11/2020, he sent it in 1/19/2020 and it was received 10/2/2020
So, someone deceased for 36 years has voted. That is democracty for ya!
Bruce That is the WEIDERDEST post I
ve ever seen on They Fly Blog! How can you explain somebody who died in 1984? Took out am absentee vote in January 19th, 2020 nine moths later in October 2020 and William Bardlley diet 36 years ago? Or is this William Bradley the ghos? This Must be the WEIRDEST ghost stort Iv every heard thus far?Sorry Terry, I made a typo. It should read that he sent it in 8 days after applying for it, so 9/19/2020 and not 1/19/2020. In any case, you can go to the Michigan voter website, plug in the dead guy’s info and see that a vote was cast for this guy who’s been deceased for nearly 40 years, and this is not the only case of the long deceased casting a vote.
Hi Bruce, look up Frank Vaughan on YouTube as his post from 2 hours ago lists dead voters. Sorry I’m unable to copy it here.
Hi Brice I did check out the Michigan voter website and I agree with you but this is just so weird? for a guy who has been dead for well over 40 years is so strange to vote in 2020 is like we are still celebrating Halloween almost 2 weeks ago. Daga-Vu anyone?? Ha ha:) WEARD??
It’s not weird Terry. It’s voter fraud. This also took place in Pennsylvania to a large extent, as I could see by following Sheila’s lead above.
Here is a very impotant article you need to read even though this article is off topic because we CAN`T get and have thses mysterious Energy Sphers due to all the nuclear testing and nuclear weapons here an this barbaric stupid world called Earth: From counterpunch.org for Monday Novemeber 2nd, 2020: “The Parallel Universe of Peace By Robert Koehler
Here is another very important article you need to read that further require the U.S. MUST DO or else there will be NO MORE Planet Earth left! Go Figure: From counterpunch.org “Ending the Nuclear Age By Olivia Perstein
Are we better off today than close to the start of 2020? Covid19 will likely be here for another year+. Voted by mail 3+ weeks back but one side won’t be happy with the outcome. Some humor during these times of change.
Most parts of USA have not even seen Covid19 yet, if they had they would have taken it deadly seriously, leaving home as the difference between life and death. The economic lockdowns will be with us for another 18 months, but getting it badly first time around means the longdeath or long covid as some are calling it. It means recovering from covid every week and sleeping half of it and being lethargic. It means sweating at night, finding it hard to breath, headaches, discomfort etc. There were not many stories of the pains and agony of it because broadcasters cant televise a persons pains and death agony, and every patient is different so they got criticised for getting it wrong. It was seen as an old person thing and the coughing up of lung tissue and lung filling up with water was difficult to capture on film without the artist also having problems. You should be fearful in USA of covid arriving, because it only arrived in some places already since january 2019 in 22 months, it was spread worldwide but not to everyone. It is like the radiation that falls down from the upper atmosphere from atom bombs tests still today, one particle can cause cancer, but most people even if they do ingest it they flush it out or it doesn’t get lodged in the body. With covid someone might have it, but for whatever reason it doesn’t transfer on some batch of cases who get it but not infected that time and then there is also those individuals who react to covid19 by having diarrhoea and others who it takes months for it to show, over which time the origin is not clear, it could have been during a trip other side of country etc., but not from local environment.
