And nobody is coming to save us from ourselves
Billy Meier was first given the 2020 date, for the demise of the United States of America, in 1975. His undeniably impeccably accurate, worldwide environmental warnings began decades earlier. Now, as the time fulfills, the accompanying, deteriorating geopolitical situation, and equally ubiquitous moral and ethical degeneration can also no longer be denied.
And nobody is coming to save us from ourselves.
Forget about UFOs
I recently gave a presentation on the Billy Meier UFO contacts, in Sedona, AZ. And, after establishing the singular authenticity of these still ongoing contacts with the Plejaren extraterrestrial human race, I encouraged, in fact almost pleaded with, the audience to basically…forget about UFOs.
I instead recommended that we grasp the essential reasons for the Meier contacts, now that the still irreproducible UFO evidence has stirred the controversy and the “higher standard of proof”, i.e. the voluminous, specific, prophetically accurate information, has gotten our attention. Both of these elements were intended to lead us to our study, testing and implementation of the spiritual teaching.
Since 2004, I’ve said that the Meier contacts are the key to our future survival and the spiritual teaching is the how-to-assure-it. Beyond that, in fact, it’s the way to live.
Right on Schedule
We only need to go to Sfath’s 1948 letter to see that recent news from Italy, about earthquakes and potential volcanic activity regarding Campi Flegri, appear to be coming…right on schedule.
There’s no need to panic though. We can’t stop the inevitable fulfillment of these predictions (acquired through time travel, meaning they will happen with certainty) but we can do our best to avoid them and warn others.
Don’t waste your time though with the know-it-alls and smug, so-called scientists at the USGS and SETI, or the dabblers at MUFON. So far, the whole lot of them appear to be more interested in preserving their jobs, tenure, celebrity status, etc., even if it means going down with the proverbial ship…or planet.
The Whole Crop of Them
And that seems to apply to scientists in a wide array of fields. Even in the fields where the crops are grown.
Science, like many other things, is a double-edged sword. The problem is that the mentality of human beings, especially among the military of countries like ours, and others, is to use that sword to cut its own throat…and that of as many other human beings they can possibly take with them.
And nobody is coming to save us from ourselves.
Please see: The Billy Meier UFO Contacts: New Prophecies & Predictions in preparations for our next show, which will discuss Reverse Engineering the Billy Meier Predictions.
See also:
NEW Prophecies and Predictions from Billy Meier
Stunning New Proof of Meier’s Prophetically Accurate Information!
New Corroboration of Billy Meier’s Prophetically Accurate Scientific Information
Billy Meier Foretold New Russian Moon Mission in 2011
Fake News Attacks Foretold in…1948!
Ho-hum, Meier Right Again, this Time about Dangers of Space Travel
The Latest Pseudoscientific Scam from SETI
The Cynical Fraud that Is SETI
Contact 251 (Info, from 1995) about Mars, robots, semi-human hybrids, AI, etc.)
Consciousness Awareness Workshop.
And then there’s this:
Stets bleibe ich entspannt und gewinne dadurch Macht über mich selbst.
I always remain relaxed and thereby gain might over myself.
Recommended Reading:
The Way to Live
Humankind doesn’t have the faintest idea regarding what life’s all about and how to live it. Consider this your personal sanity and survival system.
Get it here!
Thanks to Luka Botica for info on the new quake in Italy.
Hi Mary If you remember what Asket said years ago that DAL and DERN universes gently nudge one aonther and the we all exist toather in the two egg univreses. Each one exist because of the other in other words we exist because of the other. We could not exist without the other as Asket once explained to Billy years ago back in the 1950s and early 1060s. Mabye this is what the string theory is all about.
Hi Terry,
Our universe existed for a short while without the DAL universe because the DAL universe is slightly younger. I couldn’t find anything from Asket saying we couldn’t exist without each other. Maybe you know where I could find that information? Here is information about both universes. Salome
DAL Universe
Our own DERN Universe, is one of a ‘two-egg twin’, with the DAL Universe as its slightly younger twin.
Like the DERN Universe, Nokodemjon also conceived the name of the DAL-Universe: Dajansini Arg Lasergnoralin, meaning “Creation as second born”.
The DAL Universe gently nudges the 7th outer belt of our DERN Universe. Travel between Universes is made possible through advanced knowledge and technology.
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/DAL_Universe
DERN Universe
Our universe.
The Big Bang created our universe 46 trillion years ago (46,000,000,000,000 as opposed to current Earth scientists’ estimation of 16,000,000,000).
Approximately 1,500,000,000,000 years after the Big Bang the first solid matter came into existence.
Sister or twin or parallel universe to the DAL Universe.
40 trillion years ago were formed the first solid matter.