Hi Daniel, I heard last night I heard that COVID 19 is 10 times worse and more dangerous than the flue. As amtter of fact cruse ships are locking down again un till the spring of 2021. If you decide to travel by plain you wil;l have to bring all your credentials with you to prove that you arenegative and not carring the COVID 19 wih you on the plane too. My big worry and concern is that things will just get even worse as the years go by now that this COVID 19 is permanent and for good and just kill all of Planet Earth out for millennias! It dosen
t look and feel as if things will ever get any better now that this terrible virus is here forever and the election isnt going to even help[ ether! I don`t even see the light atthe end of this very very dark tunnel! I wonder just how wewill ever get by and survive if at all!Hey Terry, I am British, from England, and so I receive commentary in half a dozen languages and correspondences from a dozen different cultural identities every time an event of any kind occurs that effect all of us. And so since March I have been hearing the stories and watching the videos and the tail-end of conversations from down and along the grapevine of doctors, nurses in hospitals, police officers in cities and government officials of authorities and councils in planning and responsible positions etc., etc., about this pandemic and disease. And I can tell you for sure that I see for clarity based on the information we have been passing back and forth between Canada and Australia, that I can see that USA has not been and is not prepared sufficiently and comparatively to other advanced developed nations economies, in terms of real insight and cognition of the disease and its real effects on different people types, ages, races, demographics and when and how it is bad and gets out of hand. I see this with some clarity that only very small proportions, minorities in USA are receiving telecommunications from outside the country and much is internal, and I see people like MH are in many ways a vital servicemen and link to the outside world, which is quite exotic for many people. The truth is this disease has really been causing problems across Europe, and we really know something about pandemics in Europe, lots of experience and expertise.
Hey bloke,
Since 2019, I’ve been one of the few who’s believed that Biden was the only option to beat Trump (could sway votes from the right). If Biden wins he may just be a 1 term President given his age IMO. I’ve been getting dumber by the day following politics for the past few months. Trump’s anti environment – of which a lot of it does not get media national play. He’s literally done away with a lot of Obama’s measures on climate and emissions. The Amazon is burning out of control with the Brazilian President playing it false media non believer narrative that Trump plays.
Getting back to the point, come end of January 2021 we can finally expect real federal involvement nationally when it comes to Covid19. Yes, too late and especially with the emergence of a new wave, but hopefully towards the end of 2021 the US can get a better hand on Covid19 while preparing for the likely long-term effects for those who have experienced mild/severe systems likely due to weaker immune systems . I also just heard in the news that over 19+ million firearms have been sold in just the last 7 months in the US. Alarming, especially with Trump possibly not accepting defeat once all the votes are counted. In the end it’s about the lesser of two evils.
That’s quite an illusion you have that Canada and Australia are doing better, no one is except maybe Taiwan who shut down flights from China and made masks mandatory, they have 7 deaths and no new cases for over 200 days.
All 5 eyes received a military intelligence briefing in January 2020 about coronavirus. They knew it was airborne and highly contagious and chose to lie to citizens to stop panic. They continue to lie about these basic facts. There are no winners with SARSCOV2.
A new case of H1N2 just appeared in Alberta Canada. The person just walked right into the hospital. There are only 16 cases of this worldwide.
Sheila,
I believed China’s outbreak would return strong at some point but this comes down to cooperation, everyone wears face masks and has no problems living their daily lives with facial masks. As sad as it is to say we can observe what countries are more cooperative and which struggle to contain the virus. Of course China’s ruling party has a lot of say in matters there but things could be worse.
Jim
Of course we should wear masks and social distance.
You should watch this video: https://youtu.be/46DfBFWxTuM
This is what really happened in China from the people who were actually there when it happened.
Then tell me how great the rest of the world is doing with rallies and Covid denial and propaganda.
“This is Off Topic: Joe Biden was just elected to become the next president of the U.S.A. :)))
Trump is trying to get a legal team together to declare that “STUPID DUMB TRUMP won the election and do ANYTHING to get back in the White House be it 2021 0r 2025 or both!” That Trump has some goal to get away with that stupid trick is so just so INSANE!:(((
Terry,
Agree, but what happened to the “Russia Collusion Narrative” from the Dems. Even the media states Trump’s lies are unfounded as no evidence exists. Same goes with the 2016 campaign when Hillary lost. Just shows how both parties try to control their base. This may get ugly if it keeps playing on form 6+ weeks Trump’s childish refusal that he lost. I get the feeling Trumps wife may divorce him once everything is said and done IMO.