39 trillion years ago were formed the first hominid lifeforms. 40,353,607 original human races created by Creation. 343 different skins colours.
The Milky Way now has 7.5 million human civilisations.
Billions of races now exist in the universe. Due to merging of races.
The stars in our universe are much more spread apart than in the DAL Universe.
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/DERN_Universe
Hi Melissa, That`s where I got the information however I could make out the numbers sionce I read this years ago. I think Asket told Billy this back in 1953 when they met in the deserts of Jordan? But this was way back in the beginning of the 21rst century in one of the CR. I `ll have to look it up. I`ll let you now soon? But I think you just mentioned it anyway. Salome
Hi Matt,
Your words (and Billy’s prophecy poem words) affected me so deeply, I am going to have to snap myself out of the “down” mindset I am currently in. If I imagine a world without the UK, it is not the same world anymore. Civilizations will rise and fall as the balance of power shifts, and these world governments have no idea the depth of the fire they are playing with by not following the FIGU recommendations. Much will change for the detriment of the people if we (collectively spoken) “lock in” prophecies to set them into “fulfilling motion” to come true alongside the predictions that are set in stone. Perhaps we all need to stand strong when facing the future, we are going to have it hard enough with all the negative predictions that will ceaselessly fulfill, not to mention the world-changing cataclysms if the prophecies from old come true as well.
Now is the time for the very old gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit, and now is the time for a banishment system for terrorists, murderers, criminals, and instigators of war. Now is the time for a birth-stop. Now is the time for birth-rate checks, and now is the time to short-circuit the prophecies, and let religion go for the masses. A god that does not exist can neither help you, nor harm you. What exists whether you follow them or not, is the natural (laws and recommendations of the Creation). When the predictions fulfill, cause and effect will be the lesson giver of the next centuries.
Cheers Matt, take care of yourself (you and yours) always, and we will all face the future together, no matter what happens for the detriment, we are not alone. The mission will need “mission-helpers” to help clean up this mess, and perhaps be witnesses in court when the lawsuits start, afterwards, when the whole world wonders “why weren’t we admonished by the truth-bringer”. 22,000 world scientists read his bulletins, why weren’t some of these people calling birth-stops, and using the world’s media to educate John Q Public that overpopulation will only bring disaster?
Hi Corey, You took the words right out of my mouth because I`v been saying the same thing fore years ever since I read the Prophecies and Predictions along time ago. “We need to get rid of all these religions, politics, corporations, wars, overpopulation, pollution, global warming, climate change including the military industrial complex and so on or else we will perish and die. The sooner we get over all these issues the better off we will be the less chance for a nuclear war etc!”
Terry, a late reply;
I’m on the move but will check out what both you and Melissa said in relation to String Theory, which is also what ancient Yogic science has described for thousands of years.
May I ask what country you are in?
Hi Mary, I didn’t really go into the String Theory discussion, but this is my opinion.
I’ve been following String Theory, but as I’m sure you’ll agree, scientists are missing some very important things that keep them from proving their hypothesis. And since science deals in only testable and measurable material reality, we will continue to lack the necessary instruments to measure some of these things — at least for awhile. String Theory purports to be the theory of everything, but there are still a few forces of nature that scientists don’t yet know exist. Some scientists probably know they exist from Billy and the Plejaren, but they haven’t figured them out yet, at least, going by the info they give to the public, they haven’t. And until they take more serious and find a way to measure the power of thought vibrations, consciousness, the spirit realm and fine fluidal Forces, they will be stuck with just a hypothesis and not a measurable theory. A theory of everything cannot exist without these forces. Salome
Hi I`m from North America on the north east in White plains, NY just 45 minutes from New York City in Weschester County The Hudson Valley area. You can look it up on Google map to tell me where I stand as far as string theory and the future floods will happen that is if I`m still here. I guess I`ll be gone by the time Apothis hits Earth unless NASA and the US are willing to put the money and effort into destroying Apthis by 2029 or 2036 that`s IF I`m steel here to say nothing of the Yellowstone caldera?
Terry,
Wat do you think happens when our body dies?
What do Billy’s teachings say?
Hi Terry, didn’t I mention to you awhile ago to stop thinking about dying when your 80? Just because your parents passed at that age, it does not mean you will. Every generation lives a wee bit longer than the last generation, on average. That’s how evolution works. It’s also not good for you to think and “believe” that you will pass at a certain age. Your belief in something like that can make it happen. It’s called the placebo effect.
You could live to be 102 years old if you take good care of yourself and learn to think in a neutral positive way. Even if you’re disabled, it’s never too late to start. I’m asking you as a friend, please stop thinking negatively about yourself. Deal?
Salome
I second that. Melissa
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Hi Melissa,
Yes, I think the low coastal areas around the globe are done for. For a long time to come, our descendants will have ruined remnants of underwater cities to visit anytime they want to see how backwards, excessive living was done. It would be nice to think our descendants will progress and consider this excess backwards.
When the devastating Portland 9.0 and treacherous tsunami happen, this will be a bad day. The casualties could number very high. Then there is the great SF quake that will befall us in the USA, the American Caldera will blow, NY and parts of the east coast will be underwater. It’s not just us, these events will be all around the globe. Look what will happen to Italy destroyed by volcanoes, UK and parts of Ireland underwater, northern Europe will be uninhabitable (sentence 122 of Sfath’s 1948 predictions), and also at some point then the German Caldera will blow which will be a very bad time. And if Apophis isn’t deflected, we are in for a very bad time.
Causality will be our greatest “lesson-giver” not to live in excess. Something as simple as planetary birth-control with birth-rate checks, and ceasing of all excessive overexploitation of the Earth’s natural resources (one of Semjase’s 5 points of the 45th contact) could have prevented what is to come, and what will come for a long time, and what will come for 200 years unless we change it (change causes back to positive).
There are days when I can close my eyes, and in my mind I can almost see a very different future landscape for my people. Some ruin, some devastation, some countries are changed, and some disappeared altogether.. a prevailing feeling of sadness permeates the altered landscape, and the masses have generally no idea what is coming due them, the masses, the people, are living in a fantasy world that mocks the natural (the Creation).
I have proposed on the FIGU English-Forums several times that the world’s media needs to be utilized to modify public opinion away from excessive procreation, and to move the world towards a birth-stop.
Corey, How are we going to get the Catholic church to comply with the birth stop and birfth check?
In my rant I forgot to add that (also according to sentence 122 of Sfath’s ’48 predictions) large parts of Japan will be devoured by the sea. In another document, BEAM mentioned Hawaii will disappear. I think there will hardly be any groups of people that will remain untouched, in what by all rights sounds like it will play out to be the most tragic time in modern human history, (the decades after 2020/2030) in which terrestrial science is already calling the Anthropocene Era, or, the era when human activity influences the climate.
Yes, and with wanton greed…
Hi Melissa,
Yes, there are so many things we don’t know. But from what we have grasped in relation to anti-matter, it seems that there is a growing agreement by physicists that everything has at least an anti-matter opposite which includes us.
Personally, via dreams, or rather memorable events when the body is asleep, and several NDE’s and OBE’s experiences, I know without a doubt that I exist in different time-lines/dimensions. These came before researching physics and other things and later were unfathomable in terms of simply putting it down to our psychology.
Mind-blowing is a phrase that can be used for such experiences.
Mary there are multiverses but only ONE YOU as Ptaah explained to Billy some time ago. Salome Terry
That’s interesting…
Terry can you please send the link?
Feeling exhausted as today was my 6th app in 8 days with a dentist Indian-style.
No cloves, a black with scum and a shared bottle of water to swish your mouth out You have to get out from the chair and walk across the room to do this. There’s not even a bar of soap or dirty towel.
The drill and instruments pass from mouth to mouth without so much as a wipe clean. There’s no dentist’s light… chair is broken which he supports with his foot…
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Everything I thought was unexplainable has been explained by Billy Meier’s material. There aren’t any mysteries left that cannot be identified. But that doesn’t stop people from making extraordinary claims because in their minds that’s more important than making sure their current health status isn’t compromised. Some simply refuse to deal with reality perhaps because it’s easier for them to live in a mystery wrapped up in an enigma…
NDE and OBE are meaningless in the grand scheme.
I know that Mary’s going through some rough times health wise. And what Sheila points out about taking care of our health is so very important.
I’m working on a blog for this weekend and I’m going to make mention of a free offer for those who are interested that’s health related and also pertains to some current topics.
And in the grand scheme of things there is no room for constant condemnation, wanton nastiness and so forth – with no patience -open-mindedness for others experiences and situations.
Back-off Sheila. You are obsessively hounding me off this blog – the only nasty person I have met in doing research on the Net.
For sure your comments are putting others off this blog.
Mary, maybe you should start reading instead of asking for the CR then you would know what Billy says about NDE and OBE. You think I’m harsh, lol read the Contact Reports and do your ranting at that. You have to look at both the negative and positive to get to neutral positive. We only ride horses around here, not unicorns.
And maybe you should start focusing on Billy’s spiritual teachings by practicing them.
You have sent me over 6 ugly nasty psychotic personal emails the likes that I did not know was possible on social media. Even in my work, I have never come across someone as attacking as you – saying you will hound me – full of abuse that both Melissa and Michael have seen.
And now it’s in a supposedly ‘nicer’ tone but still full of tricks.
Now back-off because you are proving to everyone on this blog that you have an unbalanced and obsessive psychological problem.
Melissa – what do you say because you know the full story? In an increasingly aggressive/violent world, this stalking/cunning Internet abuse is allowed to go on on this blog?
Practice what teachings – where – if we can’t understand and practice them when we converse?
Can anyone on this blog understand that there should be far more people engaging – and ask why this is not so?
You are both right. It is first and foremost up to each individual to research and find the answers they seek. However, if someone is genuinely questioning and asking for an explanation, we should offer the knowledge we have to them. We should help each other grow in consciousness because we are all one small piece of the whole. There’s a time for harsh and then there’s a time for compassion and understanding. Billy is harsh and frank, but he’s also loving, nurturing, guiding and fair–a perfect teacher.
Let’s stop this feud, for lack of a better word, and move on. We have many more important matters to deal with and expose. If Mary says something that doesn’t align with the contact reports, show her where to find it. She is very reasonable and will take the time read it and digest it. We all have had our own understandings of how things work before we became deeply involved in this case. Some folks may use different words to express things and they are not necessarily wrong. The Peaceful People from an adjacent Universe call Creation the Power. They aren’t wrong if their understanding of the word means the same thing as Creation means to us. They just find a different way to express their understanding. Let’s be more like the Peaceful People. Salome
https://theyflyblog.com/2015/03/02/the-peaceful-people/
Melissa,
Thank you for your response. The link you sent regarding that peaceful world is interesting and reminds me of The Green Beautiful.
Indeed, with science saying we live in eternal infinity, there simply has to be far saner, kinder – ultimately more aware states of existence.
What also came across was they way Billy and Paaht (spelling?!) communed with the greatest respect. The lack of respect – the slang – the aim to compete in conversation – has rapidly increased via programming media in the last 60 years.
So has perverse psychological games between people. We were never this complex and split in our psychologies when I was young – even in a place like London.
And what can be expected when we have been forced-fed brutal and perverted images – cleverness in one-up-man-ship – a gross way of dealing with each other in every conceivable way?
‘We only ride horses around here, not unicorns.’
That’s what Sheila said and I’m not taking it; not being bullied on this impersonal medium. I could write a 5-page psychological paper on the roots of that comment.
Is anyone on this blog aware on this blog of the staggering amount of suicides – especially with younger people – via Internet bullying?
In the remotest Himalayas, live with tribal people who converse with each other with the greatest respect and generosity. They know that in such regions especially, good relations means survival. Shortly the worldly system will collapse and we will have to relate with the utmost sensitivity – or die.
Nuff said %)
YouTube channel “UFOmania – The truth is out there” posted a video earlier today about the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles, CA. The closing ceremony had Lionel Ritchie perform, and then I guess a flying beam ship hovered over the crowd. Someone was in a suit with a mask on is shown, with both arms up. This is news to me. I glanced at two library books about the history of The Olympics, where one mentions this very briefly, and another doesn’t mention at all. Whoever reads this, Take Care.
l read a contact note prior to Trumps election where Ptaaah said that if ”certain forces” took power in the US, that lslamic state would be defeated, America would be rebuilt and that the US would not collapse in 2020.. It seems he was referring to Donald Trump.
First, please use your first and last name when posting future comments.
Also, I see no mention of what you’re referring to in this contact:
https://theyflyblog.com/2016/11/20/trump-according-to-billy-meier-and-the-plejaren/
Please provide a link to the one you are referring to.
Thanks.
The contact lam talking about came in the months before Trump was elected and l dont have link and cant find it. l have a definite memory of the Ptaah talking about certain forces taking power in the US and stopping ISIS as well as averting a collapse.
Hi Irene sometimes the memory isn’t as good as what we wished it was.
Hi Irene,
You can see if your recollection is correct by searching for the word Trump at:
https://www.theyflyblog.com
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com
http://www.figu.org
The name Trump was not mentioned, though thankyou for your sly poke at my memory, it was distasteful and unwarranted.
What an unusually ridiculous response and attitude to my taking the time to provide you with assistance in searching through the rather abundant information.
Irene, try Contact Report 544.
Please note that the possible collapse of the USA was forecast ‘after the year 2020 (nach dem Jahr 2020)’ not in 2020.
After Trump it is likely that the next presidential election will be heavily rigged to ensure that the USA returns to ‘business as usual’ which means more war.
What is required to defeat the ISIS has been discussed several times but none of those measures have taken place so consequentially Islamist extremism will continue to grow and spread.
MH’s memory comment used the word ‘we’ so perhaps there has been a misunderstanding. If you ever struggle to locate information in the contact reports give the contact report index a try on the futureofmankind site. It’s constantly in work but worth a look.
Stephen, ISIS has been nearly completely defeated since Donald Trump took office, the last populated area under its control in Syria was attacked and over run by SDF with US air support within the last 2 weeks.
Trump was mentioned in at least 4 different contact reports when I put the word Trump in the search bar, as Michael suggested. Contact 663, 679, 706, and 707 all mention Trump.
Make that 5 contact reports. Contact 704 also mentions Trump.
The contact report l read stated the US would not collapse if certain forces emerged, though it did not mention Donald Trump. Given the defeat of ISIS and the stated mission of Trump to rebuild the US, it stands to reason the report was referring to him. There is no fault in my memory when it comes to this recollection. l read this report and am trying to relocate it.
You will have to do the research if you want to find what you are looking for in the contact reports. If you are adamant about what you read, then you shouldn’t be opposed to putting in the time and effort to retrieve the information. You also shouldn’t throw stones at people who are trying to be helpful in your quest. No one here is calling you a liar, we just don’t have the contact report to back up your memory.
It’s also possible that the Plejaren weren’t referring to President Trump. I seem to recall a contact report that discussed something similar to what you mentioned when Obama was president. Ptaah was discussing how things could turn for the better depending on which policies the Obama administration pursued. However, that didn’t completely pan out because Obama was too weak to push back against his power-hungry advisors. Unfortunately, this has been the case with all U.S. Presidents in the modern day.
Good luck on your search.
lam not opposed to putting in what time l see the subject warrants and definitely lam not accusing anyone of calling me a liar, since no one has.. As far as the notion that Trump is under the same orders as Obama was? Well given the opposition he is dealing with on all fronts both within and without, it seems abundantly clear he is not playing ball with the same forces which controlled Obama.. Ptaah himself said Trump would set out ”against the globalists” and so far he is clearly doing that.. ln my opinion he is the positive condition the Plejaren alluded to. ISIS is toast globalism is being confronted by a brave president and America is revitalized .. Its an incredible time to be alive. l hope you agree.. Lots of love to you Melisa..
Hi Irene, yes, I would agree that Trump is pushing back against the globalists far more than Obama was able to do, but the fact still remains that Trump is being pressured by those around him as were all previous U.S. Presidents. What he is able to fully accomplish still remains to be seen. Obviously I hope for the best, but the forces against him are very strong and we have to remember that the elites don’t care if they push this country into a civil war to get what they want. It’s a dangerous time to be alive because we are heading into that part of the Henoch prophecies where civil war and civil unrest become the norm all over the world. Salome
Melissa I wrote this about Trump based on the pattern derived from all the CRs I’ve read by Billy and the Plejaren.
Newinitiation post 1714, 1715
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=prev&topic=14&page=14961
Newinitiation Post 1717, 1718, 1719
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=14&page=14961
Thanks, Matt, I’ll take a look at it.
Hi Melisa!,, l agree the elites want a civil war here and/or a total economic collapse, which of course means civil war. l’m not confused by the Fed’s unreasonably aggressive interest rate hikes either. That org is owned by Zionists.
l’d like you to consider something else with me please .
Billy’s future trip from 76′ showed Sanfrancisco intact at the time of the great quake and un molested by civil or nuclear war.. The cars are most likely (from Wendell Stevens observations) self driving.
One could reasonably calculate that day to be as soon as eight or ten years from now, and as far as fifteen to twenty. This indicates safe passage for the US through 2020 and beyond.
l would like to read what you have to say. Love lrene..
It’s possible that the earthquake is further in the future than we suspect.
I honestly think that we are way past a safe passage. I can’t say exactly when the civil war would begin, but I don’t think there is any way to avoid it at this point. There’s just too many different groups vying for dominance in this country and we have no real cultural identity to hold us together. There’s nothing I can say in particular that will convince you one way or the other, but I’ve been around long enough to know that things are terribly wrong in this country. I always remain hopeful that we will come to our senses, but I have to be realistic too.
Melisa, Billy has not said a civil war is inevitable. Highly possible, but not inevitable. The anarchy Billy saw for 2017 , only occurred in a managable form, with Antifa’s response to the election results and did not take hold and flourish into civil war.
Also, the time travel pics did not show a 4th world war had taken place, this has to be admitted. lf you see factual fault or logical gap, please advise.
l do enjoy your indulgence and perspective.. Salome Irene.
Irene, I’m not talking about a 4th World War. I’m referring strictly to an American civil war and Billy absolutely has said that the U.S. civil wars will happen. You have to remember that Billy is capable of things that we can’t even fathom. He’s not going to see things in 2017 like some psychic who has a 10% chance of being right. Henoch made these predictions thousands of years ago and Billy has access to those storage banks. When Billy says, yes, America will be completely devastated, you can bet he knows what is coming.
Antifa really isn’t the reason for the civil war. They are a symptom of all that is wrong in America, but the real hostility falls more among the different racial and religious versus non-religious groups. Consider what the 5 different territories would be if/when America breaks up. If you can imagine which areas would be the areas to split, then you can imagine the reasons for the split. Why would Texas split? Why would California and the west coast split? Why would the southern states split? These areas are all quite different in their culture and core values. Some places live and breathe the constitution while other places want desperately to get rid of the constitution and the electoral college. There are many other reasons as well, but I think you get my point.
Hi Irene,
I also wanted to mention about the latest information regarding a possible World War 4. That threat had simmered down for a little while, but this latest contact (711) with Ptaah, https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/zeitzeichen/figu_zeitzeichen_109.pdf, tells a different story. It hasn’t been translated into English yet, but I was able to pop it into Google translate to get the gist of what’s going on. Michael also talks about it in episode 43 of his live show. It appears that the possibility of World War 4 is back in the picture again front and center. From what I was able to understand from the poor translation is that Trump is severely negatively affected in his consciousness and has had organic changes in his brain. He’s become paranoid and irrational in his behavior to the point of making stupid decisions regarding treaties and contracts with foreign nations. His psyche has become severely affected.
Trump initially started out wanting a sincere friendship with Russia and he also wanted to worry about America first, but as time goes on, you can see he has been pressured to turn against Russia. That’s not what he originally wanted, but the pressure from his anti-Russian advisors has been too much for him. So now we are pushing Russia and also China to the point of no return. We could be seeing the initial escalation of the next World War — a nuclear war. In recent news, both Russia and China have said that they are preparing for war. I’m talking about actual military and government leaders in both of these countries stating that they are preparing for war.
Another disturbing fact that Billy pointed out is that 99.6 percent of Earthlings are degenerated (sick in the head) and will continue to pass those degenerate genes to all future generations. With 99.6 percent of humanity being degenerate, we can easily see why we have “violence, murder and manslaughter, torture, coercion, wars, revolutions, terrorism, rape, lies, deceit, hatred, strife, bondage, injustice and slander etc. and so on”.
Check out the contact link above when you have the time. You’ll have to copy and paste a few paragraphs at a time into Google translate, but it’s well worth deciphering. Salome
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to Michael
Melisa, the Henock ”prophesies” about America and the world are not predictions. A prediction is a set in time event which will occur with a 100% assurance. A prophesy is a possible future event based on current trends. Civil war and the complete destruction of America is only prophesied and will not absolutely occur. The great earthquake is part of the earths geological time clock/ is predicted to occur and will absolutely occur with 100% assurance.
Please remember that the 4th world war will be preceded with event indicators, which include the eruption of Vesuvius and the deaths of around 4 world leaders within one week. When these events occur, we will be less than two years from WW4.. They have not occurred. We should be aware of the dangers but not be hot headed and illogical. Salome Irene.
Irene,
Predictions are also what happens when prophecies have passed the point of no return. Listen carefully to what Meier says here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRJoJjzcig&t=2s
Also, see the predictions of Jeremia:
http://www.theyfly.com/1989-predictions-prophet-jeremia
Think about this sentence:
“However, on the other side of the big ocean, the walls of cities and villages of the conquerors wanting to seize the might over the world will collapse, and the might will then only be destroyed and be a scorched land and only be muddy water.”
And this from the HP:
“Enormous firestorms and gigantic hurricanes will sweep over the USA and bring devastation, destruction and annihilation, as this from time immemorial never before will have happened.”
The info about the four heads of state is also merely a prophecy and need not occur for the rest to happen. There’s no joy in pointing this out. It’s just that, in accordance with one of the foundational principles of the spiritual teaching, we must…see things as they actually are.
As Melissa pointed out, there is more, troubling info in the new contact as well. None of this need not ruin our day, in fact it may help us to live more consciously and productively.
Salome,
MH
Yes, thank you, Michael. This is why I used prediction instead of prophecy. We are past the point of being able to change it. Certain parts of the prophecies have changed because we managed to avert the world war for a while, but much of the main devastation hasn’t changed. Certain sequences of events have changed and probably some new situations have been calculated, but I don’t think Billy or the Plejaren will be giving us much more in the way of prophecies and predictions. We don’t take the right steps to change for the better.
I’d say to keep an eye on current events. The best thing we can do is be prepared mentally and physically. We can’t stop what is coming since we are the minority. As Michael suggested, live consciously and productively and continue to do the right thing. That is very important.
Also, if you can participate in the Salome peace meditation, every little bit helps. Salome
Irene,
It was Sheila that suggested your memory may be waning and not Michael. From what I can see, Michael was trying to be helpful.
At the end of the day, it’s patience/forgiveness (love) that sees us through everything…
The following is not new, by a long shot, and applies to ALL conscious of their consciousness Beings in this here Universe that they ALL find themselves in:
“493. Refrain yourself, human being of the Earth, from any single lovelessness in thoughts, which you otherwise express only too easily.
494. Consider that EACH one amongst you requires leniency, for EACH one is not without fault.
495. Thus however, if you do not heed this and name an error in him/her, the ones next to you or the ones next to them, thus you do them an unright therein, that you bear false witness against them, for you pay attention only to THEIR words and deeds, however, not to the same errors which indwell in yourself.
496. Thereby, however, you only let your own guilt become audible, which you shift onto the ones next to you and therefore bear false witness against him/her.
497. Because how can you find justification in falsely blaming others of your own errors?
498. Thus you are therefore instructed therein: “You shall not bear false witness against the truth, the Creation and the life”, which says to you, that at all times you shall value all things with a good and true testimony, for only in this manner alone are you able to exist in the truth.
499. For this reason, pay attention to any lovelessness in any of your actions, so you never and never commit them, because any doing of this kind means a false testimony.
500. Therefore practise love, and often and often only love, through which you do not expose the errors of the ones next to you and the ones next to them, which are also your own errors.
– DECALOGUE/DODECALOGUE pp. 122-124.
In short, in my opinion:
“Practise what you screech.”
AND,
DON’T, “Point the finger if you dare.”, but, “ONLY point the finger if, and only if, you are worthy.”
Thank you for posting that, Andrew. It was lovely to read and written in a way that carries weight.
Hope you are well.
As well as any double agent can be expected to be, I guess!
Just doing my bit to keep the masses from conmenting on this blog, you know, gotta pay the bills and such.
Thankou you are a rude and arrogant man .
Ah yes, no good deed or intention goes unpunished.
Hi Irene Clow, I made that comment, not Michael. Please feel free to apologize to him. Sometimes memories aren’t that accurate and that’s a sad fact but a fact indeed. If you find the proof that your memory was accurate, please share it, thanks.
I personally have a memory of a thread you were involved in right here:
https://theyflyblog.com/2014/07/26/disconnected/
Care to comment about that?
Yes, l agree the possibility of a civil war is still there.. l recall Billy saying in 2013/14 that the chance of anarchy in the US by 2017 was high. That coincides with the Antifa response to Trumps election, which failed to bring about anarchy but his deep state/globalist opponents were pushing for for it, as a way to dissolve any chance Trump could be effective.
Somehow all of the most horrendous forecasts have been mitigated or softened which gives me great hope.. Remember we have 5 to 6 billion extraterrestrials participating in the peace meditation, that is ocean of love and compassion. l think we would have been finished decades ago if it weren’t for this intervention. lf people only knew the reality of what is occurring. Love Irene..
Hi Irene,
Actually, as the new contact report notes, Trump is pushing and being pushed into dangerous territory, with indications that he is moving events towards the fulfillment of much of what is foretold in the Henoch Prophecies, including a war with Russia. It would be very nice of course if things were really rosy and bright but such is not the case. Many of the long foretold environmental events are soon to come upon us, along with the geopolitical and financial ones.
The current conditions civilly and internationally do not put us in a position to have to admit that any kind of civil or nuclear war is unavoidable.. They remain prophesies only, until the events become unavoidable.. Only the possibility for these things exists and this is the absolute truth of our situation..
No one is forced to admit anything, yes, you are correct. I personally just refuse to deny reality. Everyone has a choice.
Salome
Iam dealing with the truth Melisa are you? Where is your unavoidable civil war?
Irene, let’s agree to disagree. We don’t have to agree. Isn’t that a beautiful concept? We can still be friendly while having different views on things. This is precisely what’s wrong with folks and why civil war is inevitable, in MY opinion. It’s so hard for people to stop imposing their will on others.
Irene,
Like many/most things in life, civil wars don’t just occur one, seemingly out of nowhere. They evolve in a process…which is well underway in America. Everything occurs accordance with the law of cause and effect. We just have to pay attention, observe, think, reflect, etc., to understand.
OK, Melisa of course we can agree to disagree.. lt is my opinion that the a civil war is NOT PREDICTED and is”100% AVOIDABLE, based on case fact. l was simply asking you to justify your opinion in regard to those facts. lf you found that as a form of aggression or hostility, then please be assured l will not ask you to do so again.
On a another note, Sanfrancisco still remains intact at the time of the great quake, which deals a death blow to hysterical notions of a WW4 event between now and then.
The assertion that certain preceding time markers are mute considerations, is not backed up by any LITERAL STATEMENT by Billy or the Plejaren. Irresponsible opinion based projections, ignore case fact, foster fear, agitation and add to the possibility of a conflict. Salome
Irene, you really have no way of knowing when the San Francisco quake will occur and whether or not the city was rebuilt or repaired after the war. I don’t know why you keep basing your whole theory around San Francisco’s earthquake. Just because Billy tells Quetzal to take him to Frisco doesn’t mean that the city is exactly the same as it is today. Any damage could have been repaired. It’s also possible that San Francisco doesn’t sustain as much damage as some of the larger cities. Look at parts of Syria that are already being rebuilt after years of devastating civil war. Some places that were completely destroyed have been rebuilt to where it looks like nothing happened.
We aren’t making projections here, this information is based on research, observation, life experience and Billy Meier’s own statements regarding the coming American civil wars. It’s unfortunate that others can’t see what is happening, but that shows the lack of reasoning and thinking ability that the average Earth human exhibits.
The truth should always be told regardless of it being fearful or not. The key is to tell the truth in a calm neutral manner. Our past is evidence of what the near future will hold. No one can outrun cause and effect — not even America.
Salome.
Melisa, if you think the odds favor Sanfrancisco being spared in a nuclear world war, which will wipe out all life in the northern hemisphere or somehow it escapes major damage to be rebuilt in an almost exact manner, then you are welcome to that belief..
FACT:- Neither WW4 nor a civil war is inevitable.. how many times does that need to be said? The notion that a civil war is already underway is absolutely ridiculous.. Do the elements exist? Yes of course.. Has a war started? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
Wars never start with bombs and guns and we most definitely ARE in the early stages of a civil war. No one is saying anything about a definite world war.
If you can’t see the writing on the wall, I don’t know what to tell you, but I do know for sure that I’m done with this conversation. It’s a waste of our time, Irene. We could be doing so many other productive things like studying the spiritual teaching, meditating or helping someone who is truly interested in learning more about the Creational truth. What are we accomplishing here? NOTHING! Salome
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OK Andrew so the implication is?
It seems that I can’t get out of this cell, mate, so as to think about it. 😉
As an Australian and intending on being born down here in the Southern Hemisphere again, I tend to lean toward a very large depopulation event occurring, be it from natural or un-natural causes or both, so as to have a habitableish planet for Nokodemion’s spirit-form to be born on for the last time, soonish. (3.999) 😉
l seem to have disturbed the inmates .. it reminds me of an old movie ”midnight express” when Billy was confined with the criminally insane and walked counterclockwise against their clockwise circular procession.
Really? a civil war? Where is the rampant civil unrest, political assassination, economic collapse, or cities in meltdown?.. l dont see a single terminal symptom.. l must be a bad robot!!
Use your brains Irene
Take a deep breath, walk outside your house and look around.
What do you see
He’ll of a lot of cars parked on the streets
Yeah
Well where are the human beings.
I thought so.
Not too many around.
What does that tell you.
Yes you are correct nothing, sweet F all right.
Wrong.
People have become very insulated, confined in the illusion of safety in their own homes behind the bricks and mortar.
So are their minds.
Insulated and as thick as roofing insulation confined in their own little world full of fear, doubts, shortcomings and worst of all delusional illusions.
Spurred on by the idiot box they hate the world, full of suspicion and resentment.
They play act around people just to put on a face compelled by the social forces and acute sense that they must somehow play along but in the end they just don’t like it.
Now what has this got to do with anything especially the civil war
Well good question
Everything
Why
Well because there exist a humongous tear in the social fabric where nothing is sacred anymore.
It’s either fight or flight these days
People had enough
They are upset and angry
They want to get rid of the source of their pent up frustration and rage.
It doesn’t take much to be fired up these days and people’s toxic emotions do go awry.
Couple this with non existent social cohesion and genuine human-ness why wouldn’t people want to murder and kill other people to get their frustration out and exact revenge.
Why wouldn’t anyone if push comes to shove.
It doesn’t take much these days.
This is the current state of the world and it’s people.
Highly strung up and in desperate need of release.
Look around will take.
Matt might be alluding to the likes of pompeo screeching in Egypt that the usa is a FORCE for GOOD in the Middle East and schumer and polesi have VOTED OR LOBBIED for the usa’s security in the past and $38B for israels security.
Politics is the stupid art of advantage for oneself, not you and yours!
Somone is laughing all the way to the bank and everything is being recorded so that someone in a future personality can apply a Creational Natural Law in a Creational Natural manner!
You know it Andrew!
Andrew you might be onto something there but dare I say it applies to Santa Clause and Jesus friggin Christ as well.
Oh Mohammed just berated me for leaving him out.
Oh well the good the bad and the ugly just got uglier.